Bradford City boss Parkinson rounds on his critics (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Squad rotation not an option it’s a necessity, says Bradford City boss Parkinson
6:50am Thursday 14th March 2013 in Sport
By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
Phil Parkinson has hit back at those who claim he tinkers too much
Phil Parkinson says he is forced to chop and change the City side to prevent the players running themselves into the ground.
And he reckons that anyone who questions why he has to keep shuffling the pack “doesn’t understand football”.
The Bantams boss has come in for some flak for constantly changing the starting line-up.
He switched six names again at Plymouth in Tuesday’s 0-0 draw – their fourth stalemate in five games since Wembley.
With City struggling to make any headway on the play-off race, the lack of a consistent team has been flagged up as a contributory factor.
But Parkinson admits the sheer volume of games in this “extraordinary” campaign has given him no other choice.
He said: “People always jump on the negatives. If you change the team it’s wrong, if you don’t it’s wrong. But it’s not an option, it’s a necessity. I’m not thinking ‘should I change’ but that I have to.
“Anyone who doesn’t understand that doesn’t understand football.
“These players have played an extraordinary amount of games this season. I’ve got to back my judgement call. That’s what you have to do as a manager.
"The staff and myself always look at the situation and who we think is struggling to go into a game and where we need a bit of freshness. These players are human beings and you’ve got to understand that.”
City’s three leading scorers – Nahki Wells, James Hanson and Alan Connell – were all on the bench at Home Park. Instead, Parkinson spearheaded the side with Garry Thompson, who hit the bar, and Andy Gray.
He also left out midfield general Gary Jones – the first league game City’s skipper has missed since his back injury in October.
Parkinson added: “If we’re going to get to where we want to be – and I still think we’ve got a good chance of that – then we’re going to have to utilise the squad.
“We’ve had an extraordinary season and we need to use the full 20-man squad. The ones not in the team, like Michael Nelson and Gary Jones the other night, must do their bit on the touchline and in the dressing room to get the lads going who are playing.
“We’re all in it together. We’re all working for each other as a group.
“We’ve been five games unbeaten since the cup final, three of them on our travels against York, Port Vale and Plymouth. I know we’ve drawn four of them but it’s still a good return.
“Every game is big at this stage. Exeter away on Saturday is another one we look forward to and it’s important that everyone sticks together.”
Comments(88)
Hoggy64
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7:20am Thu 14 Mar 13
Agree with comments about Connell starting, he's fresh and knows where the net is. Give him a run, seems a no brained to me.
bilty40
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7:45am Thu 14 Mar 13
So,why can,t we play two games a week,and "ease off" on the training,and "discuss"where we are not getting enough goals,until the season ends?
And on the subject of a "spark" being needed,could we start with Connell,with a wiew to him letting him get us off to a good start,and maybe a goal or two in front,then go to the more cautios approach that P.P> obviously prefers.A lot of teams won Cups and Championships doing this,and I always understood this was the correct way to play the defensive,cautious way( i.e.when a team has something to hang on to) AlthoughI,m not in favour of a cautious approach of any kind,it might be what,s required at this stage.--"Do what you need to do to win a football match"
Bantams4ever
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7:47am Thu 14 Mar 13
Did anyone question his selections for Arsenal, Wigan, Watford or Villa, no, I wonder why not, oh, could it have been because we won !!
There's so much negagativity with these posts.
In Parky we trust.CITD
bantam59
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8:01am Thu 14 Mar 13
Bantams4ever wrote:lets talk about Plymouth!!!!!!!
why are you questioning Parky's team now, just because the results are not running the way you want them.
Did anyone question his selections for Arsenal, Wigan, Watford or Villa, no, I wonder why not, oh, could it have been because we won !!
There's so much negagativity with these posts.
In Parky we trust.CITD
why didn't he start with Connell????
he isn't tired he is fresh
so all the comments parky made are a load of rubbish
we were total rubbish at Plymouth
nothing to do with tired players
we are not good enough to reach play offs END OF STORY
MortonBantam
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8:07am Thu 14 Mar 13
tyker2
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8:08am Thu 14 Mar 13
If players need resting for playing too many games out does he explain the total lack of use of Connell. THIS GUY HAS NOT HAD A FAIR CRACK OF THE WHIP.
It seeks that Parky is saying our resent record in staying unbeaten in 5 is something which should be applauded. However look at the opposed teams and their relative league position and resources and a and link those to the views expressed that we can now press ahead for the play off push. Does not make much sense to me or most of the supporters I know and have spoken to during nd after games.
macca1969
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8:12am Thu 14 Mar 13
If you ask me PP is panicking as the season collapses around him and he runs out of ideas
Freddy
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8:25am Thu 14 Mar 13
When I have seen Connell play--( Not Often,-I agree) . I was not wholly impressed with his play. He seemed lost, and not sharp. Perhaps 'Parky' has observed this weakness too---especially in training..
*
However, as he is rotating the Squad--to give players a well earned rest.( In view of the number of EXTRA matches already played. ). Perhaps he could start Connell etc. Then sub.him, if he still lacks sharpness etc.
*
IF and it is now a big IF--City achieve play-off's. Then it is ANOTHER possible EXTRA 3 very tough matches to play, over and above the normal 46--plus the League Cup Matches( Already played).
*
Think about the last few Seasons that were terrible, to say the least. The constant threat of RELEGATION, was a major worry, and concern, for everyone involved with Bradford City.
'Parky' has turned it around. He has taken the Club to an Historic League Cup Final. I want him to stay--sign another contract--and develop an AUTOMATIC promotion position, next Season. By improving the whole Squad, during the Closed Season.
*
Again--assuming City do not achieve promotion this Season.However,- If it is achieved--again I want 'Parky' to develop the Squad --TO SUSTAIN PROMOTION.
*
shoatsy
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8:36am Thu 14 Mar 13
neiltherealdeal
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8:57am Thu 14 Mar 13
When Connell has started this season in general he has been a big dissapointment. He has been very effective coming off the bench. His shooting is a little powder puff if you ask me. That said i would have started him against Plymouth as starting Gray just gives all the boo boys more ammunication as clearly he's not look much of a threat.
Most of the matches seem to fit the same pattern at the mo with in general City dominating but not converting chances.
I personally trust Parky with the chopping and changing as he works with the players day in day out.
That said Exeter is a must win if we want to keep this season alive.
macca1969
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9:03am Thu 14 Mar 13
Freddy wrote:Excellent post Freddy and my views are only my observations, I too want parky to stay in the best interests of the club, it doesn't mean I have to agree with all his decisions. I don't agree with his rotation policy as its not working, if the players are jaded why can't we just do light training sessions on the areas we need to improve and ease off the fitness side a bit. Surely more than one way to skin a cat to keep everyone fresh.
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When I have seen Connell play--( Not Often,-I agree) . I was not wholly impressed with his play. He seemed lost, and not sharp. Perhaps 'Parky' has observed this weakness too---especially in training..
*
However, as he is rotating the Squad--to give players a well earned rest.( In view of the number of EXTRA matches already played. ). Perhaps he could start Connell etc. Then sub.him, if he still lacks sharpness etc.
*
IF and it is now a big IF--City achieve play-off's. Then it is ANOTHER possible EXTRA 3 very tough matches to play, over and above the normal 46--plus the League Cup Matches( Already played).
*
Think about the last few Seasons that were terrible, to say the least. The constant threat of RELEGATION, was a major worry, and concern, for everyone involved with Bradford City.
'Parky' has turned it around. He has taken the Club to an Historic League Cup Final. I want him to stay--sign another contract--and develop an AUTOMATIC promotion position, next Season. By improving the whole Squad, during the Closed Season.
*
Again--assuming City do not achieve promotion this Season.However,- If it is achieved--again I want 'Parky' to develop the Squad --TO SUSTAIN PROMOTION.
*
dannbradfc
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9:04am Thu 14 Mar 13
Freddy wrote:I don't think our current style/method of playing will ever take us up in an automatic position assomeone higher up suggests. It just doesn't create enough and will always invite a draw or narrow defeat.
* When I have seen Connell play--( Not Often,-I agree) . I was not wholly impressed with his play. He seemed lost, and not sharp. Perhaps 'Parky' has observed this weakness too---especially in training.. * However, as he is rotating the Squad--to give players a well earned rest.( In view of the number of EXTRA matches already played. ). Perhaps he could start Connell etc. Then sub.him, if he still lacks sharpness etc. * IF and it is now a big IF--City achieve play-off's. Then it is ANOTHER possible EXTRA 3 very tough matches to play, over and above the normal 46--plus the League Cup Matches( Already played). * Think about the last few Seasons that were terrible, to say the least. The constant threat of RELEGATION, was a major worry, and concern, for everyone involved with Bradford City. 'Parky' has turned it around. He has taken the Club to an Historic League Cup Final. I want him to stay--sign another contract--and develop an AUTOMATIC promotion position, next Season. By improving the whole Squad, during the Closed Season. * Again--assuming City do not achieve promotion this Season.However,- If it is achieved--again I want 'Parky' to develop the Squad --TO SUSTAIN PROMOTION. *
We rely on set-piecs too much and perhaps a flick on over the top.
Our only creative outlet is the wingers and these receive the ball nearer the half way line and are expected to beat one often two players each time. They never or very rarely receive the ball on the run BEHIND their full backs forcing them to think.
