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UPDATED: Bradford City secure 1,200 more Wembley cup final tickets (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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UPDATED: Bradford City secure 1,200 more Wembley cup final tickets
8:00am Thursday 7th February 2013 in Sport
By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
The mad rush for Wembley tickets will begin again next Thursday
City are drawing up a priority plan for the general sale of Wembley tickets after confirming they had secured 1,200 more seats.
The club have sold close to 29,000 tickets so far for the Capital One Cup final against Swansea on February 24. They were given an initial allocation of 31,852 before the request for extras was approved.
Sales are restricted to season-ticket and flexicard holders only until the close of business on Wednesday. The remainder are due to go on general sale the next morning – but with a preferential system in place.
Director of operations David Baldwin is finalising the format, which will be revealed after the weekend home game against Gillingham.
Baldwin said: “We have got another small allocation and I will be making an announcement either Saturday evening or on Sunday about the process for general sales.
“We are ascertaining how many will be available for general sale from February 13 and what conditions will be applied to that purchase.
“Clearly the demand for these tickets is huge, so I’ve got to put a system in place that creates a fair prioritisation. There will be some trigger put in place.
“People will know by Sunday exactly what the position is going to be for next week.”
Baldwin admits City could have sold their total of tickets twice over as fans from all over the world clamour to get to the club’s first cup final for 102 years.
He said: “I’m not surprised at all. What did surprise me was the volume that we did in the first couple of days.
“We’ve transacted hundreds each day since last Thursday but we literally did 21,000 on the first day and another 6,000 on the second.
“It’s been a huge task. But although there were massive delays because of the volume of traffic, the system held up and we’ve been fully operational at all times.
“There are people who’ve made errors on the system – their own errors. They want us to rectify them and we’ve got to work through those step by step.
“Some people are pressing us for immediate answers but that takes time. When you are dealing with this many people, even 100 errors can take a long time to fix.
“I’d just ask for people to have patience and take some personal responsibility.”
Meanwhile, City are waiting for the swelling on Rory McArdle’s injured ankle to go down before they can assess the severity of the problem. They hope to have the injury scanned either today or tomorrow.
Fans travelling to Wycombe on Tuesday are reminded that tickets from the original game are still valid.
City are running supporter coaches at £20 per head and seats must be booked by 5pm tomorrow. Fans who have the travel receipt from the postponed December trip will get a £10 credit but they must secure their place before the deadline.
Comments(179)
Rambo
says...
6:04pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Since then I have been told Wembley want as few tickets on general sale as possible so as to eliminate touts and opposition fans getting them. If it was 2 per ST (which most fans thought it would be), with our ST/flexicard holders that would be about 20,000 tickets.
There would be no way Wembley/FL would allow 12,000+ to go on general sale and would most likely reduce it to a few thousand. So its very likely if we didn't take up the 3 per ST condition we would be forced into having less support.
militarybantam
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6:23pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Rambo wrote:Have to agree with that. I've heard a lot of people complaining about the prices and how Bradford City are just trying to make a bit if extra cash. However the ticket prices are also set by Wembley and the FA. Roll on the 24th. Be interesting to see how many we get Saturday!
Before anyone starts moaning about 3 per ST, myself and a few others suggested it was Wembley and the Football League who forced City into this. Since then I have been told Wembley want as few tickets on general sale as possible so as to eliminate touts and opposition fans getting them. If it was 2 per ST (which most fans thought it would be), with our ST/flexicard holders that would be about 20,000 tickets. There would be no way Wembley/FL would allow 12,000+ to go on general sale and would most likely reduce it to a few thousand. So its very likely if we didn't take up the 3 per ST condition we would be forced into having less support.
Cityboy78
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6:25pm Wed 6 Feb 13
And so much for the assumption that the 9,000+ season ticket holders would leave plenty of tickets spare.
We have to face that this is a well intentioned decision made by BCFC which has turned a fabulous occassion into a nightmare for many. And a quick look online shows that the tout market is in full flow thanks to Season Ticket holders who are selling spares.
I also disagree with this 'preferential system' for the general sale (yes, before I even know the terms of it!) because by its very nature, it is again going to leave severa loyal fans wanting, and frozen out, thus again feeding the black market and putting City fans money into touts (some of which are City fans) pockets. If the terms are that you must have an Arsenal/Villa stub, these will simply be passed from friends to friends defeating the object.
I might be old fasioned but why not say, 2 per season ticket holder, and a week later, the rest go on general sale, online, on the phone and at the club shop, first come first served. Simple.
militarybantam
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6:30pm Wed 6 Feb 13
I have it from good sources that the FA are liasing with the police and are looking at prosecuting people found to be selling cup final tickets at inflated prices on ebay etc.
these loyal fans that if they were that loyal would already have a season ticket enabling them to have tickets for the final. I don't see why people are moaning so much. I think City or Wembley whoever advocated the 3 per ST has got it spot on
Cityboy78
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6:55pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Firstly, football tickets can not be sold on ebay so thats not going to happen, however they are being sold in large quantities this very second through numerous vendors and online agents at massive mark-ups (£40 ticket is £150, £60 ticket is £170 cheapest!). This is perfectly legal. The only people geting prosecuted by the Police will be those caught selling tickets on Wembley Way on match day. Other than that it is a free for all.
And by reverting to the old classic school yard, im alright Jack argument of 'they should have a ST/Flexi', well, 20,000 of the current ticket holders do not have a ST either, so what makes them so loyal, other than they have a loyal friend who they've cadged a spare off.
A good old fashioned 'que up in the rain' would have been a fairer method than what we have now. At least that would have filtered out a lot Leeds/Hudders fans and plastics who wouldnt even know where the BCFC ticket office is.
nowt fresh
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7:11pm Wed 6 Feb 13
"Long May It Continue"
Michael Suv
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7:17pm Wed 6 Feb 13
silverbantam
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7:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Hund01
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7:39pm Wed 6 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:You come across as a not a very nice Bradford City fan.
A "loyal" supporter would at least have a flexi-card wouldn't they ?
As somebody has said there will be to you definition at least 20 000 disloyal fans sitting around you at Wembley cheering the team on, me including. Enjoy the occasion.
silverbantam
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7:40pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Cityboy78
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7:46pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit
ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong?
I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend.
Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.
Go Torps! Yer flying.
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7:58pm Wed 6 Feb 13
"hey, ho, it's Gary Jones,
he's a little bit old and a little bit slow,
he crossed the ball for Jimmy's goal,
and it got the City to Wembleyyyyy...!"
claret or green ?
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8:02pm Wed 6 Feb 13
bhuna156
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8:43pm Wed 6 Feb 13
nowt fresh
says...
9:02pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final.
You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.
" but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
Alvechurch73
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9:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Cityboy78
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9:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Theres no 'infering' about it, if you Google 'Capital cup final ticket', the first two pages bring up at least EIGHT sites, selling bog standard £40 tickets for £155 upwards, and thats not including the 30% tax, plus additional postage = £210 + per ticket. And theres no way that the sellers details are going to be disclosed by the agent as they arent obliged in law to do this so why should they? They would lose money and customers would just go to rival sites who abide by confidentiality agreements.
When all's said and done, wether your a loyal ST holder or not, money talks, and as you can see from the multitude of posts over the last few weeks, who cares about non ST/Flexi holders, i've got a ticket, im alright.
Long live the Bradford Army, the community spirited family club with a close knit, well bonded following that excludes nobody, like a band of brothers, we all watch each others backs no matter what.
I just hope that should this cup run take it all out of the lads and the season fizzles out in another mid table finish, we arent going to rely on the 20,000 Wembley One Off's to keep coming to games. The cost of excluding proven supporters during this period of frivolity may prove costly.
T'City are for life, not just for Wembley.
Spanish Bantam
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9:24pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Cityboy78
says...
9:38pm Wed 6 Feb 13
nowt fresh wrote:No, sorry, by the 'tried, tested and proven method', i meant permitting each Season Ticket holder to purchase two Wembley tickets each. I dont think anyone would have batted an eye in the slightest if this had been the case, and anyone asking for 3 would have been called a bit of a cheeky little tinker.
Cityboy78 wrote: You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final. " but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
I see your point regarding the Flexi Card however most people who live in London and travel the South watching City away every other week, covering a lot of miles at extra cost, probably didnt even know about the existance of a Flexi Card. And lets be honest, if somebody works away/works shifts or is simply happy to pay £20 on the gate, 8 or 10 times per year, surely this is of financial benefit to the club?
I just think giving ST holders two Wembley tickets would have been fair to all, wheras allocating three has been very kind to one group and very harsh to others. At the end of the day, we are all City fans and i think being fair to everyone would have been, well, errrrr, fair!
COLATS
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9:46pm Wed 6 Feb 13
militarybantam wrote:Goals or fans??:)
Rambo wrote:Have to agree with that. I've heard a lot of people complaining about the prices and how Bradford City are just trying to make a bit if extra cash. However the ticket prices are also set by Wembley and the FA. Roll on the 24th. Be interesting to see how many we get Saturday!
Before anyone starts moaning about 3 per ST, myself and a few others suggested it was Wembley and the Football League who forced City into this. Since then I have been told Wembley want as few tickets on general sale as possible so as to eliminate touts and opposition fans getting them. If it was 2 per ST (which most fans thought it would be), with our ST/flexicard holders that would be about 20,000 tickets. There would be no way Wembley/FL would allow 12,000+ to go on general sale and would most likely reduce it to a few thousand. So its very likely if we didn't take up the 3 per ST condition we would be forced into having less support.
bcfc1903
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9:57pm Wed 6 Feb 13
**
We shout with pride...we'll never hide....Claret and Amber!!!!!
nowt fresh
says...
10:10pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:The club could never make every fan happy so they are damned if the do and damned if they don't, one thing is for sure if the club had gone for 2 tickets per season/flexi ticket holder and the rest on open sale, there would have been a hell of a lot more in the hands of ticket touts than there are with the present system, I don't condone any season/flexi ticket holder buying 3 and then selling 2 on at a profit, but I stand by my original comment re £25 for a flexi ticket is no major outlay for a fan to guarantee a Wembley Play off ticket,£25 for a flexi and attend 2 home games = £45, no flexi and 2 home games £40 hardly rocket science, attending away games puts NOTHING in the Bradford City coffers.
nowt fresh wrote:No, sorry, by the 'tried, tested and proven method', i meant permitting each Season Ticket holder to purchase two Wembley tickets each. I dont think anyone would have batted an eye in the slightest if this had been the case, and anyone asking for 3 would have been called a bit of a cheeky little tinker. I see your point regarding the Flexi Card however most people who live in London and travel the South watching City away every other week, covering a lot of miles at extra cost, probably didnt even know about the existance of a Flexi Card. And lets be honest, if somebody works away/works shifts or is simply happy to pay £20 on the gate, 8 or 10 times per year, surely this is of financial benefit to the club? I just think giving ST holders two Wembley tickets would have been fair to all, wheras allocating three has been very kind to one group and very harsh to others. At the end of the day, we are all City fans and i think being fair to everyone would have been, well, errrrr, fair!Cityboy78 wrote: You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final. " but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
Spanish Bantam
says...
10:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13
nowt fresh wrote:Not just about money mate, not now anyway. More about a fair crack of the whip. But, sadness on my part to one side as I am a genuine fan of many years and I do want to go, I agree that it's a no win really and the likelihood of the extras bought by season ticket holders being sold to other local city fans (plastic or otherwise) is higher than general sale. Still doesn't change the fact that some of them are being touted and surely they could do something to track these to discourage profiteering. Anyhow, all the best to those that have the fortune to be there.
Cityboy78 wrote:The club could never make every fan happy so they are damned if the do and damned if they don't, one thing is for sure if the club had gone for 2 tickets per season/flexi ticket holder and the rest on open sale, there would have been a hell of a lot more in the hands of ticket touts than there are with the present system, I don't condone any season/flexi ticket holder buying 3 and then selling 2 on at a profit, but I stand by my original comment re £25 for a flexi ticket is no major outlay for a fan to guarantee a Wembley Play off ticket,£25 for a flexi and attend 2 home games = £45, no flexi and 2 home games £40 hardly rocket science, attending away games puts NOTHING in the Bradford City coffers.nowt fresh wrote:No, sorry, by the 'tried, tested and proven method', i meant permitting each Season Ticket holder to purchase two Wembley tickets each. I dont think anyone would have batted an eye in the slightest if this had been the case, and anyone asking for 3 would have been called a bit of a cheeky little tinker. I see your point regarding the Flexi Card however most people who live in London and travel the South watching City away every other week, covering a lot of miles at extra cost, probably didnt even know about the existance of a Flexi Card. And lets be honest, if somebody works away/works shifts or is simply happy to pay £20 on the gate, 8 or 10 times per year, surely this is of financial benefit to the club? I just think giving ST holders two Wembley tickets would have been fair to all, wheras allocating three has been very kind to one group and very harsh to others. At the end of the day, we are all City fans and i think being fair to everyone would have been, well, errrrr, fair!Cityboy78 wrote: You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final. " but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
nowt fresh
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10:34pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Spanish Bantam wrote:Read my posts again my comments are aimed at "British" Bradford City fans who could have purchased a flexi for £25 and got a Capital One Cup final ticket and hopefully a Wembley play off ticket,totaly different set of circumstances for you guys from abroard and you have my sympathy,not that that helps you have you no mates who still attend games who could get you a ticket ?.
nowt fresh wrote:Not just about money mate, not now anyway. More about a fair crack of the whip. But, sadness on my part to one side as I am a genuine fan of many years and I do want to go, I agree that it's a no win really and the likelihood of the extras bought by season ticket holders being sold to other local city fans (plastic or otherwise) is higher than general sale. Still doesn't change the fact that some of them are being touted and surely they could do something to track these to discourage profiteering. Anyhow, all the best to those that have the fortune to be there.Cityboy78 wrote:The club could never make every fan happy so they are damned if the do and damned if they don't, one thing is for sure if the club had gone for 2 tickets per season/flexi ticket holder and the rest on open sale, there would have been a hell of a lot more in the hands of ticket touts than there are with the present system, I don't condone any season/flexi ticket holder buying 3 and then selling 2 on at a profit, but I stand by my original comment re £25 for a flexi ticket is no major outlay for a fan to guarantee a Wembley Play off ticket,£25 for a flexi and attend 2 home games = £45, no flexi and 2 home games £40 hardly rocket science, attending away games puts NOTHING in the Bradford City coffers.nowt fresh wrote:No, sorry, by the 'tried, tested and proven method', i meant permitting each Season Ticket holder to purchase two Wembley tickets each. I dont think anyone would have batted an eye in the slightest if this had been the case, and anyone asking for 3 would have been called a bit of a cheeky little tinker. I see your point regarding the Flexi Card however most people who live in London and travel the South watching City away every other week, covering a lot of miles at extra cost, probably didnt even know about the existance of a Flexi Card. And lets be honest, if somebody works away/works shifts or is simply happy to pay £20 on the gate, 8 or 10 times per year, surely this is of financial benefit to the club? I just think giving ST holders two Wembley tickets would have been fair to all, wheras allocating three has been very kind to one group and very harsh to others. At the end of the day, we are all City fans and i think being fair to everyone would have been, well, errrrr, fair!Cityboy78 wrote: You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final. " but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
BenBlyth
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TirNaNog
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Jonbantam
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Cityboy78
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Another is that our historically superb away support help cheer the players on to magnificent victories that shape the fabric and history of the club we support today...Blackpool, Wolves, Everton, Middlesborough, Forest, Norwich, Hull, Hudders, (lets not forget Watford, Notts County, Wigan and Villa!) to name but a few memorable nights off the top o' me ed. I'm sure this list of games will mean nowt to the 20k mates with Wembers tickets but hey ho.
