City victory will help to exorcise ghosts of ’88, says Hendrie

The crucial promotion clash against Villa turned out to be John Hendrie’s final league appearance for City

Ian Ormondroyd beats Steve Sims in the air during the 1-0 defeat at Aston Villa on May 3, 1988

Stuart McCall joined John Hendrie out of the City exit door at the end of the season

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford City Reporter

Memories of 1988 will come flooding back when City and Aston Villa lock horns again in front of a full house tomorrow.

While the Bantams are making their first-ever appearance in the last four of the League Cup, big occasions against Villa are nothing new.

For many will recall the May Day Bank Holiday 25 years ago when the sides squared off at Villa Park with promotion to the top flight as the prize.

Millwall won the Second Division that year, inspired by the strike partnership of Tony Cascarino and Teddy Sheringham and the muscle of Terry Hurlock and Keith “Rhino” Stevens – the fearsome defender who terrified City winger Mark Ellis.

Terry Dolan’s Bantams were among four sides scrapping it out for the second automatic spot along with Villa, Middlesbrough and Blackburn.

The tension could not have been higher when City arrived in Birmingham for the penultimate league match.

The visitors were in the box seat, four wins in five lifting them into second – two points ahead of Middlesbrough, three from Villa, four off Blackburn. Another victory could have clinched it.

Villa had already won 4-2 at Valley Parade in November, an occasion marred for John Hendrie by some insensitive remarks by Graham Taylor.

In Hendrie’s eyes, Taylor had “rubbed a lot of Bradford fans the wrong way” by stating that the club were living off the sympathy of the public because of the fire three years earlier. “It didn’t need to be said.”

Villa’s imperious away form was not matched on home soil and City fancied their chances in the May sunshine.

“We were a good side and with a fantastic team spirit,” said Hendrie. “They had been European champions only seven years earlier and were a massive club but that didn’t worry us.

“The atmosphere was tremendous because there was so much at stake. Both sides were in form and it was like a winner takes all.” Hendrie had the first sight of goal, spinning on the edge of the six-yard box but firing just over Nigel Spink’s bar.

But then, midway through the first half, came the decisive moment. Right back Kevin Gage swung a cross into the City penalty area and David Platt slipped from Stuart McCall’s attentions to head into the corner of the net.

Hendrie said: “He took the goal very well, running deep from midfield, which was to become his trademark. He was just coming to prominence then but would score a lot more like that.

“A draw would have done us but we just came up short. They went up on the back of that result.”

City could still have made it but blew up again the following week at home to Ipswich. Then defeat in the play-offs to Middlesbrough forced the break-up of the side, with Hendrie and McCall both on their way.

The “nearly” season, as it has become known with the fans, still rankles with the Scot to this day.

“It was such a great opportunity for us and such a thin line that stopped us. Ultimately it was down to the size of the squad, or the lack of, that cost us.

“Doley wanted Keith Curle and Andy Townsend before the transfer deadline and if we’d got them, we’d have had the strength in depth to see it through. They would have helped us get over the line.

“It was a tiny squad, it would be laughable nowadays. Nobody would have coped with it so it’s remarkable we did as well as we did.”

Villa Park proved to be Hendrie’s final league appearance in a City shirt, ending a run of 173 consecutive games.

A red card in the 2-2 draw at Manchester City the week before meant he was banned for the 3-2 loss to Ipswich on the final day.

Hendrie was sent off for two bookings, the second a highly dubious one for a challenge on City keeper Mike Stowell.

“He went down like a sack of spuds. I never touched him.”

Stockton referee Ken Lupton decided otherwise – a ruling that would rumble on when the pair met again in the north east during Hendrie’s six years playing for Middlesbrough.

Hendrie added: “I’d bump into Ken watching the Boro, supporting the Boro and wearing red and white at games.

“And he’d sent me off when we were against the Boro in the race for promotion. It didn’t seem right.”

But Hendrie feels the present City side are facing Villa at just the right moment.

With confidence brittle after several heavy Premier League beatings over the holiday period, he believes the underdogs can make life very uncomfortable at Valley Parade.