Our play is all in front of the opposition and it easy to counter. Particularly since Christmas teams have sussed this out and we have struggled, including quite afew home defeats. Anyone who "knows and understands" football can work us out and counter it. Thats why the opposition managers are far to often coming away with the points from Valley Parade. NOT because they raise their game, or referree's (however bad they often are) etc etc
Playing this way is more hopeful than positive and imposing. It won't get us up automatically and play-offs with some hopeful one nil wins is the best this way of playing can hope to offer.
Anyone who understands football can see this........
Michael Clayton
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9:18am Thu 14 Mar 13
This season has been a physical and emotional roller-coaster that has seen a catalogue of serious injuries and an unprecedented cup run.
Trying to keep on a promotion track has proven to be difficult. Whatever happens, the club is in better shape going into 2013-4. Lessons learned, money in the bank etc.
For heavens sake, lay off the fella. Be patient.
tyker2
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9:18am Thu 14 Mar 13
dannbradfc wrote:precisely
Freddy wrote:I don't think our current style/method of playing will ever take us up in an automatic position assomeone higher up suggests. It just doesn't create enough and will always invite a draw or narrow defeat.
* When I have seen Connell play--( Not Often,-I agree) . I was not wholly impressed with his play. He seemed lost, and not sharp. Perhaps 'Parky' has observed this weakness too---especially in training.. * However, as he is rotating the Squad--to give players a well earned rest.( In view of the number of EXTRA matches already played. ). Perhaps he could start Connell etc. Then sub.him, if he still lacks sharpness etc. * IF and it is now a big IF--City achieve play-off's. Then it is ANOTHER possible EXTRA 3 very tough matches to play, over and above the normal 46--plus the League Cup Matches( Already played). * Think about the last few Seasons that were terrible, to say the least. The constant threat of RELEGATION, was a major worry, and concern, for everyone involved with Bradford City. 'Parky' has turned it around. He has taken the Club to an Historic League Cup Final. I want him to stay--sign another contract--and develop an AUTOMATIC promotion position, next Season. By improving the whole Squad, during the Closed Season. * Again--assuming City do not achieve promotion this Season.However,- If it is achieved--again I want 'Parky' to develop the Squad --TO SUSTAIN PROMOTION. *
We rely on set-piecs too much and perhaps a flick on over the top.
Our only creative outlet is the wingers and these receive the ball nearer the half way line and are expected to beat one often two players each time. They never or very rarely receive the ball on the run BEHIND their full backs forcing them to think.
Our play is all in front of the opposition and it easy to counter. Particularly since Christmas teams have sussed this out and we have struggled, including quite afew home defeats. Anyone who "knows and understands" football can work us out and counter it. Thats why the opposition managers are far to often coming away with the points from Valley Parade. NOT because they raise their game, or referree's (however bad they often are) etc etc
Playing this way is more hopeful than positive and imposing. It won't get us up automatically and play-offs with some hopeful one nil wins is the best this way of playing can hope to offer.
Anyone who understands football can see this........
Aveyard01
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9:19am Thu 14 Mar 13
MortonBantam wrote:They dont play in league 2. they are the 2 best for a reason and are very much the exception and not the rule.
The best 2 players in the world never miss a game. It doesn't seem to affect their form.
clown.
Truth77
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9:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
dannbradfc
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9:23am Thu 14 Mar 13
We decide to play with two defensive central midfielders and all our top scorers on the bench. Tiredness or not and personally i can't see how this excuse is used when you consider Connel not playing, this is the first game Jones our oldest players was given a rest despite Doyle having sat out a couple of games, Ritchie Jones was let go and may have been useful now considering our failure to capture the Rochdale player (another defensive midfielder i may add).
Was Jonny Mac tired? To 'drop him' after his part in the goal at home after Duke gave away three points by jumping out of the way of the ball pre-wembley doesn't add up and is particularly harsh.
We also heard the excuse before that Gray wasn't up to match fitness yet and this was used as some kind of defence of his non-performances. So why does he play if not fit if the idea is to rest tiredness? particularly with Connel on the bench?
I'm afraid for the first time this season Parky is starting to use excuses. he admirably hasn't done this before despite some bad luck on the injury front. For me its a sign that he realises his squad is limited in what he can do creatively. The tinkering is perhaps also a way of finding a combination that works or a sign of slight panic for me.
I actually feel that we have a squad that does have options but parky keeps to his system whatever the opposition. he believes in it but when it doesn't work and for me it doesn't then he also needs to accept this and any scrutiny/questioning that comes his way.......
bettyswollocks
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9:25am Thu 14 Mar 13
The players that have been rotated most are the ones that don't need a rest. Players like Hines, Reid, McHugh and more recently Nelson.
It's only the last few games where Doyle and Jones have been rested, these two are the ones that have needed a rest the most and for a long time.
Unfortunately poor performances have also come into play e.g. Wells, Reid.
The rest of them shouldn't be needing a rest, apart from McArdle obviously.
Birky_Neil
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9:29am Thu 14 Mar 13
Got to build for next season now.
I would try pay Gray off, let Davis go to save wages, find a new keeper, midfielder (attacking) sell Wells if anybody wants him but doubt it and personally would try to off load Hanson.
A new pairing up front is needed for next season.
As for Exeter I would play Thompson with wells to start with either Hanson or Connell coming on if any other the front 2 are not producing.
bahamianbantam
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9:42am Thu 14 Mar 13
Take away those wins in August/September and we would be a dozen points worse off - and struggling at bottom. Failing to win in last few matches against lowly opposition backs this up. When was the last time we scored two in the first half?
I would love PP to turn it round - he seems a genuine nice guy but as many posters have commented with the budget he had we should be up there and not 9 points adrift. Its still just about possible but in reality season over - who do you then get rid of?
CheltCityFan
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9:54am Thu 14 Mar 13
However, the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system. I don't believe it works at this level unless you are making an odd change and dropping in like for like so the team knows exactly how to play. Nor do I believe it is beyond players to play twice a week. Look at the successful teams in this league and I think you will find that they have a solid core of regulars that are not rotated. In this league in particular, team spirit and consistency can make a big difference where there are not a lot of quality players. If we were only changing the odd player I could understand, but when we make six changes on a regular basis I don't know how the players know what is going on. When you have a different keeper, a different centre back pairing, different midfield pairing and different forward line, I'm not surprised we lack that cutting edge. And when we do this against teams that are at the bottom of the league, I can understand fans' frustrations, because I share them fully.
Our main frustration is that we can see that we have the players to be at the top of this league but continuing to be happy with odd points against bottom of the league teams is not going to get us out this season, whilst small teams with much lower resources manage to be able to win games week in, week out.
lawsonio123
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9:58am Thu 14 Mar 13
pudseykid
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10:07am Thu 14 Mar 13
bilty40 wrote:For those who remember the "days before MWAYS", since the lower leagues have always been around 24 teams, were, in the 60s/70s, games played "mid week", and if so, how did a team from the north travel 300plus miles to the south? Connell is one of the most underused players in the team, so is he tired? Does he not "fit in", if not, why are "we" (if we are all in this together) paying him and any others who are not getting regular starts..For the committed fan (thats 1 at every home game and most away games), they want to see their team win or challenge for promotion. In "Citys" case, NO win at Exeter and the season is over this year. So, really 2 questions for next season (1) is enough money from the cup run going to be used to strengthen a squad which this manager can work with? (2) if answer to 1 is YES, and this manager brings in more players/better players-can he say with confidence that he will seriously challenge for promotion next season? The price of failure in my job is that i dont get to stay, and i dont get paid anywhere near what he does! I shall cheer on saturday as i want my team promoted, at present, that is looking very unlikely
On the subject of "tiredness",a great many players say they would much rather play two games a week than play and train-so I don,t get it!
So,why can,t we play two games a week,and "ease off" on the training,and "discuss"where we are not getting enough goals,until the season ends?
And on the subject of a "spark" being needed,could we start with Connell,with a wiew to him letting him get us off to a good start,and maybe a goal or two in front,then go to the more cautios approach that P.P> obviously prefers.A lot of teams won Cups and Championships doing this,and I always understood this was the correct way to play the defensive,cautious way( i.e.when a team has something to hang on to) AlthoughI,m not in favour of a cautious approach of any kind,it might be what,s required at this stage.--"Do what you need to do to win a football match"
Peter300
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10:15am Thu 14 Mar 13
Sandy lane bantam wrote:Both Parkinson and Todd are right. It's about time these ignorant critics were questioned by the professionals. Your reference to Todd means that your sole pastime to continually criticise all City managers.
I agree it is important to stick together at the moment as this season is not yet over and the players have played a lot of games. However isn't the statement that anyone questioning him "doesn't understand football" rather contrary to sticking together? Sounds like Colin Todd is back to me! If we are resting players because they are tired then why is Connell constantly sat on the bench? He has only played a handful of games this year. I know it is difficult to put him into the 4-4-2 system but change it. The current system is hardly working and he is one of the few players with a spark at the moment. Got to be worth trying to accommodate him. What have we got to lose in our position?
pudseykid
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10:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
Peter300
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10:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
CheltCityFan wrote:Parkinson made it quite clear there would be a rotation system last August. You and your friends had plently of opportunity to criticise this policy, but you chose not to. Instead you wait eight months to decide it should be questioned. You and your friends make for very poor managers.