The travelling Bradford Army might be of little consequence this month (funny how we gave away tickets to the Wycombe match to bolster away support) but for fellow fans and the board to cast them aside without a second thought is disgraceful.
Bingban
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11:13pm Wed 6 Feb 13
What needs to happen now is that these problems are anticipated and managed and some Claret and Amber Club at a tenner or so is introduced to give another layer in distribution to people known to the club and Police. In that way a traceable sale is possible whether to our remoter mates in Australia Spain or London and then they can sort out how many amongst the ST/Flexi/Membership can be allocated - starting 25th Feb? CTID
settler07
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silverbantam
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11:39pm Wed 6 Feb 13
settler07 wrote:Except you can't buy a season ticket for this season, only for next season.
Think the system is fine. For the last god knows how many seasons we have had gates consisting of about 9k regular season ticket holders plus about 3k occasional others. So there aint more than those 3-4k who can really claim to be genuinely at risk of missing out. And given most people who go to city even occasionally or have a genuine interest in the club are likely to know season ticket holders many of those 3-4k will have been catered for by friends already. So i dont buy anyone claiming there is a mass hard done to crowd out there. If we've sold 29k there are still 4k tickets left and that is plenty given our normal non season ticket attendances. There is always time to buy a season ticket for the rest of this season people and then get your wembley tickets before they go on general sale!
bcfc1903
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nowt fresh wrote:Yeah...totally agree with this NF!!!!! There are four folk in Sligo that got Flexi's and have been over exactly twice to watch games. That doesn't mean to say i've no sympathy for fans that haven't got Cup final tickets, i hope every BCFC fan gets one, but there were ways to guarantee that...and buying a Flexi was a great deal for those who couldn't afford a ST or didn't get to enough games to make a ST worth while. Good luck to all BCFC fans yet to get a ticket, hope you are successful in your quest to get one.
Cityboy78 wrote:The club could never make every fan happy so they are damned if the do and damned if they don't, one thing is for sure if the club had gone for 2 tickets per season/flexi ticket holder and the rest on open sale, there would have been a hell of a lot more in the hands of ticket touts than there are with the present system, I don't condone any season/flexi ticket holder buying 3 and then selling 2 on at a profit, but I stand by my original comment re £25 for a flexi ticket is no major outlay for a fan to guarantee a Wembley Play off ticket,£25 for a flexi and attend 2 home games = £45, no flexi and 2 home games £40 hardly rocket science, attending away games puts NOTHING in the Bradford City coffers.
nowt fresh wrote:No, sorry, by the 'tried, tested and proven method', i meant permitting each Season Ticket holder to purchase two Wembley tickets each. I dont think anyone would have batted an eye in the slightest if this had been the case, and anyone asking for 3 would have been called a bit of a cheeky little tinker. I see your point regarding the Flexi Card however most people who live in London and travel the South watching City away every other week, covering a lot of miles at extra cost, probably didnt even know about the existance of a Flexi Card. And lets be honest, if somebody works away/works shifts or is simply happy to pay £20 on the gate, 8 or 10 times per year, surely this is of financial benefit to the club? I just think giving ST holders two Wembley tickets would have been fair to all, wheras allocating three has been very kind to one group and very harsh to others. At the end of the day, we are all City fans and i think being fair to everyone would have been, well, errrrr, fair!Cityboy78 wrote: You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final. " but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
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Waynus1971
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Cityboy78 wrote:You do write some absolute crap fella. Firstly, please post some of these URLs that you claim show Bradford City tickets being sold at inflated prices....!
I very much doubt Wembley/The FA would force the 3 tickets per season ticket, on any club. I have never heard of it being implemented before, including for any of the many previous Play Off final / Johnny Paint Final / FA Trophey matches etc (including 1996 obviousley). If they were so bothered, they would print the buyers name on the tickets like several concert promoters now do.
And so much for the assumption that the 9,000+ season ticket holders would leave plenty of tickets spare.
We have to face that this is a well intentioned decision made by BCFC which has turned a fabulous occassion into a nightmare for many. And a quick look online shows that the tout market is in full flow thanks to Season Ticket holders who are selling spares.
I also disagree with this 'preferential system' for the general sale (yes, before I even know the terms of it!) because by its very nature, it is again going to leave severa loyal fans wanting, and frozen out, thus again feeding the black market and putting City fans money into touts (some of which are City fans) pockets. If the terms are that you must have an Arsenal/Villa stub, these will simply be passed from friends to friends defeating the object.
I might be old fasioned but why not say, 2 per season ticket holder, and a week later, the rest go on general sale, online, on the phone and at the club shop, first come first served. Simple.
Secondly, you say this (3 per person) hasn't happened before. How many cup finals have you seen where a low tier side gets to a MAJOR cup final, played in front of 90k fans? No, the 3 per person rule may not have been used before, but then again, this isn't a standard situation...!
You keep banging on about helping 'loyal supporters'. Sorry, but if they are that loyal, they would either have a season ticket themselves, a flexi or a mate that could sell them one of their 3 entitlement....!
By giving a ST/FC holder the chance to buy 3 tickets, it rewards those that stuck with the club. Those regulars know who their friends are, what teams (if any) they support and whether they should be eligible for a ticket. By putting them on general sale (on a first come, first served basis), anybody could buy them and we could end up with 10k non-City fans in the City end.
I have a season ticket and have renewed each season since I was in my late teens. I have children now, but if you get your way, I would only be able to take one child, meaning the other misses out. How is that fair on me, someone who has been supportive for many years?
My wife now buys my season ticket and is happy for me to get out and enjoy my other passion. Are you saying I shouldn't be able to 'reward' her for her patience when I often arrived home with a black cloud above my head?
Just so a fan, that no longer attends, gets a chance to re-live their glory days....! Give it a rest. It could be worse, you could be a Swansea fan, without a season ticket and a minimum spend.....!
Waynus1971
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12:18am Thu 7 Feb 13
Alvechurch73 wrote:Sorry, but that is a ridiculous suggestion. Let's pretend we adopted that strategy; as a ST holder, I buy 2 tickets when they come on sale. They then go on general sale, but there are still some left. Why the FECK would I then want to buy another when it is highly likely that it will be nowhere near the 2 I have already secured?
I'd be interested to hear how different people define loyalty. Does the fact that someone has a season ticket/flexi card actually make them more loyal than someone who attends many matches across the country but few home games? Is someone more loyal because they have, or have had, a season ticket for the past few years, shall we say prem days onwards, than someone who has actively supported the club for decades but doesn't own a season ticket? I think the club should have limited ST holders to 2 per ticket, limited the window for general sale and offered any remainders back to ST holders on a first come first served basis.
We would then simply end up not selling our allocation.
One point though. Does this have to be around 'loyalty'? "having or showing continuing allegiance" is the definition of loyalty, so it doesn't matter if that is at home or traveling away. However, as City only 'benefit financially' from home supporters, obviously they should be treated more fairly than those that travel to away games.
As for those that claim they cannot afford to get to home games, how the h3ll are they planning on paying for a Wembley ticket etc?
Bantamdownsouth
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12:29am Thu 7 Feb 13
I am concerned with the preferential general sale however. Due to my personal circumstances and being based in London I do not have a ST or a flexi card.
An argument I have seen crop up ever since tickets went on sale is "Should have bought a Flexi card" followed up by "Loyal supporters would have"
I haven't been to VP for three years simply as I cannot, therefore I haven't bought a Flexi as it would have simply been a waste of money. Instead I spent the little spare cash I have on trips out to the likes of Gillingham, Barnet, Brentford and Wycombe (see you there Tuesday) and on items from the club shop (picked up and delivered by my parents) therefore I'm gutted that I probably won't be able to follow my beloved Bantams to Wembley.
I hope the club does take the distant fans (especially those abroad) into consideration when distributing the general sale tickets and I sincerely hope I don't have to pay an inflated fee to a tout just so I can be there.
To all the fans who have tickets I offer my hearty congratulations and I hope you all enjoy the day out and sing as loud as you can. I hope to see you there. If not, I shall sit in my local (clad in city gear) and raise a pint to you all.
Waynus1971
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12:30am Thu 7 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:'City are for life, not just for Wembley". You hit the nail on the head there sunshine. Where are all these fans each and every Saturday if they are still mad Bradford fans?
Giving priority during the 'not so' general sale, to folks with season tickets for next season (who havent already bought 3 tickets using the allocation for having this seasons ST) makes sense. And by the club and Baldwins own admission, we do not have the facilities or staff to cope with fans queing at VP so this would shift more tickets using the online system.
Theres no 'infering' about it, if you Google 'Capital cup final ticket', the first two pages bring up at least EIGHT sites, selling bog standard £40 tickets for £155 upwards, and thats not including the 30% tax, plus additional postage = £210 + per ticket. And theres no way that the sellers details are going to be disclosed by the agent as they arent obliged in law to do this so why should they? They would lose money and customers would just go to rival sites who abide by confidentiality agreements.
When all's said and done, wether your a loyal ST holder or not, money talks, and as you can see from the multitude of posts over the last few weeks, who cares about non ST/Flexi holders, i've got a ticket, im alright.
Long live the Bradford Army, the community spirited family club with a close knit, well bonded following that excludes nobody, like a band of brothers, we all watch each others backs no matter what.
I just hope that should this cup run take it all out of the lads and the season fizzles out in another mid table finish, we arent going to rely on the 20,000 Wembley One Off's to keep coming to games. The cost of excluding proven supporters during this period of frivolity may prove costly.
T'City are for life, not just for Wembley.
You say, "I just hope that should this cup run take it all out of the lads and the season fizzles out in another mid table finish, we arent going to rely on the 20,000 Wembley One Off's to keep coming to games.". No. we won't rely on the 20,000 Wembley one-off's, just like we won't rely on the stay-away ex-Bradford City supporters....! It'll likely be the same 10k plus that we rely on now, plus maybe (hopefully) a few hundred extra fans that enjoyed the buzz of following City so much, they get the bug to go back and follow the team in the league. And before you say that won't happen, it has happened before...!
Thorntonbantam
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1:03am Thu 7 Feb 13
Rambo
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1:18am Thu 7 Feb 13
Waynus1971 wrote:Like you say, how many 4th division teams get to a major final?
Cityboy78 wrote:You do write some absolute crap fella. Firstly, please post some of these URLs that you claim show Bradford City tickets being sold at inflated prices....!
I very much doubt Wembley/The FA would force the 3 tickets per season ticket, on any club. I have never heard of it being implemented before, including for any of the many previous Play Off final / Johnny Paint Final / FA Trophey matches etc (including 1996 obviousley). If they were so bothered, they would print the buyers name on the tickets like several concert promoters now do.
And so much for the assumption that the 9,000+ season ticket holders would leave plenty of tickets spare.
We have to face that this is a well intentioned decision made by BCFC which has turned a fabulous occassion into a nightmare for many. And a quick look online shows that the tout market is in full flow thanks to Season Ticket holders who are selling spares.
I also disagree with this 'preferential system' for the general sale (yes, before I even know the terms of it!) because by its very nature, it is again going to leave severa loyal fans wanting, and frozen out, thus again feeding the black market and putting City fans money into touts (some of which are City fans) pockets. If the terms are that you must have an Arsenal/Villa stub, these will simply be passed from friends to friends defeating the object.
I might be old fasioned but why not say, 2 per season ticket holder, and a week later, the rest go on general sale, online, on the phone and at the club shop, first come first served. Simple.
Secondly, you say this (3 per person) hasn't happened before. How many cup finals have you seen where a low tier side gets to a MAJOR cup final, played in front of 90k fans? No, the 3 per person rule may not have been used before, but then again, this isn't a standard situation...!
You keep banging on about helping 'loyal supporters'. Sorry, but if they are that loyal, they would either have a season ticket themselves, a flexi or a mate that could sell them one of their 3 entitlement....!
By giving a ST/FC holder the chance to buy 3 tickets, it rewards those that stuck with the club. Those regulars know who their friends are, what teams (if any) they support and whether they should be eligible for a ticket. By putting them on general sale (on a first come, first served basis), anybody could buy them and we could end up with 10k non-City fans in the City end.
I have a season ticket and have renewed each season since I was in my late teens. I have children now, but if you get your way, I would only be able to take one child, meaning the other misses out. How is that fair on me, someone who has been supportive for many years?
My wife now buys my season ticket and is happy for me to get out and enjoy my other passion. Are you saying I shouldn't be able to 'reward' her for her patience when I often arrived home with a black cloud above my head?
Just so a fan, that no longer attends, gets a chance to re-live their glory days....! Give it a rest. It could be worse, you could be a Swansea fan, without a season ticket and a minimum spend.....!
Lets be frank. 99% of the time its club that has a lot of ST holders compared to us. Clubs that have waiting lists, membership schemes (just to entered into a lottery for tickets), priority for fans who've been to the most away games (E.g. Villa staggered their tickets for Valley Parade depending on how many away games you've been to, counting down from about 7 i think). Even being a ST at some clubs doesn't guarantee a ticket for a game like this.
Look at us. In the 4th division half the time theres no record of you actually going to an away ground, you just hand your money over.
We probably have one of the lowest number of ST holders for a cup final team, certainly in the last 20 years or so, and have no membership system.
In future maybe the entire Football League will have to start issuing away tickets/membership system in case it happens again.
I stick by what I heard. Wembley would have severely limited our ticket numbers had we only gone for 2 per ST.
Durko11
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3:40am Thu 7 Feb 13
the F.A.
they should have known a stadium with a capacity of 90,000 was never going to be big enough!
we are only a 4th division side and there are literally thousands of people who are going to be disappointed.
could you imagine how hard it would be if you were a man u fan?
CTID
tyker2
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5:29am Thu 7 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:you have never heard it before because it has not happened:all the big clubs have gates far higher that their allocation for such games
I very much doubt Wembley/The FA would force the 3 tickets per season ticket, on any club. I have never heard of it being implemented before, including for any of the many previous Play Off final / Johnny Paint Final / FA Trophey matches etc (including 1996 obviousley). If they were so bothered, they would print the buyers name on the tickets like several concert promoters now do.