“Villa have not got a lot of experience there. They’ve got injuries to the likes of Bent, Agbonlahor and Dunne and when things aren’t going well, you need the older heads to calm the younger ones down.

“They’ve taken a couple of drubbings recently and psychologically that will play into Bradford’s hands. The City lads will be thinking that they’ve got past Wigan and Arsenal and these aren’t any better.

“Villa are obviously hot favourites over the two legs but it’s perfect for City to be at home first.

“It could have been a bit of an after-event at Valley Parade if City had been well beaten down there. But now both teams will start on a level playing field so it’s going to be such an exciting occasion for the supporters.

“Once again the boys have absolutely nothing to lose, just like the last two rounds.

“Who would have given them a prayer against Arsenal? If you played that Arsenal team 50 times, they would probably win 49 of them but it was just one of those nights.

“Now there’s only one team standing between Bradford and Wembley – and two from Europe!

“It’s incredible really and they have won many fans up and down the country already. It’s going to be another cracking night tomorrow and there’s everything to play for.”

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1:29pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Solomon Grundy says...

I was at that game at Villa, and the week before against Man city, when John should never have been sent off. He was just getting into the game and we were starting to tear them up. Ormondroyd scored a cracker if I remember and even down to 10 men we should have won. 2 nil down and came back to get a draw. Great season. I think we had about 15 players in the squad that year.
I was at that game at Villa, and the week before against Man city, when John should never have been sent off. He was just getting into the game and we were starting to tear them up. Ormondroyd scored a cracker if I remember and even down to 10 men we should have won. 2 nil down and came back to get a draw. Great season. I think we had about 15 players in the squad that year. Solomon Grundy
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1:33pm Mon 7 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

Bent is now fit and might make the difference. He isn't as wasteful as gervinho. Might be blessing if the tie is killed off tomorrow as promotion is far more important.
Bent is now fit and might make the difference. He isn't as wasteful as gervinho. Might be blessing if the tie is killed off tomorrow as promotion is far more important. macca1969
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2:52pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

macca1969 wrote:
Bent is now fit and might make the difference. He isn't as wasteful as gervinho. Might be blessing if the tie is killed off tomorrow as promotion is far more important.
Is it too much to ask to enjoy our first cup semi final in about 100 years? It might not happen again.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Bent is now fit and might make the difference. He isn't as wasteful as gervinho. Might be blessing if the tie is killed off tomorrow as promotion is far more important.[/p][/quote]Is it too much to ask to enjoy our first cup semi final in about 100 years? It might not happen again. Thee Voice of Reason
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3:09pm Mon 7 Jan 13

340stopper says...

I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense.
What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !!
I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !! 340stopper
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3:43pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Solomon Grundy says...

Hendrie ran his blood to water for city for 4 years and it was only him and McCall that got us anywhere near the top that season.
Hendrie ran his blood to water for city for 4 years and it was only him and McCall that got us anywhere near the top that season. Solomon Grundy
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4:22pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

Yes, that season was rekindled in the last round for me, when I so dearly wanted Boro to defeat Swansea so we could finally get our revenge on them in the Semis. Instead, we get a two-legged tie against the Villa and, unlike my brother, I am desperate for the tie to still be alive for another fortnight.

If we still believe we have the squad to progress in the league, with a couple of additions in this month, surely, another 'distraction' shouldn't stop us claiming our 'prize'. Afterall, our form didn;t tail off in the lead up to Arsenal.

I predict a 2-4 loss tomorrow night, but then I did predict a 0-4 defeat against Arsenal. By that logic, we will probably win 3-1. No, pigs don't fly, but we can dream (no, not of pigs flying, ha)
Yes, that season was rekindled in the last round for me, when I so dearly wanted Boro to defeat Swansea so we could finally get our revenge on them in the Semis. Instead, we get a two-legged tie against the Villa and, unlike my brother, I am desperate for the tie to still be alive for another fortnight. If we still believe we have the squad to progress in the league, with a couple of additions in this month, surely, another 'distraction' shouldn't stop us claiming our 'prize'. Afterall, our form didn;t tail off in the lead up to Arsenal. I predict a 2-4 loss tomorrow night, but then I did predict a 0-4 defeat against Arsenal. By that logic, we will probably win 3-1. No, pigs don't fly, but we can dream (no, not of pigs flying, ha) Waynus1971
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4:37pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

