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10:03pm Tue 20 Nov 12

RuggerTyke says...

Awful news.

Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now.

The cups have come at a huge price.
Awful news. Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now. The cups have come at a huge price. RuggerTyke
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10:25pm Tue 20 Nov 12

COLATS says...

3 points is all that matters bit scary second half but onwards and upwards. Hope Egan is ok? But lookd bad from where I was sat.
3 points is all that matters bit scary second half but onwards and upwards. Hope Egan is ok? But lookd bad from where I was sat. COLATS
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10:31pm Tue 20 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

bad news indeed. three points sounds a bad injury.

Three points but nothing else to shout about
bad news indeed. three points sounds a bad injury. Three points but nothing else to shout about tyker2
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11:18pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Rambo says...

Terrible news regarding Egan. You could hear him shouting from the Bantams Bar and you knew it was a bad one, as innocuous as it initially looked.

Highlight of the evening was some good defending in light of more re-organising. Though we were helped by PA's poor shooting and finishing. I do feel a better placed team would have made our sloppiness in the second half pay.

Good to see a ref for once not penalise Hanson every time he tried to jump. Though saying that, he and Wells are starting to look knackered and could do with a midweek break.

Gary Jones, Atkinson and McArdle pick of the bunch today. Atkinsons cross late in the second half was sheer class.
Terrible news regarding Egan. You could hear him shouting from the Bantams Bar and you knew it was a bad one, as innocuous as it initially looked. Highlight of the evening was some good defending in light of more re-organising. Though we were helped by PA's poor shooting and finishing. I do feel a better placed team would have made our sloppiness in the second half pay. Good to see a ref for once not penalise Hanson every time he tried to jump. Though saying that, he and Wells are starting to look knackered and could do with a midweek break. Gary Jones, Atkinson and McArdle pick of the bunch today. Atkinsons cross late in the second half was sheer class. Rambo
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11:30pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Dancinfeet says...

Hope Egan comes back from this because he was looking a useful player. I was in line with him and could see straight away it was a very bad break. Best wishes for speedy recovery.
Hope Egan comes back from this because he was looking a useful player. I was in line with him and could see straight away it was a very bad break. Best wishes for speedy recovery. Dancinfeet
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12:31am Wed 21 Nov 12

Bradford1903 says...

Thought it was the worst we had played at home since probably the Hereford game last season, but the most important thing is we got the 3 points.

When you get an injury as serious as that, it can affect the performance, and I wish Egan all the best, on what is going to be a long road to recovery for him, but you do feel we are cursed on that front.

Since we've been in this division, there have been many home games like this, where we've got an early lead then surrendered the initiative, but we'd have drawn this type of match in previous seasons.

Thought the two full backs were the best performers, and McHugh did well when he came on, but we are going to have to play far better than that if we want to remain in the top 7.
Thought it was the worst we had played at home since probably the Hereford game last season, but the most important thing is we got the 3 points. When you get an injury as serious as that, it can affect the performance, and I wish Egan all the best, on what is going to be a long road to recovery for him, but you do feel we are cursed on that front. Since we've been in this division, there have been many home games like this, where we've got an early lead then surrendered the initiative, but we'd have drawn this type of match in previous seasons. Thought the two full backs were the best performers, and McHugh did well when he came on, but we are going to have to play far better than that if we want to remain in the top 7. Bradford1903
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12:57am Wed 21 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Good luck to you John Egan....our family's prayers are with you.

**
Sign of a good team that gets three points when not playing at it's best. Well done to all the BCFC players for grinding out this result after such a terrible blow.
Good luck to you John Egan....our family's prayers are with you. ** Sign of a good team that gets three points when not playing at it's best. Well done to all the BCFC players for grinding out this result after such a terrible blow. bcfc1903
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1:04am Wed 21 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

RuggerTyke wrote:
Awful news.

Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now.