And so much for the assumption that the 9,000+ season ticket holders would leave plenty of tickets spare.
We have to face that this is a well intentioned decision made by BCFC which has turned a fabulous occassion into a nightmare for many. And a quick look online shows that the tout market is in full flow thanks to Season Ticket holders who are selling spares.
I also disagree with this 'preferential system' for the general sale (yes, before I even know the terms of it!) because by its very nature, it is again going to leave severa loyal fans wanting, and frozen out, thus again feeding the black market and putting City fans money into touts (some of which are City fans) pockets. If the terms are that you must have an Arsenal/Villa stub, these will simply be passed from friends to friends defeating the object.
I might be old fasioned but why not say, 2 per season ticket holder, and a week later, the rest go on general sale, online, on the phone and at the club shop, first come first served. Simple.
undercliffebantam
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5:30am Thu 7 Feb 13
Burton Albion
Capital One Cup
Att. 4,178 (proper fans)
I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly.
PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
shoesmaker4
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5:51am Thu 7 Feb 13
Michael Clayton
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8:25am Thu 7 Feb 13
In order to do a count-back this would necessitate printing names on those tickets.
I don't know how complicated / cumbersome such a system would but I think it would be the fairest way all round. This could be handled through postal applications with an invitation to apply no later than such and such a date.
Such an idea would probably exclude those abroad. However, those living overseas have chosen their path and should accept the situation they are in.
Also, if the ex-pats are such loyal / wonderful fans, why is they wait until the big day i.e.cherry-pick? If I am not mistaken, there are plenty of seats available at most League Two games.
If they cannot make it once/twice a season they should act with a bit of dignity; rather than behaving like a Veruca Salt.
silverbantam
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8:26am Thu 7 Feb 13
shoesmaker4 wrote:Can someone please translate this post into English ?
as above durko 11 tried loads of times over the phone to get two tikets but no look up to press no thay ask me if hive got a flexi card but havent got one as live in northampton and carnt get to most games but also do think that the people that can get to the games ie season tiket and flexi card holders should get them first to witch is fair anough
silverbantam
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8:29am Thu 7 Feb 13
Go to VP on Saturday with a wad of cash and there maybe fans with spare tickets willing to sell to you !!
undercliffebantam
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8:52am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:At cost price ?????
Little tip for those without tickets.
Go to VP on Saturday with a wad of cash and there maybe fans with spare tickets willing to sell to you !!
dannbradfc
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8:55am Thu 7 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:Its called prefential to reward/prioritise "loyal" fans. If your as "loyal" as you claim then your "loyalty" is attempted to be prioritised over others. Its an attempt to be fair.....
I very much doubt Wembley/The FA would force the 3 tickets per season ticket, on any club. I have never heard of it being implemented before, including for any of the many previous Play Off final / Johnny Paint Final / FA Trophey matches etc (including 1996 obviousley). If they were so bothered, they would print the buyers name on the tickets like several concert promoters now do. And so much for the assumption that the 9,000+ season ticket holders would leave plenty of tickets spare. We have to face that this is a well intentioned decision made by BCFC which has turned a fabulous occassion into a nightmare for many. And a quick look online shows that the tout market is in full flow thanks to Season Ticket holders who are selling spares. I also disagree with this 'preferential system' for the general sale (yes, before I even know the terms of it!) because by its very nature, it is again going to leave severa loyal fans wanting, and frozen out, thus again feeding the black market and putting City fans money into touts (some of which are City fans) pockets. If the terms are that you must have an Arsenal/Villa stub, these will simply be passed from friends to friends defeating the object. I might be old fasioned but why not say, 2 per season ticket holder, and a week later, the rest go on general sale, online, on the phone and at the club shop, first come first served. Simple.
dannbradfc
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9:00am Thu 7 Feb 13
Hund01 wrote:but thats the case each and every week is'nt it?
silverbantam wrote: A "loyal" supporter would at least have a flexi-card wouldn't they ?You come across as a not a very nice Bradford City fan. As somebody has said there will be to you definition at least 20 000 disloyal fans sitting around you at Wembley cheering the team on, me including. Enjoy the occasion.
At least 20 thousand haven't been attending every week this season, so how's it any different?
If we hadn't made it to wembley their non-attendance would have continued. In actual fact there is an argument to suggest that there is more chance of any 'newbies' purchasing tickets nect year than those claiming to be city fans but don't go, haven't been for years or who only attend 'big' games.........
dannbradfc
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9:01am Thu 7 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:how would those long distance fans get tickets if you had to queue?
You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.
Spanish Bantam
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9:04am Thu 7 Feb 13
nowt fresh wrote:Thanks for the comment. Having read the later posts, just wanted to say that physically being there doesn't make someone more or less of a Bantam, I think someone else said that loyalty is actually continuing to care about your team because at the end of the day it's in our blood and it means something to us. I do agree that attendance/ST/Flexi should give someone the advantage in the tickets scrum, after that an online lottery/first come first lucky of the spares would at least give a glimmer no? Like Silver's comment about the wads of cash around Valley Parade, conjures up a great image of someone buying a couple of 100 bovrils on the Kop in an effort to make friends and influence!
Spanish Bantam wrote:Read my posts again my comments are aimed at "British" Bradford City fans who could have purchased a flexi for £25 and got a Capital One Cup final ticket and hopefully a Wembley play off ticket,totaly different set of circumstances for you guys from abroard and you have my sympathy,not that that helps you have you no mates who still attend games who could get you a ticket ?.nowt fresh wrote:Not just about money mate, not now anyway. More about a fair crack of the whip. But, sadness on my part to one side as I am a genuine fan of many years and I do want to go, I agree that it's a no win really and the likelihood of the extras bought by season ticket holders being sold to other local city fans (plastic or otherwise) is higher than general sale. Still doesn't change the fact that some of them are being touted and surely they could do something to track these to discourage profiteering. Anyhow, all the best to those that have the fortune to be there.Cityboy78 wrote:The club could never make every fan happy so they are damned if the do and damned if they don't, one thing is for sure if the club had gone for 2 tickets per season/flexi ticket holder and the rest on open sale, there would have been a hell of a lot more in the hands of ticket touts than there are with the present system, I don't condone any season/flexi ticket holder buying 3 and then selling 2 on at a profit, but I stand by my original comment re £25 for a flexi ticket is no major outlay for a fan to guarantee a Wembley Play off ticket,£25 for a flexi and attend 2 home games = £45, no flexi and 2 home games £40 hardly rocket science, attending away games puts NOTHING in the Bradford City coffers.nowt fresh wrote:No, sorry, by the 'tried, tested and proven method', i meant permitting each Season Ticket holder to purchase two Wembley tickets each. I dont think anyone would have batted an eye in the slightest if this had been the case, and anyone asking for 3 would have been called a bit of a cheeky little tinker. I see your point regarding the Flexi Card however most people who live in London and travel the South watching City away every other week, covering a lot of miles at extra cost, probably didnt even know about the existance of a Flexi Card. And lets be honest, if somebody works away/works shifts or is simply happy to pay £20 on the gate, 8 or 10 times per year, surely this is of financial benefit to the club? I just think giving ST holders two Wembley tickets would have been fair to all, wheras allocating three has been very kind to one group and very harsh to others. At the end of the day, we are all City fans and i think being fair to everyone would have been, well, errrrr, fair!Cityboy78 wrote: You are correct, you cant please 'all of the people all of the time', however you can 'satisfy the vast majority' by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST. Anyroad, I have raised quite a few arguments, such as ST's being (or rather NOT) sold on Ebay, the 9k ST holders apparantly 'not going to take' the full allocation of 3 each, the 'loyalty' of the 20,000 non-season ticket holders who have final tickets many of whom are selling them on for profit, isolating long term dedicated fans who dont have ST's as they live down south/overseas/milit ary etc etc. I don't appear to have had any reasoned argument or debate to these points other than the usual no-brained 'stop moaning' 'should have a ST/Flexi' blah blah blah. Surely this means one thing....I'm right, and the board have got it wrong? I've got my ticket so dont mind, and i'm sure you've all got yours so you don't give a monkeys for the unfortunate, so I know i'm not going to be supported by many but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palarver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend. Oh, and it looks like quite a few of the Club Wembley seats are empty tonight for Englan v Brazil. I dread to think how many vacent red seats wil be visible come the 24th.I assume by your above comment" by using tried, tested and proven methods, i.e. 2 per ST" you mean the two home games against Arsenal & Villa well it would have been difficult to give season ticket holders 3 as Valley Parade only holds 25,000 and we have 9,500 season/flexi ticket holders and we had to give away fans X% of the tickets, life is cruel and I feel for the overseas City fans as they could not be expected to purchase a season/flexi ticket to watch the lads, BUT Bradford City fans who live away from Bradford could have purchased a flexi ticket for £25, now at the start of this season it was well documented the board had given Phil Parkinson a very good budget for this season with the brief to get Bradford City promoted,so if these fans had faith in the club a £25 flexi ticket would have guaranteed them a ticket to Wembley to a play off final and of course a massive bonus with a ticket for Wembley to watch us in the "Capital One Cup" final. " but can somebody just acknowledge that this sale has been a palaver at best, which could easily have been averted and allowed more genuine City fans to attend" I'd say apart from the fans abroad Wembley we will have around 9,500 GENUINE fans watching them as this is the average home crowd this season and up to 23,000+ hangers on who are out to enjoy the day including my party of of us 9 in total,life is far from fair let's see how many of those 23,000 hangers on will boost our next home game against Gillingham this Saturday ?? I won't hold my breath we'll be lucky if we break 11,000.
czechbantam
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9:07am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:Silver I'll try mate.
shoesmaker4 wrote: as above durko 11 tried loads of times over the phone to get two tikets but no look up to press no thay ask me if hive got a flexi card but havent got one as live in northampton and carnt get to most games but also do think that the people that can get to the games ie season tiket and flexi card holders should get them first to witch is fair anoughCan someone please translate this post into English ?
Cobbler4 is saying blah blah blah will someone please feel sorry for me and get me a ticket for Wembley!!
macca1969
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9:10am Thu 7 Feb 13
undercliffebantam wrote:I was there with my lad who has since not missed a game. A new supporter was born out of that comeback and YES he is going to Wembley too. In fact i believe him to be the lucky mascot as he has watched all the cup ties home and away. :)
TUE 25 SEPTEMBER
Burton Albion
Capital One Cup
Att. 4,178 (proper fans)
I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly.
PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
mark hudson
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9:11am Thu 7 Feb 13
I fear many of you loyal fans will spend most the game at Wembley explaining to the person next to you what colour shirt Bradford are in and what the players names are.
Stevie-C
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9:12am Thu 7 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:Well said cityboy78, 100% agree with you. I have my ticket too, but know plenty of people that aren't city fans but are tagging along just as an excuse for a jolly boys weekend to London with their workmates who may be ST holders. Totally disagree with it but whats done is done so there is no point moaning about it. I just give them banter, as you do! My heart really goes out to proper city fans who won't get a ticket just because they no longer go as often as they used to due to personal circumstances. I know, I have been there. Anyways: Come on City!!!
I have my nice swanky £100 seat sorted so i'm easy either way, however I simpathise with the way the tickets have been sold.
Firstly, football tickets can not be sold on ebay so thats not going to happen, however they are being sold in large quantities this very second through numerous vendors and online agents at massive mark-ups (£40 ticket is £150, £60 ticket is £170 cheapest!). This is perfectly legal. The only people geting prosecuted by the Police will be those caught selling tickets on Wembley Way on match day. Other than that it is a free for all.
And by reverting to the old classic school yard, im alright Jack argument of 'they should have a ST/Flexi', well, 20,000 of the current ticket holders do not have a ST either, so what makes them so loyal, other than they have a loyal friend who they've cadged a spare off.
A good old fashioned 'que up in the rain' would have been a fairer method than what we have now. At least that would have filtered out a lot Leeds/Hudders fans and plastics who wouldnt even know where the BCFC ticket office is.
TheCoach
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9:16am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:Intresting you use the word 'fans'. Anyone who has bought extra tickets with that intention is scum!!!
Little tip for those without tickets. Go to VP on Saturday with a wad of cash and there maybe fans with spare tickets willing to sell to you !!
silverbantam
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9:16am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam
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9:25am Thu 7 Feb 13
TheCoach wrote:I mean cost price. You still need a wad of cash to pay cost price!!
silverbantam wrote:Intresting you use the word 'fans'. Anyone who has bought extra tickets with that intention is scum!!!
Little tip for those without tickets. Go to VP on Saturday with a wad of cash and there maybe fans with spare tickets willing to sell to you !!
Dancinfeet
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9:27am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam
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9:28am Thu 7 Feb 13
Well done to the club for getting this spot on !!
Michael Clayton
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9:38am Thu 7 Feb 13
mark hudson wrote:The club offered you half-price home tickets based on an initial investment of £25/£50. If you are willing to pay over the odds (full price) then you cannot use your outlay as a justification for your argument.
Its nice to see that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders who have secured the tickets for the cup final. I am a life long supporter of the club who has had to travel around the country in order to secure a permenant job, evenwhile living in Weston super Mare last year I regularly travelled to Bradford to watch games and attended many away games. I have not got a season ticket nor a flxicard, however I have paid more into the clubs coffers by paying on the day at the ground than the season ticket holders or flexi card holders with the 10 home games and 6 away games I have attended this season travelling from Newcastle at every opportunity. The cub made a huge mistake with the 3 tickets per sason ticket holder, as rightly pointed out, many of these tickets are now available at vastly inflated prices on the internet. as for prioritising the last lot of tickets what a joke. I pressume the Gillingham game will be a sell out this weekend seen as we have so many loyal fans. I cannot afford £165 each for a ticket for myself and son to go to Wembley. In an effort to get a ticket I have written to Exeter City , and Carlisle United who were advetising their allocation of tickets on their club websites.. I do appreciate the fact that there are many people who want to see the game, but the genuine fan really as been let down by both the FA and the Club. . I also admit that in the past due to my location, in an earlier round at Wigan, it was not possible for me to get to Bradford to collect a ticket and as a result I had a chat with Mr Baldwin with whom I left my green stubs with and he posted me two tickets for the Wigan game, which was very much appreciated. I fear many of you loyal fans will spend most the game at Wembley explaining to the person next to you what colour shirt Bradford are in and what the players names are.
What else are Mark Lawn and Julian Rhodes supposed to do; other than wipe people's backsides?
