Live blog: Morecambe v City (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

not a bad draw from the lads all in all although droped a few places today probley saving some of the lads for villa game coming up a bit of a worry though with all the chances we had that carnt score i think we will have to had to team to get over the line and into league one if im honest carnt wait for the villa game and hope we get a great result to also no goals against us today is good to come on city

2 points from 9.

Automatic becoming more elusive by the week.

The starting line up had a "safety first" look about it. A reasonable performance by all accounts, but any team with promotion aspirations should be looking for maximum points from a fixture like this.

I'm not sure that PP knows what to do with Connell. As an experienced striker, you'd have expected him to start today, in the absence of Wells. Hines continues to blow hot and cold, with what appeared to be another disinterested performance, according to the radio commentators. Why are individuals who are incapable of producing consistency, still being given opportunities by the manager?

The January transfer window will hopefully address this issue.

RuggerTyke wrote:
2 points from 9.

Automatic becoming more elusive by the week.

How do you get 2 points from 9! Did the Accrington game pass you by?

We need to look for a replacement for Hanson he's had ample chances and we won't get automatic if we stick with him, Connell scores 3 in 2 and get MOM in last game and gets dropped, does Hanson have something in his contract?

yorkbantam73 wrote:

RuggerTyke wrote:
2 points from 9.

Automatic becoming more elusive by the week.

How do you get 2 points from 9! Did the Accrington game pass you by?

We need to look for a replacement for Hanson he's had ample chances and we won't get automatic if we stick with him, Connell scores 3 in 2 and get MOM in last game and gets dropped, does Hanson have something in his contract?

Aye, my bad.

Pablo wrote:
The starting line up had a "safety first" look about it. A reasonable performance by all accounts, but any team with promotion aspirations should be looking for maximum points from a fixture like this.

I'm not sure that PP knows what to do with Connell. As an experienced striker, you'd have expected him to start today, in the absence of Wells. Hines continues to blow hot and cold, with what appeared to be another disinterested performance, according to the radio commentators. Why are individuals who are incapable of producing consistency, still being given opportunities by the manager?

The January transfer window will hopefully address this issue.

I think at the start of the season first choice was hanson and Connell . so was a bit surprised to see Connell so far down the pecking order when wells was unfit . has PPs opinion of him lessened?

A very workman like performance but things just not clicking for us at the moment. Not too much wrong so nothing to be too worried about, but I am concerned about Hanson. Stevie wonder could have scored that header and I'm positive if it had fallen to any other city player it would have resulted in a goal. He worked hard again for the team but really needs to nail that sort of chance

When is that most stupid rule of players having to leave the field going to be interpreted correctly by referees or got rid of altogether? I am referring of course to when a player is fouled, injured, and the offender is booked but the injured player has to leave the field because he has received treatment. We had Wells have to leave the field which put us down to 10 men when Threlfall was booked for clattering him. It's nonsensical to handicap the offended team when the free-kick was going to be put into the area where Wells should have been. Plus, this stupid rule doesn't apply to goal-keepers, they don't have to leave the field when they have received treatment so it is not only a nonsense way to deal with an obviously injured player (especially when the offender is booked for the foul against him) but it is also inconsistent in its application. This stupid, stupid application of this rule drives me nuts!

lonniejockstrap wrote:
When is that most stupid rule of players having to leave the field going to be interpreted correctly by referees or got rid of altogether? I am referring of course to when a player is fouled, injured, and the offender is booked but the injured player has to leave the field because he has received treatment. We had Wells have to leave the field which put us down to 10 men when Threlfall was booked for clattering him. It's nonsensical to handicap the offended team when the free-kick was going to be put into the area where Wells should have been. Plus, this stupid rule doesn't apply to goal-keepers, they don't have to leave the field when they have received treatment so it is not only a nonsense way to deal with an obviously injured player (especially when the offender is booked for the foul against him) but it is also inconsistent in its application. This stupid, stupid application of this rule drives me nuts!

I totally agree Lonnie, they is a few laws of the game that need addressing.

New striker desperately needed to complement wells, connell and Hanson. For me, wells and Connell to start at Barnet, save Hanson to bully villa.

We should have won today, but again Hanson not clinical enough in front of goal. Hopefully a bit of extra heading and target practice in the 18 yard box will be on the cards for the big man.

mikey1979 wrote:
New striker desperately needed to complement wells, connell and Hanson. For me, wells and Connell to start at Barnet, save Hanson to bully villa.

