Bradford City chief wants fans to flock to celebration party against Dagenham (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

What about the other 20k that were at wembley?? Don't think you can just come to a cup final and not join us in the league games!

We'd all love to see that Mark but is it going to happen? no.

I would be suprised if we have over 10k there tomorrow.
There will be about 50 Daggers fans sow will know how many Bradford fans are in the ground.

Congratulations Mark on your excellent PR job on local and National Media. Heartfelt and genuine. Realsitically a couple of thousand on the gate might be possible but its going to take a lot more to get the "daytrippers" out on a cold Wed night! Just a note on the speculation about foreign investment following our increase in profile ..please safeguard the clubs soul and identity..keep the club grounded sustainable and ideally locally owned despite the temptation to bale!.

As a season ticket holder I don't know, but can you still pay on the gate

why not offer a fiver a head for the game and get some of those none season ticket people to come . After all they have had an expensive week end and laying out another £20 or so will be difficult to find.

Wembley should be ashamed of themselves charging £5.50 for a pint. Disgusing

Never been a big fan of ML, but he's gone up in my estimation over the last fortnight - genuine and proud of what we've achieved. Well done ML.
As for extra supporters against Dagenham - yes, it would be great. For those supporters who travelled to Wembley, without having been down to VP for a while, the big occasion may have been a bit of a let down (on the pitch anyway). However, those who've witnessed the cup run first hand, and have seen some of the spectacular league performances this year..... well personally, I feel nothing other than pride for this club and what its achieved.
ps : £5.50 a pint, shut up moaning (and it was £4.70 on the concourse, where were you?)

its gone now and so will some of the 'plastics' who contributed to a strange atmosphere in wembley at times. We need to rally, go for three points every game and we maybe able to compete to go to wembley again.

If we are more positive and have a good run of results, third place is still an ooutside possibility but i feel that 6th and 7th place is the aim and more realistic. But this won't be acheived with cautious first football........

All I know is that these so called 'plastics' are the ones who brought all that extra revenue in for the rounds before Wembley. It seems counterintuitive to brand them 'plastic', suggesting 'fake'. I'm not saying there weren't any day troopers at Wembley or at Villa and Arsenal etc, what I am saying is that there will certainly be bigger fans of BCFC that work weekends, some that can't afford to come week in week out. There will be some Bradford fans that don't enjoy the live atmosphere and prefer to listen to the game on their radio, they may not even live in Bradford anymore! Just a small sample of scenarios here. People should be encouraged to come when they can, not brow-beaten when they don't.

As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

The three plastics who i got ticket for wembley will be there tomorrow night. Ive not managed to convert them fully to bradford city but im working on it!!

Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money.
I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though.
I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it.
People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future.
A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

BCAFCTID wrote:
What about the other 20k that were at wembley?? Don't think you can just come to a cup final and not join us in the league games!

why not?....i do not wish to be offensive here to the community around VP but it was remarkable how many asians were at wembley...i hardly ever see any at VP on match days...WE WANT U TO JOIN US...you were there at Wembley COME to VP and cheer on the "your" local team

Think if a club wants to have a ticket offer they need Football League permission, god knows why. Remember Lawn once saying we can only have something like 6 discounted matches a season?

But yeah, like we've often said - Bradford City are for life, not just for Wembley.

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

And there were approx. 20,000 empty seats at Wembley. Enough for everyone! Plus empty seats in both City and Swansea areas. No shortage of seats then!

tyker2 wrote:
why not offer a fiver a head for the game and get some of those none season ticket people to come . After all they have had an expensive week end and laying out another £20 or so will be difficult to find.

Wembley should be ashamed of themselves charging £5.50 for a pint. Disgusing

YES NOW...here is something I DO totally agree with...According to the signs OVER the entry point..WE were not allowed to even take bottled water in (so that they could charge £2 for a bottle)..I also agree that for THIS ONE Game, since many paid out for the final, that £5 would be a great move by the club for those who dont have season tickets..and perhaps £10 per home game until season is over.

tyker2 wrote:
why not offer a fiver a head for the game and get some of those none season ticket people to come . After all they have had an expensive week end and laying out another £20 or so will be difficult to find. Wembley should be ashamed of themselves charging £5.50 for a pint. Disgusing

It's yer London innit! No digusing that.

pudseykid wrote:

tyker2 wrote:
why not offer a fiver a head for the game and get some of those none season ticket people to come . After all they have had an expensive week end and laying out another £20 or so will be difficult to find.

Wembley should be ashamed of themselves charging £5.50 for a pint. Disgusing

YES NOW...here is something I DO totally agree with...According to the signs OVER the entry point..WE were not allowed to even take bottled water in (so that they could charge £2 for a bottle)..I also agree that for THIS ONE Game, since many paid out for the final, that £5 would be a great move by the club for those who dont have season tickets..and perhaps £10 per home game until season is over.

My dad and I each had a sealed bottle of water that we were made to pour into a plastic cup each by the turnstiles and then carry them all the way to our seats. Usual heavy-handed stewards and rules.

cheekymofo wrote:
The three plastics who i got ticket for wembley will be there tomorrow night. Ive not managed to convert them fully to bradford city but im working on it!!

