Huddersfield confirm signing of former Bulls prop Craig Kopczak (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

bbibby wrote:
http://www.thesun.co

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no fee paid to bulls, as huddersfield found not guilty!
more mistruths from mr journalist

get your begging bowl out for the 2p's to raise money for your next signing!

bbibby wrote:
http://www.thesun.co

.uk/sol/homepage/spo

rt/rugby_league/4607

797/Craig-Kopczak-ta

pping-up-row.html

no fee paid to bulls, as huddersfield found not guilty!
more mistruths from mr journalist

get your begging bowl out for the 2p's to raise money for your next signing!

flashdonut wrote:
Well done Koppy. Ignore the haters. Takes a big man to put his family before his beloved club, knowing he will get stick form all angles. He is Bulls through and through. But facts are facts. Scruton was circa 100k, Kopz 50k. I would have moved too.
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Before folk start having a pop, remember this. Our homegrown player, JP, was not paid enough. He went. He didn't want to, but the money situation forced his hand. Our great son, Fielden, is still a Bull at heart. But Pies nearly trebled his salary.
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There's a continuing issue at Bulls, where the hierachy try fob off the homegrown kids with pennies and save the big bucks for outside signings. Hopefully with the Whithead & Bateman long term signings that tide has turned.

bullsmania wrote:

westybulls wrote:

bbibby wrote:
http://www.thesun.co



.uk/sol/homepage/spo



rt/rugby_league/4607



797/Craig-Kopczak-ta



pping-up-row.html

no fee paid to bulls, as huddersfield found not guilty!
more mistruths from mr journalist

get your begging bowl out for the 2p's to raise money for your next signing!

Cause the sun never gets it wrong!!!!

Await the rfl statement! The sun is in fact correct.
Bulls have known for a while but are gutless in telling their fans. They have major problems on the horizon. I don't think koppy will take this lying down.
The Harris court case was minor compared to what's coming bulls way

flashdonut wrote:
Well done Koppy. Ignore the haters. Takes a big man to put his family before his beloved club, knowing he will get stick form all angles. He is Bulls through and through. But facts are facts. Scruton was circa 100k, Kopz 50k. I would have moved too.
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Before folk start having a pop, remember this. Our homegrown player, JP, was not paid enough. He went. He didn't want to, but the money situation forced his hand. Our great son, Fielden, is still a Bull at heart. But Pies nearly trebled his salary.
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There's a continuing issue at Bulls, where the hierachy try fob off the homegrown kids with pennies and save the big bucks for outside signings. Hopefully with the Whithead & Bateman long term signings that tide has turned.

flashdonut wrote:
Well done Koppy. Ignore the haters. Takes a big man to put his family before his beloved club, knowing he will get stick form all angles. He is Bulls through and through. But facts are facts. Scruton was circa 100k, Kopz 50k. I would have moved too.
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Before folk start having a pop, remember this. Our homegrown player, JP, was not paid enough. He went. He didn't want to, but the money situation forced his hand. Our great son, Fielden, is still a Bull at heart. But Pies nearly trebled his salary.
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There's a continuing issue at Bulls, where the hierachy try fob off the homegrown kids with pennies and save the big bucks for outside signings. Hopefully with the Whithead & Bateman long term signings that tide has turned.

A N Oldman wrote:
Flash, what a bloody idiot you are. The man? Walked out on his team, his mates, the fans, before the end of the season. Not good. Had he waited until the end of the season them moved on the Hatred he has created would have been avoided. It's not the fact he's moved on, it's the way that he did it.

Oh, by the way, £50 k per year, not bad money, there are plenty out there who would like to be earning that.

A N Oldman wrote:
Kopout was one of the assets bought by OK Bulls and as such had a liability to play for the club. By walking out on the Bulls he broke HIS contract with the club. So, where are you coming from with the garbage, that the Bulls are walking into something bigger than Harrisgate. I know, no bloody where. Talk as you walk eh, FAKE.

flashdonut wrote:

A N Oldman wrote:
Flash, what a bloody idiot you are. The man? Walked out on his team, his mates, the fans, before the end of the season. Not good. Had he waited until the end of the season them moved on the Hatred he has created would have been avoided. It's not the fact he's moved on, it's the way that he did it.

