Poppy sellers to get minders after sick abuse last year (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Poppy sellers to get minders after sick abuse last year
7:00am Saturday 20th October 2012 in Bradford
Exclusive By Sally Clifford, T&A Reporter
Teenage poppy seller Bethany Holmes, who suffered abuse last year, pictured with her mother Christine
Security is being provided for young poppy sellers in Bradford this year after some were attacked last year – the first such incidents in the British Legion’s history.
Young Army cadets will have chaperones to protect them from repeats of the abuse some suffered while collecting for the charity.
The volunteers who fundraise tirelessly for the Legion’s annual appeal were sickened by the abuse and assaults suffered by some of their sellers.
Last year the Telegraph & Argus reported how Bethany Holmes, then 13, of the Allerton Army Cadet Force, was one of three teenagers selling remembrance poppies outside The Range store in Girlington, Bradford, when a group of youths began giving the sellers “abuse”.
Her mum Christine said one of them took a poppy from the box, spat on it and tried to give it to her daughter, before spitting at her three times, twice on her jacket and once on her cheek.
“It’s just awful,” said Mrs Holmes, “especially when it touches your skin. She just said to me ‘I need to go home, it feels awful, I feel dirty’.
“They are disgusting, it’s just the lowest of the low.”
Two Asian girl cadets were also verbally abused for selling poppies and two other sellers were set upon in the city centre. One young poppy seller had her tin snatched from her shoulder.
Barbara Allsopp, Poppy Appeal organiser for the Bradford Royal British Legion branch for 13 years, said it was the first time the charity had experienced anything like it.
Concerned the young collectors, who range in ages from ten to 17, could be put off from helping out this year, the Bradford branch has taken up an offer by the Royal British Legion’s Riders branch, the former services motorcycle club, to shadow the youngsters during their collections.
Mrs Allsop said: “It is something we need and it’s ideal because it would keep the cadets safe.”
Rod Walker, West Yorkshire representative for the Legion’s Riders Branch, said: “We are doing this as I was reminded of what happened last year and thought our job is to support the branches, so who would not turn up and do exactly that?
“You have to remember also that the people who were affected by this, the cadets, are youngsters and are very impressionable and in some cases they will turn out to be our future Armed Forces.”
Mr Walker stressed it was not a case of turning up and being ‘hamfisted’.
“We have to educate the public why we are doing these collections,” said Mr Walker.
On Wednesday, Mrs Allsopp will present the first poppy to the Lord Mayor of Bradford, Councillor Dale Smith at City Hall and on Friday the city will host the county-wide Poppy Appeal launch for the first time in nine years.
Comments(145)
Apollo
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8:23am Sat 20 Oct 12
Avro
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8:45am Sat 20 Oct 12
bradfordian
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9:21am Sat 20 Oct 12
Yorkshire Lass
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9:32am Sat 20 Oct 12
bradfordian wrote:You're right. Bradford is not shameful but absoluteley disgusting in certain areas with no repect for other peoples' traditions. In this Country we have always remembered our brave soldiers who fought and died for this Country. This is a supposedly civil Country so anyone who lives here should respect our way of life as we tolerate theirs.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
Andy2010
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9:34am Sat 20 Oct 12
Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason
Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbags
Joedavid
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9:35am Sat 20 Oct 12
bradfordian wrote:These incidents took place in very busy locations yet no one aided these good young people. No reports of the other people going to thier aid or dealing with these that were doing the attacking, your majority just stood back and did nothing it woukld seem.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
Andy2010
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9:45am Sat 20 Oct 12
Joedavid wrote:The reason no one will have intervened is because if they had they would have been accused of racism and would have been up in court quicker than Lance Armstrong could have cycled to the Chemist
bradfordian wrote:These incidents took place in very busy locations yet no one aided these good young people. No reports of the other people going to thier aid or dealing with these that were doing the attacking, your majority just stood back and did nothing it woukld seem.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
Skagbagger
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9:51am Sat 20 Oct 12
Staggered the T&A has even allowed posts on this story given we all know that the offenders were the feral Asian youth who blight this once great city.
fabricator666
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10:19am Sat 20 Oct 12
bingleybantam-ms54
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10:22am Sat 20 Oct 12
Albion.
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11:05am Sat 20 Oct 12
bradfordian wrote:It doesn't happen in other places that I frequent, I gather that there were more incidents than those featured in this report.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
Albion.
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11:07am Sat 20 Oct 12
Andy2010 wrote:We aren't fighting in Iraq.
Well said Yorkshire Lass
Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason
Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbags
MontyLeMar
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11:10am Sat 20 Oct 12
fabricator666 wrote:Multiculturalism innit? 33% of Bradford holds Islam as its main faith. Our boys fighting in Islamic countries was bound to provoke a reaction. But hey, so long as they let me in the pub, who cares? It's beyond hope with a bunch of politicians who believe the Westminster bubble is actually what the rest of the world is like.
Nobody would dare come to the aid of these poppy sellers because they know that if they did there would be dozens of feral asian youths around them within minutes. Girlington is not a safe place anymore and the same can be said for most of Bradford. You don't have to travel far away to see how far Bradford has sunk, and it is sinking further. I can't wait to get out and forget this hole
I hope you do find a pleasant land to forget Bradford. Going anywhere nice? You could take the dreams of a city with you. New Zealand is nice.
amber111
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11:24am Sat 20 Oct 12
I return every year to see family and friends and I can't believe how bad it is now...it use to be a lovely city back in the 60's - 70's even the 80's....shame.
Something has got to be done.
amber111
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11:42am Sat 20 Oct 12
Albion.
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11:51am Sat 20 Oct 12
amber111 wrote:We see photo's and video's of wrongdoers every day, many of them are never found.
Why not have somebody ready to take a photo of these people who are shameful to poppy seller's and have them before the courts.
oswald777
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12:23pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Andy2010 wrote:The people that abused the poppy sellers do go to Iraq to fight......against our soldiers though.
Well said Yorkshire Lass
Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason
Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbags
oswald777
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12:26pm Sat 20 Oct 12
amber111
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12:44pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Commonsensefirst
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1:00pm Sat 20 Oct 12
fabricator666
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1:09pm Sat 20 Oct 12
MontyLeMar wrote:anywhere is better than here, Absolutely anywhere
fabricator666 wrote:Multiculturalism innit? 33% of Bradford holds Islam as its main faith. Our boys fighting in Islamic countries was bound to provoke a reaction. But hey, so long as they let me in the pub, who cares? It's beyond hope with a bunch of politicians who believe the Westminster bubble is actually what the rest of the world is like.
Nobody would dare come to the aid of these poppy sellers because they know that if they did there would be dozens of feral asian youths around them within minutes. Girlington is not a safe place anymore and the same can be said for most of Bradford. You don't have to travel far away to see how far Bradford has sunk, and it is sinking further. I can't wait to get out and forget this hole
I hope you do find a pleasant land to forget Bradford. Going anywhere nice? You could take the dreams of a city with you. New Zealand is nice.
Marty12
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1:13pm Sat 20 Oct 12
amber111 wrote:It could be argued that the multiculturalists will be to blame when Bradford (as well as Oldham, Dewsbury, Birmingham, Slough etc) explode in our very own version of the Balkans. Like any grievance, the frustrations built on having to give tolerance and respect to those in our midst who hate us will build up and come to a head. Well done the Labour Party, and fellow travellers!
Who wants to live side by side with Islam - I can assure you not me...that's why I left Bradford...I could see it coming.
The Hoffster
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1:23pm Sat 20 Oct 12
oswald777 wrote:Quiet, Islamophobe.
And people still say we should be proud of our 'multi-cultural' city !!! Nobody on the planet can live side by side in peace with Islam.
The Hoffster
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1:24pm Sat 20 Oct 12
amber111 wrote:Good.
Who wants to live side by side with Islam - I can assure you not me...that's why I left Bradford...I could see it coming.
The more the Islamophobes leave (and take their vile hatred with them), the better for everyone concerned.
amber111
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2:23pm Sat 20 Oct 12
amber111
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2:23pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Albion.
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2:29pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Prisoner Cell Block A
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3:01pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Idiots abound on either side of this argument, soon be time to pick a side I think.