Brilliant... I've not had a season ticket for the last 5 or so seasons. That was simply for the fact I stopped enjoying it!!

We were signing loan players and freebies that no one else wanted therefore it felt like there was a lack of passion on the pitch.

However this season (and not just the cup run) has reignited my love for watching Bradford City as I can see the players actually seem to care about the club and the fans!! me and my 6 other mates have all got our season tickets for next year and since December I've been to the majority of home and away games..

Call me a plastic and a Bandwagon Jumper all you want I don't care!!!

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

Peter300 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

And there were approx. 20,000 empty seats at Wembley. Enough for everyone! Plus empty seats in both City and Swansea areas. No shortage of seats then!

Well there was just short of 8,000 seats it only holds 90,000 but with segregation and other thing the capacity will only ever be about 88,000 even for England games

pudseykid wrote:

tyker2 wrote: why not offer a fiver a head for the game and get some of those none season ticket people to come . After all they have had an expensive week end and laying out another £20 or so will be difficult to find. Wembley should be ashamed of themselves charging £5.50 for a pint. Disgusing

YES NOW...here is something I DO totally agree with...According to the signs OVER the entry point..WE were not allowed to even take bottled water in (so that they could charge £2 for a bottle)..I also agree that for THIS ONE Game, since many paid out for the final, that £5 would be a great move by the club for those who dont have season tickets..and perhaps £10 per home game until season is over.

Cartons allowed. Plus 'decanting' water bottles. Have a big slurp of water (Yorkshire: both the liquid and the accent) before placing the empty water bottle in the recycling bin so kindly supplied by Wembley PLC.

Lets not forget how much revenue the club made from these so called "plastics".....shirt sales,ticket sales etc.....just think how empty the City end would have bee if they had just taken their usual away support !! How many home supporters go to every away game ? certainly not 9 - 10,000......

RE THE CUP FINAL: Swansea bought the CUP. just like Chelsea and Man C have done..PP said in his interview after the game that for 1 weeks wages for one of their players he was able to put this side together..The CUP Run was a remarkable achievement..Now turn up on Wednesday and support the team, hes doing a good job, and whilst he may be able to do a better one, he got us to wembley and beat 3 better sides enroute (4 if u count watford-also higher than us in the league system)

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

mjkyorkshire wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money.
I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though.
I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it.
People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future.
A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

bravo! for us (230 miles away), it would be loss of earnings (cos i would have to leave the office early-Im a temp!) then the cost of fuel and ticket, which is £10 as a flexi holder..then late to work on Thursday morning..I recommend the £50 flexi-ticket to everyone and im with U mjkyorkshire..hence why i do have to pick and choose, i have had to cancel my trip on 9/3 due to working 4 days a week now..but i plan on being at Exeter and Torquay, but cant do plymouth

Some fair comments here.
Onr thing id like to say is, rather than play a game of im a bigger fan than you are. And refer to each other as plastics and whatever, now is the time we need to rally together and keep the good vibes going.
I will be at V P Wed night, and return to Oz on Thurs, and have loved the games i have been to thus far, and meeting the local bantams and having a pint or two with them.
The city fans have a special unity between them, unlike some of the swansea people i came across!

I agree Swansea bought the cup, but so we if we were in their position. This is the nature of modern football

If its not too late, cmon City reduce the cost of Daggers match, At least give a voucher for a reduced price fixture at a later date.

There is no such thing as a plastic fan. Just varying degrees of commitment depending on circumstances and choice. Yes there is some who choose just the big games but is that not true everywhere and whatever the sport is.

There is one excellent point above. Most of the extra Wembley ticket sales went via season ticket and flexicard holders. It then is up to us to bring as many down on Wednesday as possible, depending again on choice and circumstances. My extra plastic fan at Wembley was my good wife. She will be there on Wednesday.

CMON CITY

the atmosphere at wembley was strange to say the least - good but strange. Fairly impossible to get any real songs going but my wife loved waiving her flag and yes it looked brilliant but i cant wait to
at back to being a proper city fan tomrrow night and at York.
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Kind of relived the cup run is over so we can concentrate on getting out of this sorry league.
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Hopefully the players will take the pain of sunday out on Dag & Red tomorrow.

it is strange when ST's slag off the friends and family THEY got to the game ....

shows a lack of intellignece for sure ...

my crew were lower than plastic as we spent 12 hours outside vp in the night for our branding of 'the 1200' ..

but i will be there with my boy and our flags ...i just hope there is a special deal to attract many more for the homecoming game ...

we wont get 15000 without an incentive deal ....

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

100% CORRECT!!.
We treat the NON SEASON ticket holders like "DIRT"....having to queue in the Freezing cold for 1500 tickets (with conditions attached!) then expect the same people to pay £20 for the privalage on Wednesday night.
So many mistakes made over the ticket allocation .......
AND.....the latest coming out of Valley Parade Towers.."WE ONLY MADE 700K" from the whole thing??!!. BEYOND BELIEF!!.

gspot01 wrote:
the atmosphere at wembley was strange to say the least - good but strange. Fairly impossible to get any real songs going but my wife loved waiving her flag and yes it looked brilliant but i cant wait to
at back to being a proper city fan tomrrow night and at York.
.
Kind of relived the cup run is over so we can concentrate on getting out of this sorry league.
.
Hopefully the players will take the pain of sunday out on Dag & Red tomorrow.