BigFigure
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9:40am Thu 7 Feb 13
ea limited sales to 2 tickets per person.On the site below,Swansea end tickets are available.Being able to buy 2 or 3 doesn't seem to make any difference to those who will sell tickets on....
http://www.1st4footb
alltickets.com/capit
al-one-cup-final-201
3-bradford-city-vs-s
wansea-city-tickets/
london-11127.html
Stevie-C
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9:44am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:hahaha my sentiments exactly :-)
shoesmaker4 wrote:Can someone please translate this post into English ?
as above durko 11 tried loads of times over the phone to get two tikets but no look up to press no thay ask me if hive got a flexi card but havent got one as live in northampton and carnt get to most games but also do think that the people that can get to the games ie season tiket and flexi card holders should get them first to witch is fair anough
mark hudson
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9:52am Thu 7 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:I am not trying to justify an arguement merely expressing my dissapointment. A lot of the people "supporting" BCFC at Wembley will never have set foot in ValleyParade nor will they ever after the final.
mark hudson wrote:The club offered you half-price home tickets based on an initial investment of £25/£50. If you are willing to pay over the odds (full price) then you cannot use your outlay as a justification for your argument.
Its nice to see that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders who have secured the tickets for the cup final. I am a life long supporter of the club who has had to travel around the country in order to secure a permenant job, evenwhile living in Weston super Mare last year I regularly travelled to Bradford to watch games and attended many away games. I have not got a season ticket nor a flxicard, however I have paid more into the clubs coffers by paying on the day at the ground than the season ticket holders or flexi card holders with the 10 home games and 6 away games I have attended this season travelling from Newcastle at every opportunity. The cub made a huge mistake with the 3 tickets per sason ticket holder, as rightly pointed out, many of these tickets are now available at vastly inflated prices on the internet. as for prioritising the last lot of tickets what a joke. I pressume the Gillingham game will be a sell out this weekend seen as we have so many loyal fans. I cannot afford £165 each for a ticket for myself and son to go to Wembley. In an effort to get a ticket I have written to Exeter City , and Carlisle United who were advetising their allocation of tickets on their club websites.. I do appreciate the fact that there are many people who want to see the game, but the genuine fan really as been let down by both the FA and the Club. . I also admit that in the past due to my location, in an earlier round at Wigan, it was not possible for me to get to Bradford to collect a ticket and as a result I had a chat with Mr Baldwin with whom I left my green stubs with and he posted me two tickets for the Wigan game, which was very much appreciated. I fear many of you loyal fans will spend most the game at Wembley explaining to the person next to you what colour shirt Bradford are in and what the players names are.
What else are Mark Lawn and Julian Rhodes supposed to do; other than wipe people's backsides?
Bingban
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9:54am Thu 7 Feb 13
We might be 4th division but we are a big city club with a relatively large regular crowd. Look at the Fleetwood crowd they would need to offer 10 tickets per supporter (not ST holders) to fill their end - but theres only one Bradford City and only one fourth teir cub to get to a major up Wembley final. Not helpful to those who will miss out this time but you know what to do for next time?
Andy2010
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9:54am Thu 7 Feb 13
BigFigure wrote:Exactly
For information....Swans
ea limited sales to 2 tickets per person.On the site below,Swansea end tickets are available.Being able to buy 2 or 3 doesn't seem to make any difference to those who will sell tickets on....
http://www.1st4footb
alltickets.com/capit
al-one-cup-final-201
3-bradford-city-vs-s
wansea-city-tickets/
london-11127.html
I've been offered tickets by 4 "lifelong" fans who attend VP every week but bought three when they only really needed one.
And these are fans which travel round the country week in week out following city.
I don't blame them to be honest
Michael Clayton
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9:59am Thu 7 Feb 13
Stevie-C wrote:Might have been better using a real phone and not a Fisher Price.
silverbantam wrote:hahaha my sentiments exactly :-)shoesmaker4 wrote: as above durko 11 tried loads of times over the phone to get two tikets but no look up to press no thay ask me if hive got a flexi card but havent got one as live in northampton and carnt get to most games but also do think that the people that can get to the games ie season tiket and flexi card holders should get them first to witch is fair anoughCan someone please translate this post into English ?
Stevie-C
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9:59am Thu 7 Feb 13
Michael Clayton
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10:02am Thu 7 Feb 13
mark hudson wrote:A percentage will come back (encouraged by the person who invited them). That was part of the strategy. The proof will be reflected in ST sales next season.
Michael Clayton wrote:I am not trying to justify an arguement merely expressing my dissapointment. A lot of the people "supporting" BCFC at Wembley will never have set foot in ValleyParade nor will they ever after the final.mark hudson wrote: Its nice to see that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders who have secured the tickets for the cup final. I am a life long supporter of the club who has had to travel around the country in order to secure a permenant job, evenwhile living in Weston super Mare last year I regularly travelled to Bradford to watch games and attended many away games. I have not got a season ticket nor a flxicard, however I have paid more into the clubs coffers by paying on the day at the ground than the season ticket holders or flexi card holders with the 10 home games and 6 away games I have attended this season travelling from Newcastle at every opportunity. The cub made a huge mistake with the 3 tickets per sason ticket holder, as rightly pointed out, many of these tickets are now available at vastly inflated prices on the internet. as for prioritising the last lot of tickets what a joke. I pressume the Gillingham game will be a sell out this weekend seen as we have so many loyal fans. I cannot afford £165 each for a ticket for myself and son to go to Wembley. In an effort to get a ticket I have written to Exeter City , and Carlisle United who were advetising their allocation of tickets on their club websites.. I do appreciate the fact that there are many people who want to see the game, but the genuine fan really as been let down by both the FA and the Club. . I also admit that in the past due to my location, in an earlier round at Wigan, it was not possible for me to get to Bradford to collect a ticket and as a result I had a chat with Mr Baldwin with whom I left my green stubs with and he posted me two tickets for the Wigan game, which was very much appreciated. I fear many of you loyal fans will spend most the game at Wembley explaining to the person next to you what colour shirt Bradford are in and what the players names are.The club offered you half-price home tickets based on an initial investment of £25/£50. If you are willing to pay over the odds (full price) then you cannot use your outlay as a justification for your argument. What else are Mark Lawn and Julian Rhodes supposed to do; other than wipe people's backsides?
Rich73
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10:09am Thu 7 Feb 13
notpoliticallycorrect
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10:14am Thu 7 Feb 13
At the end of the day £50 outlay would have guaranteed all these 'fans' tickets to Wembley. Funny how they can suddenly afford to go there?
On a final note, the club are likely to offer new season ticket holders and perhaps new 50/50 card holders the first opportunity to get one of the last 4,000 tickets first. Once again you have the chance to show 'support'.
But then there is no pleasing some people, I am sure many would have happily given all the tickets to the likes of the Second West boozers who would rather sit and do the horses and pools coupons on a Saturday than venture down to actually support their local club.
TheCoach
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10:17am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:Ah my apologies, all these angels have been buying up tickets so they can sell them at cost price!! my mistake!! Personally I think you'll be closer needing an extemely LARGE wad of cash to purchase a ticket on Saturday. Not that I need one, I have mine!! Happy Days!!!
TheCoach wrote:I mean cost price. You still need a wad of cash to pay cost price!!silverbantam wrote: Little tip for those without tickets. Go to VP on Saturday with a wad of cash and there maybe fans with spare tickets willing to sell to you !!Intresting you use the word 'fans'. Anyone who has bought extra tickets with that intention is scum!!!
militarybantam
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10:22am Thu 7 Feb 13
Waynus1971
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10:27am Thu 7 Feb 13
The only tickets that will genuinely be up for sale are the Wembley members ones. My family have 3 STs/FCs and I bought our whole allocation with them. However, I know for a fact who they have gone to and that they will be used by genuine fans (okay, a couple are children, but why shouldn't they experience the day)?
As I said above and reinforced by Dann, there are a large number of people claiming to be City fans but unable to get to games anymore. They now believe the club owes them. However, are they seriously expecting the club to resist the opportunity of attracting 'NEW' fans to the club?
Before City reached the play-off final in 96, our average gate was miniscule, the number of STs even lower. Following that success, we increased our average gates 2 or 3 fold. Many of those were new supporters. It can happen again this time, but not if we reward the fans that have no intention (for personal reasons and I'm not knocking their reasons) of going again next season.......!
I believe we have around 4,500 tickets left. I agree that these should now be offered to new season ticket holders (2013/14) on a 2 per ticket basis. After that, open the website and let any MEMBER (must have registered before the start of 2013) but 1 ticket each.
I'm bored of this debate now. The stay-aways made their choice not to buy a season ticket or flexi and the club made their choice to reward those that did. END OF!!
Thee Voice of Reason
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10:27am Thu 7 Feb 13
undercliffebantam wrote:Same old same old.
TUE 25 SEPTEMBER Burton Albion Capital One Cup Att. 4,178 (proper fans) I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly. PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
I live in Bradford, don't have a season ticket or flexicard but have supported them in the past, where are my tickets, boo hoo.
The club are 100% right on how they have done this and are 100% right in making people jump through hoops for the final allocation. I see someone above is moaning about this "priority system" that will be put in place, mainly because they know they haven't bothered to set foot inside VP this season but still think they are entitled to tickets.
I'm sure those who say they have paid in to 10 games this season but don't have a season ticket or flexicard will have bookings to prove this to be the case, after all there are no pay on the day turnstiles at BCFC so they must have been to the ticket office so the ticket office can back them up.
BigFigure
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10:37am Thu 7 Feb 13
Waynus1971 wrote:interesting observation about the nature of these ticket sites,mate. One of them currently offering tickets is the self same site that thought we were playing Arsenal and Villa at St Georges Hall....
Can people stop looking at these bogus sites and accusing fans of selling on tickets. Most of the searches bring up dodgy sites that claim they can get tickets. Have you noticed that none of them provided block or seat numbers? They aren't genuine and will end up writing back to advise they have been unable to allocate tickets and offer a refund.
The only tickets that will genuinely be up for sale are the Wembley members ones. My family have 3 STs/FCs and I bought our whole allocation with them. However, I know for a fact who they have gone to and that they will be used by genuine fans (okay, a couple are children, but why shouldn't they experience the day)?
As I said above and reinforced by Dann, there are a large number of people claiming to be City fans but unable to get to games anymore. They now believe the club owes them. However, are they seriously expecting the club to resist the opportunity of attracting 'NEW' fans to the club?
Before City reached the play-off final in 96, our average gate was miniscule, the number of STs even lower. Following that success, we increased our average gates 2 or 3 fold. Many of those were new supporters. It can happen again this time, but not if we reward the fans that have no intention (for personal reasons and I'm not knocking their reasons) of going again next season.......!
I believe we have around 4,500 tickets left. I agree that these should now be offered to new season ticket holders (2013/14) on a 2 per ticket basis. After that, open the website and let any MEMBER (must have registered before the start of 2013) but 1 ticket each.
I'm bored of this debate now. The stay-aways made their choice not to buy a season ticket or flexi and the club made their choice to reward those that did. END OF!!
Prisoner Cell Block A
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10:57am Thu 7 Feb 13
Cityboy78 wrote:They are NOT loyal, they would be there week in week out if there were. The static nature of our crowds shows just how many loyal supporters we have. As there has been such a clamour to support this City team I am sure that the next few home matches will be total sell outs, thus proving you right and me wrong.
I very much doubt Wembley/The FA would force the 3 tickets per season ticket, on any club. I have never heard of it being implemented before, including for any of the many previous Play Off final / Johnny Paint Final / FA Trophey matches etc (including 1996 obviousley). If they were so bothered, they would print the buyers name on the tickets like several concert promoters now do.
And so much for the assumption that the 9,000+ season ticket holders would leave plenty of tickets spare.
We have to face that this is a well intentioned decision made by BCFC which has turned a fabulous occassion into a nightmare for many. And a quick look online shows that the tout market is in full flow thanks to Season Ticket holders who are selling spares.
I also disagree with this 'preferential system' for the general sale (yes, before I even know the terms of it!) because by its very nature, it is again going to leave severa loyal fans wanting, and frozen out, thus again feeding the black market and putting City fans money into touts (some of which are City fans) pockets. If the terms are that you must have an Arsenal/Villa stub, these will simply be passed from friends to friends defeating the object.
I might be old fasioned but why not say, 2 per season ticket holder, and a week later, the rest go on general sale, online, on the phone and at the club shop, first come first served. Simple.
If we do not break above the 11k gate for the Gills match this Saturday one can only assume these 'loyal' fans are only 'loyal' if and when the occasion suits them.
I am so glad so many will be upset and disappointed they cannot get Wembley tickets, this may **** their concsience in future when deciding to spend their Saturday afternoon doing anything but watching the club they love so much.
The 3 per ticket holder has been explained how this figure was reached, a ratio of ticket holders/Villa/Arsena
l attendees and the amount of tickets on offer, as there were approx 20k on offer for the afc and avfc matches this worked out a t a pro rata of 1.8 tickets per holder, as there are now 30k on offer the same ratio applies and this worked out at 2.75 per holder, as you cannot have .75 of a ticket this was rounded up and gives even better VFM to the people who have recognised the strides this club has made to ensure affordable football for all and keep the interest in BCAFC alive.
mark hudson
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10:57am Thu 7 Feb 13
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:I have all the ticket stubbs for the games that I attended home and away Including the very first game at Notts County that were purhased at the ticket office, as well as as a printout (if required) of the tickets I purchased online and collected from the ground on the day of the game. was aso a season ticket holder for 12 years prior to moving away with work, I class myself as a upporter of the club and not a fan
undercliffebantam wrote:Same old same old.
TUE 25 SEPTEMBER Burton Albion Capital One Cup Att. 4,178 (proper fans) I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly. PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
I live in Bradford, don't have a season ticket or flexicard but have supported them in the past, where are my tickets, boo hoo.
The club are 100% right on how they have done this and are 100% right in making people jump through hoops for the final allocation. I see someone above is moaning about this "priority system" that will be put in place, mainly because they know they haven't bothered to set foot inside VP this season but still think they are entitled to tickets.
I'm sure those who say they have paid in to 10 games this season but don't have a season ticket or flexicard will have bookings to prove this to be the case, after all there are no pay on the day turnstiles at BCFC so they must have been to the ticket office so the ticket office can back them up.
I for one do not believe the club owe me anything other than the opportunity to purchase a ticket
Prisoner Cell Block A
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11:04am Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:^^^^^ YES.
The "preferential system" should prioritise those who buy a season ticket for next season.
audal
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11:17am Thu 7 Feb 13
Waynus1971
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11:28am Thu 7 Feb 13
mark hudson wrote:You may well have spent more money by going to home games than some. However, if that is the case, why the h3ll didn't you buy yourself a flexi-card? You had an opportunity to get a card (that the club promoted as a viable alternative to a Season Ticket) but chose not to.