We should have won today, but again Hanson not clinical enough in front of goal. Hopefully a bit of extra heading and target practice in the 18 yard box will be on the cards for the big man.

He's had 4 years practice and he gets no better, his goals to game minute ratio is appalling, what Connell has to do to warrant a run of games I don't know!

I appreciate he bullies teams and gives them a few headaches but teams are getting wise to this now, Rochdale just doubled up on him and took him out of the game, he's no strength in his neck at all, his flick on's are generally aimless and he has no positional sense!

We need a Paul Benson type to take the pressure off other players, he would have buried that chance today and that's the difference between going up or not!

Will he drop Hanson on Saturday? I doubt it!

This match should have been won.City are having a run of form that will not bring Promotion. However all teams have such a Blip during a season and hopefully this is the case with City.I am sure Mr Parkinson will get the team Winning again so come on City onword to Division One Keep the Faith

yorkbantam73 wrote:

mikey1979 wrote:
New striker desperately needed to complement wells, connell and Hanson. For me, wells and Connell to start at Barnet, save Hanson to bully villa.

We should have won today, but again Hanson not clinical enough in front of goal. Hopefully a bit of extra heading and target practice in the 18 yard box will be on the cards for the big man.

He's had 4 years practice and he gets no better, his goals to game minute ratio is appalling, what Connell has to do to warrant a run of games I don't know!

I appreciate he bullies teams and gives them a few headaches but teams are getting wise to this now, Rochdale just doubled up on him and took him out of the game, he's no strength in his neck at all, his flick on's are generally aimless and he has no positional sense!

We need a Paul Benson type to take the pressure off other players, he would have buried that chance today and that's the difference between going up or not!

Will he drop Hanson on Saturday? I doubt it!

I doubt it too and unfortunately the system we are playing relies on clinical finishing .

We're still three points off automatic so with new blood coming in, it sets BCFC up nicely for the last 21 games. It'll be interesting to see who Parky brings in...exciting times. Sounded a great vocal backing from the BCFC fans today..an extra home game from the volume coming through loud and clear on the Pulse. Regarding lonnies point regarding players going off injured due to a foul deemed a yellow card offence...wouldn't it be an idea to have the culprit off til either the player injured comes back on or if he is so badly injured he can't carry on the culprit comes back on with the substitute...don't know if i've thought it through but it seems straight forward to me.

macca1969 wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:
When is that most stupid rule of players having to leave the field going to be interpreted correctly by referees or got rid of altogether? I am referring of course to when a player is fouled, injured, and the offender is booked but the injured player has to leave the field because he has received treatment. We had Wells have to leave the field which put us down to 10 men when Threlfall was booked for clattering him. It's nonsensical to handicap the offended team when the free-kick was going to be put into the area where Wells should have been. Plus, this stupid rule doesn't apply to goal-keepers, they don't have to leave the field when they have received treatment so it is not only a nonsense way to deal with an obviously injured player (especially when the offender is booked for the foul against him) but it is also inconsistent in its application. This stupid, stupid application of this rule drives me nuts!

I totally agree Lonnie, they is a few laws of the game that need addressing.

agree also. And what about the legal time wasting tactics given to goalkeepers. Another great FIFA change NOT.

I refer to goalkeepers being allowed to take the goal kick from either side irrespective of where the ball went out. This can waste 20/30 seconds per goal kick. ( and sometimes more)

Has anyone calculated the amount of time wasted in a game?

macca1969 wrote:
A very workman like performance but things just not clicking for us at the moment. Not too much wrong so nothing to be too worried about, but I am concerned about Hanson. Stevie wonder could have scored that header and I'm positive if it had fallen to any other city player it would have resulted in a goal. He worked hard again for the team but really needs to nail that sort of chance

and Connell would have scored it.

I cannot work Parky out at present. He talks about a backlash against Morecambe and then sets out a fairly conservative team. He says Hanson is a battering ram . But he does not score goals. Connell has scored goals, his movement is better and, at present, poses more of a threat in the air than Hanson for crosses yet he gets dropped and sits out the whole game. Parky what is going on?

Paky clearly

where did that last comment come from

Victor Clayton wrote:

yorkbantam73 wrote:

mikey1979 wrote:
New striker desperately needed to complement wells, connell and Hanson. For me, wells and Connell to start at Barnet, save Hanson to bully villa.