The cups have come at a huge price.
No they haven't come at a terrible price..like most teams in this league we have many injuries mainly due to the punishing league fixtures, cup games have made BCFC loads of cash this season..including a 25,000 sellout against Arsenal. Why wouldn't another premier league defender come to Valley Parade, unfortunately injuries of this nature happen in all grades of football.
[quote][p][bold]RuggerTyke[/bold] wrote: Awful news. Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now. The cups have come at a huge price.[/p][/quote]No they haven't come at a terrible price..like most teams in this league we have many injuries mainly due to the punishing league fixtures, cup games have made BCFC loads of cash this season..including a 25,000 sellout against Arsenal. Why wouldn't another premier league defender come to Valley Parade, unfortunately injuries of this nature happen in all grades of football. bcfc1903
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5:57am Wed 21 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

are injuries going to ruin a good season?
are injuries going to ruin a good season? tyker2
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6:18am Wed 21 Nov 12

Waydownsouth says...

Some really helpful results last night as the other front-runners had a far worse night than city - injuries excepted.
Some really helpful results last night as the other front-runners had a far worse night than city - injuries excepted. Waydownsouth
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11:07am Wed 21 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
RuggerTyke wrote:
Awful news.

Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now.

The cups have come at a huge price.
No they haven't come at a terrible price..like most teams in this league we have many injuries mainly due to the punishing league fixtures, cup games have made BCFC loads of cash this season..including a 25,000 sellout against Arsenal. Why wouldn't another premier league defender come to Valley Parade, unfortunately injuries of this nature happen in all grades of football.
Yes they have come at a terrible price and we haven't had loads of cash from the cup games yet. The biggest pay out so far has been 18k for the 1st round FA cup game.

The Arsenal chickens have yet to be hatched before we can count them. And if that results in a loss of the game and two more players it won't have been worth it as this squad could have walked the title if all had stayed fit.


46 games is not a punishing league schedule, playing every Tuesday for 5 weeks on the trot when your closest league rivals don't takes it's toll, which is why when the Prem clubs, who play far less games than us get the extra day rest if they have played CL or Europa midweek.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RuggerTyke[/bold] wrote: Awful news. Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now. The cups have come at a huge price.[/p][/quote]No they haven't come at a terrible price..like most teams in this league we have many injuries mainly due to the punishing league fixtures, cup games have made BCFC loads of cash this season..including a 25,000 sellout against Arsenal. Why wouldn't another premier league defender come to Valley Parade, unfortunately injuries of this nature happen in all grades of football.[/p][/quote]Yes they have come at a terrible price and we haven't had loads of cash from the cup games yet. The biggest pay out so far has been 18k for the 1st round FA cup game. The Arsenal chickens have yet to be hatched before we can count them. And if that results in a loss of the game and two more players it won't have been worth it as this squad could have walked the title if all had stayed fit. 46 games is not a punishing league schedule, playing every Tuesday for 5 weeks on the trot when your closest league rivals don't takes it's toll, which is why when the Prem clubs, who play far less games than us get the extra day rest if they have played CL or Europa midweek. Prisoner Cell Block A
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12:39pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Rambo says...

Prem Clubs also have much larger squads, and much better youth systems (ours is poor and has been forever, even for this level). And the resources/scouting to get players in quickly, even from abroad.

Some players are desperately in need of a rest. While they are professional athletes, they aren't PL standard and neither are the facilities are around them.
Prem Clubs also have much larger squads, and much better youth systems (ours is poor and has been forever, even for this level). And the resources/scouting to get players in quickly, even from abroad. Some players are desperately in need of a rest. While they are professional athletes, they aren't PL standard and neither are the facilities are around them. Rambo
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9:20pm Wed 21 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
RuggerTyke wrote:
Awful news.

Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now.

The cups have come at a huge price.
No they haven't come at a terrible price..like most teams in this league we have many injuries mainly due to the punishing league fixtures, cup games have made BCFC loads of cash this season..including a 25,000 sellout against Arsenal. Why wouldn't another premier league defender come to Valley Parade, unfortunately injuries of this nature happen in all grades of football.
Yes they have come at a terrible price and we haven't had loads of cash from the cup games yet. The biggest pay out so far has been 18k for the 1st round FA cup game.

The Arsenal chickens have yet to be hatched before we can count them. And if that results in a loss of the game and two more players it won't have been worth it as this squad could have walked the title if all had stayed fit.