Oh, by the way, £50 k per year, not bad money, there are plenty out there who would like to be earning that.

Exactly. Couldn't have put it better. He left all his mates, his club, his fans. For the sake of his missus and child. Brave move. Whitehead said in this paper it was sneaky, most fans curse him. You know what? He has doubled his wage. His kids are secure. When he tucks them in bed at night, you think he is worried what you or me think? Or he is happy that by the time he is 30 he is nearly mortgage free, that his kids get a nice holiday, that the fridge is full.
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The clubs payment stratgedy is (was) wrong. His hand was forced.
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50k salary is not bad you say? Maybe for a checkut girl. But this is an international, professional, rugby league player. 50k is poor.
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Hells bells, you only have to read about Hargreaves and Ainscough. Bryn retired at 26!!! A talent like that! Ainy may be forced to work in a timber mill. He is 22!!!
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It is no way FC or OK fault, but there's mismanagement with salary's. Do you know any other club that is losing two first team players (Ainy and Bryn), under the age of 27, to another trade?
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We also lost Crookes and Burgess. That is now three homegron players. Something is or was wrong.

flashdonut wrote:
50k, when Scruton is on 100k?
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Also funny how nobody has put apoint over regards JP, Fielden, Bryn or Ainy.
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Maybe because I am right.
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It is not greed. It is getting your fair and equal pay in that industry. Of course it is a very good salary. I would love it. But in the RL industry, it is not the best. Just how it is.

bbibby wrote:
At last someone who knows the facts.Some of the idiots who post on here only believe what they like to hear.Why have the Club not made a Statement??? They are at fault ,typical of a organisation that is a shambles.Nothing has changed same old ,same old.It is going to be a long season could get a lot of big scores against us.

Uglytruth wrote:

flashdonut wrote:

A N Oldman wrote: Flash, what a bloody idiot you are. The man? Walked out on his team, his mates, the fans, before the end of the season. Not good. Had he waited until the end of the season them moved on the Hatred he has created would have been avoided. It's not the fact he's moved on, it's the way that he did it. Oh, by the way, £50 k per year, not bad money, there are plenty out there who would like to be earning that.

Exactly. Couldn't have put it better. He left all his mates, his club, his fans. For the sake of his missus and child. Brave move. Whitehead said in this paper it was sneaky, most fans curse him. You know what? He has doubled his wage. His kids are secure. When he tucks them in bed at night, you think he is worried what you or me think? Or he is happy that by the time he is 30 he is nearly mortgage free, that his kids get a nice holiday, that the fridge is full. . The clubs payment stratgedy is (was) wrong. His hand was forced. . 50k salary is not bad you say? Maybe for a checkut girl. But this is an international, professional, rugby league player. 50k is poor. . Hells bells, you only have to read about Hargreaves and Ainscough. Bryn retired at 26!!! A talent like that! Ainy may be forced to work in a timber mill. He is 22!!! . It is no way FC or OK fault, but there's mismanagement with salary's. Do you know any other club that is losing two first team players (Ainy and Bryn), under the age of 27, to another trade? . We also lost Crookes and Burgess. That is now three homegron players. Something is or was wrong.

SPOT ON!
the goings on at bradford bulls...were and still are very dodgy- you will find out soon. Hint! southernwood!
if bulls paid scruton that then i need say no more! all the other other SL clubs are laughing at us. we are a joke. we have no money in the pot to buy players as naz, langley, scruton, le'strange, kearney, lulia, platt are all AVERAGE AT BEST but commanding bigger wages than leeds rhino players- world club champions and superleague winners. go away and think about that.

bulls did have many opportunities to improve koppy's wage but failed to recognise his improvement. why reward home grown when you can pay NRL rejects! poor donno is missing out on being signed because of this.

no compo for bulls. koppy never played for ok bulls so how can they warrant compensation. there are a lot of uneducated muppets posting on this site with zero inside knowledge on the FACTS

A N Oldman wrote:
Kopout was one of the assets bought by OK Bulls and as such had a liability to play for the club. By walking out on the Bulls he broke HIS contract with the club. So, where are you coming from with the garbage, that the Bulls are walking into something bigger than Harrisgate. I know, no bloody where. Talk as you walk eh, FAKE.