Apollo
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4:37pm Sat 20 Oct 12
moanmoanwhingewhinge
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5:20pm Sat 20 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Perhaps if these heroes weren't openly attacking teenage girls in our streets people wouldn't need to comment and be tarred with the 'islamophobe' brush you wheel out any time anyone objects to any aspect of your 'religion of peace'. I suppose we should be thankful schoolgirls aren't being shot in the head on their way home from school ... yet. 'Islamaphobes' (i.e any non-Muslim, in your eyes) have been leaving Bradford steadlily for the last 30 years or more but I wouldn't say the city is getting 'better for EVERYONE concerned'
oswald777 wrote:Quiet, Islamophobe.
And people still say we should be proud of our 'multi-cultural' city !!! Nobody on the planet can live side by side in peace with Islam.
Joedavid
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5:28pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Apollo wrote:http://www.youtube.c
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
om/watch?v=1A6lU3_qk
lE
Albion.
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5:37pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Joedavid wrote:I should like to bestow on you the order of "best link of the month", certain others would probably like to bestow something else upon you! :-)
Apollo wrote:http://www.youtube.c
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
om/watch?v=1A6lU3_qk
lE
Patrick Bateman
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6:09pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Joedavid wrote:I wonder what would happen to Churchill if he were alive today and making such observations? Statesman and visionary, his comments today seem more prescient than ever.
Apollo wrote:http://www.youtube.c
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
om/watch?v=1A6lU3_qk
lE
The Hoffster
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7:02pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
The Hoffster
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7:05pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Patrick Bateman wrote:He'd be in the same league as Nick Griffin.
Joedavid wrote:I wonder what would happen to Churchill if he were alive today and making such observations? Statesman and visionary, his comments today seem more prescient than ever.
Apollo wrote:http://www.youtube.c
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
om/watch?v=1A6lU3_qk
lE
Racist and religious hatred has *NO* place in a decent, civilised society.
Albion.
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7:44pm Sat 20 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:That wasn't hatred, it was opinion. If it wasn't for him you wouldn't be here (or anywhere else come to that).
Patrick Bateman wrote:He'd be in the same league as Nick Griffin.
Joedavid wrote:I wonder what would happen to Churchill if he were alive today and making such observations? Statesman and visionary, his comments today seem more prescient than ever.
Apollo wrote:http://www.youtube.c
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
om/watch?v=1A6lU3_qk
lE
Racist and religious hatred has *NO* place in a decent, civilised society.
SinnerSaint
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7:45pm Sat 20 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
puddingandpi
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8:04pm Sat 20 Oct 12
And it wasn't Asian people who were bitter, spiteful, hateful, nasty, resentful, ignorant & spat out revolting racism at every turn.
I am so glad to have left - anywhere that produces 3 serial killers can't be a good place to live.
The Hoffster
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8:19pm Sat 20 Oct 12
SinnerSaint wrote:Stop invading their lands and propping up dictators, and maybe there'll be change?
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
What do you think ?
The Hoffster
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8:20pm Sat 20 Oct 12
puddingandpi wrote:Some very interesting points there.
I too am glad to have left Bradford - it is a total sh1th0le. However, it wasn't the Asian residents I had a problem with, it was the white ones. No Asian has ever bullied me, beat me up, raped me, burgled me, called me nasty names, spat at me, tortured my animals or dumped clapped out bangers in my garden.
And it wasn't Asian people who were bitter, spiteful, hateful, nasty, resentful, ignorant & spat out revolting racism at every turn.
I am so glad to have left - anywhere that produces 3 serial killers can't be a good place to live.
Let's hope the Islamophobes take note.
SinnerSaint
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8:24pm Sat 20 Oct 12
What do YOU think?
SinnerSaint
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8:42pm Sat 20 Oct 12
And let's not forget what triggered the war in Afghanistan.
TirNaNog
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9:25pm Sat 20 Oct 12
Albion. wrote:Don't spoil it Albion. I had visions of Bluto out of Animal House when reading that.
Andy2010 wrote:We aren't fighting in Iraq.
Well said Yorkshire Lass
Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason
Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbags
"Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" ;-)
justjustice
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9:48pm Sat 20 Oct 12
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The Hoffster
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9:49pm Sat 20 Oct 12
SinnerSaint wrote:If you think we don't have a hand in there somewhere, then you're a very deluded individual.
I don't see any invasions in Libya, Somalia, Egypt, Kuwait, Morocco etc. And yet there is still unrest, violence, burnings, murder, horrific civil rights abuse etc, etc.
What do YOU think?
The Hoffster
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9:51pm Sat 20 Oct 12
justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said.
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses.
They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...
Albion.
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7:11am Sun 21 Oct 12
Let's not forget what this report is about and the probable fact that some of the wrongdoers were just peer pressure show off's, whatever their religious or racial background. They aren't however helping the situation, much like those who protest and claim vengeance for the crusades, or those who abuse military funeral parades, all of whom certainly claim to represent their faith.
octyvrs
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7:13am Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:I agree. And just wait until the "Islamic Brotherhood" gain a foothold in those countries. The burka will become commonplace, public beheadings, (yes, the disgusting ones littering the Internet) will become more widespread. Bombings and mass shootings will happen everyday. I suppose all that is the fault of the nasty colonialist west too... Bla, bla, zzzzzzz.
SinnerSaint wrote:If you think we don't have a hand in there somewhere, then you're a very deluded individual.
I don't see any invasions in Libya, Somalia, Egypt, Kuwait, Morocco etc. And yet there is still unrest, violence, burnings, murder, horrific civil rights abuse etc, etc.
What do YOU think?
I actually agree with the Muslims who want our troops out of their "Islamic lands" I do too. Muslims believe we are there for the oil. There is enough oil in the west to sustain us for decades, we should withdraw our precious troops and leave them to it. Muslim countries should be allowed to govern themselves without our intervention. If they choose to murder, bomb and slaughter each other then that is their choice. Not ours.
octyvrs
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7:17am Sun 21 Oct 12
Albion. wrote:A ticking time bomb that our government had allowed to happen. 50 years from now no one will recognise this city.
Islam isn't a religion it is a total way of life, it is incompatible with life as it is here, once the balance has swung numerically into your favour, the "we are nice people" garbage will disappear under a pile of demands.
Let's not forget what this report is about and the probable fact that some of the wrongdoers were just peer pressure show off's, whatever their religious or racial background. They aren't however helping the situation, much like those who protest and claim vengeance for the crusades, or those who abuse military funeral parades, all of whom certainly claim to represent their faith.
octyvrs
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7:21am Sun 21 Oct 12
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thelastmanstanding
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8:12am Sun 21 Oct 12
bradfordian wrote:I didnt hear tales of "The Majority" intervening and heroicly stopping these little girls getting attacked by followers of the religion of peace. No, the majority put their head down and kept going about their business, pretending they hadn't seen or heard anything.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
And if one person had intervened and flattened the culprits, "The Majority" would have branded that man a racist, because "The Majority" are gutless toads who, like dogs with their ears down and with their tales between their legs, are scared of offending the community that the attackers belong to, the result of a former female Labour councillor's "Community Cohesion" brainwashing policy.
"The Majority" of people who reside in Bradford are scum. I am glad I moved away a long time ago.
SinnerSaint
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9:22am Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:The truth is unbearable?
justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said.
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses.
They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...
OF COURSE!! I see it now!! Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc are beautiful, peaceful countries where violence is a thing if the past. Where lunatics don't murder politicians when they don't agree with their policies. Where oppression of the poor is a non-entity! Where women are treated as equal.
And Bradford, oh yes the Muslim areas are the most wonderful areas of the city - litter free, houses and gardens well maintained, beautiful, smiling, well educated, perfectly mannered, welcoming people bidding you a pleasant day.
My word, what a deluded ignoramus sheep I must have been to have missed all that.
SinnerSaint
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9:29am Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Hahahahaha, you are absolutely hilarious. Somalia? Morocco? Hahaha what a joker.
SinnerSaint wrote:If you think we don't have a hand in there somewhere, then you're a very deluded individual.