I'm not going to knock Mr Parkinson as he has stopped the constantly downward rot, which in itself is an achievement after so many years' decline, he has brought in some better players and has worked the miracle of a Wembley final against all odds. The latter is something Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc could not manage to achieve. This is something that we rightly need to applaud Mr Parkinson for. However, the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system. I don't believe it works at this level unless you are making an odd change and dropping in like for like so the team knows exactly how to play. Nor do I believe it is beyond players to play twice a week. Look at the successful teams in this league and I think you will find that they have a solid core of regulars that are not rotated. In this league in particular, team spirit and consistency can make a big difference where there are not a lot of quality players. If we were only changing the odd player I could understand, but when we make six changes on a regular basis I don't know how the players know what is going on. When you have a different keeper, a different centre back pairing, different midfield pairing and different forward line, I'm not surprised we lack that cutting edge. And when we do this against teams that are at the bottom of the league, I can understand fans' frustrations, because I share them fully. Our main frustration is that we can see that we have the players to be at the top of this league but continuing to be happy with odd points against bottom of the league teams is not going to get us out this season, whilst small teams with much lower resources manage to be able to win games week in, week out.
Peter300
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10:27am Thu 14 Mar 13
tyker2 wrote:Well tykeretykketebikette
mm an outburst not dissimilar to those embarked upon by Taylor: turn against the crowd and you are a goner. If players need resting for playing too many games out does he explain the total lack of use of Connell. THIS GUY HAS NOT HAD A FAIR CRACK OF THE WHIP. It seeks that Parky is saying our resent record in staying unbeaten in 5 is something which should be applauded. However look at the opposed teams and their relative league position and resources and a and link those to the views expressed that we can now press ahead for the play off push. Does not make much sense to me or most of the supporters I know and have spoken to during nd after games.
y you criticise all managers. Parkinson should move to another club and take the money on offer. I say don't waste time at Bradford playing for the likes you who don't want you (who don't want any manager really). Get some money from a Championship club and get sacked there when their fans (like tyketytuerterwereker
tyet) decide they don't want you. The manager is absolutely right to have a go at some of the fans. Some of the them deserve it.
Peter300
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10:35am Thu 14 Mar 13
dannbradfc wrote:Who are you kidding? Five years in this division and you have learned precisely nothing. Leave the tunnel vision behind. It beggars belief you fail to take into account how any of the other 23 teams in the division play. And you've done it for five years and counting.
Freddy wrote: * When I have seen Connell play--( Not Often,-I agree) . I was not wholly impressed with his play. He seemed lost, and not sharp. Perhaps 'Parky' has observed this weakness too---especially in training.. * However, as he is rotating the Squad--to give players a well earned rest.( In view of the number of EXTRA matches already played. ). Perhaps he could start Connell etc. Then sub.him, if he still lacks sharpness etc. * IF and it is now a big IF--City achieve play-off's. Then it is ANOTHER possible EXTRA 3 very tough matches to play, over and above the normal 46--plus the League Cup Matches( Already played). * Think about the last few Seasons that were terrible, to say the least. The constant threat of RELEGATION, was a major worry, and concern, for everyone involved with Bradford City. 'Parky' has turned it around. He has taken the Club to an Historic League Cup Final. I want him to stay--sign another contract--and develop an AUTOMATIC promotion position, next Season. By improving the whole Squad, during the Closed Season. * Again--assuming City do not achieve promotion this Season.However,- If it is achieved--again I want 'Parky' to develop the Squad --TO SUSTAIN PROMOTION. *I don't think our current style/method of playing will ever take us up in an automatic position assomeone higher up suggests. It just doesn't create enough and will always invite a draw or narrow defeat. We rely on set-piecs too much and perhaps a flick on over the top. Our only creative outlet is the wingers and these receive the ball nearer the half way line and are expected to beat one often two players each time. They never or very rarely receive the ball on the run BEHIND their full backs forcing them to think. Our play is all in front of the opposition and it easy to counter. Particularly since Christmas teams have sussed this out and we have struggled, including quite afew home defeats. Anyone who "knows and understands" football can work us out and counter it. Thats why the opposition managers are far to often coming away with the points from Valley Parade. NOT because they raise their game, or referree's (however bad they often are) etc etc Playing this way is more hopeful than positive and imposing. It won't get us up automatically and play-offs with some hopeful one nil wins is the best this way of playing can hope to offer. Anyone who understands football can see this........
tyker2
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11:01am Thu 14 Mar 13
Peter300 wrote:failed footballer,failed publican and a hater of Wayne Jacobs with a morning internet service. Nothing more to add really
tyker2 wrote:Well tykeretykketebikette
mm an outburst not dissimilar to those embarked upon by Taylor: turn against the crowd and you are a goner. If players need resting for playing too many games out does he explain the total lack of use of Connell. THIS GUY HAS NOT HAD A FAIR CRACK OF THE WHIP. It seeks that Parky is saying our resent record in staying unbeaten in 5 is something which should be applauded. However look at the opposed teams and their relative league position and resources and a and link those to the views expressed that we can now press ahead for the play off push. Does not make much sense to me or most of the supporters I know and have spoken to during nd after games.
y you criticise all managers. Parkinson should move to another club and take the money on offer. I say don't waste time at Bradford playing for the likes you who don't want you (who don't want any manager really). Get some money from a Championship club and get sacked there when their fans (like tyketytuerterwereker
tyet) decide they don't want you. The manager is absolutely right to have a go at some of the fans. Some of the them deserve it.
Michael Clayton
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11:02am Thu 14 Mar 13
lawsonio123 wrote:Supporters are entitled to express what they feel. However, the moment that Parkinson opens his trap, he is seized upon.
I have always respected Mr Parkinsons position as Manager.and always will do so..But to say supporters know nothing about football shows a lack of respect. Some of these people have played the game and supported City for up to 50 years and more.Mr Parkinson you are wrong to slate these people who support City through Thick and Thin they are entitled to express what they feel
Things are said in the heat of the moment and anyone who has played competitive sport should realise this.
There are many occasions on which he has praised the fans. Are you advocating that he should not express any negatives?
Would you rather he was truthful than simply trying to appease all the time?
CheltCityFan
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11:28am Thu 14 Mar 13
Peter300 wrote:Oh, Peter. You're so determined to disagree with everyone that you don't even bother to read properly what they put. The one clue in my post is 'the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system.'
CheltCityFan wrote:Parkinson made it quite clear there would be a rotation system last August. You and your friends had plently of opportunity to criticise this policy, but you chose not to. Instead you wait eight months to decide it should be questioned. You and your friends make for very poor managers.
I'm not going to knock Mr Parkinson as he has stopped the constantly downward rot, which in itself is an achievement after so many years' decline, he has brought in some better players and has worked the miracle of a Wembley final against all odds. The latter is something Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc could not manage to achieve. This is something that we rightly need to applaud Mr Parkinson for. However, the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system. I don't believe it works at this level unless you are making an odd change and dropping in like for like so the team knows exactly how to play. Nor do I believe it is beyond players to play twice a week. Look at the successful teams in this league and I think you will find that they have a solid core of regulars that are not rotated. In this league in particular, team spirit and consistency can make a big difference where there are not a lot of quality players. If we were only changing the odd player I could understand, but when we make six changes on a regular basis I don't know how the players know what is going on. When you have a different keeper, a different centre back pairing, different midfield pairing and different forward line, I'm not surprised we lack that cutting edge. And when we do this against teams that are at the bottom of the league, I can understand fans' frustrations, because I share them fully. Our main frustration is that we can see that we have the players to be at the top of this league but continuing to be happy with odd points against bottom of the league teams is not going to get us out this season, whilst small teams with much lower resources manage to be able to win games week in, week out.
You may want to look up what consistently means before criticising me for waiting until now to disagree about rotation. You may also want to look back over the months/years for my previous comments about rotation, which have been consistently expressed on a number of occasions. I'm not bothered if Mr Parkinson mentioned rotation in August, July, June, May or April, I still personally disagree with rotation and it's an honestly held view.
I'm not sure who my friends are that you refer to but if having this view makes me a poor manager then I guess I'll just have to live with that. The fact that I am not manager nor never will be may give some consolation to you.
Time to find someone else to disagree with, Peter.
locky1667
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11:30am Thu 14 Mar 13
Nobody but the management and players know what goes on behind the scenes which culminate in these changes so let it go and get behind them instead. Whatever happens at the end of the season its the best year we have had in anybodys' living memory and i have been going for nealy 40 years
Citygentleman1968
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12:08pm Thu 14 Mar 13
1. First 4th tier club ever to play a wembley final
2. Best financial position in last 15 years
3. STILL in with a shout of 7th place and play-offs
4.Averaging 10,000 per home game
5.One of the best lower league managers going
6.Joint chairman who have bent over backwards for Bradford City
Tell me one lower league team that would not chew our hands off for this?
Rotation happens! Get over it.
I am proud what we have achieved this year, promotion or not.
Cityman23
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12:10pm Thu 14 Mar 13
in yet another season, we've failed to get out of Lge 2 (bottom tier).
Next year will mark our seventh consecutive season in the 4th tier of English football, and based on the size of the club, its regular support, its finances and the players/managers that have been at the club that is very difficult TO UNDERSTAND NEVER MIND ACCEPT!
That's NOT to blame 'PP' or even (in hindsight) Stuart McCall who took City close to promotion on one occasion and has gone on at Motherwell to prove he IS a good manager.
Weve had a memorable season and we have 'PP'/the players to thank for that.
