Rhodes on a Sky high as Bradford City strike it rich from Arsenal tie (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Rhodes on a Sky high as Bradford City strike it rich from Arsenal tie
7:00am Friday 2nd November 2012 in Sport
By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
Arsenal will head to Valley Parade next month hoping to do better than the last two times they have played there, with the Bantams winning one and drawing one
City could bank up to £300,000 from playing Arsenal as Julian Rhodes called for the cup cash to keep rolling in.
The club are looking at their biggest windfall since the Premier League days after Sky confirmed they will be showing next month’s Capital One Cup quarter-final live on TV.
Joint chairman Rhodes believes the money will go a long way towards balancing the books for the season. But he urged City not to take their foot off the pedal when they kick off the FA Cup at Northampton tomorrow.
Rhodes said: “The Arsenal tie is brilliant and a great reward for the progress we have made in the cups so far. And we’ve got a chance against anyone at our place.
“It will be the biggest game at Valley Parade since we beat Liverpool to stay in the Premier League. We’re not going to rush into the pricing yet because we’ve got to really make this count.
“At the start of the season we set the budget high. We wanted to get a good squad together that could generate extra money like this.
Tomorrow is another huge game. The FA Cup prize money can be enormous – you don’t get any in the League Cup – and the TV fees are so much more because it’s still the number one competition.
Julian Rhodes
“There are areas where we can generate that extra income. One was cup runs, which have been brilliant so far, and the second is add-ons for players like Andre Wisdom at Liverpool, which is happening.
“Finally, if all else fails, we would have to look at selling players in January – which we don’t want to have to do.
“If we can get enough from the first two areas, then hopefully we can afford to strengthen instead.
“We’re making emergency loan signings like Craig Forsyth because Kyel Reid was injured and now we’re looking at centre halves because we’ve had a disaster in that area.”
Another victory at Sixfields, where City won in the league ten days ago, comes with an £18,000 reward – with a further £27,000 windfall on offer for making it through round two.
Rhodes added: “The Northampton game is very important to the club – as is the JPT tie against Port Vale. The better you can do in the cups has a knock-on influence in the league and it gets people behind you.
“Tomorrow is another huge game. The FA Cup prize money can be enormous – you don’t get any in the League Cup – and the TV fees are so much more because it’s still the number one competition.
“It’s fantastic that we are doing well in the League Cup. Nobody could have ever imagined we would be here in the quarter-finals.
“Tuesday night has to go down as one of the best for a long, long time. But we have to keep it going.”
Talks began behind the scenes yesterday to decide on ticket prices for the Arsenal game and the economics of opening up areas of the stadium that have not been used in recent seasons.
The mouth-watering Dece-mber 11 match rekindles memories of the two home games against the Gunners in the top flight when City claimed a 2-1 win and a draw.
Rhodes joked: “I’ve heard Arsene Wenger was having nightmares bearing in mind his appalling record at Valley Parade with only point from a possible six. The one draw he was dreading was Bradford away!
“It’s not a nice one for him and he won’t enjoy it at all. If we’ve got that big crowd behind us and perform like we can then who knows.
“Arsenal will be the red-hot favourites obviously but we showed the other night that anything can happen.
“It’s great for the club and for the city itself. This week has got everybody buzzing.
“The fans at Wigan were incredible but I shouldn’t be surprised anymore. The past ten or 11 years have not been good for them but they keep on coming and they deserve this more than anyone.
“We’re the only team in England still in all three cup competitions right now. Phil (Parkinson) is right, we will need more players if we qualify for the Europa League!”
Comments(78)
ageofreason
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8:13am Fri 2 Nov 12
Freddy
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9:00am Fri 2 Nov 12
Quote-:-
" Another victory at Sixfields, where City won in the league ten days ago, comes with an £18,000 reward – with a further £27,000 windfall on offer for making it through round two. "-Unquote
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Can " THE BRADFORD ARMY " go to Northampton Tomorrow, and create that fabulous ' WALL of SOUND ' to create a goal ?.
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To progress further in all THREE Cup Competitions, would be a huge welcome boost to the revenues-City now need -for replacement Players,because of the current injuries.
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The sooner the ARSENAL Ticket prices are announced--and made available to buy-the sooner the Club will receive their much needed revenue.
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There are some seats in Block A of the Main Stand which have rotted-being permanently exposed to the weather.
That along with some other areas,will reduce the overall seating, that can be sold.
It means there can not be a 25,000 Crowd.
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Talking of 25,000 Crowd Capacity. If 25,000 people would pay £200.To buy a seat at City. That would raise the £5 MILLION needed to buy back Valley Parade for the Club.( Per-chance to DREAM!!).