In relation to the striker we are tracking, my understanding is that it is the Egyptian striker Mido. He is contracted to Barnsley and Keith Hill had agreed for him to join us before his sacking. As such, the move was held back until their new manager assessed whether he wanted to keep him or not. I believe he may have been seen training at City this morning.
In relation to the striker we are tracking, my understanding is that it is the Egyptian striker Mido. He is contracted to Barnsley and Keith Hill had agreed for him to join us before his sacking. As such, the move was held back until their new manager assessed whether he wanted to keep him or not. I believe he may have been seen training at City this morning. Waynus1971
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4:38pm Mon 7 Jan 13

lawsonio123 says...

Aston Villa are not Arsenal. They can be beaten.Pigs well they fly in disney land so Maybe they will fly at Valley Parade.GOOD LUCK CITY.
Aston Villa are not Arsenal. They can be beaten.Pigs well they fly in disney land so Maybe they will fly at Valley Parade.GOOD LUCK CITY. lawsonio123
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4:45pm Mon 7 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Yes, that season was rekindled in the last round for me, when I so dearly wanted Boro to defeat Swansea so we could finally get our revenge on them in the Semis. Instead, we get a two-legged tie against the Villa and, unlike my brother, I am desperate for the tie to still be alive for another fortnight.

If we still believe we have the squad to progress in the league, with a couple of additions in this month, surely, another 'distraction' shouldn't stop us claiming our 'prize'. Afterall, our form didn;t tail off in the lead up to Arsenal.

I predict a 2-4 loss tomorrow night, but then I did predict a 0-4 defeat against Arsenal. By that logic, we will probably win 3-1. No, pigs don't fly, but we can dream (no, not of pigs flying, ha)
Really dont understand the mentality of just bowing out of the cup so im with you Waynus. This would likely be thw only time in my lifetime that City get to a major final. City could create history that can never be taken away if we get to the final; we play league games every week and can still compete in the league every season. Would rather win silverware once in my lifetime than promotion this season.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Yes, that season was rekindled in the last round for me, when I so dearly wanted Boro to defeat Swansea so we could finally get our revenge on them in the Semis. Instead, we get a two-legged tie against the Villa and, unlike my brother, I am desperate for the tie to still be alive for another fortnight. If we still believe we have the squad to progress in the league, with a couple of additions in this month, surely, another 'distraction' shouldn't stop us claiming our 'prize'. Afterall, our form didn;t tail off in the lead up to Arsenal. I predict a 2-4 loss tomorrow night, but then I did predict a 0-4 defeat against Arsenal. By that logic, we will probably win 3-1. No, pigs don't fly, but we can dream (no, not of pigs flying, ha)[/p][/quote]Really dont understand the mentality of just bowing out of the cup so im with you Waynus. This would likely be thw only time in my lifetime that City get to a major final. City could create history that can never be taken away if we get to the final; we play league games every week and can still compete in the league every season. Would rather win silverware once in my lifetime than promotion this season. KnightMcCall
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4:47pm Mon 7 Jan 13

audal says...

Sorry to daydream and maybe bore some of our younger scribes(again) but as a lad i snook off work to stand in pouring rain whilst watching the impossible(what ?) City beat manchester United(who ?) one wed. afternoon, so much shame that the lancastrians refused to enter again. But more important to me was the previous season we went to Brighton and after a few minutes Geoff Smith got injured and the fantastic John McCole took over in goal whilst Smiffy laiked around 80 mins on the left wing and D.Jackson along with Derek Stokes ensured a trip to Preston(2-3). But the most endearing to all over the age of ???.was 1959-60.when over 20,000 went to Burnley from the area.so i say to all. sit back and enjoy the ride
Sorry to daydream and maybe bore some of our younger scribes(again) but as a lad i snook off work to stand in pouring rain whilst watching the impossible(what ?) City beat manchester United(who ?) one wed. afternoon, so much shame that the lancastrians refused to enter again. But more important to me was the previous season we went to Brighton and after a few minutes Geoff Smith got injured and the fantastic John McCole took over in goal whilst Smiffy laiked around 80 mins on the left wing and D.Jackson along with Derek Stokes ensured a trip to Preston(2-3). But the most endearing to all over the age of ???.was 1959-60.when over 20,000 went to Burnley from the area.so i say to all. sit back and enjoy the ride audal
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4:54pm Mon 7 Jan 13

bettyswollocks says...