A N Oldman wrote:
Statement from RFL site, http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/264 38/giants-snap-up-ko pczak

VJ Man wrote:
The club were in administration so Kopout was legally allowed to terminate his contract for free. The giants owe us nothing.

flashdonut wrote:
50k, when Scruton is on 100k?
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Also funny how nobody has put apoint over regards JP, Fielden, Bryn or Ainy.
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Maybe because I am right.
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It is not greed. It is getting your fair and equal pay in that industry. Of course it is a very good salary. I would love it. But in the RL industry, it is not the best. Just how it is.

Steam Pigs wrote:

VJ Man wrote: The club were in administration so Kopout was legally allowed to terminate his contract for free. The giants owe us nothing.

read the RFL statement - they HAVE paid for the transfer of his registration

Uglytruth wrote:

Steam Pigs wrote:

VJ Man wrote: The club were in administration so Kopout was legally allowed to terminate his contract for free. The giants owe us nothing.

read the RFL statement - they HAVE paid for the transfer of his registration

again can I reiterate
this is not a statement, but a copy of what the journo above has written above.

if bulls had gotten compo wouldnt/ shouldnt they be shouting from the rooftops as it would mean we could actually make a signing.

reading between the lines- if what fran cummins said about koppy wage being tied up stopping signings then we are in a big mess as does this mean we only have 50k left in the budget for signing players, we only have 19 so far. **** we
are screwed

Steam Pigs wrote:

VJ Man wrote:
The club were in administration so Kopout was legally allowed to terminate his contract for free. The giants owe us nothing.

read the RFL statement - they HAVE paid for the transfer of his registration

Uglytruth wrote:

A N Oldman wrote:
Statement from RFL site, http://www.therfl.co .uk/news/article/264 38/giants-snap-up-ko pczak

A N Oldman
do you have learning difficulties? this isnt a statement its a copied and pasted article from the t&a
which you have read above these comments.
stop being so bitter and twisted, yes we are all envious, jealous of giants but we need to re group as fans and try and bring bradford bulls back to the glory days.
oh and yes i am an insider, i worked for the club for over a decade

VJ Man wrote:

Steam Pigs wrote:

VJ Man wrote:
The club were in administration so Kopout was legally allowed to terminate his contract for free. The giants owe us nothing.

read the RFL statement - they HAVE paid for the transfer of his registration

That is transfer of registration not buying out his remaining contract. Two entirely different things costing two entirely different sums of money.

Steam Pigs wrote:

VJ Man wrote:

Steam Pigs wrote:

VJ Man wrote:
The club were in administration so Kopout was legally allowed to terminate his contract for free. The giants owe us nothing.

read the RFL statement - they HAVE paid for the transfer of his registration

That is transfer of registration not buying out his remaining contract. Two entirely different things costing two entirely different sums of money.

agreed but the Giants have agreed to pay us something......

rogerthat! wrote:
Giants Managing Director Richard Thewlis commented:

"I am delighted to confirm that the Giants have reached agreement with the Bulls in respect of transference of the playing registration of Craig Kopczak which the RFL say will be accepted when they receive the usual paperwork. Craig will be a wonderful addition to our squad and add his considerable presence to our pack. His situation seems to have been played out to almost to death in the media but he now knows a line is drawn under the matter and once his commitments to Wales are complete he will have a short break and then join the Giants pre season preparations._


NO COMPO PAID
FACT!

