Bradford City poised to challenge FIFA ruling over Mark Stewart

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Mark Stewart, who failed to score in 15 appearances in England last season, could cost Bradford City 250,000 euros in compensation to Falkirk Mark Stewart, who failed to score in 15 appearances in England last season, could cost Bradford City 250,000 euros in compensation to Falkirk

City are expected to appeal after being hit with a shock £215,000 compensation bill from FIFA for Mark Stewart.

They have ten days to decide whether to fight the decision, which was announced today. Otherwise they must pay Stewart’s former side Falkirk 250,000 Euros within a month.

Director of operations David Baldwin said: “We’ve received confirmation of the ruling. We are now in discussions with our lawyers before deciding what position we will take.”

City have constantly maintained that they did not owe the Scottish club anything for the striker, who signed on a free transfer but failed to score in 15 appearances in England last season.

But Falkirk claimed they were owed investment costs after bringing Stewart up through their academy and took the case to football’s governing body 11 months ago.

The dispute centred on when the different seasons end in the two countries. City claimed that as Stewart had just turned 23 when he joined them in the summer of 2011, they were no longer eligible to pay for his development.

Stewart was signed by Peter Jackson on the recommendation of the club’s former head of development Archie Christie. But his only goal was in a penalty shoot-out at Huddersfield.

He broke his foot early on and never managed to secure a regular spot once Phil Parkinson took over.

Stewart returned to Scotland on loan with Hamilton before joining Dundee this season.

Falkirk chairman Martin Ritchie said: “We’ve always believe we had a strong case but it’s taken a lot of hard work from people in and around the club to get this result.

“And of course financially it’s a tremendous boost.”

Should City be forced to cough up, the loss will be minimised by the money raised from reaching the Capital One Cup final.

They are also receiving regular add-ons from Premier League clubs for the development of former home-grown youngsters such as Andre Wisdom and George Green.

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7:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13

doneBD4 says...

I think, had we not had this cup run we wouldn't have to pay so much.
I think, had we not had this cup run we wouldn't have to pay so much. doneBD4
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7:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13

DingDangDoo!!! says...

Sums up Jacko's ability!
I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point!
Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees......... DingDangDoo!!!
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7:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stevie-C says...

Stinking bloody vultures!!!
Stinking bloody vultures!!! Stevie-C
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7:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Pablo says...

DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability!
I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point!
Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
And why is the red tape attached to a transfer, the former manager's responsibility?

Managers identify the players they want. Legal issues associated with the signing are dealt with by other professionals.
[quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]And why is the red tape attached to a transfer, the former manager's responsibility? Managers identify the players they want. Legal issues associated with the signing are dealt with by other professionals. Pablo
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8:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Rambo says...

When you look at Hanson costing £7.5k, yes it wasn't set by FIFA but hes scored 44 in the time hes been here including goals against numerous teams in L1, the Championship and Aston Villa.

How the F do they work out Stewart is taking into anywhere near that much, even with consideration for Falkirk developing him?
When you look at Hanson costing £7.5k, yes it wasn't set by FIFA but hes scored 44 in the time hes been here including goals against numerous teams in L1, the Championship and Aston Villa. How the F do they work out Stewart is taking into anywhere near that much, even with consideration for Falkirk developing him? Rambo
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8:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13

DingDangDoo!!! says...

Pablo wrote:
DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability!
I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point!
Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
And why is the red tape attached to a transfer, the former manager's responsibility?

Managers identify the players they want. Legal issues associated with the signing are dealt with by other professionals.
Exactly! Manager identifies the signings......
Clown identifies muppet as next big thing, muppet is biggest flop in clubs history, clown & muppet are sent packing and BCFC are left to pick up the bill!
If the clown had not identified the muppet, we would not even be in this mess!!
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]And why is the red tape attached to a transfer, the former manager's responsibility? Managers identify the players they want. Legal issues associated with the signing are dealt with by other professionals.[/p][/quote]Exactly! Manager identifies the signings...... Clown identifies muppet as next big thing, muppet is biggest flop in clubs history, clown & muppet are sent packing and BCFC are left to pick up the bill! If the clown had not identified the muppet, we would not even be in this mess!! DingDangDoo!!!
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8:20pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Rambo says...

Wasn't Archie involved?
Wasn't Archie involved? Rambo
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8:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13

KnightMcCall says...

Since when did any Scottish player attract such a high value. Did Falkirk tell FIFA that we had nicked Gary Hooper from them?

If Stewart is worth £250k then Wells is Worth £100m.
Since when did any Scottish player attract such a high value. Did Falkirk tell FIFA that we had nicked Gary Hooper from them? If Stewart is worth £250k then Wells is Worth £100m. KnightMcCall
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9:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13

silverbantam says...

DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability!
I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point!
Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
You will find that Stewart was an Archie Christie signing !
[quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]You will find that Stewart was an Archie Christie signing ! silverbantam
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9:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13

silverbantam says...

Let's not blame FIFA, Falkirk or Mark Stewart. City have made a mistake in not getting correct legal advice before signing a player !

I bet after careful consideration the club decide not to appeal the decision.
Let's not blame FIFA, Falkirk or Mark Stewart. City have made a mistake in not getting correct legal advice before signing a player ! I bet after careful consideration the club decide not to appeal the decision. silverbantam
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9:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13

macca1969 says...

silverbantam wrote:
DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability!
I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point!
Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
You will find that Stewart was an Archie Christie signing !
Dingdang Muppet he were a Christie signing you pleb
[quote][p][bold]silverbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]You will find that Stewart was an Archie Christie signing ![/p][/quote]Dingdang Muppet he were a Christie signing you pleb macca1969
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11:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13

The Hump says...

DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
Dingbat would be more appropriate, get off Jacko’s back. christie "DONE IT"
[quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]Dingbat would be more appropriate, get off Jacko’s back. christie "DONE IT" The Hump
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11:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13

DingDangDoo!!! says...

Cannot ever remember Archie Christie being manager of BCFC!
Jacko was a clown and what is happening down at VP now just goes to prove what a bad manager he was. The reason I stopped posting on here was due to all the Jacko lovers who were totally clueless and could not see his inability to manage a football team. Well, it looks like half of you are still on here thinking that Jacko should not be blamed for anything.......
Cannot ever remember Archie Christie being manager of BCFC! Jacko was a clown and what is happening down at VP now just goes to prove what a bad manager he was. The reason I stopped posting on here was due to all the Jacko lovers who were totally clueless and could not see his inability to manage a football team. Well, it looks like half of you are still on here thinking that Jacko should not be blamed for anything....... DingDangDoo!!!
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12:23am Fri 8 Feb 13

macca1969 says...

We all know Christie made the signings as ultimately this led to jacko quitting. The chairmen even confirmed Archie was in charge of recruitment but yoyo just think what you want ding dang plank
We all know Christie made the signings as ultimately this led to jacko quitting. The chairmen even confirmed Archie was in charge of recruitment but yoyo just think what you want ding dang plank macca1969
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1:35am Fri 8 Feb 13

Bradford1903 says...

Just shows what a completely incompetent organisation FIFA are, to come up with this ridiculous and grossly inflated figure; I hope to god we are appealing. When I saw the headline I was expecting a figure of about 30k.

If Stewart had been under contract, Falkirk would've accepted a fee that was only a fraction of that; I bet they can't believe their luck, and our absolutely wetting themselves. So you are telling me that it is now cheaper to sign a player that is under contract, rather than one who's has expired; absolutely crazy.

If it had happened to a club like Wimbledon, tell me how they would've managed to pay the amount in 30 days; it would absolutely bankrupt them. It just shows how out of touch with the modern game they are.

Just how did we get bureaucrats like this running our game, or should I say ruining our game.
Just shows what a completely incompetent organisation FIFA are, to come up with this ridiculous and grossly inflated figure; I hope to god we are appealing. When I saw the headline I was expecting a figure of about 30k. If Stewart had been under contract, Falkirk would've accepted a fee that was only a fraction of that; I bet they can't believe their luck, and our absolutely wetting themselves. So you are telling me that it is now cheaper to sign a player that is under contract, rather than one who's has expired; absolutely crazy. If it had happened to a club like Wimbledon, tell me how they would've managed to pay the amount in 30 days; it would absolutely bankrupt them. It just shows how out of touch with the modern game they are. Just how did we get bureaucrats like this running our game, or should I say ruining our game. Bradford1903
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8:26am Fri 8 Feb 13

bmt1980 says...

Are they going to give us a breakdown of how a Scottish club, who have never had much money, managed to spend £215,000 training up a useless waste of space??

If they spend the same amount training up every player, why are they not one of the main contenders in Scotland?

If this is correct, then their youth team (which would probably be around 15-16 players) costs around £3.22m-£3.44m to run!! I cannot believe that in a million years!

If we managed to offer 2 of their first team players higher contracts than they could when we were skint with a seasons budget of around £1m, then there finances need investigating by FIFA!!! How can they justify this!?!?

SCAMOLA!!!

We've got to fight this all the way!!
Are they going to give us a breakdown of how a Scottish club, who have never had much money, managed to spend £215,000 training up a useless waste of space?? If they spend the same amount training up every player, why are they not one of the main contenders in Scotland? If this is correct, then their youth team (which would probably be around 15-16 players) costs around £3.22m-£3.44m to run!! I cannot believe that in a million years! If we managed to offer 2 of their first team players higher contracts than they could when we were skint with a seasons budget of around £1m, then there finances need investigating by FIFA!!! How can they justify this!?!? SCAMOLA!!! We've got to fight this all the way!! bmt1980
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8:34am Fri 8 Feb 13

_Size3_ says...