Its nice to see that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders who have secured the tickets for the cup final. I am a life long supporter of the club who has had to travel around the country in order to secure a permenant job, evenwhile living in Weston super Mare last year I regularly travelled to Bradford to watch games and attended many away games. I have not got a season ticket nor a flxicard, however I have paid more into the clubs coffers by paying on the day at the ground than the season ticket holders or flexi card holders with the 10 home games and 6 away games I have attended this season travelling from Newcastle at every opportunity. The cub made a huge mistake with the 3 tickets per sason ticket holder, as rightly pointed out, many of these tickets are now available at vastly inflated prices on the internet. as for prioritising the last lot of tickets what a joke. I pressume the Gillingham game will be a sell out this weekend seen as we have so many loyal fans. I cannot afford £165 each for a ticket for myself and son to go to Wembley. In an effort to get a ticket I have written to Exeter City , and Carlisle United who were advetising their allocation of tickets on their club websites.. I do appreciate the fact that there are many people who want to see the game, but the genuine fan really as been let down by both the FA and the Club. . I also admit that in the past due to my location, in an earlier round at Wigan, it was not possible for me to get to Bradford to collect a ticket and as a result I had a chat with Mr Baldwin with whom I left my green stubs with and he posted me two tickets for the Wigan game, which was very much appreciated. I fear many of you loyal fans will spend most the game at Wembley explaining to the person next to you what colour shirt Bradford are in and what the players names are.
Instead, you say you opted to buy match-day tickets instead at the turnstiles. You chose to pay at the gate, where the club have no record of your purchase. How do you propose the club assess your viability for tickets without proof that you have been going to games? Yes, you may have kept your ticket stubs, or you may have cadged some off other fans (no proof they belong to you), but how do you propose showing them to the club? We opted to sell tickets online/phone, so the option to go to the ticket office with your 'proof' isn;t an option...!
Waynus1971
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11:41am Thu 7 Feb 13
mark hudson wrote:Which you have got, with all the others when they go on general sale. You are (now) a 'general' supporter and are thus treated as such.
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:I have all the ticket stubbs for the games that I attended home and away Including the very first game at Notts County that were purhased at the ticket office, as well as as a printout (if required) of the tickets I purchased online and collected from the ground on the day of the game. was aso a season ticket holder for 12 years prior to moving away with work, I class myself as a upporter of the club and not a fan I for one do not believe the club owe me anything other than the opportunity to purchase a ticketundercliffebantam wrote: TUE 25 SEPTEMBER Burton Albion Capital One Cup Att. 4,178 (proper fans) I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly. PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.Same old same old. I live in Bradford, don't have a season ticket or flexicard but have supported them in the past, where are my tickets, boo hoo. The club are 100% right on how they have done this and are 100% right in making people jump through hoops for the final allocation. I see someone above is moaning about this "priority system" that will be put in place, mainly because they know they haven't bothered to set foot inside VP this season but still think they are entitled to tickets. I'm sure those who say they have paid in to 10 games this season but don't have a season ticket or flexicard will have bookings to prove this to be the case, after all there are no pay on the day turnstiles at BCFC so they must have been to the ticket office so the ticket office can back them up.
If you have 'all' the ticket stubs, this then begs the question (again), why did YOU CHOOSE to not take advantage of the club's excellent idea of the flexi?
wembley bound
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11:49am Thu 7 Feb 13
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Andy2010
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11:58am Thu 7 Feb 13
audal wrote:well my friend you are a fool
Oh dear, i feel so guilty because i purchased only ONE ticket thus denying touts business or passing two on to lifelong supporters in waikikamukau.
You should have purchased three and sold on two as everyone else is.
Theres decent mark up to be made especially when they have all gone.
I managed to secure 2 corp tickets as well through a consultancy and are looking to sell these on as well.
Should make about £300 quick profit so pays for travel and goes towards a half decent hotel in that there London.
Nice shopping trip also beckons
Stevie-C
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12:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A
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12:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13
undercliffebantam wrote:What self respecting Leeds or Huddersfield fan would want to pay the best part of or more than £100 quid on a day out to watch a local rival? Especially when it can be viewed for free in the tap room etc??
TUE 25 SEPTEMBER
Burton Albion
Capital One Cup
Att. 4,178 (proper fans)
I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly.
PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
I think some people have fallen for wind ups or have wound themselves up into a frenzied paranoid state whereby anyone but them attending is obviously doing so by unfair or foul means.
I'm loving the description of the bloke above who said he would try telling his wife he was going to be a 'fan' with the same priveldges as a 'supporter'
My thoughts exactly but how it was worded made me laugh,
Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13
theoutsider
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1:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bantamdownsouth wrote:Whilst I sympathise you wont be there was £50 quid beyond you for a flexi ? that would have been a bit of loyalty and seen over the threashold for stuff like this ( granted not even mystic meg saw it coming ? ).
Although I'm not particularly pleased with the three per ST/Flexi holder system I completely understand why it's been done and do not begrudge those who have snapped up their tickets and shared them with friends and family.
I am concerned with the preferential general sale however. Due to my personal circumstances and being based in London I do not have a ST or a flexi card.
An argument I have seen crop up ever since tickets went on sale is "Should have bought a Flexi card" followed up by "Loyal supporters would have"
I haven't been to VP for three years simply as I cannot, therefore I haven't bought a Flexi as it would have simply been a waste of money. Instead I spent the little spare cash I have on trips out to the likes of Gillingham, Barnet, Brentford and Wycombe (see you there Tuesday) and on items from the club shop (picked up and delivered by my parents) therefore I'm gutted that I probably won't be able to follow my beloved Bantams to Wembley.
I hope the club does take the distant fans (especially those abroad) into consideration when distributing the general sale tickets and I sincerely hope I don't have to pay an inflated fee to a tout just so I can be there.
To all the fans who have tickets I offer my hearty congratulations and I hope you all enjoy the day out and sing as loud as you can. I hope to see you there. If not, I shall sit in my local (clad in city gear) and raise a pint to you all.
Still there's another one coming up May-be ?
nowt fresh
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1:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13
notpoliticallycorrecBang on the money notpoliticallycorrec
t wrote:
Sorry but the above poster is correct. Attending away games in the League is great and shows some committment as well as offering vocal support to your team, BUT it puts no money in the clubs coffers as gate receipts are kept by the Home team in League matches. Therefore financially you do not help BCFC. The way to help our club as Mark Lawn says each year is to go out and buy a season ticket or a 50/50 card. If you support the club there is no excuse to not at least buy a 50/50. In my opinion unless you actually put money into the club you are a fan not a supporter. I support my family by providing finances, perhaps I should change and tell them I am just a fan and deserve the same comforts that I currently enjoy without actually contributing financially. See how long that would last. At the end of the day £50 outlay would have guaranteed all these 'fans' tickets to Wembley. Funny how they can suddenly afford to go there? On a final note, the club are likely to offer new season ticket holders and perhaps new 50/50 card holders the first opportunity to get one of the last 4,000 tickets first. Once again you have the chance to show 'support'. But then there is no pleasing some people, I am sure many would have happily given all the tickets to the likes of the Second West boozers who would rather sit and do the horses and pools coupons on a Saturday than venture down to actually support their local club.
t for an out lay of £25/£50 for a flexi ticket they could have guaranteed a potential Wembley play off ticket and the bonus of a Capital One Cup final ticket that's how LOYAL they are (Bantams abroad not included) less than £1 a week into the clubs coffers even if they never attended a home game..!!
gspot01
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1:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13
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If it makes you feel better then my wife who has never been to a game has got one of my spares...why? Because she has put up with my bad moods for the last 12 months becasue i've been loyal and supported the club in what can only be described as depressing days - so she deserves a day out at wembley as a treat!!
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Enjoy watching it on the TV.
jim75
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1:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13
bcfc1903
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1:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13
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We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!
Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13
bcfc1903 wrote:That is because they are SUPPORTERS. They have put money into the club account knowing they would probably lose out financially. Well the pledge they made has worked out admirably for them and I am very happy these lads will get the chance to see City play live at Wembley.
Like quite a few posters on this thread, don't quite see what the problem is. Surely an outlay of £50 for a flexi was a no brainer for those not going to all the games at Valley Parade. Like i said in a previous post on this thread, four BCFC fans from Ireland bought four Flexi cards and they've been able to come over twice to watch games at VP...now they along with other family members will be there at Wembley. They decided to get the flexi's even though they new they would be for limited use only, to support the football club. I HAVE got sympathy for those BCFC fans that haven't got tickets but the club couldn't IMO have handled the selling of Wembley tickets any better.
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We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!
Now you, yes you mate, up there in Harden/Idle/Shipley who has found excuse after excuse to not attend, I bet you feel mightily daft for not having the faith and club fortune at heart as the Irish Bantams had.
TheCoach
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2:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
bcfc1903
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2:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13
TheCoach wrote:You do know that alot of the stuff about leeds and hudds fans is a wind up.
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
TheCoach
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2:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13
bcfc1903 wrote:Regardless, if people are just buying tickets to then act as touts to line their own pockets then they should hang their haeds!
TheCoach wrote: Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!! Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket. I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system. It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!! If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future. If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!You do know that alot of the stuff about leeds and hudds fans is a wind up.
Andy2010
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3:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
bradford_Northern
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3:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13
I can understand that. When the Bulls went to Wembley in 1996 I too was a bit miffed when everyone jumped on the bandwagon - having watched mainly crap rugby since 1974, there was a bit of me that thought I probably deserved to go more than the very occasional supporter. And I probably did. If there became a point where tickets weren't available then I would have hoped to have been given priority.
However, once all the seasoned supported have their tickets then anyone else who wants to go and support the club, whether it be their first, or 100th time, should be welcomed. What would people rather have? 80,000 Swansea glory-seekers against just 10,000 'genuine' City fans?
I think not - there have obviously been a few issues with ticketing, but I imagine that all the supporters who watch City a lot have managed to get one. So who cares if 30,000 'hanger-on-ers' are going - they will support City and create a tremendous atmosphere.
I know the Second West mob will be chuffed to bits to get some tickets.....LOL.
bcfc1903
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3:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13
TheCoach wrote:Very few will be doing that regarding selling on tickets....our extended family could have got 27 Wembley tickets...we bought 21. Like most BCFC ST holders, i bought what i needed.
bcfc1903 wrote:Regardless, if people are just buying tickets to then act as touts to line their own pockets then they should hang their haeds!
TheCoach wrote: Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!! Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket. I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system. It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!! If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future. If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!You do know that alot of the stuff about leeds and hudds fans is a wind up.
wembley bound
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3:30pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A
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3:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
irishgent
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3:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13
We should be proud that we have more loyal fans than most clubs in divisions 1 and 2 (and even some in the Chamionship)
I live in Ireland - see all the night games (inc Capital1 cup) - I have got 2 tickets for Wembley from a friend with 3 Season Tickets - does anyone actually know a genuine loyal fan who has not got a ticket yet.
The club get 45% of the revenue from Sales of their allocation and have to be admired for again maximising the cash they get from this achievment by the 3 ticket allocation. I would rather see 32,000 people cheering on the lads than having 10,000 tickets left in Bradford waiting for the loyal fans to turn up
With regard to the fans travelling from far away - I believe the club will ensure these loyal distant fans get tickets
My son flies in from Australia for 24 hours to see the match - he has a ticket
keep the passion flowing !!!
jim75
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4:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Andy2010
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4:37pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Stevie-C
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5:01pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
audal
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5:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13
gspot01
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5:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bingban wrote:couldn.t put it better myself.
Lets put things into perspective please. 12 years ago our fan base was fairly substantial (at least for a 50 year + City fan) but there have been fall-offs as we plumeted the divisions. Those fans who have stuck with the club are heros and deserve support from the club and 3/ST/FC might be see as that. Ok there are lots who are going to miss out but life moves on and if you were a season ticket holder 6-9 years ago just appreciate we who have stuck by miserable footalling standards at VP. I see this as my reward for over 20 years with a ST - yes I had second thoughts 2 seasons ago but stuck in there. This season was always going to be better and I had no doubts I would be in my usual seat. There are genuine hard luck stories and I'm not cold to these people. But its a fact of life that those who can demonstrate their current support will receive preference
We might be 4th division but we are a big city club with a relatively large regular crowd. Look at the Fleetwood crowd they would need to offer 10 tickets per supporter (not ST holders) to fill their end - but theres only one Bradford City and only one fourth teir cub to get to a major up Wembley final. Not helpful to those who will miss out this time but you know what to do for next time?
BantamSouth
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5:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam
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5:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13
http://sport.stv.tv/
football/213109-fifa
-order-bradford-to-p
ay-falkirk-compensat
ion-for-mark-stewart
/
Michael Clayton
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6:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13
notpoliticallycorrecThe family financing analogy is one of the funniest things I have read on here. Good look with that venture!
t wrote:
Sorry but the above poster is correct. Attending away games in the League is great and shows some committment as well as offering vocal support to your team, BUT it puts no money in the clubs coffers as gate receipts are kept by the Home team in League matches. Therefore financially you do not help BCFC. The way to help our club as Mark Lawn says each year is to go out and buy a season ticket or a 50/50 card. If you support the club there is no excuse to not at least buy a 50/50. In my opinion unless you actually put money into the club you are a fan not a supporter. I support my family by providing finances, perhaps I should change and tell them I am just a fan and deserve the same comforts that I currently enjoy without actually contributing financially. See how long that would last. At the end of the day £50 outlay would have guaranteed all these 'fans' tickets to Wembley. Funny how they can suddenly afford to go there? On a final note, the club are likely to offer new season ticket holders and perhaps new 50/50 card holders the first opportunity to get one of the last 4,000 tickets first. Once again you have the chance to show 'support'. But then there is no pleasing some people, I am sure many would have happily given all the tickets to the likes of the Second West boozers who would rather sit and do the horses and pools coupons on a Saturday than venture down to actually support their local club.
You can tell a 'supporter' as he will have purchased the foam hand he is wearing.
A 'fan' will have stolen the rosette (easier to conceal).
Pablo
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6:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Money down the drain.
NorthernBull
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6:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13
the opportunity to add 5000 new season ticket holders at a stroke was lost with 3 per ST ...
2 per ST and 13/14 ST purchases qualify...
I wont now be buying a 13/14 st ..but i will be spending the money on 2 web touted face value tickets for £200 each ..
I go to matches ... i have a brick with our family name on in the Stand .... i was at wembley in 96 ..
i was there when we beat wolves to get promoted .. i watched waddle score at Everton from his own half ..
i was there when wetherall scored to keep us in the premier league ..
then i had to have a sabatical .. with 3 young children .... football has to be limited for 4 /5 years ...unless you are a tozer ..
So for my under 10 boys , the only chance of them being the next generation of ST holders / fans now ... lies with me paying through the nose ..to get us to Wembley ..
they often ask why do we support Bradford dad ?
i tell them that is where we are from ..but in their case its not strictly true !!
The complaints should NOT tarnish the teams superb achievement that could help bring city back from the brink as a club.. and even city ..
Well done City .. now by some miracle , probably the biggest ever in English football , win the cup !!
nowt fresh
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6:48pm Thu 7 Feb 13
jim75 wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
With only an average of 11k (would be nearer 5k if it wasnt for the free tickets) i can understand the club wanting to cash in.The likelihood is City will never get to wembley again unless its in the JPT or FA Vase (in a few years) so make hay while the sun shines.The more city make out of this flukey cup run the better for the clubs long term ambitions of avoiding the drop into the conference.It will also help with the rent payments for the future and hopefully encourage the asian community to support the club.