I was lucky enough to be sat with a great bunch and we didn't shut up for most of the game!! Even the Swansea fan who was sat next to me (must have bought a ticket from a tout) was waving their city flag and joining in... Fair play she didn't celebrate when they scored either!!! Must say every Swansea fan i met was top class!!!

Let's hope that a substantial number of the non-seaon ticket holders turn up on Wednesday to give a 'reception' to the team. They certainly deserve it!

After reflecting on the 'Wembley Experience' and having had the opportunity to see the TV highlights and read the reports in the papers incl. the 'nationals' I've decided that 24 February represented the best AND worst of football in this present era!

First the 'Best':

The getting up in the morning, with the Xmas feeling of anticipation.

The assembling at thge interchange with fellow fans/travelling down in the coach/banter etc

The moment when all the City fans stood to sing, "Stand Up If You Love City" was my 'highlight and showed why our club's fans are amongst the best. It also clearly 'flagged up' (pun!)that City's fans have a 'special bond' with their team. Next to me was a little Asian boy and his dad and grandad and we were all singng and shouting for Bradford which was terrific.

The 'spectacle' before/during the game with the flags/banners incl. the 'Remember the 56' being passed round was wonderful, and seeing 'PP' in his adjacent technical area to Michael Laudrup (who surely has a great future as one of Europe's top coaches)

Seeing Jonny Mac's brilliant save and Jonesie's shot met with non-ironic cheering will live in the memory too

Yes and Swansea's terrific passing play-which on another day I would have admired-the way the game SHOULD be played-will 'stick' though 'hurt'

Seeing Swansea fans having their photos taken with City fans was heartening.


The Worst:

The 'corporate' 'Club Wembley' middle strip of Wembley two thirds empty-despite 'Sold Out' signs outside.

The COST of Wembley 'fare' (which I refused to purchase-thank goodness my wife saw me right!!)

pint-£5.50

crisps-£1.50

The 'waiting' after arriving at noon, and later having seen 'everything' around Wembley going in to the ground at 2pm and having to hang around for two more hours before kick off DUE TO 'SKY TV'!

The fact that you knew that Swansea's team, despite being brilliant, were mainly 'foreign 'mercenaries' on obscene wages and probably only a couple had even heard of 'Land Of My Fathers' that their fans sang so lustily.

That the ground has lost something by NOT having the twin towers any more, that I remember when I came in 1996. That reminded me of Wembley's past history. Todays ground though impressive/modern facilities lacks 'history'. Coming up Wembley Way, he 'towers' coming in to view was far more impressive tha 'the 'arc'. But then modern football is really most concened about TODAY and the past seems..less important!!

Despite everything, yes, I would still have paid out the £110 approx. that the whole thing cost incl. ticket/travel/scarf/
badge/progra,me etc but, to be honest, despite all the 'pluses' in terms of comfort/safety which are certainly a + , Wembley confirmed for me that overall, 'football' has lost something over the years!

Sunday was a great day - but it has gone now.

Hopefully some of those that were there on Sunday will come again the VP but we cannot make them. A reduced ticket price is a nice idea.

But whoever comes down on Weds bring your flags and lets welcome the lads back and appreciate what they have done so far this season.

shaun from richmond wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

100% CORRECT!!.
We treat the NON SEASON ticket holders like "DIRT"....havin
g to queue in the Freezing cold for 1500 tickets (with conditions attached!) then expect the same people to pay £20 for the privalage on Wednesday night.
So many mistakes made over the ticket allocation .......
AND.....the latest coming out of Valley Parade Towers.."WE ONLY MADE 700K" from the whole thing??!!. BEYOND BELIEF!!.

Heard Mark Lawn make your above comment in his interview on Radio Leeds last Wednesday evening "WE ONLY MADE 700K" but he did say that would be after all monies were paid out bonus's ETC so I would have thought that WOULD have included his £1million loan to the club,if not I think there has been some very economic accounting going on.