46 games is not a punishing league schedule, playing every Tuesday for 5 weeks on the trot when your closest league rivals don't takes it's toll, which is why when the Prem clubs, who play far less games than us get the extra day rest if they have played CL or Europa midweek.
No they haven't come at a terrible price and we have had plenty of cash from our cup runs...how much have we banked so far from the Arsenal game...money banked and making interest....that is one massive game...we will have made a tidy sum on the Wigan game...not to mention JP trophy and Fa Cup prize money. I think you'll find that quite a few teams are struggling with injuries due to playing league and cup games. Yes playing lots of games is tiring but that's hardly paying a terrible price.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RuggerTyke[/bold] wrote: Awful news. Don't see another premier defender wanting to come VP now. The cups have come at a huge price.[/p][/quote]No they haven't come at a terrible price..like most teams in this league we have many injuries mainly due to the punishing league fixtures, cup games have made BCFC loads of cash this season..including a 25,000 sellout against Arsenal. Why wouldn't another premier league defender come to Valley Parade, unfortunately injuries of this nature happen in all grades of football.[/p][/quote]Yes they have come at a terrible price and we haven't had loads of cash from the cup games yet. The biggest pay out so far has been 18k for the 1st round FA cup game. The Arsenal chickens have yet to be hatched before we can count them. And if that results in a loss of the game and two more players it won't have been worth it as this squad could have walked the title if all had stayed fit. 46 games is not a punishing league schedule, playing every Tuesday for 5 weeks on the trot when your closest league rivals don't takes it's toll, which is why when the Prem clubs, who play far less games than us get the extra day rest if they have played CL or Europa midweek.[/p][/quote]No they haven't come at a terrible price and we have had plenty of cash from our cup runs...how much have we banked so far from the Arsenal game...money banked and making interest....that is one massive game...we will have made a tidy sum on the Wigan game...not to mention JP trophy and Fa Cup prize money. I think you'll find that quite a few teams are struggling with injuries due to playing league and cup games. Yes playing lots of games is tiring but that's hardly paying a terrible price. bcfc1903
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9:49am Thu 22 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

The monies for the Arsenal game haven't been realised yet as it is a split between the clubs. The game hasn't been played yet so if in that game we lose Nahki, Meredith and McArdle you think it is worth it.

We made peanuts from the Wigan game, do you not read this paper?

The early rounds of the league cup have no prize money, the JPT has more but this is in the region of £5k and the FA Cup has so far brought the biggest earnings from our cup run at 18k prize money.

Out of these gates and prize monies bills have to be paid for matchday costs, stewards, police etc


We EXPECT to bank 300k after the Arsenal game, not before and not now or not yet, the total has to be agreed, the costs paid and then the divvying can take place.

So to cap this, up to date we have made less than 50k from our cup runs. That isn't worth the loss of Luke Oliver alone never mind the impact across the squad this has had.

Don't believe me, do a tiny bit of research on this site, you will find what I say here to be true.


"Hardly paying a terrible price"

You haven't been to the more recent dead legged performances then? Matched by a weak Plymouth side? Matched and beaten by a struggling Exeter team, who incidentally used our muted performance to sprinboard their own season again?

The team looks jaded, if we do not win another cup game we will have played 56 games so far this season but as we are still in all 3 cups there is a chance for us to have competed in 60+ games with the smallest squad we have had since dropping into this division.

Use your brain mate, I've done the work for you.
The monies for the Arsenal game haven't been realised yet as it is a split between the clubs. The game hasn't been played yet so if in that game we lose Nahki, Meredith and McArdle you think it is worth it. We made peanuts from the Wigan game, do you not read this paper? The early rounds of the league cup have no prize money, the JPT has more but this is in the region of £5k and the FA Cup has so far brought the biggest earnings from our cup run at 18k prize money. Out of these gates and prize monies bills have to be paid for matchday costs, stewards, police etc We EXPECT to bank 300k after the Arsenal game, not before and not now or not yet, the total has to be agreed, the costs paid and then the divvying can take place. So to cap this, up to date we have made less than 50k from our cup runs. That isn't worth the loss of Luke Oliver alone never mind the impact across the squad this has had. Don't believe me, do a tiny bit of research on this site, you will find what I say here to be true. "Hardly paying a terrible price" You haven't been to the more recent dead legged performances then? Matched by a weak Plymouth side? Matched and beaten by a struggling Exeter team, who incidentally used our muted performance to sprinboard their own season again? The team looks jaded, if we do not win another cup game we will have played 56 games so far this season but as we are still in all 3 cups there is a chance for us to have competed in 60+ games with the smallest squad we have had since dropping into this division. Use your brain mate, I've done the work for you. Prisoner Cell Block A
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3:57pm Thu 22 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
The monies for the Arsenal game haven't been realised yet as it is a split between the clubs. The game hasn't been played yet so if in that game we lose Nahki, Meredith and McArdle you think it is worth it.