340stopper wrote:
I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !!
He's stirred the fertilizer many times since his departure in '88 has Mr Hendrie. Most recently slating his ex-team mates and captains when they have been in charge of the club.

I remember him fondly for his exciting wing play and goalscoring but a lot of his comments are uncalled for.
[quote][p][bold]340stopper[/bold] wrote: I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !![/p][/quote]He's stirred the fertilizer many times since his departure in '88 has Mr Hendrie. Most recently slating his ex-team mates and captains when they have been in charge of the club. I remember him fondly for his exciting wing play and goalscoring but a lot of his comments are uncalled for. bettyswollocks
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5:11pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

bettyswollocks wrote:
340stopper wrote: I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !!
He's stirred the fertilizer many times since his departure in '88 has Mr Hendrie. Most recently slating his ex-team mates and captains when they have been in charge of the club. I remember him fondly for his exciting wing play and goalscoring but a lot of his comments are uncalled for.
A fantastic player but I also cannot 'forgive' his comments to me one day, shortly after leaving. It was a friendly/testimonial for someone and he had signed for Newcastle by then. I was sat right behind the dug-out and after the game he came over to sign autographs.

When asked if he could ever return, he said he wouldn't ever rule it out and hoped that he could come back once City had reached the top flight. Someone then asked if he would join Leeds (as speculation had started that he could leave Newcastle for them). He stated that he would never go to them after what their fans subjected him to, following the fire. Within months, he had left Newcastle and joined the 'enemy'....!

"Dont call me happy"? - more like, Don't call me honest!!!!
[quote][p][bold]bettyswollocks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]340stopper[/bold] wrote: I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !![/p][/quote]He's stirred the fertilizer many times since his departure in '88 has Mr Hendrie. Most recently slating his ex-team mates and captains when they have been in charge of the club. I remember him fondly for his exciting wing play and goalscoring but a lot of his comments are uncalled for.[/p][/quote]A fantastic player but I also cannot 'forgive' his comments to me one day, shortly after leaving. It was a friendly/testimonial for someone and he had signed for Newcastle by then. I was sat right behind the dug-out and after the game he came over to sign autographs. When asked if he could ever return, he said he wouldn't ever rule it out and hoped that he could come back once City had reached the top flight. Someone then asked if he would join Leeds (as speculation had started that he could leave Newcastle for them). He stated that he would never go to them after what their fans subjected him to, following the fire. Within months, he had left Newcastle and joined the 'enemy'....! "Dont call me happy"? - more like, Don't call me honest!!!! Waynus1971
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5:18pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Pablo says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Yes, that season was rekindled in the last round for me, when I so dearly wanted Boro to defeat Swansea so we could finally get our revenge on them in the Semis. Instead, we get a two-legged tie against the Villa and, unlike my brother, I am desperate for the tie to still be alive for another fortnight.

If we still believe we have the squad to progress in the league, with a couple of additions in this month, surely, another 'distraction' shouldn't stop us claiming our 'prize'. Afterall, our form didn;t tail off in the lead up to Arsenal.

I predict a 2-4 loss tomorrow night, but then I did predict a 0-4 defeat against Arsenal. By that logic, we will probably win 3-1. No, pigs don't fly, but we can dream (no, not of pigs flying, ha)
Really dont understand the mentality of just bowing out of the cup so im with you Waynus. This would likely be thw only time in my lifetime that City get to a major final. City could create history that can never be taken away if we get to the final; we play league games every week and can still compete in the league every season. Would rather win silverware once in my lifetime than promotion this season.
Agreed. There's no guarantee that being able to concentrate on the league will result in promotion anyway. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to get to Wembley in a major cup competition and must give 100%, otherwise the players will be cheating the fans, cup sponsors and themselves.