We should have won today, but again Hanson not clinical enough in front of goal. Hopefully a bit of extra heading and target practice in the 18 yard box will be on the cards for the big man.

He's had 4 years practice and he gets no better, his goals to game minute ratio is appalling, what Connell has to do to warrant a run of games I don't know!

I appreciate he bullies teams and gives them a few headaches but teams are getting wise to this now, Rochdale just doubled up on him and took him out of the game, he's no strength in his neck at all, his flick on's are generally aimless and he has no positional sense!

We need a Paul Benson type to take the pressure off other players, he would have buried that chance today and that's the difference between going up or not!

Will he drop Hanson on Saturday? I doubt it!

I doubt it too and unfortunately the system we are playing relies on clinical finishing .

Why the hell would he drop Hanson? To give us no aerial presence in the box?

Would love to know which football formation doesn't rely on clinical finishing...

tyker2 wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
A very workman like performance but things just not clicking for us at the moment. Not too much wrong so nothing to be too worried about, but I am concerned about Hanson. Stevie wonder could have scored that header and I'm positive if it had fallen to any other city player it would have resulted in a goal. He worked hard again for the team but really needs to nail that sort of chance

and Connell would have scored it.

I cannot work Parky out at present. He talks about a backlash against Morecambe and then sets out a fairly conservative team. He says Hanson is a battering ram . But he does not score goals. Connell has scored goals, his movement is better and, at present, poses more of a threat in the air than Hanson for crosses yet he gets dropped and sits out the whole game. Parky what is going on?

Paky clearly

Are you on drugs? You think Connell carries more threat in the air than Hanson? Connell's goals have come mainly from the penalty spot with one header scored this season. Connell is a foil for a big man or can play "in the hole". He does not have the pace that Wells or Hines has so will struggle in away games if we are playing on the break.

Hanson should have scored more goals this season but he is a valuable asset. In truth, it is the lack of goals for the team that is an issue and not the lack of goals from one player. Wells is the main goalscorer and has delivered a good return so far. If midfield were chipping in with a few more then we would be doing better. PP knows what he is doing so leave it to the experts.

KnightMcCall wrote:

tyker2 wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
A very workman like performance but things just not clicking for us at the moment. Not too much wrong so nothing to be too worried about, but I am concerned about Hanson. Stevie wonder could have scored that header and I'm positive if it had fallen to any other city player it would have resulted in a goal. He worked hard again for the team but really needs to nail that sort of chance

and Connell would have scored it.

I cannot work Parky out at present. He talks about a backlash against Morecambe and then sets out a fairly conservative team. He says Hanson is a battering ram . But he does not score goals. Connell has scored goals, his movement is better and, at present, poses more of a threat in the air than Hanson for crosses yet he gets dropped and sits out the whole game. Parky what is going on?

Paky clearly

Are you on drugs? You think Connell carries more threat in the air than Hanson? Connell's goals have come mainly from the penalty spot with one header scored this season. Connell is a foil for a big man or can play "in the hole". He does not have the pace that Wells or Hines has so will struggle in away games if we are playing on the break.

Hanson should have scored more goals this season but he is a valuable asset. In truth, it is the lack of goals for the team that is an issue and not the lack of goals from one player. Wells is the main goalscorer and has delivered a good return so far. If midfield were chipping in with a few more then we would be doing better. PP knows what he is doing so leave it to the experts.

funnily enough:yes I am!! prescribed for bronchitis and blocked tubes. Perhaps without Hanson we will start to play the ball on the deck . Connell is more than adeqate

in truth i think that we are very close to being a very good team , all in all when we play other than against rochdale we seem very good at the back but to me we just old on and just get through ,we are also still in a very good place in the table but need to get better on the goals front to get out of this league, i would stick with james as he puts himself about on the pitch but need more goals from some where to kill teames of come on city

tyker2 wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

tyker2 wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
A very workman like performance but things just not clicking for us at the moment. Not too much wrong so nothing to be too worried about, but I am concerned about Hanson. Stevie wonder could have scored that header and I'm positive if it had fallen to any other city player it would have resulted in a goal. He worked hard again for the team but really needs to nail that sort of chance

and Connell would have scored it.

I cannot work Parky out at present. He talks about a backlash against Morecambe and then sets out a fairly conservative team. He says Hanson is a battering ram . But he does not score goals. Connell has scored goals, his movement is better and, at present, poses more of a threat in the air than Hanson for crosses yet he gets dropped and sits out the whole game. Parky what is going on?