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Also wondered if those that Sponsor each Stand--would BUY each stand ?. Then maintain them ( Badly Needed Maintenance required). More pipe dreams!!.
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Hoping to be at Northampton to add my voice to the Army of Supporters.
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Old Dave
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9:03am Fri 2 Nov 12
Id give the entire Bradford End over to Arsenal for away fans.
I'd price it at £15 adults and £5 kids, but allow non season ticket holders to buy a ticket for this match and our next home match for a combined £25 to try and encourage them to come again.
beardedclam
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9:04am Fri 2 Nov 12
As a season ticket holder myself, we've had it too easy with the low pricing. Lets stop holding the club back by demanding low prices.
Support the club and pay a realistic cost.
The club will not benefit from selling cheap tickets for this game. Although some on here will think that they are owed exactly that.
gspot01
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9:07am Fri 2 Nov 12
Thee Voice of Reason
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9:25am Fri 2 Nov 12
Each day it's like the ramblings of a madman and most days it's the same shyte as the day before.
Lancashire Bantam
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9:30am Fri 2 Nov 12
beardedclam wrote:Spot on,i couldn't agree more.Let the season ticket holders and the 50-50 card holders have first chance for the loyal support they have given and the rest on a( first come-first served base) it's so simple.
Have one set price for the fixture. Say £25 per ticket. As a season ticket holder myself, we've had it too easy with the low pricing. Lets stop holding the club back by demanding low prices. Support the club and pay a realistic cost. The club will not benefit from selling cheap tickets for this game. Although some on here will think that they are owed exactly that.
bettyswollocks
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9:31am Fri 2 Nov 12
Any more than that and it's really starting to price a lot of people out. It's ok filling the stadium but we want real Bradford City fans turning up, not just wealthy people seeing it as a chance to see a premiership team on their doorstep. These people wouldn't come back.
Reasons to be Cheerful
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9:37am Fri 2 Nov 12
Reasons to be Cheerful
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9:37am Fri 2 Nov 12
Rambo
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9:51am Fri 2 Nov 12
Wow. Knew it was pricey but Jesus.
Thats one good thing i suppose about playing in the lower leagues. Tickets are about £50 cheaper.
Scargutt2
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9:59am Fri 2 Nov 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:From what he says, I think he's on TV which would explain your 'ramblings of a madman' comment. Haha.
Can I ask, what is Freddy on?
Each day it's like the ramblings of a madman and most days it's the same shyte as the day before.
BD16
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10:00am Fri 2 Nov 12
Or, £35 for two games, league game and Arsenal for non season ticket/50-50 card holders? We might get a few floaters to come more often if they see a couple of games.
BANT MAN
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10:05am Fri 2 Nov 12
ObeseCarrot
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10:28am Fri 2 Nov 12
total90
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10:31am Fri 2 Nov 12
BigFigure
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10:39am Fri 2 Nov 12
Reasons to be Cheerful wrote:According to the recent matchday price survey, the cheapest adult ticket at Arsenal is £26.....not far off VP's standard £20 charge...http://www.
The cheapest ticket at Arsenal is £69. Any prices have to be agreed with them. The talk of sub £20 is naive. I expect pricing somewhere between £20-30
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19
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The key point with pricing is not to aim too high so that people are put off, especially with the game on Sky.
Thee Voice of Reason
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10:47am Fri 2 Nov 12
BigFigure wrote:I think your being mistaken, £26 is probably for a pie and a programme.
Reasons to be Cheerful wrote: The cheapest ticket at Arsenal is £69. Any prices have to be agreed with them. The talk of sub £20 is naive. I expect pricing somewhere between £20-30According to the recent matchday price survey, the cheapest adult ticket at Arsenal is £26.....not far off VP's standard £20 charge...http://www. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19 842397 The key point with pricing is not to aim too high so that people are put off, especially with the game on Sky.
At the AGM last week people were asking why fish and chips in the ground cost £11.65 and a cup of tea was £3.
ricky76
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10:54am Fri 2 Nov 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:I also read somewhere about Arsenal selling tickets at £26 whether it was one off I dont but certainley read it. As for this game I do believe you cant charge more than you would for a league game so I think £20 is the max the club can charge.
BigFigure wrote:I think your being mistaken, £26 is probably for a pie and a programme.
Reasons to be Cheerful wrote: The cheapest ticket at Arsenal is £69. Any prices have to be agreed with them. The talk of sub £20 is naive. I expect pricing somewhere between £20-30According to the recent matchday price survey, the cheapest adult ticket at Arsenal is £26.....not far off VP's standard £20 charge...http://www. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19 842397 The key point with pricing is not to aim too high so that people are put off, especially with the game on Sky.