£215,000???

Where the hell do they get that figure from? Those sums of money just don't normally exist in this division!

FIFA have taken a look at us, seen we've made a bit of brass this year and taken the absolute proverbial because of it.

Had we had no money at all, this figure wouldn't have been this high.
£215,000??? Where the hell do they get that figure from? Those sums of money just don't normally exist in this division! FIFA have taken a look at us, seen we've made a bit of brass this year and taken the absolute proverbial because of it. Had we had no money at all, this figure wouldn't have been this high. _Size3_
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8:38am Fri 8 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability!
I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point!
Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
not considered Christie in this:maybe the unstated reason he was shifted so quickly!! Truly shocking but where is the players now? Develpoment costs? no real evidence of this at all
[quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]not considered Christie in this:maybe the unstated reason he was shifted so quickly!! Truly shocking but where is the players now? Develpoment costs? no real evidence of this at all tyker2
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8:45am Fri 8 Feb 13

Michael Clayton says...

I remember something that was highly debatable at the time of Stewart's departure. Having returned to Scotland, did he not make some claim about have scored X number of goals for City? (When the records show that he did not score once).

If this is the case, might it also have implications as far as any settlement is concerned? I think this could prove hugely relevant to any settlement fee.
I remember something that was highly debatable at the time of Stewart's departure. Having returned to Scotland, did he not make some claim about have scored X number of goals for City? (When the records show that he did not score once). If this is the case, might it also have implications as far as any settlement is concerned? I think this could prove hugely relevant to any settlement fee. Michael Clayton
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9:16am Fri 8 Feb 13

DisplacedNortherner says...

So on average Falkirk spent £15,000 on Stewart per year. They take on say on average 15 footballers a year into their centre of excellence, and have around 6 age groups. So Falkirk spend £1,350,000 a year on their centre of excellence, and that's dismissing any reserve and youth teams.
So on average Falkirk spent £15,000 on Stewart per year. They take on say on average 15 footballers a year into their centre of excellence, and have around 6 age groups. So Falkirk spend £1,350,000 a year on their centre of excellence, and that's dismissing any reserve and youth teams. DisplacedNortherner
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9:27am Fri 8 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

_Size3_ wrote:
£215,000???

Where the hell do they get that figure from? Those sums of money just don't normally exist in this division!

FIFA have taken a look at us, seen we've made a bit of brass this year and taken the absolute proverbial because of it.

Had we had no money at all, this figure wouldn't have been this high.
nor in Scottish second division football:the value is totally unrealistic and should be challenged
[quote][p][bold]_Size3_[/bold] wrote: £215,000??? Where the hell do they get that figure from? Those sums of money just don't normally exist in this division! FIFA have taken a look at us, seen we've made a bit of brass this year and taken the absolute proverbial because of it. Had we had no money at all, this figure wouldn't have been this high.[/p][/quote]nor in Scottish second division football:the value is totally unrealistic and should be challenged tyker2
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9:46am Fri 8 Feb 13

Scargutt2 says...

I'd have thought about 10% of that figure was still a bit of an exaggeration.

This smacks of FIFA recognising that City for the first time in 12 years would actually be able to pay that amount. They should focus on match fixing and racism instead.
I'd have thought about 10% of that figure was still a bit of an exaggeration. This smacks of FIFA recognising that City for the first time in 12 years would actually be able to pay that amount. They should focus on match fixing and racism instead. Scargutt2
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11:03am Fri 8 Feb 13

Rich73 says...

seems like they have come up with a realistic figure & multiplied it by 10, good job he was not successful, on the basis they've come us with this ridicolous figure probably would have wanted a million off us
seems like they have come up with a realistic figure & multiplied it by 10, good job he was not successful, on the basis they've come us with this ridicolous figure probably would have wanted a million off us Rich73
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11:13am Fri 8 Feb 13

Michael Clayton says...

www.dailyrecord.co.u
k/.../dundee-new-boy
-mark-stewart-121360
2

Some sort of claim about "scoring goals"?

I think the club might be interested in reading this
www.dailyrecord.co.u k/.../dundee-new-boy -mark-stewart-121360 2 Some sort of claim about "scoring goals"? I think the club might be interested in reading this Michael Clayton
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11:26am Fri 8 Feb 13

wembley bound says...

A joke decision and will hit the cup run coffers badly
A joke decision and will hit the cup run coffers badly wembley bound
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12:07pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Rambo says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
www.dailyrecord.co.u

k/.../dundee-new-boy

-mark-stewart-121360

2

Some sort of claim about "scoring goals"?