Paky clearly

Are you on drugs? You think Connell carries more threat in the air than Hanson? Connell's goals have come mainly from the penalty spot with one header scored this season. Connell is a foil for a big man or can play "in the hole". He does not have the pace that Wells or Hines has so will struggle in away games if we are playing on the break.

Hanson should have scored more goals this season but he is a valuable asset. In truth, it is the lack of goals for the team that is an issue and not the lack of goals from one player. Wells is the main goalscorer and has delivered a good return so far. If midfield were chipping in with a few more then we would be doing better. PP knows what he is doing so leave it to the experts.

funnily enough:yes I am!! prescribed for bronchitis and blocked tubes. Perhaps without Hanson we will start to play the ball on the deck . Connell is more than adeqate

There is no point in trying to have a reasoned debate with posters like KM. He sees what he wants to see and ignores the parts that others see.

For example, Hanson will flick on around 90% of the ball played up to him. However, how many of those headers are either played into space for his attacking team-mates to latch onto? How many times do his headers go straight to the defending team? Most if the time, the ball skids off his head and goes nowhere near where Wells or Connell are running.

A few weeks back, people like KM were claiming Hanson's record in front if goal was down to not getting crosses of any decent quality, yet he has had lots on a plate, especially in recent weeks.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Hanson is a better centre forward than Luke Oliver.... but there isn't much in it to be fair. Both work hard in the role, both win lots of headers, both make defenders have to work hard, both make clearances when they come back to defend set-pieces but neither are clinical with the chances they do get.

I really hope we attract someone in the ilk of Akinfenwa or Benson. Someone who has intelligence in their game as well as the ability to win headers

KnightMcCall wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

yorkbantam73 wrote:

mikey1979 wrote: New striker desperately needed to complement wells, connell and Hanson. For me, wells and Connell to start at Barnet, save Hanson to bully villa. We should have won today, but again Hanson not clinical enough in front of goal. Hopefully a bit of extra heading and target practice in the 18 yard box will be on the cards for the big man.

He's had 4 years practice and he gets no better, his goals to game minute ratio is appalling, what Connell has to do to warrant a run of games I don't know! I appreciate he bullies teams and gives them a few headaches but teams are getting wise to this now, Rochdale just doubled up on him and took him out of the game, he's no strength in his neck at all, his flick on's are generally aimless and he has no positional sense! We need a Paul Benson type to take the pressure off other players, he would have buried that chance today and that's the difference between going up or not! Will he drop Hanson on Saturday? I doubt it!

I doubt it too and unfortunately the system we are playing relies on clinical finishing .

Why the hell would he drop Hanson? To give us no aerial presence in the box? Would love to know which football formation doesn't rely on clinical finishing...

For example. Against Accrington Hanson went out to the touch line to collect the ball. He controlled it, held it up until support arrived and the result was a cross into the box. However Hines apart (who was playing striker) there was not one other City play in the box.. Possibly 3 players could have joined Hines, but they didn’t and the good play was wasted.
You can argue the merits of different styles but it seems to me that with ours is defensive. the odds are we wont get many chances and therefore you can not waste to much. In other words you need to be more clinical. a style where a team floods the box don't, in my opinion doesn't need to be as clinical because they will create more chances.

KnightMcCall wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

yorkbantam73 wrote:

mikey1979 wrote:
New striker desperately needed to complement wells, connell and Hanson. For me, wells and Connell to start at Barnet, save Hanson to bully villa.

We should have won today, but again Hanson not clinical enough in front of goal. Hopefully a bit of extra heading and target practice in the 18 yard box will be on the cards for the big man.

He's had 4 years practice and he gets no better, his goals to game minute ratio is appalling, what Connell has to do to warrant a run of games I don't know!

I appreciate he bullies teams and gives them a few headaches but teams are getting wise to this now, Rochdale just doubled up on him and took him out of the game, he's no strength in his neck at all, his flick on's are generally aimless and he has no positional sense!

We need a Paul Benson type to take the pressure off other players, he would have buried that chance today and that's the difference between going up or not!

Will he drop Hanson on Saturday? I doubt it!

I doubt it too and unfortunately the system we are playing relies on clinical finishing .

Why the hell would he drop Hanson? To give us no aerial presence in the box?