Cityman23 wrote:
Let's hope that a substantial number of the non-seaon ticket holders turn up on Wednesday to give a 'reception' to the team. They certainly deserve it! After reflecting on the 'Wembley Experience' and having had the opportunity to see the TV highlights and read the reports in the papers incl. the 'nationals' I've decided that 24 February represented the best AND worst of football in this present era! First the 'Best': The getting up in the morning, with the Xmas feeling of anticipation. The assembling at thge interchange with fellow fans/travelling down in the coach/banter etc The moment when all the City fans stood to sing, "Stand Up If You Love City" was my 'highlight and showed why our club's fans are amongst the best. It also clearly 'flagged up' (pun!)that City's fans have a 'special bond' with their team. Next to me was a little Asian boy and his dad and grandad and we were all singng and shouting for Bradford which was terrific. The 'spectacle' before/during the game with the flags/banners incl. the 'Remember the 56' being passed round was wonderful, and seeing 'PP' in his adjacent technical area to Michael Laudrup (who surely has a great future as one of Europe's top coaches) Seeing Jonny Mac's brilliant save and Jonesie's shot met with non-ironic cheering will live in the memory too Yes and Swansea's terrific passing play-which on another day I would have admired-the way the game SHOULD be played-will 'stick' though 'hurt' Seeing Swansea fans having their photos taken with City fans was heartening. The Worst: The 'corporate' 'Club Wembley' middle strip of Wembley two thirds empty-despite 'Sold Out' signs outside. The COST of Wembley 'fare' (which I refused to purchase-thank goodness my wife saw me right!!) pint-£5.50 crisps-£1.50 The 'waiting' after arriving at noon, and later having seen 'everything' around Wembley going in to the ground at 2pm and having to hang around for two more hours before kick off DUE TO 'SKY TV'! The fact that you knew that Swansea's team, despite being brilliant, were mainly 'foreign 'mercenaries' on obscene wages and probably only a couple had even heard of 'Land Of My Fathers' that their fans sang so lustily. That the ground has lost something by NOT having the twin towers any more, that I remember when I came in 1996. That reminded me of Wembley's past history. Todays ground though impressive/modern facilities lacks 'history'. Coming up Wembley Way, he 'towers' coming in to view was far more impressive tha 'the 'arc'. But then modern football is really most concened about TODAY and the past seems..less important!! Despite everything, yes, I would still have paid out the £110 approx. that the whole thing cost incl. ticket/travel/scarf/ badge/progra,me etc but, to be honest, despite all the 'pluses' in terms of comfort/safety which are certainly a + , Wembley confirmed for me that overall, 'football' has lost something over the years!

A GREAT POST!!.
As a "Club Wembley" member I agree with your points on this subject.
I have 2 seats in this area....I go to both the Cup finals, The Rugby, and a couple of England games a season...the other occasions are taken by relations of mine........but i always knew this section would be half empty "ITS WRONG" and should be stopped!......I complain every year! but nothing is ever done!. I can only remember "ONE" game when it was completley full??.
Take the tickets off the NON attenders is my view........But they are petrified at loosing the 2.5k per member each year which keeps Wembley afloat!!

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

excellent point.

shaun from richmond wrote:

Cityman23 wrote:
Let's hope that a substantial number of the non-seaon ticket holders turn up on Wednesday to give a 'reception' to the team. They certainly deserve it! After reflecting on the 'Wembley Experience' and having had the opportunity to see the TV highlights and read the reports in the papers incl. the 'nationals' I've decided that 24 February represented the best AND worst of football in this present era! First the 'Best': The getting up in the morning, with the Xmas feeling of anticipation. The assembling at thge interchange with fellow fans/travelling down in the coach/banter etc The moment when all the City fans stood to sing, "Stand Up If You Love City" was my 'highlight and showed why our club's fans are amongst the best. It also clearly 'flagged up' (pun!)that City's fans have a 'special bond' with their team. Next to me was a little Asian boy and his dad and grandad and we were all singng and shouting for Bradford which was terrific. The 'spectacle' before/during the game with the flags/banners incl. the 'Remember the 56' being passed round was wonderful, and seeing 'PP' in his adjacent technical area to Michael Laudrup (who surely has a great future as one of Europe's top coaches) Seeing Jonny Mac's brilliant save and Jonesie's shot met with non-ironic cheering will live in the memory too Yes and Swansea's terrific passing play-which on another day I would have admired-the way the game SHOULD be played-will 'stick' though 'hurt' Seeing Swansea fans having their photos taken with City fans was heartening. The Worst: The 'corporate' 'Club Wembley' middle strip of Wembley two thirds empty-despite 'Sold Out' signs outside. The COST of Wembley 'fare' (which I refused to purchase-thank goodness my wife saw me right!!) pint-£5.50 crisps-£1.50 The 'waiting' after arriving at noon, and later having seen 'everything' around Wembley going in to the ground at 2pm and having to hang around for two more hours before kick off DUE TO 'SKY TV'! The fact that you knew that Swansea's team, despite being brilliant, were mainly 'foreign 'mercenaries' on obscene wages and probably only a couple had even heard of 'Land Of My Fathers' that their fans sang so lustily. That the ground has lost something by NOT having the twin towers any more, that I remember when I came in 1996. That reminded me of Wembley's past history. Todays ground though impressive/modern facilities lacks 'history'. Coming up Wembley Way, he 'towers' coming in to view was far more impressive tha 'the 'arc'. But then modern football is really most concened about TODAY and the past seems..less important!! Despite everything, yes, I would still have paid out the £110 approx. that the whole thing cost incl. ticket/travel/scarf/ badge/progra,me etc but, to be honest, despite all the 'pluses' in terms of comfort/safety which are certainly a + , Wembley confirmed for me that overall, 'football' has lost something over the years!

A GREAT POST!!.
As a "Club Wembley" member I agree with your points on this subject.
I have 2 seats in this area....I go to both the Cup finals, The Rugby, and a couple of England games a season...the other occasions are taken by relations of mine........but i always knew this section would be half empty "ITS WRONG" and should be stopped!......I complain every year! but nothing is ever done!. I can only remember "ONE" game when it was completley full??.
Take the tickets off the NON attenders is my view........But they are petrified at loosing the 2.5k per member each year which keeps Wembley afloat!!