I think the club might be interested in reading this
“When I was down at Bradford everything was good until I lost my place in the team literally when the new manager, Phil Parker, came in during pre-season and that was that.

“So it was all going well and I was scoring goals until everything took a turn for the worse.
--------

I can smell the BS 300 miles away.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: www.dailyrecord.co.u k/.../dundee-new-boy -mark-stewart-121360 2 Some sort of claim about "scoring goals"? I think the club might be interested in reading this[/p][/quote]“When I was down at Bradford everything was good until I lost my place in the team literally when the new manager, Phil Parker, came in during pre-season and that was that. “So it was all going well and I was scoring goals until everything took a turn for the worse. -------- I can smell the BS 300 miles away. Rambo
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12:19pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Michael Clayton says...

Rambo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote: www.dailyrecord.co.u k/.../dundee-new-boy -mark-stewart-121360 2 Some sort of claim about "scoring goals"? I think the club might be interested in reading this
“When I was down at Bradford everything was good until I lost my place in the team literally when the new manager, Phil Parker, came in during pre-season and that was that. “So it was all going well and I was scoring goals until everything took a turn for the worse. -------- I can smell the BS 300 miles away.
Unfortunately, IT / communication issues prevent me from contacting Valley Parade but I think someone at the club needs to know about this.

If this is what he was telling the media then what, exactly, has been told to FIFA?

We are not talking small change here. Could someone kindly pass this on to the club?
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: www.dailyrecord.co.u k/.../dundee-new-boy -mark-stewart-121360 2 Some sort of claim about "scoring goals"? I think the club might be interested in reading this[/p][/quote]“When I was down at Bradford everything was good until I lost my place in the team literally when the new manager, Phil Parker, came in during pre-season and that was that. “So it was all going well and I was scoring goals until everything took a turn for the worse. -------- I can smell the BS 300 miles away.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, IT / communication issues prevent me from contacting Valley Parade but I think someone at the club needs to know about this. If this is what he was telling the media then what, exactly, has been told to FIFA? We are not talking small change here. Could someone kindly pass this on to the club? Michael Clayton
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12:57pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Village Bantam says...

What complete and utter tosh.

Forget which manager or accomplice signed him or the lack of homework done before acquiring his signature, this is a 4th Tier team that has signed a player from a Scottish minnow on a free transfer.

FIFA have had plenty of time to evaluate the player since he left the club a year ago and he has hardly gone on to great things.

It's not as if we made a fortune on the back of snaring him from Falkirk, he was a flop and has since continued to be so after being released early from his two year contract.

When FIFA then evaluate him based on that and the fact that 4th Division teams barely have a penny to spare and are constantly struggling to survive - how the hell did these bafoons with their Financial Fair Play proposals hanging out of their pockets - decide that an amateur footballer was worth a quarter of a million pounds?

Some geek please help me figure out, the average cost of a 4th Division player over the past 5 years. In fact, £250k is possibly what Tom Cleverley cost Man Utd from us - nobody seeing a difference?

It should be kick 'FIFA' out of football, those corrupt, good for nothing bureaucrats as they are spoiling our game.

No doubt, the person or persons that decided this outcome is/are receiving a cut for this decision which was undoubtedly because of our cup run.

We should fight this all the way and sue FIFA too for discrimination. I wonder how much they would have ordered Portsmouth of Barnet, had they signed him - you can't base decisions on status, wealth or anything that separates one team from the next - There's no way the guy was worth, or even cost Falkirk anything near £250k - do you think they spend £5m bringing 20 players through their youth team? If they do, they'll be competing with the likes of Barcelona in the near future (though not with players of Mark Stewart calibre) - so why are we being handed such a large bill.

If I were on the City board, I'd be hiring private detectives now to follow, tap and rummage through every piece of junk the a-hole (who made this decision) leaves because there's something amiss and it wouldn't take too long to find him out.

That way, we'd be doing our bit to clean up that filthy organisation and we'd have the proof needed to sue them (and him) while we're at it.