Nevertheless we HAVE fallen short becuse the League table doesn't lie. Yes, we've had injuries but it's been more than that and ultimately the squad was not good enough for promotion this year.
'PP' deserves the chance for a third season in charge (i tend to think all mgrs. should get three years) and he WILL get that chance UNLESS the money is not god enough in his opinion or he wants to go elsewhere
Next season, we MUST focus on getting out of this leage to exclusion of all else, because an eighth year in Lge Twowould be too hard to bear, and if we were still 'bumping along at the base level by then the support base would have been reduced, no doubt.
We HAVE the 'skeleton' of a good team but are still 3/4 (squad) (a couple) team players short I think of being 'there.'
'PP' must know this in his heart of hearts this IS the case. Like all (particularly) those who have a lot of pride in their 'success' he is sensitive to criticism and o course he knows the 'situation' better than those on the 'outside' ie supporters.
Generally though,most fans are STILL with the manager and willing him/the team to succeed.
Hopefully, with some 'PP' fine-tuning in 2013/14 that will become (in terms of promotion) a reality!
ALEXIMO.56.
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12:41pm Thu 14 Mar 13
i miss stallard & murray
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12:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I appreciate what Parkinson has done and i will admit i did not like him last year, but have grown to respect him this year, (and i really hope he succeeds) that was because i was excited by the football we played early doors and some good signings.
What has and is worrying me the most is in 2013, the signing of Andy Gray and we have had 1 tactic when hanson has played and this is to get the ball as quick as we can to hansons head...
We have always had target men at city and this has been successful, remember Mills, Steiner, Stix, Tolson, Taylor to name but a few.... They have alll benefited the team team when plan B was to launch the ball to the target man, to give the defence a breather.....
Our current tactics with hanson on the pitch is (I am a hanson fan, i feel sorry for the lad, when the ball is to his feet or chest he is effective, if he went to a footballing team he would be very good at this level) plan A launch the ball to hanson, plan B launch the ball to hanson, plan C launch the ball to hanson, lets play football create space and open up the defence for the strikers to benefit in the final third.
Especially at home it is so predictable and easy for teams to park the bus, that is why we can not break teams down...
I was shocked when Parkin stated that we dominated Dagenham, we did not create any clear cut chances, we have gone backwards..
I feel PP has appreciated this is not working and rather than changing the style of play, he is rotating his team to find a style that does, why not go back to the start of the season and play football.....
Nevelhound
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12:44pm Thu 14 Mar 13
timetobeproud
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12:52pm Thu 14 Mar 13
settler07
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12:58pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I could be tempted to have a moan too because i share the passion we all feel for city. But on reflection, as i only see the matches and not the other 95% of the teams workings, i'm not going to because Parky's got so much right this season it beggars belief. What a turn round. So i am following our team's leader and staying positive.
I think the cup run may well be the reason we dont make it promotion-wise this year but i'll take the season we've had thank you and await next season with incredible anticipation........
but only if we secure Parky's services to guide us. This has only been his first season so imagine what another summer of the rebuilding process may bring.
In conclusion, i do get it Parky. Frustrating currently and it's a game of opinions. Many of those opinions are however commonly kneejerk reactions rather than considered and that's what you're getting on here ( in my opinion!!)
Victor Clayton
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1:00pm Thu 14 Mar 13
CheltCityFan wrote:TBH, I dont agree with what you are saying about the rotation system. In fact i would even go as far as to say that with regard to central midfield, he hasn't used it enough. We havn't had a string of decent league games for month now. and for most part Jones & Doyle were constant. I think we would have been better off now if Ravenhill and R Jones had seen more action. He even stuck with the Wells/ Hanson partnership for too long. in one game he brought a poorly Wells on, and then had to sub him off again. This is all hindsight of course, but I can’t understand why more supporters (not you) weren’t saying what they are saying now, months aga!
I'm not going to knock Mr Parkinson as he has stopped the constantly downward rot, which in itself is an achievement after so many years' decline, he has brought in some better players and has worked the miracle of a Wembley final against all odds. The latter is something Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc could not manage to achieve. This is something that we rightly need to applaud Mr Parkinson for. However, the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system. I don't believe it works at this level unless you are making an odd change and dropping in like for like so the team knows exactly how to play. Nor do I believe it is beyond players to play twice a week. Look at the successful teams in this league and I think you will find that they have a solid core of regulars that are not rotated. In this league in particular, team spirit and consistency can make a big difference where there are not a lot of quality players. If we were only changing the odd player I could understand, but when we make six changes on a regular basis I don't know how the players know what is going on. When you have a different keeper, a different centre back pairing, different midfield pairing and different forward line, I'm not surprised we lack that cutting edge. And when we do this against teams that are at the bottom of the league, I can understand fans' frustrations, because I share them fully. Our main frustration is that we can see that we have the players to be at the top of this league but continuing to be happy with odd points against bottom of the league teams is not going to get us out this season, whilst small teams with much lower resources manage to be able to win games week in, week out.
lawsonio123
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1:11pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Michael Clayton wrote:I have always backer Mr Parkinson BUT it is not right to say supporters know nothing about football .some of them know a great deal about it I know sometimes they say things but only in dissapointment
lawsonio123 wrote:Supporters are entitled to express what they feel. However, the moment that Parkinson opens his trap, he is seized upon.
I have always respected Mr Parkinsons position as Manager.and always will do so..But to say supporters know nothing about football shows a lack of respect. Some of these people have played the game and supported City for up to 50 years and more.Mr Parkinson you are wrong to slate these people who support City through Thick and Thin they are entitled to express what they feel
Things are said in the heat of the moment and anyone who has played competitive sport should realise this.
There are many occasions on which he has praised the fans. Are you advocating that he should not express any negatives?
Would you rather he was truthful than simply trying to appease all the time?
He has every right to defend himself and i have always backed him and still do so.However to say supporters know nothing about football was wrong. Remember without these supporters our club would not be what it is.OH YES they know about football.Look back at my posts you will see nobody has defended Parky more than i have Take Care CITY always
MrsAngryofRidd
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1:21pm Thu 14 Mar 13
So Mr Parkinson again please please play Connell from the start with Hanson.
Hope someone at the Club reads these posts.
Victor Clayton
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1:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13
lawsonio123 wrote:I wonder how much is the T&A stirring it. if you notice, after there is (for example) a barny about Hanson, they always follow up with more Hanson stories, until it runs out of steam. more hits = more advertising etc.
Michael Clayton wrote:I have always backer Mr Parkinson BUT it is not right to say supporters know nothing about football .some of them know a great deal about it I know sometimes they say things but only in dissapointment He has every right to defend himself and i have always backed him and still do so.However to say supporters know nothing about football was wrong. Remember without these supporters our club would not be what it is.OH YES they know about football.Look back at my posts you will see nobody has defended Parky more than i have Take Care CITY alwayslawsonio123 wrote: I have always respected Mr Parkinsons position as Manager.and always will do so..But to say supporters know nothing about football shows a lack of respect. Some of these people have played the game and supported City for up to 50 years and more.Mr Parkinson you are wrong to slate these people who support City through Thick and Thin they are entitled to express what they feelSupporters are entitled to express what they feel. However, the moment that Parkinson opens his trap, he is seized upon. Things are said in the heat of the moment and anyone who has played competitive sport should realise this. There are many occasions on which he has praised the fans. Are you advocating that he should not express any negatives? Would you rather he was truthful than simply trying to appease all the time?
Victor Clayton
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1:30pm Thu 14 Mar 13
MrsAngryofRidd wrote:the season started with Hanson and Connell up front. 2 slow strikers did not work. maybe Thomson/ Connell is worth a go. or Hanson/ Thomson with Connell in midfield.
I think it is obvious from the comments above that we would all like to see Connell start a game and I think we will all agree that rotation is necessary. So Mr Parkinson again please please play Connell from the start with Hanson. Hope someone at the Club reads these posts.
Michael Clayton
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1:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13
ALEXIMO.56. wrote:Strange how those who claim to have followed the club for X+ years seem to want instant gratification.
Does everyone remember when Parky first arrived. He stated that this season is for rebuilding and next season is a challenge for promotion. He then stated we are aiming for a top ten position but a playoff place would be fantastic. We are there or there abouts and still could make the play-offs. There are still a few who come on here and expect instant promotion and some still say that we belong back in the premiership. We don't belong in the prem. We are a 4th division club who with credit climbed the leagues and got ourselves in the prem for 2 seasons. We are now AGAIN a 4th division club who are attempting to start climbing the leagues once again. Parky is the ONLY manager to take a 4th division club to a MAJOR cup final at Wembley. We have had a fantastic season despite all the injuries and all the games played so far. It can get better by possibly and hopefully reaching the play-offs. Parky is the best manager this club has had for many years and I for one hope he signs a new deal. It's time now for us all to stick together and get behind Parky and give him the SUPPORT and RESPECT he deserves.
As a professional, he is entirely justified to exclaim that people do not understand football when his own repuation is brought into question.
CheltCityFan
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1:59pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Victor Clayton wrote:Victor, no problem with you not agreeing with my views on rotation as we are all entitled to our opinions - that's what makes football such a great game. I wouldn't disagree with you about the central midfield as it is pivotal to our play and has not always been dynamic enough. However, I don't call it rotation where you recognise that one or two players are not performing to their standards for whatever reason and replace them because of their lack of form. This has always got to be an option because no one's place should be guaranteed whoever they are. What I call rotation is where we regularly have five or six changes from game to game when there is often no justifiable reason other than to 'freshen up the squad'. This is just my view, honestly held.