At the AGM last week people were asking why fish and chips in the ground cost £11.65 and a cup of tea was £3.
tyker2
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10:55am Fri 2 Nov 12
i think City shoud have a price fr season ticket holder of £20 and others t £25. Aldershot charge that for a seat on wooden planks!)
Additionally there should be a pre condition that non season ticket holders have to attend at least one of the home games in the period upto the Arsenal game.
Julian reckons £300k net to us. i feel that is a little low but .................
Thee Voice of Reason
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10:55am Fri 2 Nov 12
http://www.arsenal.c
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BigFigure
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11:20am Fri 2 Nov 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:Unlike most I quote my source....£6.30 for a pie and a programme......
BigFigure wrote:I think your being mistaken, £26 is probably for a pie and a programme.
Reasons to be Cheerful wrote: The cheapest ticket at Arsenal is £69. Any prices have to be agreed with them. The talk of sub £20 is naive. I expect pricing somewhere between £20-30According to the recent matchday price survey, the cheapest adult ticket at Arsenal is £26.....not far off VP's standard £20 charge...http://www. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19 842397 The key point with pricing is not to aim too high so that people are put off, especially with the game on Sky.
At the AGM last week people were asking why fish and chips in the ground cost £11.65 and a cup of tea was £3.
northyorksbantam
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11:21am Fri 2 Nov 12
tyker2 wrote:Dont forget we have to give Arsenal half the gate receipts.
I have wondered for a while. He had no idea when the first round of the FA cup was due? i think City shoud have a price fr season ticket holder of £20 and others t £25. Aldershot charge that for a seat on wooden planks!) Additionally there should be a pre condition that non season ticket holders have to attend at least one of the home games in the period upto the Arsenal game. Julian reckons £300k net to us. i feel that is a little low but .................
northyorksbantam
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11:32am Fri 2 Nov 12
BD16 wrote:Think your maths might be a bit flawed there....
What about £20 for season tickets/50-50 cards and then £25 for visitors/everybody else?
Or, £35 for two games, league game and Arsenal for non season ticket/50-50 card holders? We might get a few floaters to come more often if they see a couple of games.
Your suggesting £20 entry for season ticket/flexi holders, or £35 for an Arsenal ticket and a league match for flexi holders. Flexi holders pay £10 per league match. So by my reckoning that leaves the flexi's £5 out of pocket if your basing the Arsenal ticket price at £20. They would only just break even if the Arsenal ticket was £25 so no benefit whatsoever.
fatbloke
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11:35am Fri 2 Nov 12
Whatever we pay as season ticket holders I would like to see the stay aways pay at least £5 more. Reward the loyals without making it to cheap!
£5 xtra for 15k glory supporters = £75k
northyorksbantam
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11:36am Fri 2 Nov 12
beardedclam wrote:Agree with that Clam, its a good and rare opportunity for the club to make some money and JR has said it will go towards the benefit the team, and also help the club break even which is vitally important.
Have one set price for the fixture. Say £25 per ticket.
As a season ticket holder myself, we've had it too easy with the low pricing. Lets stop holding the club back by demanding low prices.
Support the club and pay a realistic cost.
The club will not benefit from selling cheap tickets for this game. Although some on here will think that they are owed exactly that.
fatbloke
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11:37am Fri 2 Nov 12
Who gives a ***k
We're Bradford City and where going up :-)
Farsley Bantam
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12:00pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:Black Mamba I think.
Can I ask, what is Freddy on? Each day it's like the ramblings of a madman and most days it's the same shyte as the day before.
Waynus1971
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12:10pm Fri 2 Nov 12
If we try to charge too much, many will opt to stay at home or watch in the pub. After all, isn't that what you are accusing them of doing every other week?
The pricing should be the same as it is for the league, without the 50/50 discount. Or even better, scrap the concessions for this game and charge everyone the same £20 entrance.
Season tickets and flexi-card holders get first dibs on tickets/seats and can buy max of 2 tickets each. Arsenal get top section of main stand and the remainder go on general sale, BUT must be members or are at least on the City database.
I think that seems fair to all
bcfc1903
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12:12pm Fri 2 Nov 12
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We shout with pride....we never hide...CLARET and AMBER...
Cityman23
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12:26pm Fri 2 Nov 12
'JOOLS & LAWNEE'
In the boardroom, Jools is on his laptop whilst Lawnee is whistling, scribbling on some paper.
J: Why do you keep whistling THAT tune all the time, it's getting on my nerves?
L: It's 'La Marseilaise' Jools-the French national anthem!
J: I KNOW what is..but why are you whistling it?????!!!
L: Right....DONE!! That's it!!
J: What?!!