I don't see any invasions in Libya, Somalia, Egypt, Kuwait, Morocco etc. And yet there is still unrest, violence, burnings, murder, horrific civil rights abuse etc, etc.
What do YOU think?
The Hoffster
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11:24am Sun 21 Oct 12
SinnerSaint wrote:As opposed to BNP/EDL chav hell-holes such as Holmewood, Queensbury, Idle, Fagley, Buttershaw...?
The Hoffster wrote:The truth is unbearable?
justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said.
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses.
They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...
OF COURSE!! I see it now!! Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc are beautiful, peaceful countries where violence is a thing if the past. Where lunatics don't murder politicians when they don't agree with their policies. Where oppression of the poor is a non-entity! Where women are treated as equal.
And Bradford, oh yes the Muslim areas are the most wonderful areas of the city - litter free, houses and gardens well maintained, beautiful, smiling, well educated, perfectly mannered, welcoming people bidding you a pleasant day.
My word, what a deluded ignoramus sheep I must have been to have missed all that.
{rolleyes}
The Hoffster
says...
11:26am Sun 21 Oct 12
thelastmanstanding wrote:So basically what you're saying is that those who didn't intervene are just as cowardly as those who actually carried out the assault.
bradfordian wrote:I didnt hear tales of "The Majority" intervening and heroicly stopping these little girls getting attacked by followers of the religion of peace. No, the majority put their head down and kept going about their business, pretending they hadn't seen or heard anything.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
And if one person had intervened and flattened the culprits, "The Majority" would have branded that man a racist, because "The Majority" are gutless toads who, like dogs with their ears down and with their tales between their legs, are scared of offending the community that the attackers belong to, the result of a former female Labour councillor's "Community Cohesion" brainwashing policy.
"The Majority" of people who reside in Bradford are scum. I am glad I moved away a long time ago.
Thanks :)
bradfordlad
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12:54pm Sun 21 Oct 12
wobbley-bob
says...
12:57pm Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Tut tut Iona. You really need to change the record.
SinnerSaint wrote:As opposed to BNP/EDL chav hell-holes such as Holmewood, Queensbury, Idle, Fagley, Buttershaw...?
The Hoffster wrote:The truth is unbearable?
justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said.
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses.
They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...
OF COURSE!! I see it now!! Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc are beautiful, peaceful countries where violence is a thing if the past. Where lunatics don't murder politicians when they don't agree with their policies. Where oppression of the poor is a non-entity! Where women are treated as equal.
And Bradford, oh yes the Muslim areas are the most wonderful areas of the city - litter free, houses and gardens well maintained, beautiful, smiling, well educated, perfectly mannered, welcoming people bidding you a pleasant day.
My word, what a deluded ignoramus sheep I must have been to have missed all that.
{rolleyes}
Just because an area hasn't been colonised by the likes of you, doesn't make it a BNP/EDL chav hell-hole.
And Fagley will soon be in need of a mosque building if anymore pyjama wearers move in there. Fagley Road is fast becoming the 'new' Barkerend Road.
loftyme
says...
2:05pm Sun 21 Oct 12
A sad reflection of the scum and dirt that now inhabits the inner towns of Bradford.
SinnerSaint
says...
3:17pm Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Every predominantly Muslim populated area in this country is an absolute sh1thole. Bar none. Manchester, Birmingham, Luton, Bradford, East London - all their areas with high numbers of mosques are horrific, rundown ghettos.
SinnerSaint wrote:As opposed to BNP/EDL chav hell-holes such as Holmewood, Queensbury, Idle, Fagley, Buttershaw...?
The Hoffster wrote:The truth is unbearable?
justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said.
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses.
They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...
OF COURSE!! I see it now!! Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc are beautiful, peaceful countries where violence is a thing if the past. Where lunatics don't murder politicians when they don't agree with their policies. Where oppression of the poor is a non-entity! Where women are treated as equal.
And Bradford, oh yes the Muslim areas are the most wonderful areas of the city - litter free, houses and gardens well maintained, beautiful, smiling, well educated, perfectly mannered, welcoming people bidding you a pleasant day.
My word, what a deluded ignoramus sheep I must have been to have missed all that.
{rolleyes}
The difference is that, whilst there are some white trash ghettos, there are some lovely areas populated by people of other faiths. Whereas ALL areas predominately populated by Muslims are holes.
loftyme
says...
4:06pm Sun 21 Oct 12
SinnerSaint wrote:How true !
The Hoffster wrote:Every predominantly Muslim populated area in this country is an absolute sh1thole. Bar none. Manchester, Birmingham, Luton, Bradford, East London - all their areas with high numbers of mosques are horrific, rundown ghettos. The difference is that, whilst there are some white trash ghettos, there are some lovely areas populated by people of other faiths. Whereas ALL areas predominately populated by Muslims are holes.SinnerSaint wrote:As opposed to BNP/EDL chav hell-holes such as Holmewood, Queensbury, Idle, Fagley, Buttershaw...? {rolleyes}The Hoffster wrote:The truth is unbearable? OF COURSE!! I see it now!! Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc are beautiful, peaceful countries where violence is a thing if the past. Where lunatics don't murder politicians when they don't agree with their policies. Where oppression of the poor is a non-entity! Where women are treated as equal. And Bradford, oh yes the Muslim areas are the most wonderful areas of the city - litter free, houses and gardens well maintained, beautiful, smiling, well educated, perfectly mannered, welcoming people bidding you a pleasant day. My word, what a deluded ignoramus sheep I must have been to have missed all that.justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said. The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses. They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK. And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs. What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad". e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head. You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare. Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so. 90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam. In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims. Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?Apollo wrote: I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it. Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about. You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
Colin Allcars
says...
6:30pm Sun 21 Oct 12
Ah lidget green, what went wrong?
Colin Allcars
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6:31pm Sun 21 Oct 12
Joedavid wrote:"your majority" don't you belong here, then?
bradfordian wrote:These incidents took place in very busy locations yet no one aided these good young people. No reports of the other people going to thier aid or dealing with these that were doing the attacking, your majority just stood back and did nothing it woukld seem.
Bradford is NOT ashameful. You cannot blame the majority for three incidents which happenned to the poppy sellers. Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush
Colin Allcars
says...
6:35pm Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:does that include the ones that practice in the Pakistani taliban who got the go ahead from 'learned scholars' to shoot a schoolgirl in the head?
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
pweibj67
says...
6:36pm Sun 21 Oct 12
ok perhaps its a minority .. but this minority is NOT one or two bad eggs!! we are talking the vast majority of man under 23 ish!!
As the POLICEMAN!!!!!! said to me .. white man in ivygate .. don't do it!!! however i was out of the ordinary being a 6ft well built man!! ... they normaly target young girls or older people as they offer least resistance!!!
PS
I was accused of being a racist .. as i refused to hand over my mobile phone when ask .. !!! I was accused again of being a racist as i called the police ... allegedly i wouldn't have called the police if these youths had been english and would have just handed over my phone!
pps .. however i was assisted by a nice Asian couple who was totally ashamed of their fellow muslim actions .. so yes its not EVERY muslim
Colin Allcars
says...
6:40pm Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Fagley! Do you mean Fagley taxis, Fagley Halal butchers etc.....
SinnerSaint wrote:As opposed to BNP/EDL chav hell-holes such as Holmewood, Queensbury, Idle, Fagley, Buttershaw...?
The Hoffster wrote:The truth is unbearable?
justjustice wrote:No doubt the sheep will discredit everything you've said.
SinnerSaint wrote:90%, that's a nice figure, where did you get it from? from where the Sun dont shine? Dont be so silly, there are wars everywhere, not just in Muslim countries, and guess what the US is the major cause of them, either directly or indirectly but selling arms, and so is the UK.
The Hoffster wrote:Pleasantly surprised? I shouldn't think so.
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
90% of the wars currently underway on this planet are in "Muslim Lands". War, violence, burning, shooting, damage to property, over violent demonstrations are all synonymous with the religion that is Islam.
In Bradford and Keighley, shootings, gang violence, house and car arson is rife and all perpetrated by young Muslims.
Is it any wonder people are frightened of Islam?