Obviously the people who can afford to purchase a "Club Wembley" have the right to attend what games they "fancy" I would have thought most would be southern based so Bradford City Vs Swansea was hardly a game they couldn't miss, I hear what your saying SFR but unfortunately Wembley won't bite the hand that helps feed them, but the sight of all those empty seats (when they could have possibly been filled with Bradford/Swansea City fans was a little annoying), but hay money calls the tune in most if not all walks of life (as I saw for myself whilst browsing down Park Lane and looking at some of those car dealerships) and the cars park outside "The Dorchester Hotel" not that I'm envious :-(( .

mjkyorkshire wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money. I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though. I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it. People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future. A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

mjkyorkshire.. I agree with you. I'm a long-time season ticket holder and think it's unfair to label all those who have to pick and choose as 'plastics' Man U get 75000 not because they are the most loyal, but they have had success.

ps. Despite watching since 1974 and holding a season ticket for 25 seasons since 1980 I was unable to to go to Wembley because I was abroad... am I less of a City fan??

Lets move on from this plastic debate. We have had four season tickets in our family for the last 20 years and on Saturday we had other members of the family with us plus friends. My wife has put up with City and the regular routine of depressed Saturday evenings so I didn't see why she shouldn't participate in the Wembley weekend. With regards to other 'new' faces I am all for trying to convert people to the cause. In the last 48 hours alone I've seen more people wearing claret and amber which is surely a feel good factor for us all. I was converted to BCAFC by the 1976 cup run when my dad and I were plastics at the Southampton game. If we can get momentum in the final third of the season we will maintain the feel good factor and complete the conversion process. I hope that the club can offer some sort of cheap ticket offer to boost gates for our run-in. Also if attendance at Wembley for the play-off final was linked to attending games in the remainder of the season it will focus minds! However, having spent a small fortune at the weekend I can appreciate that not everyone will be able to translate their enthusiasm for City into bums on seats.

Mark Lawn should keep his negotiations with Parky under wraps. There is no need to say "We want him to stay but it’s got to be at a realistic wage". Its a private matter so he should show some class and keep things private. There is no mileage in letting any information out.
Similarly he should never have brought the profits made in the cup run into the public domain. Its obvious that this could have a negative impact on transfer negotiations and player contract discussions.
Apart from that, well done Mark Lawn for turning the club's fortunes around.

The Final as gone its now back to league football. More will come to watch if the team is winning and pressing for Promotion Not if losing to the likes of Wembledon ect.The chance is now there to start a run towards Promotion but it does need a improvement on what has gone before more wins are needed. The Management and some of the Players have stated they are the Best Team in Div 2 So now is the time to show us all that this is so. You have done very well in ite cups now Please do it in Div 2 and i am sure the crowds will grow . GOOD LUCK CITY.LET US START ON WEDNESDAY WITH VICTORY AND THEN GO ON WINNING. Thank you for the Cup ride.

mjkyorkshire wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money.
I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though.
I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it.
People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future.
A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

Not at VP it isn't.

You pay for your £200 ticket which gets you and the under 11s in for 23 matches.


Anyway, this will become circular again and there really is no right or wrong but if you have one pint a week or smoke then you cannot say you cannot afford to watch City at VP as over a year the £200 season ticket works out much cheaper

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

mjkyorkshire wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money.
I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though.
I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it.
People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future.
A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

Not at VP it isn't.

You pay for your £200 ticket which gets you and the under 11s in for 23 matches.


Anyway, this will become circular again and there really is no right or wrong but if you have one pint a week or smoke then you cannot say you cannot afford to watch City at VP as over a year the £200 season ticket works out much cheaper

Unfortunately my under 11s are 20 months and five years old, not an ideal age for a cold afternoon at the footy.
It's not a question of paying for them to go to VP, it's a question of having that spare money for me to go to VP.

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

Please explain to someone as naive as myself how a flexi card can be abused?

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

COLATS wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

I was told at Valley Parade by someone who should know, that the number of season ticket holders/family/frien
ds getting tickets was jus over 27,000 leaving approx. 5000 for general sale.

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

Please explain to someone as naive as myself how a flexi card can be abused?

You go to the ticket office to buy a ticket using a flexi card, you then give your mate the same flexi card that then allows him to either go to the ticket office and use it to buy a ticket. Or use it at the turnstiles

Cityman23 wrote:

COLATS wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

I was told at Valley Parade by someone who should know, that the number of season ticket holders/family/frien ds getting tickets was jus over 27,000 leaving approx. 5000 for general sale.

1,479 went on sale to the GENERAL PUBLIC.........FACT!
!

Cityman23 wrote:

COLATS wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

I was told at Valley Parade by someone who should know, that the number of season ticket holders/family/frien

ds getting tickets was jus over 27,000 leaving approx. 5000 for general sale.

Well ok 27,000 that's still 17,000 fans who for whatever reason don't have a season ticket or flexi card and approx 2,500 (if u assume they bought 2 each) fans for general sale. The point I'm making is ST/FC holders on this site are calling for non ST/FC holders who went to Wembley to turn up tomorrow well they know the majority of them!!!