Swines.
What complete and utter tosh. Forget which manager or accomplice signed him or the lack of homework done before acquiring his signature, this is a 4th Tier team that has signed a player from a Scottish minnow on a free transfer. FIFA have had plenty of time to evaluate the player since he left the club a year ago and he has hardly gone on to great things. It's not as if we made a fortune on the back of snaring him from Falkirk, he was a flop and has since continued to be so after being released early from his two year contract. When FIFA then evaluate him based on that and the fact that 4th Division teams barely have a penny to spare and are constantly struggling to survive - how the hell did these bafoons with their Financial Fair Play proposals hanging out of their pockets - decide that an amateur footballer was worth a quarter of a million pounds? Some geek please help me figure out, the average cost of a 4th Division player over the past 5 years. In fact, £250k is possibly what Tom Cleverley cost Man Utd from us - nobody seeing a difference? It should be kick 'FIFA' out of football, those corrupt, good for nothing bureaucrats as they are spoiling our game. No doubt, the person or persons that decided this outcome is/are receiving a cut for this decision which was undoubtedly because of our cup run. We should fight this all the way and sue FIFA too for discrimination. I wonder how much they would have ordered Portsmouth of Barnet, had they signed him - you can't base decisions on status, wealth or anything that separates one team from the next - There's no way the guy was worth, or even cost Falkirk anything near £250k - do you think they spend £5m bringing 20 players through their youth team? If they do, they'll be competing with the likes of Barcelona in the near future (though not with players of Mark Stewart calibre) - so why are we being handed such a large bill. If I were on the City board, I'd be hiring private detectives now to follow, tap and rummage through every piece of junk the a-hole (who made this decision) leaves because there's something amiss and it wouldn't take too long to find him out. That way, we'd be doing our bit to clean up that filthy organisation and we'd have the proof needed to sue them (and him) while we're at it. Swines. Village Bantam
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12:58pm Fri 8 Feb 13

BCFC1234 says...

I'm sure if it was the other way round all City fans wold be rubbing their hands. Be thankfull for the cup run otherwise we would now be seeing Falkirk issuing a winding up order against City !
I'm sure if it was the other way round all City fans wold be rubbing their hands. Be thankfull for the cup run otherwise we would now be seeing Falkirk issuing a winding up order against City ! BCFC1234
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1:00pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

The ins and outs of this are known 'facts' to FIFA, BCAFC and Falkirk. Nothing the player 'claims' will be used in the decision making policy.

Our only way out of this is to challenge the date of the end/start of season in Scotland versus that in England as this was what we based our £0 price tag on, he was 23 and unattached.

If that fails then challenge the actual price tag applied by FIFA for a player plying his trade in a pub league and not even making the grade there, one season of scoring does not make him worth £215k in anyone's eyes.

The same could possibly be said about Nahki but I think we can all see the difference.
The ins and outs of this are known 'facts' to FIFA, BCAFC and Falkirk. Nothing the player 'claims' will be used in the decision making policy. Our only way out of this is to challenge the date of the end/start of season in Scotland versus that in England as this was what we based our £0 price tag on, he was 23 and unattached. If that fails then challenge the actual price tag applied by FIFA for a player plying his trade in a pub league and not even making the grade there, one season of scoring does not make him worth £215k in anyone's eyes. The same could possibly be said about Nahki but I think we can all see the difference. Prisoner Cell Block A
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3:11pm Fri 8 Feb 13

macca1969 says...

The Hump wrote:
DingDangDoo!!! wrote:
Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........
Dingbat would be more appropriate, get off Jacko’s back. christie "DONE IT"
On your basis this is all jacko's fault then remember he signed Nahki Wells and he is going to be substantially worth more money. So in fact we will make money out if jacko's signings. ;)
[quote][p][bold]The Hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DingDangDoo!!![/bold] wrote: Sums up Jacko's ability! I always said he was a clown before, during and after his spell as manager. This and what PP has done with the team since just confirms that point! Jackson should be made to pay the £215K out of his circus fees.........[/p][/quote]Dingbat would be more appropriate, get off Jacko’s back. christie "DONE IT"[/p][/quote]On your basis this is all jacko's fault then remember he signed Nahki Wells and he is going to be substantially worth more money. So in fact we will make money out if jacko's signings. ;) macca1969
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4:36pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Hahaha, well noted macca
Hahaha, well noted macca Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:37pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Edinburgh -bantam says...

Unfortunately FIFA must have looked at the fact that Stewart was the Scottish League 1 top scorer in the season before signing for City,unaware of the standard of football.

We were all convinced when Archie and Jacko told us what a great signing he was, although some had misgivings about his injury record.

If only FIFA would look at his current form - I think he has 5 SPL starts this season and has been substituted in most of those matches.

Dundee fans are suggesting they should put him up for sale as surely someone would offer £100K!
Unfortunately FIFA must have looked at the fact that Stewart was the Scottish League 1 top scorer in the season before signing for City,unaware of the standard of football. We were all convinced when Archie and Jacko told us what a great signing he was, although some had misgivings about his injury record. If only FIFA would look at his current form - I think he has 5 SPL starts this season and has been substituted in most of those matches. Dundee fans are suggesting they should put him up for sale as surely someone would offer £100K! Edinburgh -bantam
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5:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13

GABRIEL.NORDE says...

Rambo wrote:
When you look at Hanson costing £7.5k, yes it wasn't set by FIFA but hes scored 44 in the time hes been here including goals against numerous teams in L1, the Championship and Aston Villa.