We made peanuts from the Wigan game, do you not read this paper?

The early rounds of the league cup have no prize money, the JPT has more but this is in the region of £5k and the FA Cup has so far brought the biggest earnings from our cup run at 18k prize money.

Out of these gates and prize monies bills have to be paid for matchday costs, stewards, police etc


We EXPECT to bank 300k after the Arsenal game, not before and not now or not yet, the total has to be agreed, the costs paid and then the divvying can take place.

So to cap this, up to date we have made less than 50k from our cup runs. That isn't worth the loss of Luke Oliver alone never mind the impact across the squad this has had.

Don't believe me, do a tiny bit of research on this site, you will find what I say here to be true.


"Hardly paying a terrible price"

You haven't been to the more recent dead legged performances then? Matched by a weak Plymouth side? Matched and beaten by a struggling Exeter team, who incidentally used our muted performance to sprinboard their own season again?

The team looks jaded, if we do not win another cup game we will have played 56 games so far this season but as we are still in all 3 cups there is a chance for us to have competed in 60+ games with the smallest squad we have had since dropping into this division.

Use your brain mate, I've done the work for you.
I said the Arsenal money was banked making interest I didn't say it was available to spend, but it will be soon enough. Have the figures been released for the Wigan game...if they have, i'd be surprised.... imo BCFC will have made a reasonable amount of cash on that particular game as they will if they keep winning cup games. I'm afraid you can't take the Arsenal money out of the equation, so taking your figures £350,000 has been made. Of course we don't want to lose the three players you mentioned to injury playing the Arsenal game or even one of them if that's what you meant...but you can't go into games thinking what might happen ..i guess we are more likely to win Arsenal than have that particular senario you mentioned come true. Yes some BCFC players have looked jaded....winning is a habit that should help that tiredness...many teams in this league are struggling with injuries... i certainly don't agree that losing one player for the whole season that that has been a terrible price paid for BCFC to be in the very good position they are in in all competitions...if the manager thinks some players are jaded...that gives others a chance to play. Obviously John Egan's injury was a terrible blow but had nothing to do with our cup run (good luck John)... and good luck to both Luke Oliver and Andrew Davies who were injured in a cup game, i'm afraid injuries happen..Reid (hope you're back soon Reidy) was injured in the Rochdale game..part and parcel of football. BCFC have not paid a terrible price for winning cup games...being jaded doesn't constitute paying a terrible price nor does losing Davies and Oliver (great players both)..that is why we brought quality into the squad, McArdle has been immense as was Egan and McHugh's been a revelation for one so young..I know what you're saying PCBA..i just dont see it the same way.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: The monies for the Arsenal game haven't been realised yet as it is a split between the clubs. The game hasn't been played yet so if in that game we lose Nahki, Meredith and McArdle you think it is worth it. We made peanuts from the Wigan game, do you not read this paper? The early rounds of the league cup have no prize money, the JPT has more but this is in the region of £5k and the FA Cup has so far brought the biggest earnings from our cup run at 18k prize money. Out of these gates and prize monies bills have to be paid for matchday costs, stewards, police etc We EXPECT to bank 300k after the Arsenal game, not before and not now or not yet, the total has to be agreed, the costs paid and then the divvying can take place. So to cap this, up to date we have made less than 50k from our cup runs. That isn't worth the loss of Luke Oliver alone never mind the impact across the squad this has had. Don't believe me, do a tiny bit of research on this site, you will find what I say here to be true. "Hardly paying a terrible price" You haven't been to the more recent dead legged performances then? Matched by a weak Plymouth side? Matched and beaten by a struggling Exeter team, who incidentally used our muted performance to sprinboard their own season again? The team looks jaded, if we do not win another cup game we will have played 56 games so far this season but as we are still in all 3 cups there is a chance for us to have competed in 60+ games with the smallest squad we have had since dropping into this division. Use your brain mate, I've done the work for you.[/p][/quote]I said the Arsenal money was banked making interest I didn't say it was available to spend, but it will be soon enough. Have the figures been released for the Wigan game...if they have, i'd be surprised.... imo BCFC will have made a reasonable amount of cash on that particular game as they will if they keep winning cup games. I'm afraid you can't take the Arsenal money out of the equation, so taking your figures £350,000 has been made. Of course we don't want to lose the three players you mentioned to injury playing the Arsenal game or even one of them if that's what you meant...but you can't go into games thinking what might happen ..i guess we are more likely to win Arsenal than have that particular senario you mentioned come true. Yes some BCFC players have looked jaded....winning is a habit that should help that tiredness...many teams in this league are struggling with injuries... i certainly don't agree that losing one player for the whole season that that has been a terrible price paid for BCFC to be in the very good position they are in in all competitions...if the manager thinks some players are jaded...that gives others a chance to play. Obviously John Egan's injury was a terrible blow but had nothing to do with our cup run (good luck John)... and good luck to both Luke Oliver and Andrew Davies who were injured in a cup game, i'm afraid injuries happen..Reid (hope you're back soon Reidy) was injured in the Rochdale game..part and parcel of football. BCFC have not paid a terrible price for winning cup games...being jaded doesn't constitute paying a terrible price nor does losing Davies and Oliver (great players both)..that is why we brought quality into the squad, McArdle has been immense as was Egan and McHugh's been a revelation for one so young..I know what you're saying PCBA..i just dont see it the same way. bcfc1903
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5:18pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Such a small squad would have struggled to compete all season in the league alone with one or two injuries, throw in the current ones we have, add on 10 extra games and it takes it's toll, and tiredness is directly linked to injuries in sportsmen. players, tiredness after playing not only the extra game but then an extra half hour in two of those games squashed in between vital league games.