CheltCityFan wrote:TBH, I dont agree with what you are saying about the rotation system. In fact i would even go as far as to say that with regard to central midfield, he hasn't used it enough. We havn't had a string of decent league games for month now. and for most part Jones & Doyle were constant. I think we would have been better off now if Ravenhill and R Jones had seen more action. He even stuck with the Wells/ Hanson partnership for too long. in one game he brought a poorly Wells on, and then had to sub him off again. This is all hindsight of course, but I can’t understand why more supporters (not you) weren’t saying what they are saying now, months aga!
I'm not going to knock Mr Parkinson as he has stopped the constantly downward rot, which in itself is an achievement after so many years' decline, he has brought in some better players and has worked the miracle of a Wembley final against all odds. The latter is something Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc could not manage to achieve. This is something that we rightly need to applaud Mr Parkinson for. However, the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system. I don't believe it works at this level unless you are making an odd change and dropping in like for like so the team knows exactly how to play. Nor do I believe it is beyond players to play twice a week. Look at the successful teams in this league and I think you will find that they have a solid core of regulars that are not rotated. In this league in particular, team spirit and consistency can make a big difference where there are not a lot of quality players. If we were only changing the odd player I could understand, but when we make six changes on a regular basis I don't know how the players know what is going on. When you have a different keeper, a different centre back pairing, different midfield pairing and different forward line, I'm not surprised we lack that cutting edge. And when we do this against teams that are at the bottom of the league, I can understand fans' frustrations, because I share them fully. Our main frustration is that we can see that we have the players to be at the top of this league but continuing to be happy with odd points against bottom of the league teams is not going to get us out this season, whilst small teams with much lower resources manage to be able to win games week in, week out.
I would also like to reiterate that Mr Parkinson has done a fantastic job this season getting us to Wembley and setting the foundations for better times. He deserves a medal for this and I will not criticise him - he's a far better manager than I could ever be and is a very honest, hardworking and genuine person who I respect greatly. I may not always agree with his team selection or tactics but he is the manager of the team I have loved for over 50 years, therefore has my support for what it is worth.
Scuba Dee
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2:02pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Torquay Bantam
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2:05pm Thu 14 Mar 13
numerouno2
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2:30pm Thu 14 Mar 13
essess
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3:10pm Thu 14 Mar 13
MarkS1
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3:22pm Thu 14 Mar 13
gentlemanbob
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4:27pm Thu 14 Mar 13
ALEXIMO.56. says...
12:41pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Does everyone remember when Parky first arrived. He stated that this season is for rebuilding and next season is a challenge for promotion. He then stated we are aiming for a top ten position but a playoff place would be fantastic. We are there or there abouts and still could make the play-offs. There are still a few who come on here and expect instant promotion and some still say that we belong back in the premiership. We don't belong in the prem. We are a 4th division club who with credit climbed the leagues and got ourselves in the prem for 2 seasons. We are now AGAIN a 4th division club who are attempting to start climbing the leagues once again. Parky is the ONLY manager to take a 4th division club to a MAJOR cup final at Wembley. We have had a fantastic season despite all the injuries and all the games played so far. It can get better by possibly and hopefully reaching the play-offs. Parky is the best manager this club has had for many years and I for one hope he signs a new deal. It's time now for us all to stick together and get behind Parky and give him the SUPPORT and RESPECT he deserves.
Well said ALEXIMO.56
Some of you should stop and Think before you Write ....
Next year with a few new players will be are year....
Yours
Gentlemanbob
bcfc1903
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5:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
bcfc1903
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5:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
tinytoonster
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6:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
essess wrote:its TIM THORNTON! and you were THERE! at least get the names and spelling right!
I agree 100% with parky just what you minority so called city fans want I dot know,he can't do right for wrong Jason Thornton (pulse) was well out of order by saying it was a below par performance it was not and I was their the ball just wouldn't go in Branson should have been red carded. Why don't you lot get behind the team instead of this negativity :)
that just sums up the intelligence levels on here.
changing 6 players smacks of panicking, just a thought but hey, i know nothing parky said.
tinytoonster
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6:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13
no good at home i'm afraid because thats what everyone does who comes to valley parade.
get keegan to manage at home! ha ha!
tinytoonster
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6:38pm Thu 14 Mar 13
joeybcfc
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7:04pm Thu 14 Mar 13
KnightMcCall
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8:02pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
joeybcfc
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8:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13
silverbantam
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9:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13
tinytoonster wrote:It definitely was Jason Thornton. Tim wouldn't have asked that.
essess wrote:its TIM THORNTON! and you were THERE! at least get the names and spelling right!
I agree 100% with parky just what you minority so called city fans want I dot know,he can't do right for wrong Jason Thornton (pulse) was well out of order by saying it was a below par performance it was not and I was their the ball just wouldn't go in Branson should have been red carded. Why don't you lot get behind the team instead of this negativity :)
that just sums up the intelligence levels on here.
changing 6 players smacks of panicking, just a thought but hey, i know nothing parky said.
Why is changing 6 players panicking ? Surely the opposite is true ?
Victor Clayton
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10:03pm Thu 14 Mar 13
CheltCityFan wrote:The way i see it. In the early games of the season the first 11 was more settled. But as the games have totted up he has had to rotate the squad more. Tiredness has been one factor but probably Hanson's lean patch another. It is all about opinions and mine is, if you have a squad why not use it?
Victor Clayton wrote:Victor, no problem with you not agreeing with my views on rotation as we are all entitled to our opinions - that's what makes football such a great game. I wouldn't disagree with you about the central midfield as it is pivotal to our play and has not always been dynamic enough. However, I don't call it rotation where you recognise that one or two players are not performing to their standards for whatever reason and replace them because of their lack of form. This has always got to be an option because no one's place should be guaranteed whoever they are. What I call rotation is where we regularly have five or six changes from game to game when there is often no justifiable reason other than to 'freshen up the squad'. This is just my view, honestly held.
CheltCityFan wrote:TBH, I dont agree with what you are saying about the rotation system. In fact i would even go as far as to say that with regard to central midfield, he hasn't used it enough. We havn't had a string of decent league games for month now. and for most part Jones & Doyle were constant. I think we would have been better off now if Ravenhill and R Jones had seen more action. He even stuck with the Wells/ Hanson partnership for too long. in one game he brought a poorly Wells on, and then had to sub him off again. This is all hindsight of course, but I can’t understand why more supporters (not you) weren’t saying what they are saying now, months aga!
I'm not going to knock Mr Parkinson as he has stopped the constantly downward rot, which in itself is an achievement after so many years' decline, he has brought in some better players and has worked the miracle of a Wembley final against all odds. The latter is something Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc could not manage to achieve. This is something that we rightly need to applaud Mr Parkinson for. However, the one point that I have consistently disagreed with on here is the rotation system. I don't believe it works at this level unless you are making an odd change and dropping in like for like so the team knows exactly how to play. Nor do I believe it is beyond players to play twice a week. Look at the successful teams in this league and I think you will find that they have a solid core of regulars that are not rotated. In this league in particular, team spirit and consistency can make a big difference where there are not a lot of quality players. If we were only changing the odd player I could understand, but when we make six changes on a regular basis I don't know how the players know what is going on. When you have a different keeper, a different centre back pairing, different midfield pairing and different forward line, I'm not surprised we lack that cutting edge. And when we do this against teams that are at the bottom of the league, I can understand fans' frustrations, because I share them fully. Our main frustration is that we can see that we have the players to be at the top of this league but continuing to be happy with odd points against bottom of the league teams is not going to get us out this season, whilst small teams with much lower resources manage to be able to win games week in, week out.
I would also like to reiterate that Mr Parkinson has done a fantastic job this season getting us to Wembley and setting the foundations for better times. He deserves a medal for this and I will not criticise him - he's a far better manager than I could ever be and is a very honest, hardworking and genuine person who I respect greatly. I may not always agree with his team selection or tactics but he is the manager of the team I have loved for over 50 years, therefore has my support for what it is worth.
ynotdunne
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11:29pm Thu 14 Mar 13
fatbloke
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11:42pm Thu 14 Mar 13
With regards to Parky, what an achievement getting to Wembley.
What I fail to get to grips with is, how tactics appear to be same if we play Arsenal at home or Aldershot?
If we were more positive in last 5 games, we may have lost 1 or 2 but I'd take 3 wins and 2 loses which in my head makes 9 points rather then go unbeaten and take 7!!!! We do have the players capable of reaching the play off's so if we do fail who has to take the blame???
macca1969
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12:06am Fri 15 Mar 13
KnightMcCall wrote:KnightMcCall says...
Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all.
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
7:08pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Nelson in the starting line-up and on the bench! Come on Simon.
No Wells, Hanson or Connell? Bizarre! I hope that this works PP 'cos we need points right now. Really thought Connell would get a start tonight alongside Thompson or Hanson. There is rotation and their is madness!! Hines and Reid need stormers for this to work.
Come on City!!”
does this include you too km lmao
Bradford1903
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12:46am Fri 15 Mar 13
I appreciate that we've had an unprecedented amount of games this season, it's a ridiculous schedule to have to trips to Devon in 4 days, and the squad is good enough to get results, irrespective of what team is put out.
The main issue to me is the persistence in a conservative approach to games, when we desperately need wins to overall the points gap to the play offs.