And no, the crime in the district isnt by young muslims, but young asians. Just because they are asian does not mean they are muslim. In fact you'll find these "muslims" not going to mosque to prayer, drinking booze etc. They arent muslims, they are just the asian chavs, the equivalent of white chavs.
What you should be afraid of is how our government let it get like this, and how they have fooled you into believing in "islamic terrorism". You can bet that if you ask anyone in the UK about terrorism and ask what religion is behind it, they will say Islam even when it's not. And even these "islamic terrorists" are not abiding by islamic laws; Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians, that and they have killed jsut as many, is not more real musllims with their "jihad".
e.g. the Pakistani girl who was standing up for girl's education, the taliban shot her in the head.
You really need to check all your news stories you hear, you cannot even trust the BBC today, it too has become too biased over certain issues. Try Russian Today instead, but also check out other channels and papers from around the world to compare.
Remember, history was written by the winners, today we have the internet, with it we can get everyone's side of the story and judge, this is why the governments want to control and cencor the web, the internet is a powerful tool for spreading the truth our governments hide from us. e.g Assange and wikileaks.
The truth is too unbearable for these ignoramuses.
They just can't handle it (as a certain 'T Cruise' said once)...
OF COURSE!! I see it now!! Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq etc are beautiful, peaceful countries where violence is a thing if the past. Where lunatics don't murder politicians when they don't agree with their policies. Where oppression of the poor is a non-entity! Where women are treated as equal.
And Bradford, oh yes the Muslim areas are the most wonderful areas of the city - litter free, houses and gardens well maintained, beautiful, smiling, well educated, perfectly mannered, welcoming people bidding you a pleasant day.
My word, what a deluded ignoramus sheep I must have been to have missed all that.
{rolleyes}
Fancy comparing Idle and Queensbury to the (now) slums of Barkerend and Girlington
jam1966
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7:10pm Sun 21 Oct 12
The Hoffster
says...
7:17pm Sun 21 Oct 12
Colin Allcars wrote:I'm referring to the (practicing) Muslims of Bradford, not Afghanistan.
The Hoffster wrote:does that include the ones that practice in the Pakistani taliban who got the go ahead from 'learned scholars' to shoot a schoolgirl in the head?
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
Please try to digest that.
Thanks.
thelastmanstanding
says...
5:13am Mon 22 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:There are British-born Muslims in the Taliban, usually practicing Muslims from places like Bradford.
Colin Allcars wrote:I'm referring to the (practicing) Muslims of Bradford, not Afghanistan. Please try to digest that. Thanks.The Hoffster wrote:does that include the ones that practice in the Pakistani taliban who got the go ahead from 'learned scholars' to shoot a schoolgirl in the head?Apollo wrote: I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it. Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about. You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
Another thing, is the religion that Muslim's in Bradford follow any different to the religion that Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan follow?
BD16-And-Annoyed
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8:34am Mon 22 Oct 12
puddingandpi wrote:Well said, I've had a couple of Asian related issues in Bradford but it was a white guy that put me in hospital, a white guy that beat my friend over the head with a metal bar giving him permanent mental disabilities and two white girls who left two of my female friends with facial swelling like a cricket ball to the eye socket! Let's face it, Bradford as a whole is a dump, it doesn't have to always resort to which race is worst etc....there are good/bad Asians just as there are whites, it's the bad ones (regardless of race) that make Bradford an unfriendly, run down place to be. I was in Leeds this weekend and Bradford has nothing on it....hence why ill be moving from the BD area as soon as possible.
I too am glad to have left Bradford - it is a total sh1th0le. However, it wasn't the Asian residents I had a problem with, it was the white ones. No Asian has ever bullied me, beat me up, raped me, burgled me, called me nasty names, spat at me, tortured my animals or dumped clapped out bangers in my garden.
And it wasn't Asian people who were bitter, spiteful, hateful, nasty, resentful, ignorant & spat out revolting racism at every turn.
I am so glad to have left - anywhere that produces 3 serial killers can't be a good place to live.
BD16
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8:44am Mon 22 Oct 12
BD16-And-Annoyed wrote:That's the way I see it as well. I'm hoping to be away from Bradford in a year or two as I don't want my kids growing up where incidents, such as the ones you mentioned, happen. They may be isolated incidents but they add up to create an atmosphere that makes me want to get away.
puddingandpi wrote: I too am glad to have left Bradford - it is a total sh1th0le. However, it wasn't the Asian residents I had a problem with, it was the white ones. No Asian has ever bullied me, beat me up, raped me, burgled me, called me nasty names, spat at me, tortured my animals or dumped clapped out bangers in my garden. And it wasn't Asian people who were bitter, spiteful, hateful, nasty, resentful, ignorant & spat out revolting racism at every turn. I am so glad to have left - anywhere that produces 3 serial killers can't be a good place to live.Well said, I've had a couple of Asian related issues in Bradford but it was a white guy that put me in hospital, a white guy that beat my friend over the head with a metal bar giving him permanent mental disabilities and two white girls who left two of my female friends with facial swelling like a cricket ball to the eye socket! Let's face it, Bradford as a whole is a dump, it doesn't have to always resort to which race is worst etc....there are good/bad Asians just as there are whites, it's the bad ones (regardless of race) that make Bradford an unfriendly, run down place to be. I was in Leeds this weekend and Bradford has nothing on it....hence why ill be moving from the BD area as soon as possible.
The Bradford I remember from the early eighties to the early nineties has vanished and I don't like what it's become.
irish bantam
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10:28am Mon 22 Oct 12
ANY WHERE BUT HERE
says...
10:53am Mon 22 Oct 12
Young Pakistani girl gets shot in HEAD advocating the right to a Education. Muslims around the world go quiet.
It seems the Muslims of the world are Backward people.
StickyIKY
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11:52am Mon 22 Oct 12
the scumbags who spat on the girl and the poppy need to be punished.
but why wasnt this revealed last year?... why reveal it now?
the taliban who shot the girl are obviously oppressors of women, and have been for centuries so nothing new there. (and women in uk were only allowed to vote not too long ago)... so let them catch up.
in bfd its not only asians who sell drugs its the whites also...holmewood estate, canterbury estate..etc etc
killing of civillians by jihad or by joy stick powered drones is all the same!...
like it or not we have had hand in all wars...with intent / passively.
so stop trolling and do something positive in the community and make some changes.....maybe you white / asian neighbours will appreciate you.
A worthy experiment would be to chuck you all in a room and see what happens?
live and let live! and dont hate. peace
loftyme
says...
12:09pm Mon 22 Oct 12
assistance is needed for the next 3 saturdays, ring Bradford Legion branch for details
Albion.
says...
12:20pm Mon 22 Oct 12
StickyIKY wrote:It was revealed last year! Even the same photograph was featured.
ok there seems to be a bit of a mix on this msg board, so lets get this clear.
the scumbags who spat on the girl and the poppy need to be punished.
but why wasnt this revealed last year?... why reveal it now?
the taliban who shot the girl are obviously oppressors of women, and have been for centuries so nothing new there. (and women in uk were only allowed to vote not too long ago)... so let them catch up.
in bfd its not only asians who sell drugs its the whites also...holmewood estate, canterbury estate..etc etc
killing of civillians by jihad or by joy stick powered drones is all the same!...
like it or not we have had hand in all wars...with intent / passively.
so stop trolling and do something positive in the community and make some changes.....maybe you white / asian neighbours will appreciate you.
A worthy experiment would be to chuck you all in a room and see what happens?
live and let live! and dont hate. peace
Prisoner Cell Block A
says...
1:01pm Mon 22 Oct 12
StickyIKY wrote:Channel4 did this earlier this year, varying results but basically people in isolation usually engage and tolerate/get on with each other than groups of opposing factions.
ok there seems to be a bit of a mix on this msg board, so lets get this clear.
the scumbags who spat on the girl and the poppy need to be punished.
but why wasnt this revealed last year?... why reveal it now?
the taliban who shot the girl are obviously oppressors of women, and have been for centuries so nothing new there. (and women in uk were only allowed to vote not too long ago)... so let them catch up.
in bfd its not only asians who sell drugs its the whites also...holmewood estate, canterbury estate..etc etc
killing of civillians by jihad or by joy stick powered drones is all the same!...
like it or not we have had hand in all wars...with intent / passively.
so stop trolling and do something positive in the community and make some changes.....maybe you white / asian neighbours will appreciate you.