It's been suggested PP was experimenting against Morecambe and Barnet, in anticipation of using the same formation against Villa. We gave as good as we got for at least 70 minutes against Arsenal. The tactics in the Morecambe/Barnet games failed, so let's revert to type and start with a recognised winger (Reid) and give it a real go.

I understand Hanson is doubtful for tomorrow and, if he is missing, that would be a blow because we'll need his aerial power as we don't have a successful alternative to the style we play when he's in the side.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Yes, that season was rekindled in the last round for me, when I so dearly wanted Boro to defeat Swansea so we could finally get our revenge on them in the Semis. Instead, we get a two-legged tie against the Villa and, unlike my brother, I am desperate for the tie to still be alive for another fortnight. If we still believe we have the squad to progress in the league, with a couple of additions in this month, surely, another 'distraction' shouldn't stop us claiming our 'prize'. Afterall, our form didn;t tail off in the lead up to Arsenal. I predict a 2-4 loss tomorrow night, but then I did predict a 0-4 defeat against Arsenal. By that logic, we will probably win 3-1. No, pigs don't fly, but we can dream (no, not of pigs flying, ha)[/p][/quote]Really dont understand the mentality of just bowing out of the cup so im with you Waynus. This would likely be thw only time in my lifetime that City get to a major final. City could create history that can never be taken away if we get to the final; we play league games every week and can still compete in the league every season. Would rather win silverware once in my lifetime than promotion this season.[/p][/quote]Agreed. There's no guarantee that being able to concentrate on the league will result in promotion anyway. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to get to Wembley in a major cup competition and must give 100%, otherwise the players will be cheating the fans, cup sponsors and themselves. It's been suggested PP was experimenting against Morecambe and Barnet, in anticipation of using the same formation against Villa. We gave as good as we got for at least 70 minutes against Arsenal. The tactics in the Morecambe/Barnet games failed, so let's revert to type and start with a recognised winger (Reid) and give it a real go. I understand Hanson is doubtful for tomorrow and, if he is missing, that would be a blow because we'll need his aerial power as we don't have a successful alternative to the style we play when he's in the side. Pablo
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5:44pm Mon 7 Jan 13

nowt fresh says...

On the day there was very little in the score line but they were a far more physical team than us and on the day they put them selves about as all Graham Taylor teams were, we tried to play our usual football game.

Nigel Spink
Steve Sims, Allan Evans, Kevin Gage,
Bernard Gallacher,
Warren Aspinall, Andy A Gray,David Platt, Stuart Gray
Alan McInally, Garry Thompson
some handy lads in defence and two big lads upfront who could lets say "look after themselves",even after losing at home to Ipswich we should have beaten Boro over two legs, but as John says the thing that let us down was Jack Tordoff not giving Dolan the funds to bye Keith Curle and Andy Townsend who had torn us to bits for Southampton in the "Simod Cup" a season or so before although we beat them 1-0.
On the day there was very little in the score line but they were a far more physical team than us and on the day they put them selves about as all Graham Taylor teams were, we tried to play our usual football game. Nigel Spink Steve Sims, Allan Evans, Kevin Gage, Bernard Gallacher, Warren Aspinall, Andy A Gray,David Platt, Stuart Gray Alan McInally, Garry Thompson some handy lads in defence and two big lads upfront who could lets say "look after themselves",even after losing at home to Ipswich we should have beaten Boro over two legs, but as John says the thing that let us down was Jack Tordoff not giving Dolan the funds to bye Keith Curle and Andy Townsend who had torn us to bits for Southampton in the "Simod Cup" a season or so before although we beat them 1-0. nowt fresh
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6:34pm Mon 7 Jan 13

settler07 says...

Super john hendrie. Only player for me that relegates Stuart McCall to number 2 in city legend status. Worth the entrance money alone to watch him play.....a privilege to have watched his time at city.
Am i right in saying he never got capped by scotland? What a travesty that is!
Super john hendrie. Only player for me that relegates Stuart McCall to number 2 in city legend status. Worth the entrance money alone to watch him play.....a privilege to have watched his time at city. Am i right in saying he never got capped by scotland? What a travesty that is! settler07
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7:02pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Freddy says...