Parky's priority is to be well organised and difficult to beat, and over the course of a season, I don't really have much of an issue with that, as this approach has got a lot of teams promoted from this division. In our position though, to close the points gap he simply has got to play a more expansive game, and I can't believe he doesn't see this.
You never know in football, if we can beat Exeter we've 3 home games on the bounce, but we are not going to achieve anything through conservative, safety first football.
Victor Clayton
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7:38am Fri 15 Mar 13
Bradford1903 wrote:I agree, and with a bit more killer instinct up front it would have worked.
I don't think the main issue is squad rotation.
I appreciate that we've had an unprecedented amount of games this season, it's a ridiculous schedule to have to trips to Devon in 4 days, and the squad is good enough to get results, irrespective of what team is put out.
The main issue to me is the persistence in a conservative approach to games, when we desperately need wins to overall the points gap to the play offs.
Parky's priority is to be well organised and difficult to beat, and over the course of a season, I don't really have much of an issue with that, as this approach has got a lot of teams promoted from this division. In our position though, to close the points gap he simply has got to play a more expansive game, and I can't believe he doesn't see this.
You never know in football, if we can beat Exeter we've 3 home games on the bounce, but we are not going to achieve anything through conservative, safety first football.
numerouno2
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8:17am Fri 15 Mar 13
bcfc1903 wrote:All managers lose their way from time to time so how about accepting that could happen to Parkinson. Everybody on here understands what he has achieved by getting us to the cup final but take that away and he would have had an extended budget and still not brought us any further in league standards. It doesn't matter where we end up in the league this season 8th or 18th, only play-offs or better can be seen as improvement. He knew we were lacking in some positions when the transfer market was open but he opted not to strengthen those. Now he is suffering with lack of goals and results. So going unbeaten to the end of the season with 7 draws 3 wins and missing out on promotion is satisfying to you. Why did he push the boat out on bringing Davies back to the club for one year only if he had no intention of getting out of the league this year?. Players who come in for one year only are not here to build up for a push the following season.
Luckily we pay a decent manger to do the job...some of the stuff in the above thread is hilarious. BCFC have had a great season, if we go unbeaten til the end of the season, BCFC will be there or there abouts, what ever happens this season...it's been a fairytale, for BCFC to play in a domestic major cup final is incredible!!!!!. CTID
Michael Clayton
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10:37am Fri 15 Mar 13
numerouno2 wrote:As you are so keen to have a go at PP, remind yourself that he generated the income (through the cup run) in order to cover the extended budget. He achieved a Wembley date (through his managerial ability) and, in so doing, has boosted net profit.
bcfc1903 wrote: Luckily we pay a decent manger to do the job...some of the stuff in the above thread is hilarious. BCFC have had a great season, if we go unbeaten til the end of the season, BCFC will be there or there abouts, what ever happens this season...it's been a fairytale, for BCFC to play in a domestic major cup final is incredible!!!!!. CTIDAll managers lose their way from time to time so how about accepting that could happen to Parkinson. Everybody on here understands what he has achieved by getting us to the cup final but take that away and he would have had an extended budget and still not brought us any further in league standards. It doesn't matter where we end up in the league this season 8th or 18th, only play-offs or better can be seen as improvement. He knew we were lacking in some positions when the transfer market was open but he opted not to strengthen those. Now he is suffering with lack of goals and results. So going unbeaten to the end of the season with 7 draws 3 wins and missing out on promotion is satisfying to you. Why did he push the boat out on bringing Davies back to the club for one year only if he had no intention of getting out of the league this year?. Players who come in for one year only are not here to build up for a push the following season.
To suggest that PP has not brought the club any further (in league standards) is incorrect. Look at the league table on this day in 2012 and see how desperate the situation was.
One contributor referred to the narcissistic tendencies of the fans. I would go further by adding that it has been a demonstration of sheer ignorance.
Can critics not understand that this has been an extraordinary (in the sense of very unusual) season? Or are you simply going to lambast a man who has not completed a full season in the hot-seat?
By some, his achievements are treated as 'luck' whilst league setbacks are down to bad management. His perfectly rational explanantions are treated as 'excuses'.
One thing is for sure, if he goes it is back to square one. If he stays, you critics will end up eating humble pie.
Scargutt2
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11:23am Fri 15 Mar 13
So many managers are criticised for their work at City, then go on to be good managers elsewhere. Why is that?
If Phil isn't the right man for the job, who is? And why? What would they do differently? And to anyone who thinks they know the answer to these questions, if the solution is so simple, why not let the club know and maybe they can pass the information on to Phil and his team.
Victor Clayton
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12:24pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Michael Clayton wrote:good post Michael.
numerouno2 wrote:As you are so keen to have a go at PP, remind yourself that he generated the income (through the cup run) in order to cover the extended budget. He achieved a Wembley date (through his managerial ability) and, in so doing, has boosted net profit. To suggest that PP has not brought the club any further (in league standards) is incorrect. Look at the league table on this day in 2012 and see how desperate the situation was. One contributor referred to the narcissistic tendencies of the fans. I would go further by adding that it has been a demonstration of sheer ignorance. Can critics not understand that this has been an extraordinary (in the sense of very unusual) season? Or are you simply going to lambast a man who has not completed a full season in the hot-seat? By some, his achievements are treated as 'luck' whilst league setbacks are down to bad management. His perfectly rational explanantions are treated as 'excuses'. One thing is for sure, if he goes it is back to square one. If he stays, you critics will end up eating humble pie.bcfc1903 wrote: Luckily we pay a decent manger to do the job...some of the stuff in the above thread is hilarious. BCFC have had a great season, if we go unbeaten til the end of the season, BCFC will be there or there abouts, what ever happens this season...it's been a fairytale, for BCFC to play in a domestic major cup final is incredible!!!!!. CTIDAll managers lose their way from time to time so how about accepting that could happen to Parkinson. Everybody on here understands what he has achieved by getting us to the cup final but take that away and he would have had an extended budget and still not brought us any further in league standards. It doesn't matter where we end up in the league this season 8th or 18th, only play-offs or better can be seen as improvement. He knew we were lacking in some positions when the transfer market was open but he opted not to strengthen those. Now he is suffering with lack of goals and results. So going unbeaten to the end of the season with 7 draws 3 wins and missing out on promotion is satisfying to you. Why did he push the boat out on bringing Davies back to the club for one year only if he had no intention of getting out of the league this year?. Players who come in for one year only are not here to build up for a push the following season.
Prisoner Cell Block A
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12:54pm Fri 15 Mar 13
KnightMcCall wrote:I think I know as much but without the league management experience.
Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all.
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
I have played, managed and coached from NE Counties through to Sunday Alliance and also have a seasons Academy coaching experience with a local club.
At no point in any of the 36 years I was involved in the playing or management have I or any of my managers or coaches thought that a wholesale change of 6 players was a good idea.
Also, why did Jonny Mac need rotating? Not played half a season so isn't tired, mentally or physically. Duke leaves us exposed to set pieces and crosses and isn't that brilliant a shot stopper unless it is within a foot of him.
It isn't the players that are tired which is costing us points it is the set up to not lose a game, which as Dann has pointed out many times has a usual two outcomes, a 0-0 or a low scoring defeat.
Great.
Parky has delivered something we could never have dreamt of, neither could the chairmen, instead of this being a springboard to go out and get at teams of a lesser stature he has used it as an excuse for the continuation of our poor form.. We would have been better going all out to win all the games since Wembley but only winning three, unbeaten runs at this end of the season count only if they are winning, unbeaten runs.
Michael Clayton
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1:38pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Victor Clayton wrote:Thanks Mr Claypole.
Michael Clayton wrote:good post Michael.numerouno2 wrote:As you are so keen to have a go at PP, remind yourself that he generated the income (through the cup run) in order to cover the extended budget. He achieved a Wembley date (through his managerial ability) and, in so doing, has boosted net profit. To suggest that PP has not brought the club any further (in league standards) is incorrect. Look at the league table on this day in 2012 and see how desperate the situation was. One contributor referred to the narcissistic tendencies of the fans. I would go further by adding that it has been a demonstration of sheer ignorance. Can critics not understand that this has been an extraordinary (in the sense of very unusual) season? Or are you simply going to lambast a man who has not completed a full season in the hot-seat? By some, his achievements are treated as 'luck' whilst league setbacks are down to bad management. His perfectly rational explanantions are treated as 'excuses'. One thing is for sure, if he goes it is back to square one. If he stays, you critics will end up eating humble pie.bcfc1903 wrote: Luckily we pay a decent manger to do the job...some of the stuff in the above thread is hilarious. BCFC have had a great season, if we go unbeaten til the end of the season, BCFC will be there or there abouts, what ever happens this season...it's been a fairytale, for BCFC to play in a domestic major cup final is incredible!!!!!. CTIDAll managers lose their way from time to time so how about accepting that could happen to Parkinson. Everybody on here understands what he has achieved by getting us to the cup final but take that away and he would have had an extended budget and still not brought us any further in league standards. It doesn't matter where we end up in the league this season 8th or 18th, only play-offs or better can be seen as improvement. He knew we were lacking in some positions when the transfer market was open but he opted not to strengthen those. Now he is suffering with lack of goals and results. So going unbeaten to the end of the season with 7 draws 3 wins and missing out on promotion is satisfying to you. Why did he push the boat out on bringing Davies back to the club for one year only if he had no intention of getting out of the league this year?. Players who come in for one year only are not here to build up for a push the following season.
numerouno2
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2:03pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Michael Clayton wrote:Even you and many others are going to dine out on the Cup run and bringing finances to the club. Don't get me wrong I loved every minute of that cup run and the wembley experience but on the 25th February it was business as usual. Ask yourself what his brief was?. To stay in the same league we have been stuck in for many a season or have a go at getting us out. Like I said it doesn't matter what position we end up in the league progress would have been the play offs or promotion (footballing perspective). It just makes me smile that folk on here aren't allowed an opinion or a view as to what they think about the manager or playing staff. Parkinson might not be doing it for me at the moment but I don't boo just cheer, but I suppose that's wrong as from my opinions I should just be constantly booing !!