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^^ Your not a sad Stan or Bulls fan are you jim75?? is 75 your age seems you have got "Alzheimer's" flukey cup run ?? we beat Arsenal,Wigan,Villa all Premier League teams if your not aware fool. :-))
gentlemanbob
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7:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13
One happy Chap here...
Got my Ticket and Bus booked...
Never new i had a Family member with a ST.....I do now ...a big Thanks to Simon
Yours
Gentlemanbob
bcfc1903
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7:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13
jim75 wrote:What team do support jim...75 is that your braincell count lol...some serious bitterness here jim...what free tickets are these lol...as it happens we could be back at Wembley this season in the playoffs...read it and weep...by the way..whether they be of English, Irish, German Jewish, Polish or Asian descent..they as Bradfordians are all welcome to support Bradford City Football Club... we have a non racist and an all inclusive fan base.
With only an average of 11k (would be nearer 5k if it wasnt for the free tickets) i can understand the club wanting to cash in.The likelihood is City will never get to wembley again unless its in the JPT or FA Vase (in a few years) so make hay while the sun shines.The more city make out of this flukey cup run the better for the clubs long term ambitions of avoiding the drop into the conference.It will also help with the rent payments for the future and hopefully encourage the asian community to support the club.
**
We shout with pride...we'll never hide..Claret and Amber!!!!
KnightMcCall
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7:47pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Durko11 wrote:Why would anyone want to imagine being Man U fan? Disgusting...
its quite obvious who is to blame for all this debate.
the F.A.
they should have known a stadium with a capacity of 90,000 was never going to be big enough!
we are only a 4th division side and there are literally thousands of people who are going to be disappointed.
could you imagine how hard it would be if you were a man u fan?
CTID
Birky_Neil
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7:47pm Thu 7 Feb 13
silverbantam wrote:What a joke and a bad bit if business that was. He hardly every played for us as well.
FIFA order Bradford to pay Falkirk £215,000 compensation for Mark Stewart
http://sport.stv.tv/
football/213109-fifa
-order-bradford-to-p
ay-falkirk-compensat
ion-for-mark-stewart
/
I wonder if we had not made money in this cup would the fee of been so high? Winds me up how the vultures hover about. Spend it wisely Falkirk and bad luck for rest of your season.
KnightMcCall
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7:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:There are cash turnstiles at VP. I bring pals regularly and make them hand their £20 quid over.
undercliffebantam wrote:Same old same old.
TUE 25 SEPTEMBER Burton Albion Capital One Cup Att. 4,178 (proper fans) I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly. PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
I live in Bradford, don't have a season ticket or flexicard but have supported them in the past, where are my tickets, boo hoo.
The club are 100% right on how they have done this and are 100% right in making people jump through hoops for the final allocation. I see someone above is moaning about this "priority system" that will be put in place, mainly because they know they haven't bothered to set foot inside VP this season but still think they are entitled to tickets.
I'm sure those who say they have paid in to 10 games this season but don't have a season ticket or flexicard will have bookings to prove this to be the case, after all there are no pay on the day turnstiles at BCFC so they must have been to the ticket office so the ticket office can back them up.
chapel house bantam
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7:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13
KnightMcCall
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7:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13
gspot01 wrote:What bad moods gspot; supporting City is easy....you just focus on big days out at Premier League grounds and Wembley? Oh, have you been going to all those tedious league games as well...
I still find it amazing how non season ticket/flexi card holders can moan about not getting a ticket.....one word UNLUCKY!!!!! I have 6 :-)
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If it makes you feel better then my wife who has never been to a game has got one of my spares...why? Because she has put up with my bad moods for the last 12 months becasue i've been loyal and supported the club in what can only be described as depressing days - so she deserves a day out at wembley as a treat!!
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Enjoy watching it on the TV.
Whoisevans?
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8:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Looking at the allocation 3 per season ticket flexi-card holders we have by all accounts covered all the sales to them who deserve a seat. Good luck to all those who go that are not City fans hope you see enough to encourage you to come to more league and cup games.
Whoisevans?
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8:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Michael Suv wrote:Possibly next Monday looking at the comment made by David Baldwin.
Can someone confirm what date the tickets go on general sale? i live in lancashire and i have booked thursday 14th off as the city site says tickets are on sale for season ticket holders/flexi until 13th February till 5pm?
KnightMcCall
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8:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Andy2010 wrote:Then I think you need to check what Collins say about the word "support". How much support do you think you can give anyone from a pub; unless it is your local Darts' team?
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
mattytbd13
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8:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
mattytbd13
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8:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
KnightMcCall
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8:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13
NorthernBull wrote:So you are the part-timer that stopped me from getting a ticket for Wolves...
City and Mr Baldwin no they have cocked up ...
the opportunity to add 5000 new season ticket holders at a stroke was lost with 3 per ST ...
2 per ST and 13/14 ST purchases qualify...
I wont now be buying a 13/14 st ..but i will be spending the money on 2 web touted face value tickets for £200 each ..
I go to matches ... i have a brick with our family name on in the Stand .... i was at wembley in 96 ..
i was there when we beat wolves to get promoted .. i watched waddle score at Everton from his own half ..
i was there when wetherall scored to keep us in the premier league ..
then i had to have a sabatical .. with 3 young children .... football has to be limited for 4 /5 years ...unless you are a tozer ..
So for my under 10 boys , the only chance of them being the next generation of ST holders / fans now ... lies with me paying through the nose ..to get us to Wembley ..
they often ask why do we support Bradford dad ?
i tell them that is where we are from ..but in their case its not strictly true !!
The complaints should NOT tarnish the teams superb achievement that could help bring city back from the brink as a club.. and even city ..
Well done City .. now by some miracle , probably the biggest ever in English football , win the cup !!
I was at Hartlepool earlier this season in the JPT...i have avoided having kids in case they disrupt my support of BCAFC.
A true City fan would know Waddle was NOT in his own half when he chipped the fat welsh bin man.
hardy43
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8:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13
jim75 wrote:Not bitter much!!!!! Thank god he's not a City fan!
With only an average of 11k (would be nearer 5k if it wasnt for the free tickets) i can understand the club wanting to cash in.The likelihood is City will never get to wembley again unless its in the JPT or FA Vase (in a few years) so make hay while the sun shines.The more city make out of this flukey cup run the better for the clubs long term ambitions of avoiding the drop into the conference.It will also help with the rent payments for the future and hopefully encourage the asian community to support the club.
Whoisevans?
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8:18pm Thu 7 Feb 13
irishgent wrote:The ground wasn't full because some of the seats were damaged VP only holds 25,000 and we had 23,400. in the ground for the 1st leg.
Whoah lads - have we really got 30,000 loyal fans - if we had then why was the ground not full for Villa first leg ?
We should be proud that we have more loyal fans than most clubs in divisions 1 and 2 (and even some in the Chamionship)
I live in Ireland - see all the night games (inc Capital1 cup) - I have got 2 tickets for Wembley from a friend with 3 Season Tickets - does anyone actually know a genuine loyal fan who has not got a ticket yet.
The club get 45% of the revenue from Sales of their allocation and have to be admired for again maximising the cash they get from this achievment by the 3 ticket allocation. I would rather see 32,000 people cheering on the lads than having 10,000 tickets left in Bradford waiting for the loyal fans to turn up
With regard to the fans travelling from far away - I believe the club will ensure these loyal distant fans get tickets
My son flies in from Australia for 24 hours to see the match - he has a ticket
keep the passion flowing !!!
KnightMcCall
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8:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13
bcfc1903 wrote:Well said. All are welcome...but City is for life; not just for Wembley.
jim75 wrote:What team do support jim...75 is that your braincell count lol...some serious bitterness here jim...what free tickets are these lol...as it happens we could be back at Wembley this season in the playoffs...read it and weep...by the way..whether they be of English, Irish, German Jewish, Polish or Asian descent..they as Bradfordians are all welcome to support Bradford City Football Club... we have a non racist and an all inclusive fan base.
With only an average of 11k (would be nearer 5k if it wasnt for the free tickets) i can understand the club wanting to cash in.The likelihood is City will never get to wembley again unless its in the JPT or FA Vase (in a few years) so make hay while the sun shines.The more city make out of this flukey cup run the better for the clubs long term ambitions of avoiding the drop into the conference.It will also help with the rent payments for the future and hopefully encourage the asian community to support the club.
**
We shout with pride...we'll never hide..Claret and Amber!!!!
COLATS
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8:20pm Thu 7 Feb 13
macca1969 wrote:I got a lucky fan going with us? Been to 12 games in last 3 years. Won 11 drawn 1. Before you all go off on one about his meagre attendance, he's a referee on sat, so can only go mid week.
undercliffebantam wrote:I was there with my lad who has since not missed a game. A new supporter was born out of that comeback and YES he is going to Wembley too. In fact i believe him to be the lucky mascot as he has watched all the cup ties home and away. :)
TUE 25 SEPTEMBER
Burton Albion
Capital One Cup
Att. 4,178 (proper fans)
I,ve said it before, these fans who attended this game should have 6 or 7 tickets each. The only ones moaning are those fans that don't go regularly.
PS Put your name down for Second West coach. I hear the landlady will queue for a ticket for you.
hardy43
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8:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13
jim75 wrote:People only belittle others achievements to big themselves up! Loser!!!!
1200 more part timers on there way to wembley,shame only 3k turned up for your fa cup game.
bcfc1903
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8:31pm Thu 7 Feb 13
chapel house bantam wrote:Our club is proud... and always has been, very much like the fans who support BCFC.
yawn... how many people on here drink at the second west?at the end of the day like it or not season ticket holder for 100years or not its this year that counts, and only 10k took the option up and stood by there once proud club to try get it where it belongs! so to the rest of you who were ST holders in 2000/2001 TOUGH get in the queue!!
**
We shout with pride....we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!
bcfc1903
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8:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13
KnightMcCall wrote:Yeah KM....I'm sure some BCFC fans that maybe have supported us from a distance but have come to the cup games will stick with us...it's a win win situation for the football club and will increase the clubs fan base. The fair way in which the cup final tickets have been distributed can only enhance the clubs reputation.
bcfc1903 wrote:Well said. All are welcome...but City is for life; not just for Wembley.
jim75 wrote:What team do support jim...75 is that your braincell count lol...some serious bitterness here jim...what free tickets are these lol...as it happens we could be back at Wembley this season in the playoffs...read it and weep...by the way..whether they be of English, Irish, German Jewish, Polish or Asian descent..they as Bradfordians are all welcome to support Bradford City Football Club... we have a non racist and an all inclusive fan base.
With only an average of 11k (would be nearer 5k if it wasnt for the free tickets) i can understand the club wanting to cash in.The likelihood is City will never get to wembley again unless its in the JPT or FA Vase (in a few years) so make hay while the sun shines.The more city make out of this flukey cup run the better for the clubs long term ambitions of avoiding the drop into the conference.It will also help with the rent payments for the future and hopefully encourage the asian community to support the club.
**
We shout with pride...we'll never hide..Claret and Amber!!!!
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We shout with pride...we'll never hide....Claret and Amber!!!
Bantamdownsouth
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9:41pm Thu 7 Feb 13
theoutsider wrote:To be honest I never considered a flexi or a season ticket as I work on Saturdays and Tuesdays, hence why I can never get to VP.
Bantamdownsouth wrote:Whilst I sympathise you wont be there was £50 quid beyond you for a flexi ? that would have been a bit of loyalty and seen over the threashold for stuff like this ( granted not even mystic meg saw it coming ? ).
Although I'm not particularly pleased with the three per ST/Flexi holder system I completely understand why it's been done and do not begrudge those who have snapped up their tickets and shared them with friends and family.
I am concerned with the preferential general sale however. Due to my personal circumstances and being based in London I do not have a ST or a flexi card.
An argument I have seen crop up ever since tickets went on sale is "Should have bought a Flexi card" followed up by "Loyal supporters would have"
I haven't been to VP for three years simply as I cannot, therefore I haven't bought a Flexi as it would have simply been a waste of money. Instead I spent the little spare cash I have on trips out to the likes of Gillingham, Barnet, Brentford and Wycombe (see you there Tuesday) and on items from the club shop (picked up and delivered by my parents) therefore I'm gutted that I probably won't be able to follow my beloved Bantams to Wembley.
I hope the club does take the distant fans (especially those abroad) into consideration when distributing the general sale tickets and I sincerely hope I don't have to pay an inflated fee to a tout just so I can be there.
To all the fans who have tickets I offer my hearty congratulations and I hope you all enjoy the day out and sing as loud as you can. I hope to see you there. If not, I shall sit in my local (clad in city gear) and raise a pint to you all.
Still there's another one coming up May-be ?
Obviously kicking myself as I would have forked out the money, even if the card would never have been used, knowing I could have shared this amazing moment with my fellow city supporters, instead I chose to spend the money in the online club shop.
I don't consider myself to be a special case or more deserving of a ticket than those who have got one already, after all as rightly stated they are the ones who keep the club running, just hope I have a fair crack of the whip at getting my tickets on Thursday morning.
Hope to see you there anyway!
CTID
zakenterprises
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9:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13
If i do not manage to purchase a ticket for the final when they go on sale... i will be watching the game and supporting the lads.
I did phone the club today and asked if one of the avenues the club were looking at was if people purchased a season tocket for 2013/14 they would get first refusal on the tickets....... I was told this is something they were considering but on the flip side they are also thinking that as soon as people purchase the season ticket and then get the cup final tickets...they will then cancel their season ticket........
So that route may be a non starter... it will be interesting to see what happens.
silverbantam
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10:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13
zakenterprises wrote:How can someone cancel their season ticket after they have paid or it ??
As one of the overseas people. I am in the same position as the others...... i just wanted to wish everyone who has a ticket for the final all the best and make us all proud. Enjoy your day at wembley............
If i do not manage to purchase a ticket for the final when they go on sale... i will be watching the game and supporting the lads.
I did phone the club today and asked if one of the avenues the club were looking at was if people purchased a season tocket for 2013/14 they would get first refusal on the tickets....... I was told this is something they were considering but on the flip side they are also thinking that as soon as people purchase the season ticket and then get the cup final tickets...they will then cancel their season ticket........
So that route may be a non starter... it will be interesting to see what happens.
Old and proud
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11:38pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Hold your head in shame as BFF city fans seliling tickets for profit. Unless I am wrong and there are 30000
Oral ticket holders there
Old and proud
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11:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Hold your head in shame as BFF city fans seliling tickets for profit. Unless I am wrong and there are 30000
Oral ticket holders there
TirNaNog
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2:17am Fri 8 Feb 13
How many WAGs will be attending their first City match - EVER? ;-)
undercliffebantam
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5:28am Fri 8 Feb 13
undercliffebantam
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5:40am Fri 8 Feb 13
Quote: "I watched Waddle score at Everton from his own half"
????????? Are you sure you were at Everton.