L: I 've now finished our ticket pricing plans..for the 'big game!'
J: Surprise me.
L: Well...for the Gunners fans there will be a three tier pricing structure.
Ist the 'Entente' at £70 a ticket...then..the 'Cordiale' at £60..and then ...bottom of the heap' ..your 'bog' standard ...or should that be 'la toilette' ..or..even...'les wc'...at 50 quid a throw!!
J: What's that one called?
L: Well...I was a bit stuck on that one...but what about..'.L'Arsene!'
J: OMG!!
L: Now...for the 'Entente'...the 'extras' are...a free programme...I thought we should be lookin' at an A4 brochure-sized special issue...we can price that at a £fiver on the night..as a 'one off'!
Then...each of them (Ententes!) gets a half/half....City/Gu
nners scarf..as they arrive...and then ..finally...at half time...a free pie..with an alternative-you're goin' to like this.. being 'l' escargot...'steak tartare or ..cuisse de grenuiles..that's frogs legs...I've been in touch with 'catering' and it's ON.. what d'y'a think?
J: What do 'cordiales' get..??!!
L: Oh..they just get the programme and the scarf...
J: and..let me guess..the 'l'Arsennes...just the freebie programme?!!
L: Yeah..I thought..it's a fair deal..I mean...the Gunners' season ticket holders pay over a grand a ticket at The Emrates and that doesn't include grub...so .very fair in my view!!
Jools..pat attention....I haven't told you about my plans for our OWN fans..the regular supporters ..'Billy Bantam deal' deal I call it...then there's the 'Johnny Come Lately' deal...for those who never come near 'VP'!! also, I'm thinking of having a 'French' theme throughout the ground on the night...Jools..are you listening?!!
JOOLS! Where ARE YOU GOIN?!!
JOOOOOOOOOLLLLSSSSSS
SS!!
shoesman1
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12:40pm Fri 2 Nov 12
BD16
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12:44pm Fri 2 Nov 12
northyorksbantam wrote:I think you've misunderstood what I meant. I said £35 for two games, a league game and the Arsenal game, for non season ticket/50-50 card holders.
BD16 wrote: What about £20 for season tickets/50-50 cards and then £25 for visitors/everybody else? Or, £35 for two games, league game and Arsenal for non season ticket/50-50 card holders? We might get a few floaters to come more often if they see a couple of games.Think your maths might be a bit flawed there.... Your suggesting £20 entry for season ticket/flexi holders, or £35 for an Arsenal ticket and a league match for flexi holders. Flexi holders pay £10 per league match. So by my reckoning that leaves the flexi's £5 out of pocket if your basing the Arsenal ticket price at £20. They would only just break even if the Arsenal ticket was £25 so no benefit whatsoever.
I think season ticket and 50-50 holders should pay £20 each.
tyker2
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1:01pm Fri 2 Nov 12
This a golden opportunity to get some financial stability into the club and everyone should see it as that
I cannot get to the game as I will be in Cornwall so will be trying to get to get to a Sky screen somewhere
ctid1980
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1:03pm Fri 2 Nov 12
fatbloke
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1:45pm Fri 2 Nov 12
silverbantam
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2:07pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Rich73
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2:12pm Fri 2 Nov 12
total90
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2:24pm Fri 2 Nov 12
"get over it!"
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2:43pm Fri 2 Nov 12
City fan or not i wouldn't be travelling down to chelsea or Arsenal on a Tuesday night, wouldn't afford the time off work, Money, would kick back and watch it on sky, all this arguing about who is the better supporter is a load of shyte! decent prices is whats needed as an average person in this day and age would struggle to budget for axtra games like this, especially with kids and family, If we start picking and choosing our fans we will end up going the way the bulls have.
I am a city fan but if there is a good game on elsewhere and city are away i sometimes watch guiseley , thackley anywhere with a good value day out.
also tickets for Man City and wigan are below £25 quid for most premier league games, they offer good football on a budget.”
Everybody is presuming that 25000 want to go watch a tuesday night league cup tie, To us City fans Bradford City means everything but to anybody else it is just league 2 bradford city, i have always watched city , went to burton game and Wigan both with the attitude that its just the league cup but convenient, not too far to travel, cheap tickets,should be a good game, why not. City fan or not i wouldn't be travelling down to chelsea or Arsenal on a Tuesday night, wouldn't afford the time off work, Money, would kick back and watch it on sky, all this arguing about who is the better supporter is a load of shyte! decent prices is whats needed as an average person in this day and age would struggle to budget for axtra games like this, especially with kids and family, If we start picking and choosing our fans we will end up going the way the bulls have. I am a city fan but if there is a good game on elsewhere and city are away i sometimes watch guiseley , thackley anywhere with a good value day out. also tickets for Man City and wigan are below £25 quid for most premier league games, they offer good football on a budget. "get over it!"
audal
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2:50pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Farsley Bantam
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2:56pm Fri 2 Nov 12
total90 wrote:As a City fan I would be totally embarrassed if this 'anthem' was played on live tv. It is absolute tripe and I'm surprised it hasn't been dropped yet. I've heard it 4 or 5 times and it gets worse with each listen.