Would love to know which football formation doesn't rely on clinical finishing...

Is that the aerial presence that keeps missing from 6 yards out in-challenged?

Torquay he hit the bar from 6 yards out when easier to score, Rochdale he headed straight into ground when 6 yards out again un-challenged and Morecambe missed with keeper to beat 6 yards out!

That's some aerial presence! He's constantly fouling in the box because he's the wrong side of his man or his positional sense is poor. I appreciate what he gives us but it won't get us out of this league I'm afraid we need another finisher and its not Hanson!

Waynus1971 wrote:

tyker2 wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

tyker2 wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
A very workman like performance but things just not clicking for us at the moment. Not too much wrong so nothing to be too worried about, but I am concerned about Hanson. Stevie wonder could have scored that header and I'm positive if it had fallen to any other city player it would have resulted in a goal. He worked hard again for the team but really needs to nail that sort of chance

and Connell would have scored it.

I cannot work Parky out at present. He talks about a backlash against Morecambe and then sets out a fairly conservative team. He says Hanson is a battering ram . But he does not score goals. Connell has scored goals, his movement is better and, at present, poses more of a threat in the air than Hanson for crosses yet he gets dropped and sits out the whole game. Parky what is going on?

Paky clearly

Are you on drugs? You think Connell carries more threat in the air than Hanson? Connell's goals have come mainly from the penalty spot with one header scored this season. Connell is a foil for a big man or can play "in the hole". He does not have the pace that Wells or Hines has so will struggle in away games if we are playing on the break.

Hanson should have scored more goals this season but he is a valuable asset. In truth, it is the lack of goals for the team that is an issue and not the lack of goals from one player. Wells is the main goalscorer and has delivered a good return so far. If midfield were chipping in with a few more then we would be doing better. PP knows what he is doing so leave it to the experts.

funnily enough:yes I am!! prescribed for bronchitis and blocked tubes. Perhaps without Hanson we will start to play the ball on the deck . Connell is more than adeqate

There is no point in trying to have a reasoned debate with posters like KM. He sees what he wants to see and ignores the parts that others see.

For example, Hanson will flick on around 90% of the ball played up to him. However, how many of those headers are either played into space for his attacking team-mates to latch onto? How many times do his headers go straight to the defending team? Most if the time, the ball skids off his head and goes nowhere near where Wells or Connell are running.

A few weeks back, people like KM were claiming Hanson's record in front if goal was down to not getting crosses of any decent quality, yet he has had lots on a plate, especially in recent weeks.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Hanson is a better centre forward than Luke Oliver.... but there isn't much in it to be fair. Both work hard in the role, both win lots of headers, both make defenders have to work hard, both make clearances when they come back to defend set-pieces but neither are clinical with the chances they do get.

I really hope we attract someone in the ilk of Akinfenwa or Benson. Someone who has intelligence in their game as well as the ability to win headers

That is the funniest thing i have ever read. Waynus accusing anyone of "only seeing what they want to see".

One of us saw that PP was building something better last season, one of us thought Atkinson showed some talent and needed some games, one of us thinks Hannah should leave...whereas one of us thought Omar Daley deserved to be a pro-footballer and thinks Oliver is as good a Centre-forward as Hanson. Is that what you call "reasoned"?

Hanson is a must start for City and until they have the option of a better target man then he will continue to start.

as for those picking at his faults; which one of the City strikers doesn't miss great chances? Hanson has a strike record for City of a goal every 3.5 games. It is adequate and no more. He provides more than just goals of-course and if we could replace him with Benson or similar then that would be great. We don't have Benson though so it's fairly pointless making the comparison.

My thoughts are well known on this subject so I'm not getting drawn but....

Anyone see the miss by West Ham and England's Carlton Cole 4 feet off the goal line with the keeper at one side of the net? The same Carlton Cole who has played 1st team football at Prem and CCC level all his career?

That is just one I am bringing up, there were between 6-10 easy chances missed by international players on 40k+ p/w in the last round of EPL matches this week.

James Hanson is not a prolific scorer at this level at this moment in time, therefore the team need others to make their mark in this respect, Wells has done, Connell is chipping in, albeit from the spot in some instances, where else are the goals coming from?

I said it last week, the more games Jimmy goes without scoring the more pressure will be on him and us but our style of possession up and down the lines, across the back, knock the diagonal and challenge for the knock down/second ball needs a target, we haven't got another at the club just now so unless we do bring one in Hanson is going to be filling the shirt.