Michael Clayton
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8:14am Fri 8 Feb 13
A - Exiles
B - Friends and family
'B's' will hopefully add a couple of thousand but we certainly won't be seeing many 'A's'.
Proof that empty cans rattle loudest.
Thee Voice of Reason
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8:37am Fri 8 Feb 13
KnightMcCall wrote:You've avoided having kids incase they disrupt you watching city.
NorthernBull wrote:So you are the part-timer that stopped me from getting a ticket for Wolves...
City and Mr Baldwin no they have cocked up ...
the opportunity to add 5000 new season ticket holders at a stroke was lost with 3 per ST ...
2 per ST and 13/14 ST purchases qualify...
I wont now be buying a 13/14 st ..but i will be spending the money on 2 web touted face value tickets for £200 each ..
I go to matches ... i have a brick with our family name on in the Stand .... i was at wembley in 96 ..
i was there when we beat wolves to get promoted .. i watched waddle score at Everton from his own half ..
i was there when wetherall scored to keep us in the premier league ..
then i had to have a sabatical .. with 3 young children .... football has to be limited for 4 /5 years ...unless you are a tozer ..
So for my under 10 boys , the only chance of them being the next generation of ST holders / fans now ... lies with me paying through the nose ..to get us to Wembley ..
they often ask why do we support Bradford dad ?
i tell them that is where we are from ..but in their case its not strictly true !!
The complaints should NOT tarnish the teams superb achievement that could help bring city back from the brink as a club.. and even city ..
Well done City .. now by some miracle , probably the biggest ever in English football , win the cup !!
I was at Hartlepool earlier this season in the JPT...i have avoided having kids in case they disrupt my support of BCAFC.
A true City fan would know Waddle was NOT in his own half when he chipped the fat welsh bin man.
I leave the missus to look after the kids whilst I go to City on a Saturday and when old enough will be getting child season tickets to bring them up proper.
Children's season tickets are free which is a bonus.
Prisoner Cell Block A
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10:19am Fri 8 Feb 13
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
bazzathetyke
says...
10:37am Fri 8 Feb 13
bhuna156 wrote:I was thinking and indeed hoping the same but it is my understanding that the big screen is the property of the BBC and the Capital One games are broadcast by SKY.
Is the match going to be shown on the big screen at City Park? Or in one of the cinemas in the Media Museum like they did with the Olympics?
bcfc1903
says...
12:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Don't forget the WUMS.. who are all taking a scummer each....there's been post after post on those wind up merchants LOL
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
**
We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!
bcfc1903
says...
12:33pm Fri 8 Feb 13
TirNaNog wrote:Some this stuff is seriously funny...nice one fella!!!!
All those blokes with tickets that have been coerced into 'making a weekend of it' by their other halves should be made to give them back. It is a football match! It is meant for you to get the coach down on the day, stagger off it to find a boozer before the game and stagger back onto it after the game and continue boozing back in Bradford. It wasn't meant for a "shopping trip and possibly take in a show". You sicken me!
How many WAGs will be attending their first City match - EVER? ;-)
bcfc1903
says...
12:35pm Fri 8 Feb 13
bcfc1903 wrote:Some OF ....lol
TirNaNog wrote:Some this stuff is seriously funny...nice one fella!!!!
All those blokes with tickets that have been coerced into 'making a weekend of it' by their other halves should be made to give them back. It is a football match! It is meant for you to get the coach down on the day, stagger off it to find a boozer before the game and stagger back onto it after the game and continue boozing back in Bradford. It wasn't meant for a "shopping trip and possibly take in a show". You sicken me!
How many WAGs will be attending their first City match - EVER? ;-)
bemusedbylife
says...
1:19pm Fri 8 Feb 13
We are not trying to say we are are any better of a fan than you just do not begrudge us getting tickets first (quite rightly) as we sit there every home game. I think its great if peoples interest is renewed/started and there are a few more season ticket aplications for next year.
To all those new 'die hard 'fans that feel the need to moan about why they are so badly done to ill see you at tomorrows game?????
Remember BRADFORD CITY IS FOR LIFE NOT JUST FOR WEMBLEY (i pinched it off here somewhere but think its the wisest/best thing said and sums this nonsense up)
Andy2010
says...
3:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Just lol
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
You are basing a supporter on your own definition
Let me help you with a PROPER definition
sup·port·er Show IPA
noun
1.
a person or thing that supports.
Now that that's settled as please forgive me for using the dictionary to support a proper word lets all get behind city
Whether your going to final, watching at home or elsewhere or not watching and wishing the team all the best we are all supporters in essence so good luck City
Stevie-C
says...
3:09pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:We give in prisoner. You are citys no. 1 supporter and they should erect a statue at VP in your honour for being far superior to anyone else who dares to call themselves a city fan/support. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, meaning some folk cannot commit themselves to ST/FC or even one game a season. To copy michaels comment earlier, its the empty cans that rattle loudest. Unfortunately for you prisoner, people stop listening to the rattle after a while. IDIOT
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
Stevie-C
says...
3:11pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Andy2010 wrote:Well said Andy2010
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Just lol
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
You are basing a supporter on your own definition
Let me help you with a PROPER definition
sup·port·er Show IPA
noun
1.
a person or thing that supports.
Now that that's settled as please forgive me for using the dictionary to support a proper word lets all get behind city
Whether your going to final, watching at home or elsewhere or not watching and wishing the team all the best we are all supporters in essence so good luck City
Rambo
says...
3:15pm Fri 8 Feb 13
are equal."
.
Bull. Even that lot at the Second West, who were so clueless they didn't even know there would be a priority sale for season ticket holders, and made themselves look even more stupid by squealing "but we've been fans since the Wigan game!!"
.
There are lots of people who can go or afford to go for various reason. But I and many others like me will not be lumped into the same category as those plastics in that pub.
NorthernBull
says...
3:25pm Fri 8 Feb 13
when i get my 2 for 450 (behind the goal) ill trace them back via the club ..so we can reveal the entrepreneurs that have had the full weekend paid for by loyal cash fans, by getting 3 per ST ..
profiterring out of your fellow fans ...tickets all over the web ...
ugh !!!
you need a plan Baldwin ..
4000 left
I suggest after missing out on thousands of 13/14 ST's through 3 per ST :
1 per person who can produce a home stub ticket from tomorrows game or a voucher when paying by cash at turnstyles tomorrow ..
at least 4000 more potential fans that are not season ticket holders ,but can show they are fans , would then get to Wembley...
fancy cash payers , £20 on the day getting treat as second class supporters ... Id have though that was vital revenue...
Attending 10 games you pay more in than a ST and double a flexi card holder !!!!
come on mr baldwin .. our fate is in your hands ....
Andy2010
says...
3:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Rambo wrote:I think you will find most "supporters" who dont go to games , dont have a ST or flexi whatever would admit that people that are going week in week out are more committed to the team than themselves. No one is disputing that.
"Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans
are equal."
.
Bull. Even that lot at the Second West, who were so clueless they didn't even know there would be a priority sale for season ticket holders, and made themselves look even more stupid by squealing "but we've been fans since the Wigan game!!"
.
There are lots of people who can go or afford to go for various reason. But I and many others like me will not be lumped into the same category as those plastics in that pub.
What I trying to say is all this them and us is quite frankly pathetic. Yes Im going to the final and no I dont attend VP regulary since I got to about 20 year old and life took over but that doesnt mean I dont support BCFC. I buy shirts each year and when a games on listen on the radio when I can. Even better when on TV make a night of it but it doesnt mean to say I dont support the team.
Are the them and us "fans" that stupid that they cant understand that these "plastics" may become ST holders next season and even if they dont so bloody what. I would hazard a guess and as posted earlier a lot of ST holders have given tickets to their other halves or friends that dont regulary attend VP. Should them ST holders be cast out and burnt at the stake for encouraging "plastics" to attend when they are not worthy. Of course not you dullard.
Lets just stop all this pathetic arguing about where everyone stands and who is better blah blah blah and just support Bradford for gods sake. Quite frankly all this tit for tat rubbish sounds like a couple of 7 year old lads in the playground arguing about who the leader of their gang....its very very sad
Prisoner Cell Block A
says...
3:35pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Stevie-C wrote:Hahaha, he was talking about you and your ilk, you know, those missing thousands.....
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:We give in prisoner. You are citys no. 1 supporter and they should erect a statue at VP in your honour for being far superior to anyone else who dares to call themselves a city fan/support. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, meaning some folk cannot commit themselves to ST/FC or even one game a season. To copy michaels comment earlier, its the empty cans that rattle loudest. Unfortunately for you prisoner, people stop listening to the rattle after a while. IDIOT
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
I wouldn't say I was the number one supporter, I think there are another 8,000 who could lay a similar claim, then add a few more for whatever reason didn't take up any of the clubs offers but still attend regularly and help support the club by GIVING funds to view the spectacle on offer.
Andy, I guide you to 5) below.
sup·port Pronunciation (s-pôrt, -prt)
tr.v. sup·port·ed, sup·port·ing, sup·ports
1. To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2. To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3. To be capable of bearing; withstand: "His flaw'd heart . . . too weak the conflict to support" (Shakespeare).
4. To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5. To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
6. To furnish corroborating evidence for: New facts supported her story.
People need to know and understand the difference between supporter of and fan of.
I like the Bulls to win, I'm not a supporter as I do not attend and do not pay monies to help the club survive and thrive. Therefore I am a fan and would never hope to lay any claim to any of their glory as I have never been part, however small, of any of their success. I also do not get too despondent when they lose.
End of.
Andy2010
says...
3:43pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:OK fair enough
Stevie-C wrote:Hahaha, he was talking about you and your ilk, you know, those missing thousands.....
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:We give in prisoner. You are citys no. 1 supporter and they should erect a statue at VP in your honour for being far superior to anyone else who dares to call themselves a city fan/support. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, meaning some folk cannot commit themselves to ST/FC or even one game a season. To copy michaels comment earlier, its the empty cans that rattle loudest. Unfortunately for you prisoner, people stop listening to the rattle after a while. IDIOT
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
I wouldn't say I was the number one supporter, I think there are another 8,000 who could lay a similar claim, then add a few more for whatever reason didn't take up any of the clubs offers but still attend regularly and help support the club by GIVING funds to view the spectacle on offer.
Andy, I guide you to 5) below.
sup·port Pronunciation (s-pôrt, -prt)
tr.v. sup·port·ed, sup·port·ing, sup·ports
1. To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2. To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3. To be capable of bearing; withstand: "His flaw'd heart . . . too weak the conflict to support" (Shakespeare).
4. To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5. To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
6. To furnish corroborating evidence for: New facts supported her story.
People need to know and understand the difference between supporter of and fan of.
I like the Bulls to win, I'm not a supporter as I do not attend and do not pay monies to help the club survive and thrive. Therefore I am a fan and would never hope to lay any claim to any of their glory as I have never been part, however small, of any of their success. I also do not get too despondent when they lose.
End of.
Well Im a supporter then...I bought a shirt this season and havent attended any games therefore by your definition Im a supporter.
Also if anyone has ever bought a City shirt or paid into the ground or has a ticket for the final they paid a ST holder for then they too are supporters as they have financially contributed to the club
Thanks for clearing that up
End of
undercliffebantam
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3:58pm Fri 8 Feb 13
moanmoanwhingewhinge
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4:04pm Fri 8 Feb 13
So you paid for a shirt but were too tight to pay £25 for a flexi ticket which would have guaranteed a Wembley ticket (and a Villa, and an Arsenal ticket....). Awesome support, all the S/T and flex holders will feel humbled by your words and truly guilty at naughtily buying their Wembley tickets before all the devoted, non-attending 'fans'.
Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:11pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Andy2010 wrote:It isn't my definition but yes, using that definition and your funding into the club, you have supported the club.
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:OK fair enough
Stevie-C wrote:Hahaha, he was talking about you and your ilk, you know, those missing thousands.....
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:We give in prisoner. You are citys no. 1 supporter and they should erect a statue at VP in your honour for being far superior to anyone else who dares to call themselves a city fan/support. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, meaning some folk cannot commit themselves to ST/FC or even one game a season. To copy michaels comment earlier, its the empty cans that rattle loudest. Unfortunately for you prisoner, people stop listening to the rattle after a while. IDIOT
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
I wouldn't say I was the number one supporter, I think there are another 8,000 who could lay a similar claim, then add a few more for whatever reason didn't take up any of the clubs offers but still attend regularly and help support the club by GIVING funds to view the spectacle on offer.
Andy, I guide you to 5) below.
sup·port Pronunciation (s-pôrt, -prt)
tr.v. sup·port·ed, sup·port·ing, sup·ports
1. To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2. To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3. To be capable of bearing; withstand: "His flaw'd heart . . . too weak the conflict to support" (Shakespeare).
4. To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5. To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
6. To furnish corroborating evidence for: New facts supported her story.
People need to know and understand the difference between supporter of and fan of.
I like the Bulls to win, I'm not a supporter as I do not attend and do not pay monies to help the club survive and thrive. Therefore I am a fan and would never hope to lay any claim to any of their glory as I have never been part, however small, of any of their success. I also do not get too despondent when they lose.
End of.
Well Im a supporter then...I bought a shirt this season and havent attended any games therefore by your definition Im a supporter.
Also if anyone has ever bought a City shirt or paid into the ground or has a ticket for the final they paid a ST holder for then they too are supporters as they have financially contributed to the club
Thanks for clearing that up
End of
It doesn't fall into the recognised category for preferential treatment as defined by the club regarding Season Ticket holders and FC holders but any monies given to buy goods or assist the club in being a viable business are supportive and as a supporter and fan I thank you.
I would say that 'has ever' is stretching it in regards to the whole basis of these comments and why it is even in discussion.
I wonder what will happen if we end up in the play-off final too, will this be a circular argument yet again?
Andy2010
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4:37pm Fri 8 Feb 13
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:And who did they give the other 2 spare tickets to?
"I bought a shirt this season and havent attended any games therefore by your definition Im a supporter."
So you paid for a shirt but were too tight to pay £25 for a flexi ticket which would have guaranteed a Wembley ticket (and a Villa, and an Arsenal ticket....). Awesome support, all the S/T and flex holders will feel humbled by your words and truly guilty at naughtily buying their Wembley tickets before all the devoted, non-attending 'fans'.
Non Supporters
The complete b*****ds
Andy2010
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4:47pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Yes it will
Andy2010 wrote:It isn't my definition but yes, using that definition and your funding into the club, you have supported the club.
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:OK fair enough
Stevie-C wrote:Hahaha, he was talking about you and your ilk, you know, those missing thousands.....
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:We give in prisoner. You are citys no. 1 supporter and they should erect a statue at VP in your honour for being far superior to anyone else who dares to call themselves a city fan/support. EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, meaning some folk cannot commit themselves to ST/FC or even one game a season. To copy michaels comment earlier, its the empty cans that rattle loudest. Unfortunately for you prisoner, people stop listening to the rattle after a while. IDIOT
Stevie-C wrote:We aren't ALL SUPPORTING the same team.