Tricky Dicky wrote:
So, there's is obviously still a money stream flowing at the Giants. IMO, though, I do not see the Giants improving with the squad they have and simply by throwing money at their problems will not plug the gaps. I think Fielden and Kopzak will not find success down Leeds Road but good luck to both. Unless the Bulls have a marque signing up their sleeves then ticket sales will continue to struggle and the squad will remain lightweight. Too much emphasis has been given to retaining and recruiting backs when, after losing an entire pack, the search should have been on for seasoned forwards who may wish to give it one last year at the Bulls. After spending most of the first two years, of a very generous contract, on the sidelines, a great deal will be expected of Mr Scruton, where average will not be good enough. I hope that Mr Langley finally moves up to the front row, easing problems there, and a ball-playing back row forward(s) can be recruited. If we are to spend up to the salary cap, it is mystifying (comparing the Bulls squad with other SL cap-limit sides) where and on whom all this money goes?

rogerthat! wrote:
seems to be a lot of confiential info re wages being leaked, thats because a few at bulls obviously have loose lips!
players brag as do employees and this must stop if the club is to move forward.

also no fee paid by giants. its only mr t&a who has published this. can he provide the details...!

rogerthat! wrote:
All you lot do not like the TRUTH .Players and friends talk, come on.Are we any near making any signings thats more important than the rubbish being posted

Capabull wrote:
I can`t believe how some posters on here think they know players wages and fool us into believing that they do.
How does a d*ckhead who posts on here know what Scruton Kopcheque or any Bulls player earns!!! Grow up and get a life you TROLLS

Capabull wrote:
I can`t believe how some posters on here think they know players wages and fool us into believing that they do.
How does a d*ckhead who posts on here know what Scruton Kopcheque or any Bulls player earns!!! Grow up and get a life you TROLLS

Capabull wrote:

rogerthat! wrote:
seems to be a lot of confiential info re wages being leaked, thats because a few at bulls obviously have loose lips!
players brag as do employees and this must stop if the club is to move forward.

also no fee paid by giants. its only mr t&a who has published this. can he provide the details...!

Any employee who leaked such info would be in breach of contract. Very few employees will know the wages with exception of a wages clerk if the Bulls have one. Fly your kite somewhere else clown.

theviking62 wrote:
Roger, the truth. You wouldn't know it, if bit you on your anus. Truth is a compensation payment has been made. Do you think the move would have been sanctioned by the RFL if not. There was still a year of his contract to run. Giants have payed compo for that. FAKE. Keep trying. Bulls supporters couldn't give a bigger what happens to Kopout, now. Onwards and upwards Bulls.

theviking62 wrote:
Flash,you know some wrong'uns. Giving out personnal info re people's mortgages. Wow what would sonny say about that I wonder. All in breach of rules and regs. The Bulls rcd a compensation payment FACT. ALL you so called insiders take note. Your are all wrong. So before posting check your facts. I did.

theviking62 wrote:
Flash,you know some wrong'uns. Giving out personnal info re people's mortgages. Wow what would sonny say about that I wonder. All in breach of rules and regs. The Bulls rcd a compensation payment FACT. ALL you so called insiders take note. Your are all wrong. So before posting check your facts. I did.

flashdonut wrote:

Capabull wrote:
I can`t believe how some posters on here think they know players wages and fool us into believing that they do.
How does a d*ckhead who posts on here know what Scruton Kopcheque or any Bulls player earns!!! Grow up and get a life you TROLLS

We don't know the truth. It is pure guesswork. It is reading between the lines. However, Bryn himself, in a interview in this paper, said that the wage difference is ridiculous.
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I DO know though what two players earn. Down to the penny. As I did with three previous players over the rears. As with most people, they need a mortgage. To get a mortgage you need proof of income. A friend has SHOWN me letters. Not just whispered. The first one I ever saw was Sonny Nickle's, must be 17 years ago? It was from the Bulls, with a directors signature. Can't remember who. It confirmed his basic was 65k, plus any bonus'. Fact. Word gets around. We have had. and still have, some big financial emplyers in this City. Bradford & Bingley, YBS (bottom of Leeds road that deals in Mortage's).
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Also, quit the personal insults. Sat behind the keyboard throwing insults is quite childish.