The anthem Claret and Amber is now available for free down load from 'Sound Cloud' there is also a ring tone. The lyrics can be found by searching for 'Claret and Amber words Telegraph and Argus' it's the origional article by the T and A. Down load the ring tone, it sounds brilliant. Can you imagine how inspiring it would be for our players coming out to thousands of City supporters singing there own anthem live on tv. We would drown out anything the Arsenal fans were singing. I plead to those who will come to this game and have not been to VP since the Hereford game, don't just come and sit in judgement get involved and praise the team for getting to this stage regardless of level of entertainment or final result. This game to me is a practice run for a possible trip to Wembley via the play offs. Be prepared to have throats sore and hands raw feeling absolutely knackered like last Tuesday night.
lawsonio123
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3:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Farsley Bantam
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3:13pm Fri 2 Nov 12
"get over it!" wrote:Where to start with this rubbish.
Everybody is presuming that 25000 want to go watch a tuesday night league cup tie, To us City fans Bradford City means everything but to anybody else it is just league 2 bradford city, i have always watched city , went to burton game and Wigan both with the attitude that its just the league cup but convenient, not too far to travel, cheap tickets,should be a good game, why not. City fan or not i wouldn't be travelling down to chelsea or Arsenal on a Tuesday night, wouldn't afford the time off work, Money, would kick back and watch it on sky, all this arguing about who is the better supporter is a load of shyte! decent prices is whats needed as an average person in this day and age would struggle to budget for axtra games like this, especially with kids and family, If we start picking and choosing our fans we will end up going the way the bulls have. I am a city fan but if there is a good game on elsewhere and city are away i sometimes watch guiseley , thackley anywhere with a good value day out. also tickets for Man City and wigan are below £25 quid for most premier league games, they offer good football on a budget.” Everybody is presuming that 25000 want to go watch a tuesday night league cup tie, To us City fans Bradford City means everything but to anybody else it is just league 2 bradford city, i have always watched city , went to burton game and Wigan both with the attitude that its just the league cup but convenient, not too far to travel, cheap tickets,should be a good game, why not. City fan or not i wouldn't be travelling down to chelsea or Arsenal on a Tuesday night, wouldn't afford the time off work, Money, would kick back and watch it on sky, all this arguing about who is the better supporter is a load of shyte! decent prices is whats needed as an average person in this day and age would struggle to budget for axtra games like this, especially with kids and family, If we start picking and choosing our fans we will end up going the way the bulls have. I am a city fan but if there is a good game on elsewhere and city are away i sometimes watch guiseley , thackley anywhere with a good value day out. also tickets for Man City and wigan are below £25 quid for most premier league games, they offer good football on a budget. "get over it!"
It will definitely be a sell out. City get 10,000+ every home game playing the likes of Accrington Stanley. Ofcourse they will double this (and more) when they are playing Arsenal. For the 10,000 that turn up each week there are at least another 25,000 dormant supporters (probably more)who won't want to miss this. I know plenty myself.
Oakenshaw white
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3:56pm Fri 2 Nov 12
rattusrattus
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4:00pm Fri 2 Nov 12
fatbloke wrote:Xenophobic garbage! Why should other people pay more???
Like most, happy to pay whatever.
Whatever we pay as season ticket holders I would like to see the stay aways pay at least £5 more. Reward the loyals without making it to cheap!
£5 xtra for 15k glory supporters = £75k
Village Bantam
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4:34pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Whether it's the full 25,000 is another question.
For me, I'd give Arsenal 5,000 tickets, charge Adults £35 and concessions £20.
City fans, I'd go with £25 + £15.
You'd get approx £150k from the away support and £430k from the home (£580k in total) that's with 1500 away concessions and 7000 home.
I'd do it as one off, knowing that it is gonna benefit my club and for a last eight birth in the cup against Arsenal, then you couldn't argue it isn't worth it.
Arsenal fans would think it cheap compared to what they usually have to pay and from 60k+ fans, I'm sure they'd have no trouble selling their allocation.
The TV money wouldn't quite cover the expenses of running the match and policing etc. but we'd have close to half a million if they do it right.