Yes, Mark Lawn has stated that up to date the cup runs have cost us money, up to the time of his statement, we may be slightly in front now. The Arsenal money is not countable now, it isn't countable until AFTER the game is played, the costs of putting the game on have been deducted and Arsenal have been given their share, we hope to be able to bank 300k after all of that. players, tiredness after playing not only the extra game but then an extra half hour in two of those games squashed in between vital league games.

We'll have to agree to disagree and previously I have held the thought that professional players should be capable of playing their trade twice per week, it is just a bit harder to do this when the ops have played once per week and are fresher and quicker to every tackle and that lateness results in an already soire and tired knee giving out on a player, as in the case of Davies, or over use in the case of Ollie.


And to contradict myself fully, Liverpool won one of their titles in the 70s using only 13 players and competing in League Cup FA Cup and European Cup all in the same year. They were a very special group of players though.
Such a small squad would have struggled to compete all season in the league alone with one or two injuries, throw in the current ones we have, add on 10 extra games and it takes it's toll, and tiredness is directly linked to injuries in sportsmen. players, tiredness after playing not only the extra game but then an extra half hour in two of those games squashed in between vital league games. Yes, Mark Lawn has stated that up to date the cup runs have cost us money, up to the time of his statement, we may be slightly in front now. The Arsenal money is not countable now, it isn't countable until AFTER the game is played, the costs of putting the game on have been deducted and Arsenal have been given their share, we hope to be able to bank 300k after all of that. players, tiredness after playing not only the extra game but then an extra half hour in two of those games squashed in between vital league games. We'll have to agree to disagree and previously I have held the thought that professional players should be capable of playing their trade twice per week, it is just a bit harder to do this when the ops have played once per week and are fresher and quicker to every tackle and that lateness results in an already soire and tired knee giving out on a player, as in the case of Davies, or over use in the case of Ollie. And to contradict myself fully, Liverpool won one of their titles in the 70s using only 13 players and competing in League Cup FA Cup and European Cup all in the same year. They were a very special group of players though. Prisoner Cell Block A
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