So the answer is either change style, the same style that has taken us to two semis and has us in the best league position we've been in for years, or stick with it and bring someone in to take the burden off Hanson and give him time out of the firing line.

Anyone reckon we would have had as much success this season without Jimmy playing? Good job Parky doesn't.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
My thoughts are well known on this subject so I'm not getting drawn but....

Anyone see the miss by West Ham and England's Carlton Cole 4 feet off the goal line with the keeper at one side of the net? The same Carlton Cole who has played 1st team football at Prem and CCC level all his career?

That is just one I am bringing up, there were between 6-10 easy chances missed by international players on 40k+ p/w in the last round of EPL matches this week.

James Hanson is not a prolific scorer at this level at this moment in time, therefore the team need others to make their mark in this respect, Wells has done, Connell is chipping in, albeit from the spot in some instances, where else are the goals coming from?

I said it last week, the more games Jimmy goes without scoring the more pressure will be on him and us but our style of possession up and down the lines, across the back, knock the diagonal and challenge for the knock down/second ball needs a target, we haven't got another at the club just now so unless we do bring one in Hanson is going to be filling the shirt.

So the answer is either change style, the same style that has taken us to two semis and has us in the best league position we've been in for years, or stick with it and bring someone in to take the burden off Hanson and give him time out of the firing line.

Anyone reckon we would have had as much success this season without Jimmy playing? Good job Parky doesn't.

You won't be drawn on the subject but hurl abuse at a keeper who has cost us points when he makes the odd mistake. Hanson's poor finishing has cost us as many points as duke. You could argue duke has won us games with his performances but this does not stop your over the top abuse.

So by your arguments then so we understand each other, I have seen de gea,Joe hart,reina,Paul Robinson,all the arsenal keepers over the last ten years,cesar and other premier league goalkeepers on more money per week than our whole team together and all who also play international make mistakes like duke. So why hammer him like you do but not Hanson.

Ok, I will tell you why.

Duke was culpable or jointly culpable for our last 5 conceded. He doesn't command his area, even leave his six yard box unless it is for no apparent reason to allow someone to lob/loop him. Will not or cannot come for a cross, will not or cannot control his defence with information from behind, a most vital tool for any keeper. Distribution is average at best.

Whilst Hanson was just joining us from the Unibond Prem Matt Duke was playing in the English Prem. At 35 Duke is/should be in his prime, at 25 Hanson is yet to come into his.

Out of the two keepers at our disposal Jonny Mac is a more imposing figure due to a better command of both his box and his backline, is a better distributor of the ball and communicates well which aids the defence greatly. JM is equal if not a better shot stopper, maybe his one weakness is he pushes the ball back into dangerous areas but Duke is just as dodgy on that side of his game.

After 3/4 mistakes or errors of judgement in his game against Rochdale preceded by his calamitous non claim against Accrington he should have lost his place, Jonny Mac would have, we all know that.

Maybe it is time for us all to just pack it in on here as PP picks Hanson who splits opinion, he also favours Duke, which I can't fathom but obviously some people prefer.

And finally, finally, some of my comments were out of order both here and twitter in regard to Matt Duke and if I have offended him or any of you with those comments I apologise now.

Thanks for the honesty I appreciate it. All I am saying us duke may have cost us points but so has Hanson with big misses that should really have been burried. As you say premier strikers miss but then premier goal keepers make mistakes like duke. Look how many the current England number one has made. Johnny mac has also made his fair share look at his performance at brentford. Against dale the whole defence didn't turn up and neither did Doyle ir Jones in the middle not all the goals were down to duke who in fairness also had a poor game. All players at this level make mistakes that is why they are playing league two

macca1969 wrote:
Thanks for the honesty I appreciate it. All I am saying us duke may have cost us points but so has Hanson with big misses that should really have been burried. As you say premier strikers miss but then premier goal keepers make mistakes like duke. Look how many the current England number one has made. Johnny mac has also made his fair share look at his performance at brentford. Against dale the whole defence didn't turn up and neither did Doyle ir Jones in the middle not all the goals were down to duke who in fairness also had a poor game. All players at this level make mistakes that is why they are playing league two

Agreed. I did state after the Rochdale game that Duke wasn't helped by players backing off for a couple of their strikes.

Bad day at the office all round, common sense fans included ;)