£300k is obviously an under estimation but it wouldn't surprise me if the figures were similar to what I've suggested.
bcfc1903
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4:53pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Farsley Bantam wrote:I love the Claret and Amber song, the real tripe is hi ho silver lining which was played for years at Valley Parade which is pure unadulterated crap, even Jeff Beck agrees lol.... and means nothing to BCFC fans. Claret and Amber is the Bradford Anthem and will not be dropped and will be played LOUD AND PROUDLY at Valley Parade far longer than that hi ho dross played previously.
total90 wrote:As a City fan I would be totally embarrassed if this 'anthem' was played on live tv. It is absolute tripe and I'm surprised it hasn't been dropped yet. I've heard it 4 or 5 times and it gets worse with each listen.
The anthem Claret and Amber is now available for free down load from 'Sound Cloud' there is also a ring tone. The lyrics can be found by searching for 'Claret and Amber words Telegraph and Argus' it's the origional article by the T and A. Down load the ring tone, it sounds brilliant. Can you imagine how inspiring it would be for our players coming out to thousands of City supporters singing there own anthem live on tv. We would drown out anything the Arsenal fans were singing. I plead to those who will come to this game and have not been to VP since the Hereford game, don't just come and sit in judgement get involved and praise the team for getting to this stage regardless of level of entertainment or final result. This game to me is a practice run for a possible trip to Wembley via the play offs. Be prepared to have throats sore and hands raw feeling absolutely knackered like last Tuesday night.
**
We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...
bcfc1903
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5:01pm Fri 2 Nov 12
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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...
"get over it!"
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5:04pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Oakenshaw white
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5:08pm Fri 2 Nov 12
bcfc1903 wrote:Smaller club yes but Arsenal won't bring 9 or 10,000 as Leeds would.
It'll be a 25,000 sell easily, if we'd have played the scummers ...obviously it would have been less as lufc aren't as big a draw and a small club in comparison to Arsenal.....possibly 20,000.
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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...
Rambo
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5:38pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Oakenshaw white wrote:We only have to give 15% allocation as away fans. There is absolutely no way we would allow Leeds to officially bring that many.
bcfc1903 wrote:Smaller club yes but Arsenal won't bring 9 or 10,000 as Leeds would.
It'll be a 25,000 sell easily, if we'd have played the scummers ...obviously it would have been less as lufc aren't as big a draw and a small club in comparison to Arsenal.....possibly 20,000.
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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...
With Leeds' recent history I doubt we would have given them more than say the Midland Road (4,500). Whatever money we would make would have been spent on bringing in the army to keep their rabble under control.
And for a game like that I assume the club would use a database system to avoid Leeds fans getting in the home ends. Theres already been a few thuggish Leeds fans posing as BCFC fans asking about tickets on their Facebook page. If you look at their photos you would see these definitely are NOT the sort of people you'd want to risk in a home end.
Rambo
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5:40pm Fri 2 Nov 12
The sort of people who were probably ripping seats out at Hillsborough.
Storck
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5:54pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Village Bantam wrote:Small problem with your pricing, it would get us thrown out of the cup.
It's gonna be a full house, no doubt about that.
Whether it's the full 25,000 is another question.
For me, I'd give Arsenal 5,000 tickets, charge Adults £35 and concessions £20.
City fans, I'd go with £25 + £15.
You'd get approx £150k from the away support and £430k from the home (£580k in total) that's with 1500 away concessions and 7000 home.
I'd do it as one off, knowing that it is gonna benefit my club and for a last eight birth in the cup against Arsenal, then you couldn't argue it isn't worth it.
Arsenal fans would think it cheap compared to what they usually have to pay and from 60k+ fans, I'm sure they'd have no trouble selling their allocation.
The TV money wouldn't quite cover the expenses of running the match and policing etc. but we'd have close to half a million if they do it right.
£300k is obviously an under estimation but it wouldn't surprise me if the figures were similar to what I've suggested.
You have to charge both sets of fans the same prices, so I can not see the club going with your suggestion. :) Also Arsenal have to agree to the prices.
On your second point about the £300k been an under estimation you do know that everything after costs is split between the clubs, possibly with some going to the League as it does in the FA Cup.
Personally I think it will be £20 a ticket with Arsenal given the Midland Road Stand, 3500?. We can not give them 5,000 as there is no where to place that number unless we gave them the Midland Road and the Bradford End.
nowt fresh
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6:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Oakenshaw white wrote:Yes Leeds would bring 10,000 no problem (if given that amount of tickets) but what would the cost of policing the game be compared with policing the Arsenal fans,as we know from our Premier days Leeds fans infiltrated other parts of the ground they were not suppose to be in and caused massive problems especially in the Midland Road stand where "the Beeston Whites" had two front rows amongst the City fans, not a healthy situation
bcfc1903 wrote: It'll be a 25,000 sell easily, if we'd have played the scummers ...obviously it would have been less as lufc aren't as big a draw and a small club in comparison to Arsenal.....possibly 20,000. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...Smaller club yes but Arsenal won't bring 9 or 10,000 as Leeds would.