Steam Pigs wrote:

flashdonut wrote:

Capabull wrote:
I can`t believe how some posters on here think they know players wages and fool us into believing that they do.
How does a d*ckhead who posts on here know what Scruton Kopcheque or any Bulls player earns!!! Grow up and get a life you TROLLS

We don't know the truth. It is pure guesswork. It is reading between the lines. However, Bryn himself, in a interview in this paper, said that the wage difference is ridiculous.
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I DO know though what two players earn. Down to the penny. As I did with three previous players over the rears. As with most people, they need a mortgage. To get a mortgage you need proof of income. A friend has SHOWN me letters. Not just whispered. The first one I ever saw was Sonny Nickle's, must be 17 years ago? It was from the Bulls, with a directors signature. Can't remember who. It confirmed his basic was 65k, plus any bonus'. Fact. Word gets around. We have had. and still have, some big financial emplyers in this City. Bradford & Bingley, YBS (bottom of Leeds road that deals in Mortage's).
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Also, quit the personal insults. Sat behind the keyboard throwing insults is quite childish.

Flash - data and consumer protection

theviking62 wrote:
Flash, not getting confused I believe you are. We have rcd compo for KopOut Kid. The amount we will never know. It was for the remainder of his contract and for his registration.

theviking62 wrote:
VJ, I suggest you do what I did and look on the others sites or contact Odsal. Who will be able to furnish your request. Why should Ihave to prove to you what researched.You are all the same plenty of gob, when you think your right, but doubt all others being right. Oh, am I right, YES. Give you a clue, try reading other sites.

A SENSIBLE LADY wrote:
VJ Well done for owning the forum clown, The payment received it is not enough to give the toilets a lick of paint and is just a token payment.

VJ Man wrote:

theviking62 wrote: VJ, I suggest you do what I did and look on the others sites or contact Odsal. Who will be able to furnish your request. Why should Ihave to prove to you what researched.You are all the same plenty of gob, when you think your right, but doubt all others being right. Oh, am I right, YES. Give you a clue, try reading other sites.

As I thought, not a clue. Just like some others on this site, you claim to be "in the know", but you know nothing. Stop bigging yourself up to be any better than anyone else on this site and just admit you know nothing. The two clubs have agreed a compensation deal, for all we know that could be zero.

theviking62 wrote:
Read this you over opinionated, prat. Taken from the SLE web site.


The confirmed departure of Kopczak is a blow to the Bulls, who have also lost Tom Burgess, Bryn Hargreaves, Ian Sibbit, Ben Jeffries, Olivier Elima and Jason Crookes from their 2012 squad, but resolution of the impasse will enable new coach Francis Cummins to press ahead with his re-building.

“We are happy with the agreement that has been reached,” said Bradford football manager Stuart Duffy.
As I've said they have got a payment as I also said you should read more. Plus the Bulls are not going to give out the If you still don't believe me I suggest you contact the Bulls direct.

As to being in the know, I am. Not bigging myself up like most of your ilk on here. All I can see is the fact that you post so much brag you always believe what you say. Again your an over opinionated, prat. That needs to get real and realise that some of us don't guess things.

VJ Man wrote:

theviking62 wrote: Read this you over opinionated, prat. Taken from the SLE web site. The confirmed departure of Kopczak is a blow to the Bulls, who have also lost Tom Burgess, Bryn Hargreaves, Ian Sibbit, Ben Jeffries, Olivier Elima and Jason Crookes from their 2012 squad, but resolution of the impasse will enable new coach Francis Cummins to press ahead with his re-building. “We are happy with the agreement that has been reached,” said Bradford football manager Stuart Duffy. As I've said they have got a payment as I also said you should read more. Plus the Bulls are not going to give out the If you still don't believe me I suggest you contact the Bulls direct. As to being in the know, I am. Not bigging myself up like most of your ilk on here. All I can see is the fact that you post so much brag you always believe what you say. Again your an over opinionated, prat. That needs to get real and realise that some of us don't guess things.