A worthy experiment would be to chuck you all in a room and see what happens?
live and let live! and dont hate. peace
Remove religion from the picture and you would have more chance of world peace and harmony.
I do agree with much of your post though. Culpability and one eyed blindness abounds on both/every side of the arguments.
Apollo
says...
1:11pm Mon 22 Oct 12
The Hoffster
says...
1:22pm Mon 22 Oct 12
thelastmanstanding wrote:Yes; religion practiced in 3rd world countries is very much different to it being practiced in developed countries (like the US, UK, and Europe).
The Hoffster wrote:There are British-born Muslims in the Taliban, usually practicing Muslims from places like Bradford.
Colin Allcars wrote:I'm referring to the (practicing) Muslims of Bradford, not Afghanistan. Please try to digest that. Thanks.The Hoffster wrote:does that include the ones that practice in the Pakistani taliban who got the go ahead from 'learned scholars' to shoot a schoolgirl in the head?Apollo wrote: I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it. Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about. You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
Another thing, is the religion that Muslim's in Bradford follow any different to the religion that Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan follow?
As an example, take Christianity in Africa and then compare it to Britain.
A massive difference.
Albion.
says...
1:25pm Mon 22 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:The biggest one being that hardly anyone is gullible enough to follow it here any more.
thelastmanstanding wrote:Yes; religion practiced in 3rd world countries is very much different to it being practiced in developed countries (like the US, UK, and Europe).
The Hoffster wrote:There are British-born Muslims in the Taliban, usually practicing Muslims from places like Bradford.
Colin Allcars wrote:I'm referring to the (practicing) Muslims of Bradford, not Afghanistan. Please try to digest that. Thanks.The Hoffster wrote:does that include the ones that practice in the Pakistani taliban who got the go ahead from 'learned scholars' to shoot a schoolgirl in the head?Apollo wrote: I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it. Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about. You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
Another thing, is the religion that Muslim's in Bradford follow any different to the religion that Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan follow?
As an example, take Christianity in Africa and then compare it to Britain.
A massive difference.
ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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3:30pm Mon 22 Oct 12
StickyIKY wrote:I grew up in a Asian area, where if you got beat up the police asked what you did to provoke them. Very annoying when the only difference we had was our skin colou'r, it was a racist attack.
ok there seems to be a bit of a mix on this msg board, so lets get this clear.
the scumbags who spat on the girl and the poppy need to be punished.
but why wasnt this revealed last year?... why reveal it now?
the taliban who shot the girl are obviously oppressors of women, and have been for centuries so nothing new there. (and women in uk were only allowed to vote not too long ago)... so let them catch up.
in bfd its not only asians who sell drugs its the whites also...holmewood estate, canterbury estate..etc etc
killing of civillians by jihad or by joy stick powered drones is all the same!...
like it or not we have had hand in all wars...with intent / passively.
so stop trolling and do something positive in the community and make some changes.....maybe you white / asian neighbours will appreciate you.
A worthy experiment would be to chuck you all in a room and see what happens?
live and let live! and dont hate. peace
Wouldn't people have a greater respect for Asians if they preached peace and equality to places like Pakistan and the muslim world instead of the usual i'm a victim tosh.
It's people like you who deny there's a problem, when you know absolutey nothing. When people aren't believed the anger only grows.
truthhurt
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3:38pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Albion. wrote:Any one who can abuse a person, should be dealt in a manner that they cannot commit the abuse again,
Andy2010 wrote:We aren't fighting in Iraq.
Well said Yorkshire Lass
Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason
Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbags
But when the ~~~~~ go to iraq, they are killers, not hero, but we dont hear any one making an issue
Buying poppys are infact funding terrorist activities such as as our goverment,
We Must stop this
BD16
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3:39pm Mon 22 Oct 12
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Did you actually read the post before you commented on it? The whole jist of it was that idiots abound in both the white and asian community but we should try to ghet along despite them, that's how I read it anyway. I don't think there was any denial that problems exist at all.
StickyIKY wrote: ok there seems to be a bit of a mix on this msg board, so lets get this clear. the scumbags who spat on the girl and the poppy need to be punished. but why wasnt this revealed last year?... why reveal it now? the taliban who shot the girl are obviously oppressors of women, and have been for centuries so nothing new there. (and women in uk were only allowed to vote not too long ago)... so let them catch up. in bfd its not only asians who sell drugs its the whites also...holmewood estate, canterbury estate..etc etc killing of civillians by jihad or by joy stick powered drones is all the same!... like it or not we have had hand in all wars...with intent / passively. so stop trolling and do something positive in the community and make some changes.....maybe you white / asian neighbours will appreciate you. A worthy experiment would be to chuck you all in a room and see what happens? live and let live! and dont hate. peaceI grew up in a Asian area, where if you got beat up the police asked what you did to provoke them. Very annoying when the only difference we had was our skin colou'r, it was a racist attack. Wouldn't people have a greater respect for Asians if they preached peace and equality to places like Pakistan and the muslim world instead of the usual i'm a victim tosh. It's people like you who deny there's a problem, when you know absolutey nothing. When people aren't believed the anger only grows.
Marty12
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3:50pm Mon 22 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:This is a great post; all by itself it illustrates the split society that is now clearly badly failing. Enemies used to live in different countries and fight with tanks and bombs. Now the multi-culturally blinkered government says we have to live next to each other and so the fight is nastier because it's those who should be our neighbours who are the enemy (and while there are no tanks, there are plenty of bombs!). Balkans all over again. Solution? If you're one that thinks British military are the enemy, then leave the UK now. Those of us who are left will get along just fine.
Albion. wrote:Any one who can abuse a person, should be dealt in a manner that they cannot commit the abuse again, But when the ~~~~~ go to iraq, they are killers, not hero, but we dont hear any one making an issue Buying poppys are infact funding terrorist activities such as as our goverment, We Must stop thisAndy2010 wrote: Well said Yorkshire Lass Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbagsWe aren't fighting in Iraq.
Trutherl
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4:21pm Mon 22 Oct 12
It's 2012, let's not get back to 1972 please......this is getting old now.....
Oh and leave the country if you don't agree - haha excellent double standard there - hey, you could move too ;)
Marty12
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4:26pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Trutherl wrote:Sadly, we all are doing. You'll be left with your very own Islamabad to have fun with.
Er....did some of you actually read this article? Why the assumption it was asians? The only time asians were mentioned were as victims! Nice assumptions people - and you're surprised people shout racist at you with jumping to conclusions like that? What idiots!! And if they were asians, so what? You think white people have a monopoly on chavvy behaviour? At least they have an excuse - they get treated like crap and probably have done all their lives and their parents lives. I'm not blind or deaf, we've all heard the language used in pubs and bars most evenings ;) It's 2012, let's not get back to 1972 please......this is getting old now..... Oh and leave the country if you don't agree - haha excellent double standard there - hey, you could move too ;)
Enjoy.
truthhurt
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4:28pm Mon 22 Oct 12
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
Albion.
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4:31pm Mon 22 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:Buying Poppies supports people who were injured while doing their duty, irrespective of whether you approve of the actions of those who ordered them to carry out said duties.
Albion. wrote:Any one who can abuse a person, should be dealt in a manner that they cannot commit the abuse again,
Andy2010 wrote:We aren't fighting in Iraq.
Well said Yorkshire Lass
Anyone abusing these sellers should be sent to Iraq to fight. They would soon change their tune and if not shoudl be treated as treason
Anyone abusing these people are plain and simple scumbags
But when the ~~~~~ go to iraq, they are killers, not hero, but we dont hear any one making an issue
Buying poppys are infact funding terrorist activities such as as our goverment,
We Must stop this
People selling Poppies should be respected for helping others for no personal gain, they should never be subject to behaviour like that in this report, be they young girls, army veterans or whatever.
Marty12
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4:37pm Mon 22 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:Safer than speaking the truth in a Muslim country, where you'd end up with your head hacked off!!
