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No-go area suggestion ‘scaremongering’
1:00am Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Bradford community leaders have accused an Anglican Bishop of "scaremongering" after he claimed certain areas across the UK had become no-go areas for non-Muslims.
Bishop of Rochester, the Right Reverend Michael Nazir-Ali, who was born in Pakistan, said attempts were being made by Islamic extremists to give Britain an increasingly Islamic character.
He cited widespread immigration as a key factor. He said: "One of the results of this has been to further alienate the young from the nation in which they were growing up and also to turn already separate communities into no-go areas where adherence to this ideology has become a mark of acceptability.
"Those of a different faith or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility to them. In many ways, this is but the other side of the coin to Far-Right intimidation."
President of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association in Bradford, Dr Abdul Bary Malik, said he did not know what the Bishop was trying to achieve with such "scaremongering".
Dr Malik said: "Firstly I do not think there are so called no-go areas in this country. There is segregation unfortunately, which is a worrying trend but the language he has used is inflammatory.
"Bishop Nazir-Ali comes from Pakistan so he should understand Islamic culture better than anyone.
"At this time, New Year, when we are trying to spread a message of peace and love, a message like this from a person of this calibre is not helping.
"I agree with some of what he is saying. Some communities have segregated themselves but I do not understand what he is trying to achieve by this. Such language creates a climate of fear."
Ishtiaq Ahmed, spokesman for the Bradford Council of Mosques, said Bishop Nazir Ali's comments undermined the good work being done in the city. He said: "We were very surprised to hear Nasir Ali's comments, they certainly do not relate to the situation here in Bradford.
"We feel that a person in his position should be more careful in what he says. Many people in the Muslim community will see him as stirring things up."
The Bishop of Bradford, the Right Reverend David James, said: "I was dismayed to read the inflammatory headline in a Sunday newspaper claiming that Islamic extremists have created no go areas across Britain where it is too dangerous for non Muslims to enter'. We certainly do not recognise this supposed reality in Bradford.
"Of course, we are aware that there are difficulties arising from a significant measure of residential and cultural separation across communities, especially in the inner city. However, this has generated a range of imaginative initiatives such as the nationally-recognised Linking Schools Project, and the University's Programme for a Peaceful City - to name but a few."
Councillor Michael Smith, Bradford Council's executive member for community safety, said he was very disappointed to hear about Bishop Ali's comments.
He said: "They may be more appropriate for the area in which the Bishop lives but we are an enlightened area and have good cohesion."
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albion, west riding says...
6:44am Tue 8 Jan 08
A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
albion, west riding says...
6:44am Tue 8 Jan 08
A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
albion, west riding says...
6:44am Tue 8 Jan 08
A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:24am Tue 8 Jan 08
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:24am Tue 8 Jan 08
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:24am Tue 8 Jan 08
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:24am Tue 8 Jan 08
roadking, bradfiord says...
8:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
roadking, bradfiord says...
8:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
roadking, bradfiord says...
8:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
roadking, bradfiord says...
8:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:29am Tue 8 Jan 08
English as a first language, perhaps?
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:29am Tue 8 Jan 08
English as a first language, perhaps?
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:29am Tue 8 Jan 08
English as a first language, perhaps?
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:29am Tue 8 Jan 08
English as a first language, perhaps?
Darren, Shipley says...
10:03am Tue 8 Jan 08
Darren, Shipley says...
10:03am Tue 8 Jan 08
Darren, Shipley says...
10:03am Tue 8 Jan 08
Darren, Shipley says...
10:03am Tue 8 Jan 08
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
Thanks
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
Thanks
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
Thanks
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:25am Tue 8 Jan 08
Thanks
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:46am Tue 8 Jan 08
And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:46am Tue 8 Jan 08
And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:46am Tue 8 Jan 08
And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:46am Tue 8 Jan 08
And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:49am Tue 8 Jan 08
albion wrote:Live with it
Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:49am Tue 8 Jan 08
albion wrote:Live with it
Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:49am Tue 8 Jan 08
albion wrote:Live with it
Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
Mr T, Bradford says...
11:49am Tue 8 Jan 08
albion wrote:Live with it
Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:51am Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:51am Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:51am Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
chris, BRADFORD says...
11:51am Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Darren, says...
12:06pm Tue 8 Jan 08
chris wrote:The Equalizer could team up with them!
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Darren, says...
12:06pm Tue 8 Jan 08
chris wrote:The Equalizer could team up with them!
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Darren, says...
12:06pm Tue 8 Jan 08
chris wrote:The Equalizer could team up with them!