Waynus1971
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6:09pm Fri 2 Nov 12
fatbloke wrote:But didn't I say we only reserve so many tickets for the away support? The rest go to our own fans in the order of Season Ticket holders (plus 1 extra ticket), 50/50 holders (plus 1 extra ticket) and the rest to OUR fans if they can prove they have bought tickets before/are members.
Have to disagree Waynus, glory supporting City fans might stay away but the Bradford born Arsenal fans will pay that little bit xtra to get out of their armchairs.
Surely that stops the Armchair Arsenal fans, but keeps it fair for our own fans.
Marco Polio
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7:14pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Saltaire Bantam
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7:47pm Fri 2 Nov 12
ilkleyborn
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7:57pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Bredon Bantam
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8:19pm Fri 2 Nov 12
10:55am Fri 2 Nov 12
Arsenal website appears to suggest that ticket details will be availible on the 8th November.
Above confirms the date i have heard (9th November) I wont fall out over a day!
Re the price of tickets, I believe BCFC may well have "tested the water" and doing so i am of the view is that they will be priced in the £20-£25 bracket for adullts,with the usual discounts for kids & seniors and despite the match being televised live i feel if the ticket prices stated above are confirmed there will be a near capacity attendance,Happy Days.
Continuing Onwards & Upwards!
bcfc1903
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8:28pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Oakenshaw white wrote:Leeds wouldn't bring 9 or 10,000 fans, they'd get 4,750 tickets like Arsenal. If you think the other 6,000 would be sat in our end your having a laugh lol, it never has happened and wouldn't happen...anyway we'll be playing Chelsea in the semi's lol.
bcfc1903 wrote:Smaller club yes but Arsenal won't bring 9 or 10,000 as Leeds would.
It'll be a 25,000 sell easily, if we'd have played the scummers ...obviously it would have been less as lufc aren't as big a draw and a small club in comparison to Arsenal.....possibly 20,000.
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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...
bcfc1903
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8:37pm Fri 2 Nov 12
nowt fresh wrote:Yeah, 20 or 30 infiltrated ....sat right next to the Leeds fans if i remember correctly, for an easy getaway lol. Bradford fans have done exactly the same at Bellend Road on occasions when tickets for the away section had sold out especially in away games in Leeds in 90 and 97.
Oakenshaw white wrote:Yes Leeds would bring 10,000 no problem (if given that amount of tickets) but what would the cost of policing the game be compared with policing the Arsenal fans,as we know from our Premier days Leeds fans infiltrated other parts of the ground they were not suppose to be in and caused massive problems especially in the Midland Road stand where "the Beeston Whites" had two front rows amongst the City fans, not a healthy situation
bcfc1903 wrote: It'll be a 25,000 sell easily, if we'd have played the scummers ...obviously it would have been less as lufc aren't as big a draw and a small club in comparison to Arsenal.....possibly 20,000. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber...Smaller club yes but Arsenal won't bring 9 or 10,000 as Leeds would.
Oakenshaw white
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10:24pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Londonbantam
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11:01pm Fri 2 Nov 12
Reasons to be Cheerful wrote:Bit of an exaggeration. I live close to Arsenal ground - for the last few years inc this year, they charge £10 and £20 for league cup tickets up to quarter final round. Champions league & Prem league from around £35.
The cheapest ticket at Arsenal is £69. Any prices have to be agreed with them. The talk of sub £20 is naive. I expect pricing somewhere between £20-30
Agree that season ticket holders should get up to 2 tickets each, £15 or £20 each, then 50/50 holders 2 tickets each. Loyal supporters, and all that!
bcfc1903
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12:17am Sat 3 Nov 12
Oakenshaw white wrote:I'm glad you didn't 'say again', Leeds would bring 10,000 fans lol, you would be wrong on that and you are wrong about BCFC not getting a fullhouse, i'll say again, there will be 25,000 at VP for the Arsenal game, we got 15,000 + for Stockport not that long ago, Stockport brought not many. Funny i could have sworn i paid 800 quid for four season tickets lol Bitter.. Bates still ripping you mugs off then?
I will say it again you will not get a full house, Arsenal will not bring 5000 on a Tuesday night for a televised game and no way will 20,000 Bradford fans pay £20 a ticket they don't want to pay that for a season ticket lol. Hats off to you though for getting so far.
tyker2
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5:38am Sat 3 Nov 12
Rambo wrote:and assualting players!!!