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audal says...
4:47pm Mon 7 Jan 13

* Gosh --Audal--I skipped school that Wednesday to witness City beat Man.U I think 3-1.
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The Players you mention--I was with in 1960 !!!!!. All our yesterdays again.
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My memory is weakening--but was this match at Villa in the Article above--The one City lost 3-0. But we enjoyed the Convoy of Coaches to Birmingham--with Police M/Cycle escort to and from Villa's Ground--through ALL the red traffic lights.
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* audal says... 4:47pm Mon 7 Jan 13 * Gosh --Audal--I skipped school that Wednesday to witness City beat Man.U I think 3-1. * The Players you mention--I was with in 1960 !!!!!. All our yesterdays again. * My memory is weakening--but was this match at Villa in the Article above--The one City lost 3-0. But we enjoyed the Convoy of Coaches to Birmingham--with Police M/Cycle escort to and from Villa's Ground--through ALL the red traffic lights. * Freddy
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8:22pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Victor Clayton says...

Solomon Grundy wrote:
I was at that game at Villa, and the week before against Man city, when John should never have been sent off. He was just getting into the game and we were starting to tear them up. Ormondroyd scored a cracker if I remember and even down to 10 men we should have won. 2 nil down and came back to get a draw. Great season. I think we had about 15 players in the squad that year.
was that when he just kind of run into their keeper to slow himself down? joke decision by ref.
[quote][p][bold]Solomon Grundy[/bold] wrote: I was at that game at Villa, and the week before against Man city, when John should never have been sent off. He was just getting into the game and we were starting to tear them up. Ormondroyd scored a cracker if I remember and even down to 10 men we should have won. 2 nil down and came back to get a draw. Great season. I think we had about 15 players in the squad that year.[/p][/quote]was that when he just kind of run into their keeper to slow himself down? joke decision by ref. Victor Clayton
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9:37pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Wrose bantam says...

In my eyes , John was the best winger (Maybe apart from the short time Waddle played for us) who wore a city shirt. I remember in our promotion season that he started off being marked by one full back. As the season went on, it regularly became a full back and a midfielder as teams doubled up on him. In some games he'd beat 3 opponents. He could score too and make goals.

I will never blame JH for what he may or may not have said or for who he may have played for. Footballers sometimes do not have total control over where they are transferred. When he played for City he gave 100%.

Both Mc Call and Hendrie would have stayed with us if we went up to the 1st Division in my eyes.
In my eyes , John was the best winger (Maybe apart from the short time Waddle played for us) who wore a city shirt. I remember in our promotion season that he started off being marked by one full back. As the season went on, it regularly became a full back and a midfielder as teams doubled up on him. In some games he'd beat 3 opponents. He could score too and make goals. I will never blame JH for what he may or may not have said or for who he may have played for. Footballers sometimes do not have total control over where they are transferred. When he played for City he gave 100%. Both Mc Call and Hendrie would have stayed with us if we went up to the 1st Division in my eyes. Wrose bantam
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10:17pm Mon 7 Jan 13