Cityman23 wrote:

COLATS wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:
As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

I was told at Valley Parade by someone who should know, that the number of season ticket holders/family/frien

ds getting tickets was jus over 27,000 leaving approx. 5000 for general sale.

And another point 5,000 were not on general sale as it clearly stated 2,500 were going on general sale. Don't forget to account the tickets that went to the staff/players of city

Plastic Bantam wrote:

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

Please explain to someone as naive as myself how a flexi card can be abused?

You go to the ticket office to buy a ticket using a flexi card, you then give your mate the same flexi card that then allows him to either go to the ticket office and use it to buy a ticket. Or use it at the turnstiles

Ok I see the problem now. Why not just make it pay on the day with a flexi so this can't happen. Also write number of flexi with all entries and any used twice log, then confiscate it next time used. The concept of a 50/50 is brilliant such a shame to lose it when a tweaking may close any loop holes

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

Please explain to someone as naive as myself how a flexi card can be abused?

You go to the ticket office to buy a ticket using a flexi card, you then give your mate the same flexi card that then allows him to either go to the ticket office and use it to buy a ticket. Or use it at the turnstiles

Ok I see the problem now. Why not just make it pay on the day with a flexi so this can't happen. Also write number of flexi with all entries and any used twice log, then confiscate it next time used. The concept of a 50/50 is brilliant such a shame to lose it when a tweaking may close any loop holes

Well fans were just passing it back when they flashed it at the turnstiles.. . I saw it first hand... to do it properly they need to invest in some sort of scanning device. which once scans doesn't allow it to be rescanned for 24 hours or something... maybe something to think of if we get promoted and have some more money to spend on things like that

If its £20 in on Wednesday City wont get 10,000. There will be no away fans, it's pay day on Thursday for most people who are paid monthly and anyone who paid into the Quarter,Semi and Final are probably skint. It cost at least £100 per person to go to Wembley and unlike Mr Lawn, these people are not multi millionaires. I doubt many flexi card holders will venture out on a freezing night to watch Dagenham.
Rather than ask people to pay £20 to reward the players why not charge £1 to reward the fans.

tyker2 wrote:
why not offer a fiver a head for the game and get some of those none season ticket people to come . After all they have had an expensive week end and laying out another £20 or so will be difficult to find.

Wembley should be ashamed of themselves charging £5.50 for a pint. Disgusing

Thats not a bad idea but what about my £20 that i have paid allready for the DR game and by the way i purchased this before the wembley game what should happen out of the home games left all who dont have a season ticket but keep all the stubs should be given priority with the season ticket holders for the play off final at Wembley.

BCFC1234 wrote:
If its £20 in on Wednesday City wont get 10,000. There will be no away fans, it's pay day on Thursday for most people who are paid monthly and anyone who paid into the Quarter,Semi and Final are probably skint. It cost at least £100 per person to go to Wembley and unlike Mr Lawn, these people are not multi millionaires. I doubt many flexi card holders will venture out on a freezing night to watch Dagenham.
Rather than ask people to pay £20 to reward the players why not charge £1 to reward the fans.

The reward should be when City get to wembley again thats when you will find out if ML supports the supporters maybe free transport to wembley or Half Price Wembley tickets in the play off final not sure what price city are with WH but if you can get 5/1 and over its a worth the bet should be odds on because they will be in the play off final 2013

Plastic Bantam wrote:

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

Please explain to someone as naive as myself how a flexi card can be abused?

You go to the ticket office to buy a ticket using a flexi card, you then give your mate the same flexi card that then allows him to either go to the ticket office and use it to buy a ticket. Or use it at the turnstiles

Ok I see the problem now. Why not just make it pay on the day with a flexi so this can't happen. Also write number of flexi with all entries and any used twice log, then confiscate it next time used. The concept of a 50/50 is brilliant such a shame to lose it when a tweaking may close any loop holes

Well fans were just passing it back when they flashed it at the turnstiles.. . I saw it first hand... to do it properly they need to invest in some sort of scanning device. which once scans doesn't allow it to be rescanned for 24 hours or something... maybe something to think of if we get promoted and have some more money to spend on things like that

You could just as easy pass a season ticket back though. Unless the number is always wrote down and checked. All that needs to be is the number recorded and anyone found using it twice having it then ripped up

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

macca1969 wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

Please explain to someone as naive as myself how a flexi card can be abused?

You go to the ticket office to buy a ticket using a flexi card, you then give your mate the same flexi card that then allows him to either go to the ticket office and use it to buy a ticket. Or use it at the turnstiles

Ok I see the problem now. Why not just make it pay on the day with a flexi so this can't happen. Also write number of flexi with all entries and any used twice log, then confiscate it next time used. The concept of a 50/50 is brilliant such a shame to lose it when a tweaking may close any loop holes

Well fans were just passing it back when they flashed it at the turnstiles.. . I saw it first hand... to do it properly they need to invest in some sort of scanning device. which once scans doesn't allow it to be rescanned for 24 hours or something... maybe something to think of if we get promoted and have some more money to spend on things like that

You could just as easy pass a season ticket back though. Unless the number is always wrote down and checked. All that needs to be is the number recorded and anyone found using it twice having it then ripped up

You could and people probably do. As we both agree the idea is good, they just need to work on it

mr baldwin needs to be quicker in thought in finding his way to obvious strategies ....