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life, Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
loftyme
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4:40pm Mon 22 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:you are lucky I dont know who you are you Moth345 F3453489ker.
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life, Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
Apollo
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7:25pm Mon 22 Oct 12
The Hoffster wrote:Like the 3 enemy within currently in Court planning another bomb attack on citizens of this country?
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
I would be surprised but not pleasantly so.
We fell for the 'no homegrown' terrorists once but never again.
SinnerSaint
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9:08pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Apollo wrote:I thought I'd take his advice. So I booked an appointment with that nice Bradford Councillor, Mr Abid Hussain.
The Hoffster wrote:Like the 3 enemy within currently in Court planning another bomb attack on citizens of this country?
Apollo wrote:Well, if you get the 'facts' on said Faith from the likes of the BNP/EDL, it's no wonder you're cacking it.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
Get out, meet some Muslims (the ones that practice, not the one's that don't); talk to them see what they're really about.
You'll be pleasantly surprised :)
I would be surprised but not pleasantly so.
We fell for the 'no homegrown' terrorists once but never again.
Unfortunately, he was otherwise engaged having been arrested along with other members of his family.. something to do with vehicle arson, street violence, array and imitation firearms....
What was it the Hoffster was saying about these people being Asian but not Muslims? He's the vice chairman of Keighley Muslim Society for Pete's sake.
How very amusing.
SinnerSaint
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9:38pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:Channel4 documentary was interesting. Mohammed was quite happy when the old lady was doing what he wanted and following his customs. When he had to live under her rules and customs, he wasn't very happy.
StickyIKY wrote:Channel4 did this earlier this year, varying results but basically people in isolation usually engage and tolerate/get on with each other than groups of opposing factions.
ok there seems to be a bit of a mix on this msg board, so lets get this clear.
the scumbags who spat on the girl and the poppy need to be punished.
but why wasnt this revealed last year?... why reveal it now?
the taliban who shot the girl are obviously oppressors of women, and have been for centuries so nothing new there. (and women in uk were only allowed to vote not too long ago)... so let them catch up.
in bfd its not only asians who sell drugs its the whites also...holmewood estate, canterbury estate..etc etc
killing of civillians by jihad or by joy stick powered drones is all the same!...
like it or not we have had hand in all wars...with intent / passively.
so stop trolling and do something positive in the community and make some changes.....maybe you white / asian neighbours will appreciate you.
A worthy experiment would be to chuck you all in a room and see what happens?
live and let live! and dont hate. peace
Remove religion from the picture and you would have more chance of world peace and harmony.
I do agree with much of your post though. Culpability and one eyed blindness abounds on both/every side of the arguments.
Hmmm, where have we seen that before??
Wanna Have
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10:17pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Apollo wrote:Gotta say, I'm not the slightest bit worried about Islam.
I'm an Islamaphobe - Islam scares the sh1t out of me.
They have the most stupid wanna be terrorists acting on their behalf, I have just seen another 3 wannabe's on the news.I'll worry more about losing my job or being knocked down crossing the road than a few beardo wierdo anoraks who if they put as much effort in doing as talking might get past there front door of their grubby squat before it is kicked in by the security services.
Salty Bantam
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12:04am Tue 23 Oct 12
Joedavid wrote:LOL, I very much doubt it !
That was horrible what happened last year, where these guys ever brought to court?
The Police are useless.
ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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12:36pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Here in Bradford we have everybody else and then the community.
Who ever thought it right that we all shouldn't be govened the same ie Bradford council, police then there was always going to be trouble ahead.
Where is the community when it comes to policing there own,
Bradford has been run by cowards for so long, that were now starting to see the problems the council have caused.
Albion.
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12:56pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Sorry, but I don't understand what exactly you are trying to say.
They were asian's who spat at the girl in the picture i know her dad. (FACT)
Here in Bradford we have everybody else and then the community.
Who ever thought it right that we all shouldn't be govened the same ie Bradford council, police then there was always going to be trouble ahead.
Where is the community when it comes to policing there own,
Bradford has been run by cowards for so long, that were now starting to see the problems the council have caused.
ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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1:59pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Asian youths assault young girl simply because she supports our soldiers.
We need to stop pretending that these are yobs, They are doing this because of our foreign policy.
Once its made clear what is happening then we can address it.
Bradford council the police have had there head in the sand for far too long, our way of life, traditions are all but gone.
Albion.
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2:20pm Tue 23 Oct 12
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:She is actually supporting a charity for people who are mostly disabled.
We need the press to start saying how it is.
Asian youths assault young girl simply because she supports our soldiers.
We need to stop pretending that these are yobs, They are doing this because of our foreign policy.
Once its made clear what is happening then we can address it.
Bradford council the police have had there head in the sand for far too long, our way of life, traditions are all but gone.
Why should it be acceptable for anyone to assault anyone?
The chip on their shoulder won't be removed by a change in foreign policy, having said that, I would support a change in foreign policy but not to appease those who assault poppy sellers.
Gabbysgran
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3:01pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Gabbysgran
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3:14pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Victor Clayton
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5:17pm Tue 23 Oct 12
pweibj67 wrote:I was coming out of Valley parade early the other week. when approching a gang of young lads they turned toward me. I thought "here we go". but they asked me how what the score was and how the match was going (if JH had finally scored - joke). they then wished me a "nice weekend" and i was on my way. they were a great bunch of lads. the only shame was they don't go to the City themselves.
after being attacked in the centre of bradford on a thursday afternoon in BROAD daylight ... i am never going to defend this city! ok perhaps its a minority .. but this minority is NOT one or two bad eggs!! we are talking the vast majority of man under 23 ish!! As the POLICEMAN!!!!!! said to me .. white man in ivygate .. don't do it!!! however i was out of the ordinary being a 6ft well built man!! ... they normaly target young girls or older people as they offer least resistance!!! PS I was accused of being a racist .. as i refused to hand over my mobile phone when ask .. !!! I was accused again of being a racist as i called the police ... allegedly i wouldn't have called the police if these youths had been english and would have just handed over my phone! pps .. however i was assisted by a nice Asian couple who was totally ashamed of their fellow muslim actions .. so yes its not EVERY muslim
Victor Clayton
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5:27pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Victor Clayton wrote:I should probably have said that they were asian!
pweibj67 wrote: after being attacked in the centre of bradford on a thursday afternoon in BROAD daylight ... i am never going to defend this city! ok perhaps its a minority .. but this minority is NOT one or two bad eggs!! we are talking the vast majority of man under 23 ish!! As the POLICEMAN!!!!!! said to me .. white man in ivygate .. don't do it!!! however i was out of the ordinary being a 6ft well built man!! ... they normaly target young girls or older people as they offer least resistance!!! PS I was accused of being a racist .. as i refused to hand over my mobile phone when ask .. !!! I was accused again of being a racist as i called the police ... allegedly i wouldn't have called the police if these youths had been english and would have just handed over my phone! pps .. however i was assisted by a nice Asian couple who was totally ashamed of their fellow muslim actions .. so yes its not EVERY muslimI was coming out of Valley parade early the other week. when approching a gang of young lads they turned toward me. I thought "here we go". but they asked me how what the score was and how the match was going (if JH had finally scored - joke). they then wished me a "nice weekend" and i was on my way. they were a great bunch of lads. the only shame was they don't go to the City themselves.
SinnerSaint
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6:47pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Obviously Muslims wouldn't behave like that, would they?
*rolls eyes*
Futura89
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7:24pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Salty Bantam
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7:28pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Get your facts straight T&A !!!!!!!
http://www.thetelegr
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Salty Bantam
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7:29pm Tue 23 Oct 12
SinnerSaint wrote:Girlington.
Hey Hoffster , looks like all those pesky white folk have been at it again - mass street fight in Manningham. A "neighbourhood dispute" apparently.
Obviously Muslims wouldn't behave like that, would they?
*rolls eyes*
craftykhan
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11:31pm Tue 23 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:T&A doesn't give two hoots about accurate reporting and bad news sells papers....!
Durham Road is in Girlington NOT Manningham!