flashman says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
In relation to the striker we are tracking, my understanding is that it is the Egyptian striker Mido. He is contracted to Barnsley and Keith Hill had agreed for him to join us before his sacking. As such, the move was held back until their new manager assessed whether he wanted to keep him or not. I believe he may have been seen training at City this morning.
Mido has played 30 mins since rupturing his hamstring is he fit ?? Surely there must me someone better - but who ? IMO Even though we have money from the cup run it seems we are trying to get someone in on the cheap. Wallets out and we may just get promoted. Short arms and long pockets and the cup heroics will soon be forgotten.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: In relation to the striker we are tracking, my understanding is that it is the Egyptian striker Mido. He is contracted to Barnsley and Keith Hill had agreed for him to join us before his sacking. As such, the move was held back until their new manager assessed whether he wanted to keep him or not. I believe he may have been seen training at City this morning.[/p][/quote]Mido has played 30 mins since rupturing his hamstring is he fit ?? Surely there must me someone better - but who ? IMO Even though we have money from the cup run it seems we are trying to get someone in on the cheap. Wallets out and we may just get promoted. Short arms and long pockets and the cup heroics will soon be forgotten. flashman
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11:21pm Mon 7 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Bent is now fit and might make the difference. He isn't as wasteful as gervinho. Might be blessing if the tie is killed off tomorrow as promotion is far more important.
Is it too much to ask to enjoy our first cup semi final in about 100 years? It might not happen again.
Don't get me wrong I will enjoy it as I did arsenal,Wigan and Burton. I will want us to win but not at the cost of promotion. That has to be the biggest prize this season surely. If not how many would take a Wembley final now against chelsea at the expense of promotion? Yes league matches come thick and fast but how many points have been lost recently. Had we gone out against Wigan or Arsenal would the players have been fresher? Would we not be sat higher in the league? I suppose we will never know as football isn't straight lines. I want city to play well tomorrow night and if we are successful then I will be delighted, should we lose then I won't be disappointed as the lads have already done us proud and then we can get our heads down to enjoy the business end of the season.
Thing that worries me is if we make the final and we become distracted and our league form falters then parky will be the fall guy. Mark my words some on here as well as a certain family member of mine were already sharpening the knives on Saturday after just a small blip. This is the Bradford city fans mentality, win tomorrow lose on Saturday and the manager will be a fool, so imo better to lose the tie and win the league as winning the cup and finishing tenth will not be deemed good enough by some fans. Enjoy the game everyone, as no matter what happens this will be a great occasion :)
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Bent is now fit and might make the difference. He isn't as wasteful as gervinho. Might be blessing if the tie is killed off tomorrow as promotion is far more important.[/p][/quote]Is it too much to ask to enjoy our first cup semi final in about 100 years? It might not happen again.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong I will enjoy it as I did arsenal,Wigan and Burton. I will want us to win but not at the cost of promotion. That has to be the biggest prize this season surely. If not how many would take a Wembley final now against chelsea at the expense of promotion? Yes league matches come thick and fast but how many points have been lost recently. Had we gone out against Wigan or Arsenal would the players have been fresher? Would we not be sat higher in the league? I suppose we will never know as football isn't straight lines. I want city to play well tomorrow night and if we are successful then I will be delighted, should we lose then I won't be disappointed as the lads have already done us proud and then we can get our heads down to enjoy the business end of the season. Thing that worries me is if we make the final and we become distracted and our league form falters then parky will be the fall guy. Mark my words some on here as well as a certain family member of mine were already sharpening the knives on Saturday after just a small blip. This is the Bradford city fans mentality, win tomorrow lose on Saturday and the manager will be a fool, so imo better to lose the tie and win the league as winning the cup and finishing tenth will not be deemed good enough by some fans. Enjoy the game everyone, as no matter what happens this will be a great occasion :) macca1969
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12:24am Tue 8 Jan 13

shoesmaker4 says...

good look to the lads tomorrow and to a great result to ,its a leval playing feild and for villa to win thay still have to score carnt wait for the game most of the country must be rooting for us as underdogs good look phill and the boys come on city ,
good look to the lads tomorrow and to a great result to ,its a leval playing feild and for villa to win thay still have to score carnt wait for the game most of the country must be rooting for us as underdogs good look phill and the boys come on city , shoesmaker4
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12:25am Tue 8 Jan 13

Bradford1903 says...

I think the most important thing is not to get beat.

Must admit I was disappointed to see some of their senior players return at the weekend, in Agbonlahor and Bent, the latter to me is one of the best finishers in the premiership.

They are still pretty inexperienced in other areas, so if we can at least be level going into the 2nd leg, and not concede an early goal, the crowd will get impatient, their players will hopefully get anxious, and start to feel the pressure.

I've read that Hanson is doubtful for the game, and he has obviously been going through a barren spell of late, but it won't have been very often that the likes of Herd and Baker, have come up against someone with the aerial and physical threat that he poses.
I think the most important thing is not to get beat. Must admit I was disappointed to see some of their senior players return at the weekend, in Agbonlahor and Bent, the latter to me is one of the best finishers in the premiership. They are still pretty inexperienced in other areas, so if we can at least be level going into the 2nd leg, and not concede an early goal, the crowd will get impatient, their players will hopefully get anxious, and start to feel the pressure. I've read that Hanson is doubtful for the game, and he has obviously been going through a barren spell of late, but it won't have been very often that the likes of Herd and Baker, have come up against someone with the aerial and physical threat that he poses. Bradford1903
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1:33am Tue 8 Jan 13

TirNaNog says...