Victor Clayton wrote:Thanks Mr Claypole.Michael Clayton wrote:good post Michael.numerouno2 wrote:As you are so keen to have a go at PP, remind yourself that he generated the income (through the cup run) in order to cover the extended budget. He achieved a Wembley date (through his managerial ability) and, in so doing, has boosted net profit. To suggest that PP has not brought the club any further (in league standards) is incorrect. Look at the league table on this day in 2012 and see how desperate the situation was. One contributor referred to the narcissistic tendencies of the fans. I would go further by adding that it has been a demonstration of sheer ignorance. Can critics not understand that this has been an extraordinary (in the sense of very unusual) season? Or are you simply going to lambast a man who has not completed a full season in the hot-seat? By some, his achievements are treated as 'luck' whilst league setbacks are down to bad management. His perfectly rational explanantions are treated as 'excuses'. One thing is for sure, if he goes it is back to square one. If he stays, you critics will end up eating humble pie.bcfc1903 wrote: Luckily we pay a decent manger to do the job...some of the stuff in the above thread is hilarious. BCFC have had a great season, if we go unbeaten til the end of the season, BCFC will be there or there abouts, what ever happens this season...it's been a fairytale, for BCFC to play in a domestic major cup final is incredible!!!!!. CTIDAll managers lose their way from time to time so how about accepting that could happen to Parkinson. Everybody on here understands what he has achieved by getting us to the cup final but take that away and he would have had an extended budget and still not brought us any further in league standards. It doesn't matter where we end up in the league this season 8th or 18th, only play-offs or better can be seen as improvement. He knew we were lacking in some positions when the transfer market was open but he opted not to strengthen those. Now he is suffering with lack of goals and results. So going unbeaten to the end of the season with 7 draws 3 wins and missing out on promotion is satisfying to you. Why did he push the boat out on bringing Davies back to the club for one year only if he had no intention of getting out of the league this year?. Players who come in for one year only are not here to build up for a push the following season.
Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:20pm Fri 15 Mar 13
The start of the season directive was play-offs as a minimum, not as some have suggested a season of building, you don't sign Andrew Davies on his wages with consolidation in mind.
The brief for this squad to hit the play-offs is still alive but the set up to not lose will see that disappear this weekend as a point from this game leaves Exeter still 9 in front and others will also have moved ahead.
Every game since Wembley had to be s**t or bust, it hasn't been.
Rested players, vast amount of games, none of it now counts, lose or draw the next match and they may as well all have a rest, I cannot fathom how anyone can think tiredness or fatigue in young sportsmen who have spent their lives training for such a season could be a drawback, this is the time when players who have not been injured all season should be at their fittest, the manager and coach stop the physical training and work on set moves and pattern. All with intelligence on the next opponents and with a determined desire to break them down early and punish them.
KnightMcCall
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2:35pm Fri 15 Mar 13
macca1969 wrote:Macca; is English your first language? Just because I am open in saying that I do not "understand" the decisions does not mean that a) PP's decisions are wrong or b) that I believe I know more than he does. There is no criticism, and certainly no suggestion of what is right or wrong. I found the selection puzzling but as I commented additionally; I do not have the same info as PP does when he selects his team. A few others on here would be well advised to understand that they do not have the full facts with regards to how the team is selected and why either. There is no problem with people saying that they have other ideas but to criticise the man who got the team to Wembley when "they do not understand the game as well as the professionals do" is downright foolish. Anyone can have an opinion but criticising what you do not understand is foolish. Finding something bizarre is not a criticism and is as much a comment on my own limitations. In short PP is 100% right, those who criticise from the outside do not understand the game (or in most cases reality).
KnightMcCall wrote:KnightMcCall says...
Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all.
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
7:08pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Nelson in the starting line-up and on the bench! Come on Simon.
No Wells, Hanson or Connell? Bizarre! I hope that this works PP 'cos we need points right now. Really thought Connell would get a start tonight alongside Thompson or Hanson. There is rotation and their is madness!! Hines and Reid need stormers for this to work.
Come on City!!”
does this include you too km lmao
KnightMcCall
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2:47pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Your management and coaching credentials are way above mine PCBA but PP has played pro football and managed at a very high level with additional FA badges and experience to his name. I am sure that you would agree that with the scientific facts available to Pro managers and the wealth of stats on fitness, nutrition etc available as well as the full time training that PP will have much more to think about than a semi-pro or amateur coach/manager.
KnightMcCall wrote:I think I know as much but without the league management experience.
Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all.
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
I have played, managed and coached from NE Counties through to Sunday Alliance and also have a seasons Academy coaching experience with a local club.
At no point in any of the 36 years I was involved in the playing or management have I or any of my managers or coaches thought that a wholesale change of 6 players was a good idea.
Also, why did Jonny Mac need rotating? Not played half a season so isn't tired, mentally or physically. Duke leaves us exposed to set pieces and crosses and isn't that brilliant a shot stopper unless it is within a foot of him.
It isn't the players that are tired which is costing us points it is the set up to not lose a game, which as Dann has pointed out many times has a usual two outcomes, a 0-0 or a low scoring defeat.
Great.
Parky has delivered something we could never have dreamt of, neither could the chairmen, instead of this being a springboard to go out and get at teams of a lesser stature he has used it as an excuse for the continuation of our poor form.. We would have been better going all out to win all the games since Wembley but only winning three, unbeaten runs at this end of the season count only if they are winning, unbeaten runs.
I don't know why J Mac was dropped but Victor pointed out that his kicking last Saturday was poor.
As for the devensive set up; whilst I am not saying whether PP is doing this deliberately or not (4-4-2 is not exactly defensive away from home and 20 shots isn't indicative of a defensive set up either); I would totally disagree with Dann. George Graham one the title with these tactics and Kevin Keegan lost the title without them?
it's not a simple task trying to satisfy the fans of 1 team out of 24 in a division. I have sympathy for PP and previous managers because they do know more about team selection than the fans do and every single week they have another team deliverately trying to stop them achieving what some people seem to believe should be simple...it is frustrating but there is in most cases; no way of winning.
Michael Clayton
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3:42pm Fri 15 Mar 13
numerouno2 wrote:Who has said that "folk" are not entitled to an opinion?
Michael Clayton wrote:Even you and many others are going to dine out on the Cup run and bringing finances to the club. Don't get me wrong I loved every minute of that cup run and the wembley experience but on the 25th February it was business as usual. Ask yourself what his brief was?. To stay in the same league we have been stuck in for many a season or have a go at getting us out. Like I said it doesn't matter what position we end up in the league progress would have been the play offs or promotion (footballing perspective). It just makes me smile that folk on here aren't allowed an opinion or a view as to what they think about the manager or playing staff. Parkinson might not be doing it for me at the moment but I don't boo just cheer, but I suppose that's wrong as from my opinions I should just be constantly booing !!Victor Clayton wrote:Thanks Mr Claypole.Michael Clayton wrote:good post Michael.numerouno2 wrote:As you are so keen to have a go at PP, remind yourself that he generated the income (through the cup run) in order to cover the extended budget. He achieved a Wembley date (through his managerial ability) and, in so doing, has boosted net profit. To suggest that PP has not brought the club any further (in league standards) is incorrect. Look at the league table on this day in 2012 and see how desperate the situation was. One contributor referred to the narcissistic tendencies of the fans. I would go further by adding that it has been a demonstration of sheer ignorance. Can critics not understand that this has been an extraordinary (in the sense of very unusual) season? Or are you simply going to lambast a man who has not completed a full season in the hot-seat? By some, his achievements are treated as 'luck' whilst league setbacks are down to bad management. His perfectly rational explanantions are treated as 'excuses'. One thing is for sure, if he goes it is back to square one. If he stays, you critics will end up eating humble pie.bcfc1903 wrote: Luckily we pay a decent manger to do the job...some of the stuff in the above thread is hilarious. BCFC have had a great season, if we go unbeaten til the end of the season, BCFC will be there or there abouts, what ever happens this season...it's been a fairytale, for BCFC to play in a domestic major cup final is incredible!!!!!. CTIDAll managers lose their way from time to time so how about accepting that could happen to Parkinson. Everybody on here understands what he has achieved by getting us to the cup final but take that away and he would have had an extended budget and still not brought us any further in league standards. It doesn't matter where we end up in the league this season 8th or 18th, only play-offs or better can be seen as improvement. He knew we were lacking in some positions when the transfer market was open but he opted not to strengthen those. Now he is suffering with lack of goals and results. So going unbeaten to the end of the season with 7 draws 3 wins and missing out on promotion is satisfying to you. Why did he push the boat out on bringing Davies back to the club for one year only if he had no intention of getting out of the league this year?. Players who come in for one year only are not here to build up for a push the following season.