Wed should have always been planned at a discount ... its a no brainer to engage with the potential 20000 plastics (including me) ..

City still seem a bit slow in these areas ...just like 3 per ST ...when they could have done 2 per ST and stated that 13/14 purchased ST's qualified for 1 week before general sale ..

of course i know we dont have the best marketeers , business admin office or players on cities tight budgets .,.but discounting wednesday and calling it the 'bring a flag game' was hardly rocket science !!

make it a £1 kids and £5 adult cash on the night game ....nobody is in the upper tier of the coop stand normally ...

bring a flag to the home coming celebration ..

anybody having purchased d/r tickets should then be able to get another home game free on production of the ticket ..

a fair system and still time to advertise the discounted game tomorrow in the t&a ...

ive got my fiver ready and 3 kids with flags !!

City need to press the button ... to get 4 of us there ..... otherwise it will just be 1 ..(as £12 for juniors is way too high for kids in any case)

and then the next generation is losing interest ...

these opportunities are very rare ...

cmon city ....sort it out ...

£20 for 4th division football is bonkers.

£10 would be nearer the mark for a Saturday afternoon. £8 for a very cold midweek night.

shaun from richmond wrote:

Cityman23 wrote:

COLATS wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

I was told at Valley Parade by someone who should know, that the number of season ticket holders/family/frien ds getting tickets was jus over 27,000 leaving approx. 5000 for general sale.

1,479 went on sale to the GENERAL PUBLIC.........FACT!

!

thought City had less than 10,000 season ticket/flexicard holders I don't understand how so few were available to the public particularly as City got some extra tickets after the 'initial' allocation. Where did they go?

Well McHugh took 111 for his friends and family ha ha ha

Cityman23 wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

Cityman23 wrote:

COLATS wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

13 people in our wembley party, only3 going tomoz.

I was told at Valley Parade by someone who should know, that the number of season ticket holders/family/frien ds getting tickets was jus over 27,000 leaving approx. 5000 for general sale.

1,479 went on sale to the GENERAL PUBLIC.........FACT!


!

thought City had less than 10,000 season ticket/flexicard holders I don't understand how so few were available to the public particularly as City got some extra tickets after the 'initial' allocation. Where did they go?

Just seen the comment about staff, players, etc Yes and players' agents, players' wives, girlfriends, 'mistresses', drinking buddies, numerous 'friends' golfing partners, bookies' employees, neighbours, favourite off-licence staff, holiday hotel staff etc etc etc ????!!!!

Yes, I think I can see how it might just be...about 1500....now!!

I was a season ticket holder until this season due to being busy with work. I will be re-newing for next season.

I won't be there tomorrow but i have purchased 6 tickets away for the York City game on Saturday.

Just read some of the post in regards of being unable to take any drinks in at Wembley. I walked in with a big Morrisons carrier bag full of drinks in plastic bottles, crisps sweets etc..... as there were 6 of us there.

They never even looked in the bag and i had no idea it had been such an issue.

Sorry for all of you who had the hassle. I had a feeling it would be expensive to purchase in the stadium so i went to morrisons.

I had no idea we were not allowed any drinks etc.. of our own. i guess i was lucky.

Having said that i purchased fish and chips. They were terrible and the fish if you can call it that was....rank. nearly £8 for that.....

NEVER buy fish and chips in the south if you're a Northerner. They don't cook them in dripping for starters.

You must have got lucky with the drinks - they checked my dads bag specifically for them but I'd warned him to leave them on the coach.

Celebrate a thumping?
and a gutless display?

Plastic Bantam wrote:

pudseykid wrote:

Plastic Bantam wrote: As I've said numerous times about 30,000 tickets went to season ticket and flexi card holders, therefore you need to be telling the people you got tickets for to come down with you as only about 1,500 tickets went to people without a season ticket or flexi card connection

I took my wife (and we live in Somerset) to wembley for her BIRTHDAY present (very romantic!!) and a friend who was born in Bradford and listens to every game thanks to something called DAB radio, which i sadly dont have..a flexi card is £50 per season and U pay £10 to get in for each game..What a great deal..thats affordable..Each home game costs me £40 in fuel, plus food, beds dont cost anything as we have family in the Yorkshire..but its a sacrifice in a recession when WE both work part time 230 miles away from the Club..See U in Exeter? and yes we do have spare beds!!

The flexi cards are a great idea. It's just a shame they won't be doing them next year as people have abused the system!! However the majority of season ticket holder and flexi cards live within the Bradford area and game their 2 tickets to non ST or FC holders (Which I have NO issue with) However it appears (on this site anyway) that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!! Well they need to be getting them down to the games on a regular basis!!!!

'it appears that most of the ST or FC holders are calling their own friends and family who don't have ST or FC plastics!!!'

The thing is, a lot of those 'plastics' support other clubs and have no interest in going to VP whatsoever. I haven't got a problem with 'day trippers' and happy clappers that claimed to be City fans, no matter how tenuous the link might be. My problem is with the club and ST holders that made it possible for thousands of non-City fans to attend our big day.