How the F do they work out Stewart is taking into anywhere near that much, even with consideration for Falkirk developing him?
That's a bl***y good pint
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: When you look at Hanson costing £7.5k, yes it wasn't set by FIFA but hes scored 44 in the time hes been here including goals against numerous teams in L1, the Championship and Aston Villa. How the F do they work out Stewart is taking into anywhere near that much, even with consideration for Falkirk developing him?[/p][/quote]That's a bl***y good pint GABRIEL.NORDE
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7:39pm Fri 8 Feb 13

lawsonio123 says...

The Whole point is was he or was he not a free agent if not then City will have to pay.If not then appeal but the fact remains City must have evidence to back any appeal or they may well find the cost gets greater. FIFA do rate this player to highly GOODNESS ME £250.000 would buy falkirk outright.
The Whole point is was he or was he not a free agent if not then City will have to pay.If not then appeal but the fact remains City must have evidence to back any appeal or they may well find the cost gets greater. FIFA do rate this player to highly GOODNESS ME £250.000 would buy falkirk outright. lawsonio123
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7:57pm Fri 8 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

Ludicrous decision...funny how you can be as racist as you like in Europe..even do a bit of rioting ...get next to nothing as a fine yet little old Bradford City Football Club get lumbered with a ludcrous amount like this.....a total disgrace....FIFA....
joke....no doubt IF we do appeal and win...and then a miracle happens and we win the league cup...no doubt our Europa cup adventure will start against a team in Uzbekistan. What did Appollo Creed say in Rocky.....it's not how hard you hit...it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward....Let's hope BCFC do exactly that....F*ck em!!!!!

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Ludicrous decision...funny how you can be as racist as you like in Europe..even do a bit of rioting ...get next to nothing as a fine yet little old Bradford City Football Club get lumbered with a ludcrous amount like this.....a total disgrace....FIFA.... joke....no doubt IF we do appeal and win...and then a miracle happens and we win the league cup...no doubt our Europa cup adventure will start against a team in Uzbekistan. What did Appollo Creed say in Rocky.....it's not how hard you hit...it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward....Let's hope BCFC do exactly that....F*ck em!!!!! ** We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!! bcfc1903
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8:35pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Cityman23 says...

Whether the sum is fair or not can be debated. What seems fairly obvious now is that City called Falkirk's 'bluff' when refusing to give 'The Bairns' nothing for Stewart.

Now, City are being lumbered with a 'bigger' amount when, perhaps previously, Falkirk might have settled for a lesser amount, had City 'settled.'

To be honest, if it had been 'the other way around' and Falkirk had taken one of our better players for nothing, most supporters would be screaming 'UNFAIR!' on here!

In hindsight, Mark Stewart, never scored the goals expected, in his (admittedly small number of appearances) but when he arrived he HAD been the top goalscorer in Scottish Division One-so Falkirk certainly lost one of their 'key players. (and Falkirk can't be held responsible for one of their players NOT fitting in after being transferred out-it's always a gamble!)

Before appealing, City might like to find out if the sum could 'increase' should they (City) lose. £215, 000 is bd enough but more ...would be 'worse.'
Whether the sum is fair or not can be debated. What seems fairly obvious now is that City called Falkirk's 'bluff' when refusing to give 'The Bairns' nothing for Stewart. Now, City are being lumbered with a 'bigger' amount when, perhaps previously, Falkirk might have settled for a lesser amount, had City 'settled.' To be honest, if it had been 'the other way around' and Falkirk had taken one of our better players for nothing, most supporters would be screaming 'UNFAIR!' on here! In hindsight, Mark Stewart, never scored the goals expected, in his (admittedly small number of appearances) but when he arrived he HAD been the top goalscorer in Scottish Division One-so Falkirk certainly lost one of their 'key players. (and Falkirk can't be held responsible for one of their players NOT fitting in after being transferred out-it's always a gamble!) Before appealing, City might like to find out if the sum could 'increase' should they (City) lose. £215, 000 is bd enough but more ...would be 'worse.' Cityman23
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9:08pm Fri 8 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

I wouldn't be screaming unfair that's for sure. ... the problem being a technicality that obviously isn't straight forward...the amount of money is a pure monopoly total....it should be taken further..this sort of laughable tosh from FIFA makes their limp wristed stance on racism all the more disgusting.

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I wouldn't be screaming unfair that's for sure. ... the problem being a technicality that obviously isn't straight forward...the amount of money is a pure monopoly total....it should be taken further..this sort of laughable tosh from FIFA makes their limp wristed stance on racism all the more disgusting. ** We shout with pride...well never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!! bcfc1903
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2:49am Sat 9 Feb 13

TirNaNog says...