I am not aware of anyone being barred.
Surely, it is the opinions expressed that fuel the debate?
I think that what you really mean is that folk are not entitled to be critical.
If this is the case, where is the evidence?
BANTAM PAUL
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4:04pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:16pm Fri 15 Mar 13
I don't know why J Mac was dropped but Victor pointed out that his kicking last Saturday was poor.
Both good and valid points Knight, as is the point re the opponents being just as professional and trying to stop us whilst trying to win themselves.
I'm certainly not calling for PPs head but even when playing with wingers he has them more prepped to be defensive than offensive, this isn't always needed, tracking back and grafting for sure but hanging back when going forward, which they do and also having two CMs that don't exactly bust a gut to get in the ops box makes the team very defensive even if a 4-4-2.
My thoughts are that we are still in with a shout of getting the 7th spot but only by winning games, once this is achieved PPs tactics can revert to the cup style and lock out the ops as winning any of the 3 play off games is not vital, we can go through and up by drawing all 3 0-0 and taking it to pens :)
macca1969
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5:06pm Fri 15 Mar 13
KnightMcCall wrote:I understand English very well and in your original post you don't just say you don't understand it but call it madness! This implies a level if criticism as you also state we need the win and you hope it works. We didn't win and some will say it didn't work.
macca1969 wrote:Macca; is English your first language? Just because I am open in saying that I do not "understand" the decisions does not mean that a) PP's decisions are wrong or b) that I believe I know more than he does. There is no criticism, and certainly no suggestion of what is right or wrong. I found the selection puzzling but as I commented additionally; I do not have the same info as PP does when he selects his team. A few others on here would be well advised to understand that they do not have the full facts with regards to how the team is selected and why either. There is no problem with people saying that they have other ideas but to criticise the man who got the team to Wembley when "they do not understand the game as well as the professionals do" is downright foolish. Anyone can have an opinion but criticising what you do not understand is foolish. Finding something bizarre is not a criticism and is as much a comment on my own limitations. In short PP is 100% right, those who criticise from the outside do not understand the game (or in most cases reality).
KnightMcCall wrote:KnightMcCall says...
Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all.
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
7:08pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Nelson in the starting line-up and on the bench! Come on Simon.
No Wells, Hanson or Connell? Bizarre! I hope that this works PP 'cos we need points right now. Really thought Connell would get a start tonight alongside Thompson or Hanson. There is rotation and their is madness!! Hines and Reid need stormers for this to work.
Come on City!!”
does this include you too km lmao
You are calling the rotation madness but are telling others to shut up with their own opinions on the rotation. What is the difference? After all other posters are entitled to voice they opinions as long as they are done in a correct way.
I want parky to stay on if possible and build upon this season but I don't care what he says the rotation isn't working, yes he might know more than me and I should hope he does but at the end ot the day the results don't lie, we look a disjointed outfit at times and the constant chopping and changing of so many players is obviously one of the reasons. This isn't me or more of the more reasoned posters saying he is now a poor manager far from it. He is still the man I think is the best shot to take us up but I don't have to agree with everything he says or does wether he knows more or not
collos25
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6:30pm Sat 16 Mar 13
t'old man
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pudseykid
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essess
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pudseykid
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11:47am Mon 18 Mar 13
KnightMcCall wrote:His managerial record is 1 win in every 3 games. in my time of working in Bradford..everywhere i worked i was set a target-hit it...do well, miss and there would be a review...I may not know much about football...I simply want BFD out of this league..i do not see PP delivering that...but i am happy to conceed/apologize if wrong..as yet he hasnt proved me wrong...and boy do I want him to...in 2013-14 he does win 1 in every 3...it wont be enough to get promoted...Exeter are doing so much better than us..and if U look at the backroom staff, the management team, directors etc...its a wonder how they manage it with 3800 fans to every home game...we get 10500 and we continue to struggle...SO, exactly WHO is to blame?..McCall built HIS side...didnt get anywhere..went to Motherwell and look at the turnaround...I want PP to achieve that promotion...he just doesnt inspire my confidence and the excuses wouldnt work outside of football
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Your management and coaching credentials are way above mine PCBA but PP has played pro football and managed at a very high level with additional FA badges and experience to his name. I am sure that you would agree that with the scientific facts available to Pro managers and the wealth of stats on fitness, nutrition etc available as well as the full time training that PP will have much more to think about than a semi-pro or amateur coach/manager.
KnightMcCall wrote:I think I know as much but without the league management experience.
Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all.
Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP?
Good, none of you so shut up.
I have played, managed and coached from NE Counties through to Sunday Alliance and also have a seasons Academy coaching experience with a local club.
At no point in any of the 36 years I was involved in the playing or management have I or any of my managers or coaches thought that a wholesale change of 6 players was a good idea.
Also, why did Jonny Mac need rotating? Not played half a season so isn't tired, mentally or physically. Duke leaves us exposed to set pieces and crosses and isn't that brilliant a shot stopper unless it is within a foot of him.
It isn't the players that are tired which is costing us points it is the set up to not lose a game, which as Dann has pointed out many times has a usual two outcomes, a 0-0 or a low scoring defeat.
Great.
Parky has delivered something we could never have dreamt of, neither could the chairmen, instead of this being a springboard to go out and get at teams of a lesser stature he has used it as an excuse for the continuation of our poor form.. We would have been better going all out to win all the games since Wembley but only winning three, unbeaten runs at this end of the season count only if they are winning, unbeaten runs.
I don't know why J Mac was dropped but Victor pointed out that his kicking last Saturday was poor.
As for the devensive set up; whilst I am not saying whether PP is doing this deliberately or not (4-4-2 is not exactly defensive away from home and 20 shots isn't indicative of a defensive set up either); I would totally disagree with Dann. George Graham one the title with these tactics and Kevin Keegan lost the title without them?
it's not a simple task trying to satisfy the fans of 1 team out of 24 in a division. I have sympathy for PP and previous managers because they do know more about team selection than the fans do and every single week they have another team deliverately trying to stop them achieving what some people seem to believe should be simple...it is frustrating but there is in most cases; no way of winning.
dannbradfc
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8:57am Tue 19 Mar 13
KnightMcCall wrote:Only just seen my name referenced here.
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Your management and coaching credentials are way above mine PCBA but PP has played pro football and managed at a very high level with additional FA badges and experience to his name. I am sure that you would agree that with the scientific facts available to Pro managers and the wealth of stats on fitness, nutrition etc available as well as the full time training that PP will have much more to think about than a semi-pro or amateur coach/manager. I don't know why J Mac was dropped but Victor pointed out that his kicking last Saturday was poor. As for the devensive set up; whilst I am not saying whether PP is doing this deliberately or not (4-4-2 is not exactly defensive away from home and 20 shots isn't indicative of a defensive set up either); I would totally disagree with Dann. George Graham one the title with these tactics and Kevin Keegan lost the title without them? it's not a simple task trying to satisfy the fans of 1 team out of 24 in a division. I have sympathy for PP and previous managers because they do know more about team selection than the fans do and every single week they have another team deliverately trying to stop them achieving what some people seem to believe should be simple...it is frustrating but there is in most cases; no way of winning.KnightMcCall wrote: Two really simple things. Parky has said "anyone who doesn't understand the need to rotate doesn't understand football". He has not had a go at supporters and this is a new article so it is not actually very clear who he is responding to at all. Secondly, please state for the record, who on here thinks they know more about football than PP? Good, none of you so shut up.I think I know as much but without the league management experience. I have played, managed and coached from NE Counties through to Sunday Alliance and also have a seasons Academy coaching experience with a local club. At no point in any of the 36 years I was involved in the playing or management have I or any of my managers or coaches thought that a wholesale change of 6 players was a good idea. Also, why did Jonny Mac need rotating? Not played half a season so isn't tired, mentally or physically. Duke leaves us exposed to set pieces and crosses and isn't that brilliant a shot stopper unless it is within a foot of him. It isn't the players that are tired which is costing us points it is the set up to not lose a game, which as Dann has pointed out many times has a usual two outcomes, a 0-0 or a low scoring defeat. Great. Parky has delivered something we could never have dreamt of, neither could the chairmen, instead of this being a springboard to go out and get at teams of a lesser stature he has used it as an excuse for the continuation of our poor form.. We would have been better going all out to win all the games since Wembley but only winning three, unbeaten runs at this end of the season count only if they are winning, unbeaten runs.
Whilst your example of aresenal is valid its the only one you can find in the past 30 years approx. Why? cos all the others e.g. Man utd are attack minded thus you actually support my point.
Indeed the only opposite example you use supports it further. Newcastle lost the title because they played attacking football you claim. Well firstly they still finished 2nd which is great and the highest they've done as a club in their entire history. And 2nd would get us automatic promotio0n and not sitting in mid-table, hoping. Plus they lost it to a side that also attacked and NOT a defensive side thus your point is extremely flawed bordering on bunkum.......
Thus your one example is dwarfed by the attacking sides who have finished league winners year after year........why because in order to beat the opposition at some stage you after score goals and to do this regularly you have to create enough chances to win games........

Sandy lane bantam says...
7:06am Thu 14 Mar 13
If we are resting players because they are tired then why is Connell constantly sat on the bench? He has only played a handful of games this year. I know it is difficult to put him into the 4-4-2 system but change it. The current system is hardly working and he is one of the few players with a spark at the moment. Got to be worth trying to accommodate him. What have we got to lose in our position?