I'm just one fan out of 10,000 ST holders and the amount of people that I actually saw and others that I know were at Wembley and support other teams runs into double figures. Times that by 500+ (conservative estimate) and it means a huge chunk of our 'support' at Wembley had no affiliation or love for the club whatsoever.

Anyone disagreeing can dress up the figures and argue the toss as much as they want. The fact is for every day tripper that might have been converted there's a hundred more that will be in the pub this weekend taking the mick out of our failure while extolling the virtues of Leeds, Man U, Liverpool and God knows who else. A sickening scenario that imho, shouldn't have been allowed to happen.

allannicho wrote:
Celebrate a thumping?
and a gutless display?

The performance was disappointing to say the least but I am not sure what more we could have done. The gulf in class was too extreme and Laudrup had done his homework on us. This was the team that had taken apart Chelsea (who in turn had done the business at Beeston) and I am sure that Swansea will inflict emphatic defeats on others with greater reputation than the Bantams.

Mark Lawn said if we had won in the cup final he wouldn't have let us play in Europe.

Also, some of us who were season ticket holders but are not anymore because we have moved away couldn't get tickets for Wembley because Lawn allowed current season ticket holders to take 2 glory hunters with them.
The result being that when I come back some weekends, I will give going to watch bradford city a miss.

All this rubbish about "plastic" supporters. I attended City matches in the dark days of the 60s,70s into the 80s. Stood out on the cold terraces of the old VP - seeking reelection and the occasional promotion. Hooliganism stopped me going. But I still follow them and it was great to see them get to Wembley and a friend got me a ticket. Was I not entitled to be there? If Mark Lawn is really serious about getting larger crowds he may like to review his pricing policy for seniors. £20 + £2 online fee is very expensive. Also perhaps a discount on production of a Wembley ticket could have been considered for tonight.

whisky1 wrote:
Congratulations Mark on your excellent PR job on local and National Media. Heartfelt and genuine. Realsitically a couple of thousand on the gate might be possible but its going to take a lot more to get the "daytrippers" out on a cold Wed night! Just a note on the speculation about foreign investment following our increase in profile ..please safeguard the clubs soul and identity..keep the club grounded sustainable and ideally locally owned despite the temptation to bale!.

In agreement with U, whisky1, we certainly DO NOT WANT foreign 'investers' ripping the "soul" out of City

mjkyorkshire wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

mjkyorkshire wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money.
I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though.
I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it.
People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future.
A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

Not at VP it isn't.

You pay for your £200 ticket which gets you and the under 11s in for 23 matches.


Anyway, this will become circular again and there really is no right or wrong but if you have one pint a week or smoke then you cannot say you cannot afford to watch City at VP as over a year the £200 season ticket works out much cheaper

Unfortunately my under 11s are 20 months and five years old, not an ideal age for a cold afternoon at the footy.
It's not a question of paying for them to go to VP, it's a question of having that spare money for me to go to VP.

Misunderstood, thought you meant the cost of attending with kids, my bad. I appreciate your point.

City's pricing is perfect. If you can commit to going every week you see the best priced pro football in the country (the price is the best not the football)

If you cannot you are paying what just about every other 3rd and 4th division fan is. Don't see a problem there, D&R away was £24

I am ignoring the 50/50 here as I think it will be scrapped but think it should be tweaked and tightened so no abuse can occur.

thelastmanstanding wrote:
Mark Lawn said if we had won in the cup final he wouldn't have let us play in Europe.

Also, some of us who were season ticket holders but are not anymore because we have moved away couldn't get tickets for Wembley because Lawn allowed current season ticket holders to take 2 glory hunters with them.
The result being that when I come back some weekends, I will give going to watch bradford city a miss.

So looks like Mark Lawn made the correct decision then "The result being that when I come back some weekends, I will give going to watch bradford city a miss"
TOYS OUT OF THE PRAM me thinks
:-))

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

mjkyorkshire wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

mjkyorkshire wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us with young families following your team is an expensive business, both in terms of time and money.
I've been a City supporter since I was seven, first game was against Notts Forest at Odsal (also 0-5), but I didn't renew my season ticket last season as my wife was on maternity leave, I'm already signed up for 2013/14 though.
I'd love to be at VP tomorrow night, but another £20 on top of £100+ for Wembley is pushing it.
People need to be very careful about branding supporters as "plastic" when they pick and choose games, if they have limited expendable income, they're bound to pick Arsenal over Fleetwood any day of the week. But these are people that boost the coffers by a few quid, and may come more often in the future.
A £10 voucher in the T&A wouldn't go amiss for tomorrow night.

Not at VP it isn't.

You pay for your £200 ticket which gets you and the under 11s in for 23 matches.


Anyway, this will become circular again and there really is no right or wrong but if you have one pint a week or smoke then you cannot say you cannot afford to watch City at VP as over a year the £200 season ticket works out much cheaper

Unfortunately my under 11s are 20 months and five years old, not an ideal age for a cold afternoon at the footy.
It's not a question of paying for them to go to VP, it's a question of having that spare money for me to go to VP.

Misunderstood, thought you meant the cost of attending with kids, my bad. I appreciate your point.

Not a problem - don't see two very pink girls wanting to head down to VP anytime soon, unless they change the away kit again.