I see Falkirk fans are wetting themselves on their forums. Even they are saying how bad Stewart was. Ridiculous figure for a 4th tier team based solely on Citys League Cup Final appearance. Mind it shows how far Scottish football has fallen when yo-yo club Falkirk are having to do English 4th Division clubs for compo. Let 'em have it, after all in the 2011–12 Scottish First Division Falkirk attracted an average of 3,188 spectators at home games at the Falkirk Stadium, the second largest average attendance after Dundee. Hahaha! Scottish football is on it's uppers with one team propping up the whole system. There used to be 2 but the other one died!
I see Falkirk fans are wetting themselves on their forums. Even they are saying how bad Stewart was. Ridiculous figure for a 4th tier team based solely on Citys League Cup Final appearance. Mind it shows how far Scottish football has fallen when yo-yo club Falkirk are having to do English 4th Division clubs for compo. Let 'em have it, after all in the 2011–12 Scottish First Division Falkirk attracted an average of 3,188 spectators at home games at the Falkirk Stadium, the second largest average attendance after Dundee. Hahaha! Scottish football is on it's uppers with one team propping up the whole system. There used to be 2 but the other one died! TirNaNog
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4:06am Sat 9 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

FIFA: £20000 or less handedout the a country's FA for racism.

FIFA :£215000 for 1st division Scottish footballer going to a lower mid 4th division club.

RIDICULOUS all around: how much are Falkirk going to back hand into FIFA. lol.

Fear we may have to pay one way or another. Fight and incur heavy legal fees and still maybe lose or simply let it go and get rid of it out of the system. The charge will be written of against profits this season and will reduce any corporation tax which may arise this financial year, SO IT OT ALL BAD NEWS!!
FIFA: £20000 or less handedout the a country's FA for racism. FIFA :£215000 for 1st division Scottish footballer going to a lower mid 4th division club. RIDICULOUS all around: how much are Falkirk going to back hand into FIFA. lol. Fear we may have to pay one way or another. Fight and incur heavy legal fees and still maybe lose or simply let it go and get rid of it out of the system. The charge will be written of against profits this season and will reduce any corporation tax which may arise this financial year, SO IT OT ALL BAD NEWS!! tyker2
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7:42am Sat 9 Feb 13

macca1969 says...

Can't compare this sum with any racism charge. Totally separate issues, one is a supposed serious charge based on human rights and equality the other to stop small clubs being easy pickings for big clubs.
Agree the sums don't add up for him and I'm sure we will appeal, how much extra does an appeal cost and maybe this is what FIFA are 'banking' onto increase their coffers. As Tyker says if we can write it off against the tax this may be best we can hope for
Can't compare this sum with any racism charge. Totally separate issues, one is a supposed serious charge based on human rights and equality the other to stop small clubs being easy pickings for big clubs. Agree the sums don't add up for him and I'm sure we will appeal, how much extra does an appeal cost and maybe this is what FIFA are 'banking' onto increase their coffers. As Tyker says if we can write it off against the tax this may be best we can hope for macca1969
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7:45am Sat 9 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

agree they are separate issues but all of this just how lowly FIFA reacts to such isues.
agree they are separate issues but all of this just how lowly FIFA reacts to such isues. tyker2
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11:23am Sat 9 Feb 13

fledge3 says...

FIFA are a joke, run by a clown, sitting at the head of a federation that's members are corrupt, racist and immoral. I believed all this before seeing this ridiculous ruling. Yet someone else trying to cash in on Citys success. Falkirk should be ashamed. And I would love to know where his valuation in terms of 'training expenses' came from. From what I saw he wasn't even worth cleaning Big Jimmys boots and he cost us 7,500.
FIFA are a joke, run by a clown, sitting at the head of a federation that's members are corrupt, racist and immoral. I believed all this before seeing this ridiculous ruling. Yet someone else trying to cash in on Citys success. Falkirk should be ashamed. And I would love to know where his valuation in terms of 'training expenses' came from. From what I saw he wasn't even worth cleaning Big Jimmys boots and he cost us 7,500. fledge3
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11:39am Sat 9 Feb 13

Durko11 says...

Just wait for the unusual amount of suspensions we get between now and the final, 4th division teams are not supposed to win cup finals!!
Just wait for the unusual amount of suspensions we get between now and the final, 4th division teams are not supposed to win cup finals!! Durko11
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11:42am Sat 9 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

macca1969 wrote:
Can't compare this sum with any racism charge. Totally separate issues, one is a supposed serious charge based on human rights and equality the other to stop small clubs being easy pickings for big clubs.
Agree the sums don't add up for him and I'm sure we will appeal, how much extra does an appeal cost and maybe this is what FIFA are 'banking' onto increase their coffers. As Tyker says if we can write it off against the tax this may be best we can hope for
...I'm looking at the way FIFA handle both issues...one's a technicality that could be judged either way against a small English club or small Scottish club...the other is a total disgrace going on mainly in many mainland European countries with footballers being singled out because of their skin pigmentation...relig
ion or even sexual orientation, yet FIFA dishes out next to nothng in fines against some of the biggest clubs in Europe..go figure.....FIFA are an utter disgrace. This total of £212,000 really is a joke..and if possible should be fought by Bradford City Football Club tooth and nail. No way should we role over to such a ludicrous settlement.