Exactly, an agreement has been reached. Where in that statement does it say we have received a sum of money for Kopout?? Pot/kettle/black I think. Speaking of TBC, where is your friend these days?

A SENSIBLE LADY wrote:

VJ Man wrote:

theviking62 wrote: Read this you over opinionated, prat. Taken from the SLE web site. The confirmed departure of Kopczak is a blow to the Bulls, who have also lost Tom Burgess, Bryn Hargreaves, Ian Sibbit, Ben Jeffries, Olivier Elima and Jason Crookes from their 2012 squad, but resolution of the impasse will enable new coach Francis Cummins to press ahead with his re-building. “We are happy with the agreement that has been reached,” said Bradford football manager Stuart Duffy. As I've said they have got a payment as I also said you should read more. Plus the Bulls are not going to give out the If you still don't believe me I suggest you contact the Bulls direct. As to being in the know, I am. Not bigging myself up like most of your ilk on here. All I can see is the fact that you post so much brag you always believe what you say. Again your an over opinionated, prat. That needs to get real and realise that some of us don't guess things.

Exactly, an agreement has been reached. Where in that statement does it say we have received a sum of money for Kopout?? Pot/kettle/black I think. Speaking of TBC, where is your friend these days?

TBC could show him up on a regular basis and he again ran scared to editor and got him banned. BRING BACK TERRYSBLACKCHICKEN

theviking62 wrote:
Nobody shows me up. I find your lack of knowledge refreshing, it tells me that there are people worse off than me. Tbc, slc52, et al. Are nothing but idiots. Who go out of there way to get themselves banned, as you will no doubt do. Trolls, that always refer to type, insults, obscenities, when proven wrong.

A N Oldman wrote:
Bbibby, get thyself gone cretin. Huddersfield have to pay a fee for his services. They have been found not guilty of tapping him up. Kopout had a year of his contract left, they are paying for that, plus the cost of our investment in him. Just like they, Giants, are asking for Adam Walker. You have to be thick to see that the RFL would not have sanctioned the move if there had not been a fee involved. This is FACT, FAKE, about time you started talking to yourself.

NORTHER1964 wrote:
Just like to say good riddance to the spoilt lad and I hope the eague come down on him ith a hefty fine and ban as we can't have pro players tearing up contracts like he did.

NORTHER1964 wrote:
Just like to say good riddance to the spoilt lad and I hope the eague come down on him ith a hefty fine and ban as we can't have pro players tearing up contracts like he did.

LoyalBull wrote:

NORTHER1964 wrote:
Just like to say good riddance to the spoilt lad and I hope the eague come down on him ith a hefty fine and ban as we can't have pro players tearing up contracts like he did.

The contract was not with OK Bulls.

NORTHER1964 wrote:

LoyalBull wrote:

NORTHER1964 wrote:
Just like to say good riddance to the spoilt lad and I hope the eague come down on him ith a hefty fine and ban as we can't have pro players tearing up contracts like he did.

The contract was not with OK Bulls.

I know but the contract he ripped up was an original bulls contract before OK took over and therefore he breeched contactual rules when we was still playing last season.

flashdonut wrote:
50k, when Scruton is on 100k?
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Also funny how nobody has put apoint over regards JP, Fielden, Bryn or Ainy.
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Maybe because I am right.
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It is not greed. It is getting your fair and equal pay in that industry. Of course it is a very good salary. I would love it. But in the RL industry, it is not the best. Just how it is.

flashdonut wrote:
50k, when Scruton is on 100k?
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Also funny how nobody has put apoint over regards JP, Fielden, Bryn or Ainy.
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Maybe because I am right.
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It is not greed. It is getting your fair and equal pay in that industry. Of course it is a very good salary. I would love it. But in the RL industry, it is not the best. Just how it is.