By looking at their photos I meant not just their faces, but photos of them and their mates at away games - boozed up on coaches, going around getting wrecked in town centres before the matches.
The sort of people who were probably ripping seats out at Hillsborough.
martinfletcher
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8:00am Sat 3 Nov 12
Capital one cup? £10 or £20 to fill it for what will be a team full of reserves & kids so Rhodes needs to be careful as it won't be the first team playing for sure (Wenger didn't even play that for a home quarter to Man City last year)
martinfletcher
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10:10am Sat 3 Nov 12
The decommissioning of parts of VP over the last 5 or so years suggests parts of the stadium do not have a valid safety certificate as these things have to be updated yearly at a vodt which given the surplus capacity there's been no need to do which does beg the question what precisely is the current capacity at VP?
And Arsenal will be entitled to 25% (Up to 6,000) of the tickets which they'll almost certainly sell out of so that'll be the Bradford End plus the Midland Rd
martinfletcher
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10:17am Sat 3 Nov 12
No wonder City can't make an announcement on ticketing yet - Arsenal website suggests there'll be no announcement till Thursday 8 November at the earliest
http://www.arsenal.c
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martinfletcher
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10:27am Sat 3 Nov 12
bcfc1903
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11:49am Sat 3 Nov 12
martinfletcher wrote:The only bit of VP that can't be used if the Arsenal game was played today is the Northwest corner and BCFC don't have to give Arsenal 25% of tickets lol. They'll get the Midland Road stand which holds 4,750....the Northwest corner will be used for the Arsenal game as it's new and hardly been used, a new certificate will be gotten and tickets sold......lets make this crystal clear...all parts of Valley Parade have a safety certificate EXCEPT the Northwest Corner.
That's £10 lower & £20 upper tier at The Emirates for VP pricing - Any price hike though will have to be tempered by the team Wenger WILL play otherwise it'll cause bad blood if City hike their prices 100%-200% as happened back in the day (1976 FAC QF)
The decommissioning of parts of VP over the last 5 or so years suggests parts of the stadium do not have a valid safety certificate as these things have to be updated yearly at a vodt which given the surplus capacity there's been no need to do which does beg the question what precisely is the current capacity at VP?
And Arsenal will be entitled to 25% (Up to 6,000) of the tickets which they'll almost certainly sell out of so that'll be the Bradford End plus the Midland Rd
martinfletcher
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1:31pm Sat 3 Nov 12
There's no implication WHATSOEVER that any part of VP is not capable of certification so much as the economic cost & decision of a cash strapped club annually undergoing the process of certifying parts of a stadium not in use for years? Otherwise what's the "economics" of the current decision? You sell tickets, it seems a cost is implied in reopening them
There certainly is a minimum away allocation for cup ties & if its no longer 25% it's certainly more than the 7% of VP houses by the mecaano set of the Bradford End
martinfletcher
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1:37pm Sat 3 Nov 12
There's no implication WHATSOEVER that any part of VP is not capable of certification so much as the economic cost & decision of a cash strapped club annually undergoing the process of certifying parts of a stadium not in use for years? Otherwise what's the "economics" of the current decision? You sell tickets, it seems a cost is implied in reopening them
There certainly is a minimum away allocation for cup ties & if its no longer 25% it's certainly more than the 7% of VP houses by the mecaano set of the Bradford End
martinfletcher
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1:50pm Sat 3 Nov 12
martinfletcher
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2:02pm Sat 3 Nov 12
martinfletcher
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2:04pm Sat 3 Nov 12
bcfc1903
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2:02am Sun 4 Nov 12
martinfletcher wrote:Yes, BCFC season ticket holders will be moved from the Midland Road stand, 25%....try 15% it has a capacity of around 4,750....the Northwest corner is brand new in terms of hardly being used since it was built....i guess the club will reopen it for the Arsenal game as no work other than oiling the turnstyles is needed and paying for a safety inspection/ certificate.
Which means season ticket holders have to be moved from the Midland Rd & Northwest corner is by your own reckoning not certified - is that only part of VP not in use in recent years?
There's no implication WHATSOEVER that any part of VP is not capable of certification so much as the economic cost & decision of a cash strapped club annually undergoing the process of certifying parts of a stadium not in use for years? Otherwise what's the "economics" of the current decision? You sell tickets, it seems a cost is implied in reopening them
There certainly is a minimum away allocation for cup ties & if its no longer 25% it's certainly more than the 7% of VP houses by the mecaano set of the Bradford End
**
The Bradford End is for home fans only and has been for years.
Lancashire Bantam says...
8:08am Fri 2 Nov 12