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[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Can't compare this sum with any racism charge. Totally separate issues, one is a supposed serious charge based on human rights and equality the other to stop small clubs being easy pickings for big clubs. Agree the sums don't add up for him and I'm sure we will appeal, how much extra does an appeal cost and maybe this is what FIFA are 'banking' onto increase their coffers. As Tyker says if we can write it off against the tax this may be best we can hope for[/p][/quote]...I'm looking at the way FIFA handle both issues...one's a technicality that could be judged either way against a small English club or small Scottish club...the other is a total disgrace going on mainly in many mainland European countries with footballers being singled out because of their skin pigmentation...relig ion or even sexual orientation, yet FIFA dishes out next to nothng in fines against some of the biggest clubs in Europe..go figure.....FIFA are an utter disgrace. This total of £212,000 really is a joke..and if possible should be fought by Bradford City Football Club tooth and nail. No way should we role over to such a ludicrous settlement. ** We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!! bcfc1903
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11:46am Sat 9 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

That should be ROLL..
That should be ROLL.. bcfc1903
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2:26am Sun 10 Feb 13

Commonsensefirst says...

Shocking timing. They're like vultures as soon as someone mentions they've got a few quid. There is a certain 'Bosman' ruling in place for free agents. Enough said.
Shocking timing. They're like vultures as soon as someone mentions they've got a few quid. There is a certain 'Bosman' ruling in place for free agents. Enough said. Commonsensefirst
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2:59am Mon 11 Feb 13

alfucham says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Ludicrous decision...funny how you can be as racist as you like in Europe..even do a bit of rioting ...get next to nothing as a fine yet little old Bradford City Football Club get lumbered with a ludcrous amount like this.....a total disgrace....FIFA.... joke....no doubt IF we do appeal and win...and then a miracle happens and we win the league cup...no doubt our Europa cup adventure will start against a team in Uzbekistan. What did Appollo Creed say in Rocky.....it's not how hard you hit...it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward....Let's hope BCFC do exactly that....F*ck em!!!!! ** We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!
What about if Alfucham
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Ludicrous decision...funny how you can be as racist as you like in Europe..even do a bit of rioting ...get next to nothing as a fine yet little old Bradford City Football Club get lumbered with a ludcrous amount like this.....a total disgrace....FIFA.... joke....no doubt IF we do appeal and win...and then a miracle happens and we win the league cup...no doubt our Europa cup adventure will start against a team in Uzbekistan. What did Appollo Creed say in Rocky.....it's not how hard you hit...it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward....Let's hope BCFC do exactly that....F*ck em!!!!! ** We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!![/p][/quote]What about if Alfucham alfucham
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9:01pm Wed 13 Feb 13

silverbantam says...

Petherbridge Bassra (@PethBassSols)
13/02/2013 20:27
Are pleased to announce we have been instructed to advise #bcafc on appealing the FIFA decision and €250k fine with regard to Mark Stewart.
Petherbridge Bassra (@PethBassSols) 13/02/2013 20:27 Are pleased to announce we have been instructed to advise #bcafc on appealing the FIFA decision and €250k fine with regard to Mark Stewart. silverbantam
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3:29pm Thu 14 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Ludicrous decision...funny how you can be as racist as you like in Europe..even do a bit of rioting ...get next to nothing as a fine yet little old Bradford City Football Club get lumbered with a ludcrous amount like this.....a total disgrace....FIFA.... joke....no doubt IF we do appeal and win...and then a miracle happens and we win the league cup...no doubt our Europa cup adventure will start against a team in Uzbekistan. What did Appollo Creed say in Rocky.....it's not how hard you hit...it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward....Let's hope BCFC do exactly that....F*ck em!!!!! ** We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!
What about if Alfucham
Yeah, Go for it Alf......
[quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Ludicrous decision...funny how you can be as racist as you like in Europe..even do a bit of rioting ...get next to nothing as a fine yet little old Bradford City Football Club get lumbered with a ludcrous amount like this.....a total disgrace....FIFA.... joke....no doubt IF we do appeal and win...and then a miracle happens and we win the league cup...no doubt our Europa cup adventure will start against a team in Uzbekistan. What did Appollo Creed say in Rocky.....it's not how hard you hit...it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward....Let's hope BCFC do exactly that....F*ck em!!!!! ** We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!![/p][/quote]What about if Alfucham[/p][/quote]Yeah, Go for it Alf...... bcfc1903
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