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Darren, says...
12:06pm Tue 8 Jan 08
chris wrote:The Equalizer could team up with them!
Mr T wrote:MR T go get the A TEAM TO SORT THIS MESS OUT
Firts of all what has no go areas got to do with muslims. young people create no go areas from the so called "gangster metality" which comes from movies and gangster culture (Rap, video games). No go areas has been a culture of britain for many years and has nothing to do with religon. try walking in Moss Side Manchester or some parts of Birmingham on a night (or even day)then people would realise what no go areas are. And by the way Dr malik does not represent the Muslim community.
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
12:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Not lack of parental control then?
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
12:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Not lack of parental control then?
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
12:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Not lack of parental control then?
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
12:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Not lack of parental control then?
why ban me t&a, says...
1:41pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Divers_uk wrote:Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people.
Video games!
Not lack of parental control then?
It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
why ban me t&a, says...
1:41pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Divers_uk wrote:Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people.
Video games!
Not lack of parental control then?
It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
why ban me t&a, says...
1:41pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Divers_uk wrote:Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people.
Video games!
Not lack of parental control then?
It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
why ban me t&a, says...
1:41pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Divers_uk wrote:Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people.
Video games!
Not lack of parental control then?
It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
Mr T, Bradford says...
1:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:You havent played Grant Theft Auto, Scarface, Godfather, 50 Cent. Dont get me wrong most games are fine, i love them but some of these games can influence a young persons mind. Fifa is my favourite
Divers_uk wrote: Video games! Not lack of parental control then?Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people. It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
Mr T, Bradford says...
1:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:You havent played Grant Theft Auto, Scarface, Godfather, 50 Cent. Dont get me wrong most games are fine, i love them but some of these games can influence a young persons mind. Fifa is my favourite
Divers_uk wrote: Video games! Not lack of parental control then?Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people. It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
Mr T, Bradford says...
1:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:You havent played Grant Theft Auto, Scarface, Godfather, 50 Cent. Dont get me wrong most games are fine, i love them but some of these games can influence a young persons mind. Fifa is my favourite
Divers_uk wrote: Video games! Not lack of parental control then?Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people. It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
Mr T, Bradford says...
1:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:You havent played Grant Theft Auto, Scarface, Godfather, 50 Cent. Dont get me wrong most games are fine, i love them but some of these games can influence a young persons mind. Fifa is my favourite
Divers_uk wrote: Video games! Not lack of parental control then?Please lets not blame this on video game or music videos. I have been playing games all my life and i do not go round killing/ assaulting people. It's bad parenting, most of these scum have parents who are either too drugged or drunk to give a sh!t about what their children are getting up to.
Dan, Bradford says...
2:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
I don't know if this case if different up Manningham way, though I've walked around there late at night and not had trouble either. I guess any of these incidents that do occur are as people have said far more from a wannabe gangster attitude, that's come up with it's own rules, nothing to do with the Islamic community.
Dan, Bradford says...
2:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
I don't know if this case if different up Manningham way, though I've walked around there late at night and not had trouble either. I guess any of these incidents that do occur are as people have said far more from a wannabe gangster attitude, that's come up with it's own rules, nothing to do with the Islamic community.
Dan, Bradford says...
2:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
I don't know if this case if different up Manningham way, though I've walked around there late at night and not had trouble either. I guess any of these incidents that do occur are as people have said far more from a wannabe gangster attitude, that's come up with it's own rules, nothing to do with the Islamic community.
Dan, Bradford says...
2:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
I don't know if this case if different up Manningham way, though I've walked around there late at night and not had trouble either. I guess any of these incidents that do occur are as people have said far more from a wannabe gangster attitude, that's come up with it's own rules, nothing to do with the Islamic community.
zodiac, doncaster says...
5:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
zodiac, doncaster says...
5:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
zodiac, doncaster says...
5:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
zodiac, doncaster says...
5:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
5:29pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:Isnt that what i am doing?
albion wrote: Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.Live with it
albion, west riding says...
5:29pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:Isnt that what i am doing?
albion wrote: Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.Live with it
albion, west riding says...
5:29pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Mr T wrote:Isnt that what i am doing?
albion wrote: Reading this it seems some people dont disagree with him, but condem him for saying it, and what about all those stories some time back about asians threatening people in parks and asking them to leave, saying "this is now our park! A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.Live with it
albion, west riding says...
5:29pm Tue 8 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
6:44am Tue 8 Jan 08
A few years ago a colleague of mine was driving down carlisle road and found a man unconcious in the road, the police officers who attended told him it was a no go area for single white males late at night.