I wasn't aware that the Cup final and promotion were mutually exclusive!
I wasn't aware that the Cup final and promotion were mutually exclusive! TirNaNog
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7:45am Tue 8 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

TirNaNog wrote:
I wasn't aware that the Cup final and promotion were mutually exclusive!
That's not what I am saying fella. The club and management have stated promotion is this seasons aim. Should we even win the cup,but fail in our main ambitions then some on here will see it as failure and demand PP to go. Look at the postings already on Saturday if you don't believe me
[quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: I wasn't aware that the Cup final and promotion were mutually exclusive![/p][/quote]That's not what I am saying fella. The club and management have stated promotion is this seasons aim. Should we even win the cup,but fail in our main ambitions then some on here will see it as failure and demand PP to go. Look at the postings already on Saturday if you don't believe me macca1969
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9:35am Tue 8 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Being knocked out of the cups early round in previous seasons hasn't exactly worked in our favour.
Being knocked out of the cups early round in previous seasons hasn't exactly worked in our favour. Thee Voice of Reason
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10:38am Tue 8 Jan 13

Peter300 says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
bettyswollocks wrote:
340stopper wrote: I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !!
He's stirred the fertilizer many times since his departure in '88 has Mr Hendrie. Most recently slating his ex-team mates and captains when they have been in charge of the club. I remember him fondly for his exciting wing play and goalscoring but a lot of his comments are uncalled for.
A fantastic player but I also cannot 'forgive' his comments to me one day, shortly after leaving. It was a friendly/testimonial for someone and he had signed for Newcastle by then. I was sat right behind the dug-out and after the game he came over to sign autographs. When asked if he could ever return, he said he wouldn't ever rule it out and hoped that he could come back once City had reached the top flight. Someone then asked if he would join Leeds (as speculation had started that he could leave Newcastle for them). He stated that he would never go to them after what their fans subjected him to, following the fire. Within months, he had left Newcastle and joined the 'enemy'....! "Dont call me happy"? - more like, Don't call me honest!!!!
Who did you run and tell? How many shandies do you think he'd had? You must have counted them.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bettyswollocks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]340stopper[/bold] wrote: I went to both the games against Middlesborough, at Ayresome park and if i remember correctly we lost 2-0 as a result of two diagonal balls over our defense. What infuriated me at the time was Hendrie's ALLEGED laughing remark that he was not bothered anyway as he was moving on !![/p][/quote]He's stirred the fertilizer many times since his departure in '88 has Mr Hendrie. Most recently slating his ex-team mates and captains when they have been in charge of the club. I remember him fondly for his exciting wing play and goalscoring but a lot of his comments are uncalled for.[/p][/quote]A fantastic player but I also cannot 'forgive' his comments to me one day, shortly after leaving. It was a friendly/testimonial for someone and he had signed for Newcastle by then. I was sat right behind the dug-out and after the game he came over to sign autographs. When asked if he could ever return, he said he wouldn't ever rule it out and hoped that he could come back once City had reached the top flight. Someone then asked if he would join Leeds (as speculation had started that he could leave Newcastle for them). He stated that he would never go to them after what their fans subjected him to, following the fire. Within months, he had left Newcastle and joined the 'enemy'....! "Dont call me happy"? - more like, Don't call me honest!!!![/p][/quote]Who did you run and tell? How many shandies do you think he'd had? You must have counted them. Peter300
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11:00am Tue 8 Jan 13

Whoisevans? says...

Come on City we owe them a beating seen many games against Villa, I went to the game in 88 still hurts when I think of the way we missed out on top flight football that season. The one Merson scored against us at home springs to mind. This is a young Villa side and an early goal from City could get them rattled and nervy.
Come on City we owe them a beating seen many games against Villa, I went to the game in 88 still hurts when I think of the way we missed out on top flight football that season. The one Merson scored against us at home springs to mind. This is a young Villa side and an early goal from City could get them rattled and nervy. Whoisevans?
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