Get your facts straight T&A !!!!!!!
http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
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truthhurt
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7:50am Wed 24 Oct 12
You people Fxxxing get your facts right before you mention religion
T and A obious you want to cause conflict by keeping these idiotic comments, i suggest you take them off
SinnerSaint
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8:13am Wed 24 Oct 12
You're already getting them wrong by calling him "Hilter" and saying he's seen as a great man.
"So called Jews"?? What on earth does that mean?!
Salty Bantam
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12:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:Hitler wasn't a "great man" you blithering idiot!
so, when Hilter killed the so called jews, we dont mention his religion at all, just that he was a great man, but when asians are concerned, they always mention muslims
You people Fxxxing get your facts right before you mention religion
T and A obious you want to cause conflict by keeping these idiotic comments, i suggest you take them off
And what do you mean by "so-called Jews" ?
The millions of people that Hitler had murdered WERE Jews, plus others too.
I can only assume you must be either mentally ill or extremely under-educated.
Salty Bantam
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12:16pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam
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12:19pm Wed 24 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
TheLionsof1967
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1:59pm Wed 24 Oct 12
TheLionsof1967
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2:13pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam
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2:15pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:Ah, my mistake, that comment was on the fire crew being attacked story!
Some comments seem to have gone missing, unless I'm overlooking them? I seem to recall someone asking which other members of society would soon need minders, and I replied that it would probably be the Jobcentre staff and the Work Coaches.....
SinnerSaint
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2:31pm Wed 24 Oct 12
TheLionsof1967 wrote:On one of the Asian radio stations, the Indians were complaining about exactly that during a phone in regarding the sexual grooming etc which appears to be a problem endemic within the Pakistani community. (Although of course they deny it in the same way they deny that there are gang violence, drug and gun problems within the young Pakistani community in Bradford).
I wish the Telegraph and Argus would stop calling Pakistanis "Asians" Call Pakistanis as they are - Pakistanis. I would be insulted if I were Chinese and to then be called Asian and associated with Pakistanis. Who would want to be associated with a rogue, terror state. Pakistan, the country that can not even play cricket without corruption! The country that did not know where Osama Boma Laden was hiding! Who would want to be called Asian? call Pakistanis as they are. Pakistanis. oh, and check your friends and neighbours have insured their cars for the good of the community. good boys those Pakistanis, I mean Asians.
It's not Hindus or Sikhs, it's Muslims who are predominately Pakistani.
Hindus and Sikhs respect our way of life and integrate, they don't despise and divide.
Salty Bantam
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2:50pm Wed 24 Oct 12
OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK??????????
IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-politics-20
044862
Colin Allcars
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2:59pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Hopefully none are bogus like the one the astoundingly ugly Birmingham traitors now on trial were collecting for.
Andy2010
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3:35pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:Yeah good luck with that
JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862
Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance?
You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement.
If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
Salty Bantam
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3:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.
Salty Bantam wrote:Yeah good luck with that
JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862
Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance?
You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement.
If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
Andy2010
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4:12pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Albion.
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4:22pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Andy2010 wrote:jobSEARCH! That'll be the day, job shirk more like.
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Salty Bantam
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4:29pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Andy2010 wrote:LOL no, no one's forcing me into anything!
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Talking of work, isn't it time you got on with some?
Salty Bantam
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4:30pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Albion. wrote:Preparing to do your mandatory OAP volunteering Albion? Don't want to get your pension cut do you?
Andy2010 wrote:jobSEARCH! That'll be the day, job shirk more like.
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
RollandSmoke
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5:12pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
Albion.
says...
5:19pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:It wouldn't be the end of the world, I have a private pension as well, and some savings and investments. I would certainly do my bit if called though.
Albion. wrote:Preparing to do your mandatory OAP volunteering Albion? Don't want to get your pension cut do you?
Andy2010 wrote:jobSEARCH! That'll be the day, job shirk more like.
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Salty Bantam
says...
6:38pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Albion. wrote:You don't get out of it that easily. Private pensions will be confiscated at a rate of £50 per week payable to an Islamic charity, if you don't do 35 hours per week sweeping leaves.
Salty Bantam wrote:It wouldn't be the end of the world, I have a private pension as well, and some savings and investments. I would certainly do my bit if called though.
Albion. wrote:Preparing to do your mandatory OAP volunteering Albion? Don't want to get your pension cut do you?
Andy2010 wrote:jobSEARCH! That'll be the day, job shirk more like.
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Albion.
says...
7:09pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:I probably will be sweeping the leaves, they are falling like a snowstorm now.
Albion. wrote:You don't get out of it that easily. Private pensions will be confiscated at a rate of £50 per week payable to an Islamic charity, if you don't do 35 hours per week sweeping leaves.
Salty Bantam wrote:It wouldn't be the end of the world, I have a private pension as well, and some savings and investments. I would certainly do my bit if called though.
Albion. wrote:Preparing to do your mandatory OAP volunteering Albion? Don't want to get your pension cut do you?
Andy2010 wrote:jobSEARCH! That'll be the day, job shirk more like.
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Would that be one of those Islamic charities where the administrators drive about in 7series BMWs and 0.5% of contributions actually reach the intended target?
If Sticky Fingers Brown had got his way, all private pensions would have been confiscated for drain fodder!
Salty Bantam
says...
7:34pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Albion. wrote:I would have them confiscated too, and shared out among the poor.
Salty Bantam wrote:I probably will be sweeping the leaves, they are falling like a snowstorm now.
Albion. wrote:You don't get out of it that easily. Private pensions will be confiscated at a rate of £50 per week payable to an Islamic charity, if you don't do 35 hours per week sweeping leaves.
Salty Bantam wrote:It wouldn't be the end of the world, I have a private pension as well, and some savings and investments. I would certainly do my bit if called though.
Albion. wrote:Preparing to do your mandatory OAP volunteering Albion? Don't want to get your pension cut do you?
Andy2010 wrote:jobSEARCH! That'll be the day, job shirk more like.
Salty Bantam wrote:ah so you are the same person then
Andy2010 wrote:What kind of an aresshole are you? This bloody Lord whatever-his-name-is should be strung up for even suggesting such an OUTRAGEOUS thing !!!! It's beyond the pale, it really is.Salty Bantam wrote: JESUS H CHRIST, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ, GOD HELP US !!!!! OAPs TO BE FORCED TO DO VOLUNTARY WORK OR HAVE PENSIONS CUT. WHAT THE FLYING FOOK?????????? IT DEFINITELY IS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 044862Yeah good luck with that Are you A reasonable sort of chap or A Casual Observer by any chance? You seem to spout the same rubbish and enjoy posting links off subject all the time. You also never see a topic with all three of you in it and also seem to have to same hatred of working and the governement. If you arent the same person you should meet up with them...you lot would get on famously
thanks for confirming this
hows the jobsearch going? still "forcing" you into work are they.
The rascals
Would that be one of those Islamic charities where the administrators drive about in 7series BMWs and 0.5% of contributions actually reach the intended target?
If Sticky Fingers Brown had got his way, all private pensions would have been confiscated for drain fodder!
Salty Bantam
says...
7:40pm Wed 24 Oct 12
RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really.
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.
RollandSmoke
says...
8:05pm Wed 24 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:It's already happened, they have spent all summer celebrating the fact. Dissent has been all but crushed and the lone voices easily silenced, riddiculed or demonized in the press. The weapons have been stockpile in case things should get out of hand. The poor whilst united in their plight have been divided across many other lines. Zion, the new Jeruselum for the age of Aquarius has been installed in London. Now all that's left is for them to reduce the worlds population to the levels set out on the Georgia Guidestones and for the Anti Christ to reveal himself.
RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really.
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.
Any suspicions as to who that may be?
BD16
says...
8:59pm Wed 24 Oct 12
RollandSmoke wrote:Is this what heavy canabis use does to the human brain?
Salty Bantam wrote:It's already happened, they have spent all summer celebrating the fact. Dissent has been all but crushed and the lone voices easily silenced, riddiculed or demonized in the press. The weapons have been stockpile in case things should get out of hand. The poor whilst united in their plight have been divided across many other lines. Zion, the new Jeruselum for the age of Aquarius has been installed in London. Now all that's left is for them to reduce the worlds population to the levels set out on the Georgia Guidestones and for the Anti Christ to reveal himself.
RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really.
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.
Any suspicions as to who that may be?
Salty Bantam
says...
10:47pm Wed 24 Oct 12
RollandSmoke wrote:George Galloway?
Salty Bantam wrote:It's already happened, they have spent all summer celebrating the fact. Dissent has been all but crushed and the lone voices easily silenced, riddiculed or demonized in the press. The weapons have been stockpile in case things should get out of hand. The poor whilst united in their plight have been divided across many other lines. Zion, the new Jeruselum for the age of Aquarius has been installed in London. Now all that's left is for them to reduce the worlds population to the levels set out on the Georgia Guidestones and for the Anti Christ to reveal himself.
RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really.
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.
Any suspicions as to who that may be?
Salty Bantam
says...
10:48pm Wed 24 Oct 12
BD16 wrote:Go back to sleep, it was all a dream...
RollandSmoke wrote:Is this what heavy canabis use does to the human brain?
Salty Bantam wrote:It's already happened, they have spent all summer celebrating the fact. Dissent has been all but crushed and the lone voices easily silenced, riddiculed or demonized in the press. The weapons have been stockpile in case things should get out of hand. The poor whilst united in their plight have been divided across many other lines. Zion, the new Jeruselum for the age of Aquarius has been installed in London. Now all that's left is for them to reduce the worlds population to the levels set out on the Georgia Guidestones and for the Anti Christ to reveal himself.
RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really.
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.
Any suspicions as to who that may be?
RollandSmoke
says...
11:30pm Wed 24 Oct 12
http://youtu.be/gteH
Uvz1_x8
BD16
says...
6:34am Thu 25 Oct 12
Salty Bantam wrote:Yes, and then you woke up in a Manningham bedsit.
BD16 wrote:Go back to sleep, it was all a dream...
RollandSmoke wrote:Is this what heavy canabis use does to the human brain?
Salty Bantam wrote:It's already happened, they have spent all summer celebrating the fact. Dissent has been all but crushed and the lone voices easily silenced, riddiculed or demonized in the press. The weapons have been stockpile in case things should get out of hand. The poor whilst united in their plight have been divided across many other lines. Zion, the new Jeruselum for the age of Aquarius has been installed in London. Now all that's left is for them to reduce the worlds population to the levels set out on the Georgia Guidestones and for the Anti Christ to reveal himself.
RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really.
Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.
truthhurt wrote:Stop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists:
its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country
It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life,
Stop buying poppys and get a reality check
http://www.yorkshire
post.co.uk/news/at-a
-glance/main-section
/charity-collectors-
duped-public-to-pay-
for-terror-plot-cour
t-told-1-5055591
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_cha
rities_accused_of_ti
es_to_terrorism
T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.
Any suspicions as to who that may be?
Andy2010
says...
9:45am Thu 25 Oct 12
RollandSmoke wrote:Just LOL
Salty Bantam wrote:It's already happened, they have spent all summer celebrating the fact. Dissent has been all but crushed and the lone voices easily silenced, riddiculed or demonized in the press. The weapons have been stockpile in case things should get out of hand. The poor whilst united in their plight have been divided across many other lines. Zion, the new Jeruselum for the age of Aquarius has been installed in London. Now all that's left is for them to reduce the worlds population to the levels set out on the Georgia Guidestones and for the Anti Christ to reveal himself. Any suspicions as to who that may be?RollandSmoke wrote:You're right, they're all a bunch of gangsters really. T.P.T.B. are tightening their grip and plugging every gap, pretty soon their evil plan will be complete and the NWO fully implemented, which means a life of slavery for everyone. You can see it happening right now with the Welfare Reform, attacking the sick/disabled, the poor, the unemployed, and now the OAPs. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Their aim is to crush every last bit of free will in mankind, they call it the "universal reformation of the whole wide world", and it is the real reason behind the P.W.E.Salty Bantam wrote:As the UN has designated the Free Syrian Army an Al Qaeda affiliate and William Haugue has handed them £5 million in taxpayers money I'd say stop paying your taxes, you may be supporting terrorists.truthhurt wrote: its not supprising here, that when you speak the truth, your told to get out of the country It looks obvious that the people can not tolerate what goes against their way of life, Stop buying poppys and get a reality checkStop donating to spurious Islamic charities, you may be supporting terrorists: http://www.yorkshire post.co.uk/news/at-a -glance/main-section /charity-collectors- duped-public-to-pay- for-terror-plot-cour t-told-1-5055591 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_cha rities_accused_of_ti es_to_terrorism
sexypete
says...
11:36am Thu 25 Oct 12
truthhurt
says...
1:28pm Thu 25 Oct 12
sexypete wrote:Lets get something right here, The troop have gone to occupie land that the British and America goverment have It seems that most of you guy are un educated and just relie on the media thats one sided
I'm not surprised at all by the behaviour of some of these people. But my god say anything about them and you’re a racist. Get something straight people, we all know it goes on so do something about it. Report it to the police, don’t be frightened, it’s about time people opened there eyes to what is openly going on in this country, if they don't like our armed forces or what we fight for then go back to your country and do something about it instead of sponging of this country with one hand and slapping us with the other one. And don’t bother with "this is our country" bull, if this "is" your country then stop been racists to the white people and support us. No you won’t though will you. Open your eyes everyone. Hopefully one day things will change for the better. This is England if you are English then say something, do something don’t carry on taking it from racist Asians. Put them in a crate and send them to Christmas Island or somewhere similar. No doubt I will be branded a racist for sticking up for my own country, they wouldn’t dare say offensive things in front of me. And yes I know they wouldn’t. They’re all Cowards on their own.
Those that occupie land must be at all cost be D~~~~~., same as someone that can break in to your home. Why sould we live in fear.
In regards to priest that abuse kids, am sure their religion is christianity, but no one comments on that
Jimmy saval, first an amazing person, but now .
Lets charge him, wake him up from RIP
Albion.
says...
4:16pm Thu 25 Oct 12
truthhurt wrote:The irony of you accusing someone else of being uneducated!
sexypete wrote:Lets get something right here, The troop have gone to occupie land that the British and America goverment have It seems that most of you guy are un educated and just relie on the media thats one sided
I'm not surprised at all by the behaviour of some of these people. But my god say anything about them and you’re a racist. Get something straight people, we all know it goes on so do something about it. Report it to the police, don’t be frightened, it’s about time people opened there eyes to what is openly going on in this country, if they don't like our armed forces or what we fight for then go back to your country and do something about it instead of sponging of this country with one hand and slapping us with the other one. And don’t bother with "this is our country" bull, if this "is" your country then stop been racists to the white people and support us. No you won’t though will you. Open your eyes everyone. Hopefully one day things will change for the better. This is England if you are English then say something, do something don’t carry on taking it from racist Asians. Put them in a crate and send them to Christmas Island or somewhere similar. No doubt I will be branded a racist for sticking up for my own country, they wouldn’t dare say offensive things in front of me. And yes I know they wouldn’t. They’re all Cowards on their own.
Those that occupie land must be at all cost be D~~~~~., same as someone that can break in to your home. Why sould we live in fear.
In regards to priest that abuse kids, am sure their religion is christianity, but no one comments on that
Jimmy saval, first an amazing person, but now .
Lets charge him, wake him up from RIP
sexypete
says...
4:21pm Thu 25 Oct 12
Commonsensefirst
says...
11:24pm Thu 25 Oct 12
Futura89
says...
8:52am Sun 28 Oct 12
amber111 wrote:Don't use Islam as an excuse for your ignorance for other cultures , is this more about racism ?
Who wants to live side by side with Islam - I can assure you not me...that's why I left Bradford...I could see it coming.
SinnerSaint
says...
11:25am Sun 28 Oct 12
When the news is full of stories of suicide bombings, terror attacks, planned attrocities, murder, violence, rioting and war in "Muslim Lands" I think people have a right to dispute that Islam is a "religion of peace" without being called racist.
That's not forgetting the amount of recent shootings and violence within the Bradford Muslim community...
Joedavid says...
8:21am Sat 20 Oct 12