Andy2010 wrote:Exactly! hit the nail on the head there andy...you wouldn't think we were all supporting the same team. and I am SICK of reading PrisonerCellBlockA comments, same things said on every article. broken record springs to mind!
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I see you are clearly on the "them and us" arguement.
Andy2010 wrote:Yes it does, the ST and flexi card holders have done exactly as asked by the club. Buy early, give us a playing budget, give us an idea of what that playing budget will be. This is both supportive and VFM, it allows the club to budget and also, due to the price gives value to SUPPORTERS.
TheCoach wrote:This ^^ is probably the most balanced and accurate post this whole thread
Seems crazy that everyone seems to be having a go at one another, police should be aware it could be a battle royal at Wembley, but thats just the BCFC fans amongst themselves. For gods sake pack it in, we get the point for all those who didn't sign up for ST's or Flexi Card the one who did lack sympathy. For me personally this season I didn't but as it happens I've probably been to more games this season than a lot of flexi card holders, thats my fault and can't blame anyone but myself - it's cost a fortune by the way!!!
Luckily for me I know a season ticket holder who's managed to get me a ticket.
I have no issue with the way the club has managed ticket distribution at all, it's a perfectly fair system.
It could have been heartache for me, I've been lucky but I'd have only had myself to blame, those of you in the same situation, take it on board and don't take the risk next year!!
If I were and ST/Flexi card holder who's bought extra tickets to profit, my personal feeling is you should hang your heads in shame rather than boasting about it. Just because you don't have an ST or flexi card doesn't mean your not a Bradford fan, hell we should be encouraging these people who like me won't take the risk of not investing in the future.
If b chance the club go down the route of wanting people to produce game ticket stubs - I have a few!!
The arguements coming from ST holders is quite frankly laughable. Im sure a lot of these would rather not have the club build on the "lucky" success this season and hope that attendances dont increase next season so they can all gather round and moan about the "plastics" or glory hunters.
For gods sake get a grip and grow up out of the its them and use mentality
The club have done well to get where they are and deserve the support on the day from all whether they are at Wembley or watching on tv. Just because your a ST holder doesnt mean you are "better" fan than someone that isnt.
Get a grip people
This has been a six season mantra, ignored by those who are now crying or in fear of not getting a ticket for the club they love so dearly.
Barlacks.
If they are potential supporters, after the Wigan and Arsenal wins do you not think that the tempting £25 flexi the club made available at Xmas would have turned potential into actual?
The reason it didn't is because they are not SUPPORTERS but possible casual fans, not casual enough as our crowds remain failrly static.
The attempt to balance this holds no water with anyone at the club either, they are very happy with the distribution of tickets. Check Dave Baldwin's twitter comments. Hard work but has rewarded those who have supported the club. I bow to the hard work and dedictaion by all involved at City this season. Their efforts have been rewarded.
Fact is whether supporting the team at Wembley, in the pub, at home or up Mount Everest its all good and all fans are equal.
I just dont understand the divisions between certain ST ticket holders who think they are somehow better than everyone else who support the team.
Those 8k+ souls who turn up at Valley Parade week in week out ARE SUPPORTING.
I am very sick at having to explain this difference time and again to the numb, dumb and downright stupid.
It's like trying to train a dog but more futile
I wouldn't say I was the number one supporter, I think there are another 8,000 who could lay a similar claim, then add a few more for whatever reason didn't take up any of the clubs offers but still attend regularly and help support the club by GIVING funds to view the spectacle on offer.
Andy, I guide you to 5) below.
sup·port Pronunciation (s-pôrt, -prt)
tr.v. sup·port·ed, sup·port·ing, sup·ports
1. To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2. To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3. To be capable of bearing; withstand: "His flaw'd heart . . . too weak the conflict to support" (Shakespeare).
4. To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5. To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
6. To furnish corroborating evidence for: New facts supported her story.
People need to know and understand the difference between supporter of and fan of.
I like the Bulls to win, I'm not a supporter as I do not attend and do not pay monies to help the club survive and thrive. Therefore I am a fan and would never hope to lay any claim to any of their glory as I have never been part, however small, of any of their success. I also do not get too despondent when they lose.
End of.
Well Im a supporter then...I bought a shirt this season and havent attended any games therefore by your definition Im a supporter.
Also if anyone has ever bought a City shirt or paid into the ground or has a ticket for the final they paid a ST holder for then they too are supporters as they have financially contributed to the club
Thanks for clearing that up
End of
It doesn't fall into the recognised category for preferential treatment as defined by the club regarding Season Ticket holders and FC holders but any monies given to buy goods or assist the club in being a viable business are supportive and as a supporter and fan I thank you.
I would say that 'has ever' is stretching it in regards to the whole basis of these comments and why it is even in discussion.
I wonder what will happen if we end up in the play-off final too, will this be a circular argument yet again?
As this furore has shown it appears there are about 3 class of "supporters"
1) Those who attend everyweek with ST's
2) Those who have flexi passes
3) Those who get given tickets from season ticket holders
4) Those who are fans and "support (i use the term loosely)"
5) Plastics
6) Glory Hunters
7) Leeds Fans
It would appear that is a correct league standing of what is being talked about here. Obviously whichever group you fall in means you can ridicule members of the group especially if they fall in a group under your own.
My point is why just cant everyone get along regardless of standing. Those in the bottom tier of the standings will all understand the committment from the upper tiers and appreciate them supporting the club they are fans off but at the end of the day everyone one of them groups (barring the Leeds fans) just want City to do well so whats the issue
Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:56pm Fri 8 Feb 13
All football clubs offer preferential treatment to season ticket holders( Flexis too in our case) when it comes to giving priority for those extra special games. That should be the be all and end all of this argument.
Current ST holders are no better nor worse fans than those with other commitments or difficult circumstances. The club can only go on current though and therefore those currently offering support via financial means have rightly been given the expected treatment.
I'm a bit fed up of it all now, I've argued with people I don't really want to and have come across as uncaring and brash when really I would like every City fan/supporter to be able to attend but when a line has to be drawn I am glad that my choice to renew year after year has put me in pole position to purchase tickets for this game.
Andy2010
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5:20pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Spot on
There really shouldn't be an issue.
All football clubs offer preferential treatment to season ticket holders( Flexis too in our case) when it comes to giving priority for those extra special games. That should be the be all and end all of this argument.
Current ST holders are no better nor worse fans than those with other commitments or difficult circumstances. The club can only go on current though and therefore those currently offering support via financial means have rightly been given the expected treatment.
I'm a bit fed up of it all now, I've argued with people I don't really want to and have come across as uncaring and brash when really I would like every City fan/supporter to be able to attend but when a line has to be drawn I am glad that my choice to renew year after year has put me in pole position to purchase tickets for this game.
Saltaire Bantam
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6:52pm Fri 8 Feb 13
hardy43
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6:52pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Old and proud wrote:What?
Well what can I say it must be be a sell out tomorrow sat valey prepaid mr knightmccall " what did you say bradford is for ever not just wembly?
Hold your head in shame as BFF city fans seliling tickets for profit. Unless I am wrong and there are 30000
Oral ticket holders there
bcfc1903
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7:28pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Whoisevans?
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8:21pm Fri 8 Feb 13
bcfc1903
says...
9:14pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Whoisevans? wrote:It's nearer 10,000 season ticket holders and Flexi card holders.
Ok so some "Loyal City Fans" claim they missed out on not getting a ticket for the biggest game for 102 years. We have around 9,000 plus season ticket flex-card holders. This period has been open to a 3 tickets per person with S-T or F-C that comes to 27,000 how come people claim they have not got a ticket surely the 29,000 sold is more than adequate to cover the members. If your a Loyal supporter get in the queue when it opens first thing next Thursday and make sure you get one. I wish I could go to Wembley but unfortunately through ill health I can't go but will yell my support at the TV. Before anyone asks my allocation went to a friend who moved away from the Bradford area but he went all over with Bradford before the heady days of Premier league. So just be grateful you have your good health worse things happen at sea.
Whoisevans?
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12:54pm Sun 10 Feb 13
bcfc1903 wrote:That could well be but if they haven't got a ticket when there's 31,000 tickets available still doesn't make sense. If what you say is true then we only need 30,000 to cover the members. The only way that would fail is if the club allowed more than the allocation per season ticket holder.
Whoisevans? wrote:It's nearer 10,000 season ticket holders and Flexi card holders.
Ok so some "Loyal City Fans" claim they missed out on not getting a ticket for the biggest game for 102 years. We have around 9,000 plus season ticket flex-card holders. This period has been open to a 3 tickets per person with S-T or F-C that comes to 27,000 how come people claim they have not got a ticket surely the 29,000 sold is more than adequate to cover the members. If your a Loyal supporter get in the queue when it opens first thing next Thursday and make sure you get one. I wish I could go to Wembley but unfortunately through ill health I can't go but will yell my support at the TV. Before anyone asks my allocation went to a friend who moved away from the Bradford area but he went all over with Bradford before the heady days of Premier league. So just be grateful you have your good health worse things happen at sea.
Whoisevans?
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1:01pm Sun 10 Feb 13
Whoisevans? wrote:Thinking about the allocation I wonder if the players wives and family and friends were taken into account but wouldn't have thought that would be more than we could afford without upsetting ST holders.
bcfc1903 wrote:That could well be but if they haven't got a ticket when there's 31,000 tickets available still doesn't make sense. If what you say is true then we only need 30,000 to cover the members. The only way that would fail is if the club allowed more than the allocation per season ticket holder.
Whoisevans? wrote:It's nearer 10,000 season ticket holders and Flexi card holders.
Ok so some "Loyal City Fans" claim they missed out on not getting a ticket for the biggest game for 102 years. We have around 9,000 plus season ticket flex-card holders. This period has been open to a 3 tickets per person with S-T or F-C that comes to 27,000 how come people claim they have not got a ticket surely the 29,000 sold is more than adequate to cover the members. If your a Loyal supporter get in the queue when it opens first thing next Thursday and make sure you get one. I wish I could go to Wembley but unfortunately through ill health I can't go but will yell my support at the TV. Before anyone asks my allocation went to a friend who moved away from the Bradford area but he went all over with Bradford before the heady days of Premier league. So just be grateful you have your good health worse things happen at sea.
Michael Clayton
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12:04pm Mon 11 Feb 13
undercliffebantam wrote:Could not agree more.
I, as a season ticket holder, have the right to buy three tickets and give (sell) them to who I like. All you part time supporters are being treat exactly as you deserve. As a season ticket holder I feel that my loyal support has been rewarded. A big thank you to the board and Mr Baldwin.
City reach a major cup final and only 10,8++ turn up for a league game.
I cannot believe I have wasted my time debating this with a bunch of part timers. Shameful.
Hope you enjoy the day out with your guests undercliffebantam. I know that I will.,
Spanish Bantam
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1:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Jonbantam wrote:Hi Jon, just wanted to say thanks for the offer. Whilst the initial race for a ticket got me going, after thinking about it I really want to introduce my two boys to the joys of city, so I am going to pass on the Wembley shennanegans and take them to VP at some point, next season probably, hopefully in Div 1!
Spanishbantam. I plan to purchase 2 season tickets this weekend and if I am able as per the terms for the next sale period I will happily get you a ticket. Following the next announcement I will message you on here. Cheers.
All the best to those that have tickets I'll be shouting at the telly and don't let that bread of heaven be the main song we hear lads.
CTID.
Whoisevans?
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9:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:I assume you mean sell them at the price you paid for them. It is illegal for anyone to sell on a ticket for profit.
undercliffebantam wrote:Could not agree more.
I, as a season ticket holder, have the right to buy three tickets and give (sell) them to who I like. All you part time supporters are being treat exactly as you deserve. As a season ticket holder I feel that my loyal support has been rewarded. A big thank you to the board and Mr Baldwin.
City reach a major cup final and only 10,8++ turn up for a league game.
I cannot believe I have wasted my time debating this with a bunch of part timers. Shameful.
Hope you enjoy the day out with your guests undercliffebantam. I know that I will.,
undercliffebantam
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9:46pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Whoisevans? wrote:You assume correctly. But thanks for the warning.
Michael Clayton wrote:I assume you mean sell them at the price you paid for them. It is illegal for anyone to sell on a ticket for profit.
undercliffebantam wrote:Could not agree more.
I, as a season ticket holder, have the right to buy three tickets and give (sell) them to who I like. All you part time supporters are being treat exactly as you deserve. As a season ticket holder I feel that my loyal support has been rewarded. A big thank you to the board and Mr Baldwin.
City reach a major cup final and only 10,8++ turn up for a league game.
I cannot believe I have wasted my time debating this with a bunch of part timers. Shameful.
Hope you enjoy the day out with your guests undercliffebantam. I know that I will.,
Whoisevans?
says...
1:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13
bcfc1903 wrote:If this is the only way you can get a response I feel for You bcfc1903 and if you have done the unthinkable shame on you. If the club fined out you have sold them for profit they should stop your ticket allowance for the future.
Sorry lads i've caved in...i had seven spare tickets but i've just been back on't BCFC site to purchase them....i got them for three scummers, a dog botherer, a six fingered Burnley mong and a GrimsbyTown fan that works for Findus, he's making a working weekend of it as the met police are sending six horses to the local slaughterhouse on the 23rd. I know i'll get alot of abuse but the last is going on eBay..i wont except less than £500 for a £40 ticket.... I've ticked the box so be gentle with me.
ForeignBantam
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12:54pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Saltaire Bantam wrote:You're hilarious. Should I just fly over for the Gillingham game then?
I think if any of the wembley ticket holders don't go to the Gillingham game then they should have their tickets taken off them.
undercliffebantam
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2:16pm Wed 13 Feb 13
ForeignBantam wrote:I,d say the Gillingham (or any league game) is more important than the COC. Final. More important to get out of Division 2.
Saltaire Bantam wrote:You're hilarious. Should I just fly over for the Gillingham game then?
I think if any of the wembley ticket holders don't go to the Gillingham game then they should have their tickets taken off them.
bcfc1903
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8:10pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Whoisevans? wrote:Winner of the...not the sharpest tool in the box poster...take a bow Whoisevans!!!!
bcfc1903 wrote:If this is the only way you can get a response I feel for You bcfc1903 and if you have done the unthinkable shame on you. If the club fined out you have sold them for profit they should stop your ticket allowance for the future.
Sorry lads i've caved in...i had seven spare tickets but i've just been back on't BCFC site to purchase them....i got them for three scummers, a dog botherer, a six fingered Burnley mong and a GrimsbyTown fan that works for Findus, he's making a working weekend of it as the met police are sending six horses to the local slaughterhouse on the 23rd. I know i'll get alot of abuse but the last is going on eBay..i wont except less than £500 for a £40 ticket.... I've ticked the box so be gentle with me.

bigang02 says...
5:56pm Wed 6 Feb 13