‘Horrendous’ plight of £4m funding gap (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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‘Horrendous’ plight of £4m funding gap
9:00am Saturday 23rd June 2012 in Bradford
By Jo Winrow, City Hall Reporter
Senior Bradford councillors yesterday discussed the implications of Government plans to reduce support for Council Tax benefit as part of reforms which will see local authorities taking on responsibility for the benefit.
Under the new arrangements the Government will provide the Council with ten per cent less – which equates to around £4 million – although pensioners will be protected, leaving the real level of cuts on an individual expected to be around 15 per cent.
The Council then has to decide whether to find the extra cash from its finances to plug the funding gap, pass the reduction on to those receiving the benefit in full, or to phase in any reductions over a number of years.
At yesterday’s Bradford Council executive meeting, members indicated they would look to pass on the cuts to those benefit recipients of working-age, but that they also wanted to look at options as to whether other vulnerable groups could be protected.
The moves will now go out to consultation with other precepting organisations and a draft scheme will be reported back to the executive.
Given that the new system of support will begin from April 2013, the item has been banned from any call-in to allow the consultation to take place in time.
Councillor David Green, leader of the Council, said: “This has been perhaps the hardest decision facing me since I became leader. It’s horrendous and the implications of any decision we make on this are going to affect thousands of people in the district.”
“It’s hypocritical of the Government to decide to make a cut in Council Tax benefit and then pass it on to local authorities to introduce it.”
An estimated 33,000 households in the district may be affected by the changes.
Comments(43)
bradfordian
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11:01am Sat 23 Jun 12
bradfordian
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11:01am Sat 23 Jun 12
bradfordian
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11:01am Sat 23 Jun 12
bradfordian
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11:02am Sat 23 Jun 12
Get back to work
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11:41am Sat 23 Jun 12
justjustice
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1:02pm Sat 23 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:Well "Get back to work", are you able to offer all those who are unemployed a job?!
At last common sense .... got to love the tories. Making it hard for the bone idle lazy to stay at home since May 2010.....
If not then I suggest you stfu and consider yourself lucky to have a job during this double recession.
Yes there are some who do not want a job and will live off benefits, but it doesnt mean all people who are jobseekers are.
Get back to work
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2:03pm Sat 23 Jun 12
allinittogether
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7:12pm Sat 23 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:So how are you going to determine which particular job seeker is worthy of support and which is "bone idle lazy"?
I never said all jobseekers , if you take the time to read it again i was qouting about the "bone idle lazy" .. i have no qualms whatsoever about people who have lost their jobs and are experiencing difficult times recieving any benefits whatsoever untill they gain employment. But the bone idle lazy g**s who sit at home thinking the world owes them a living need to learn that benefits are just that, a benefit, And not a god **** given right.. why should the workers always be the ones that are penalised and have to pay ? we wouldnt be in this mess of a double recession if benefits actually only went to them that need them...
Or is this rant basically aimed at one specific poster on these boards who really knows how to push your buttons? :-)
But no we don't have to love the tories. Their corrupt supporters in the financial world caused this crisis and the rest of us pay for it.
Get back to work
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9:45pm Sat 23 Jun 12
allinittogether wrote:Haha , he doesn`t know how how to push my buttons , not yet anyway .. Plans are already in place with the work programme to find who is actively seeking work from those that aren`t and those who have genuine barriers that need breaking down before they are job ready. with these findings its easy to distinguish who is genuine and who as i put it are "bone idle lazy".. through this and sharing information with councils it will become apparent who deserves financial assistance ( council tax benefit ) and who doesnt. Everyones quick to blame the rich and succesful for the state of the country , but dont forget its the same rich and succesful people that are the ones employing the working class.
Get back to work wrote:So how are you going to determine which particular job seeker is worthy of support and which is "bone idle lazy"?
I never said all jobseekers , if you take the time to read it again i was qouting about the "bone idle lazy" .. i have no qualms whatsoever about people who have lost their jobs and are experiencing difficult times recieving any benefits whatsoever untill they gain employment. But the bone idle lazy g**s who sit at home thinking the world owes them a living need to learn that benefits are just that, a benefit, And not a god **** given right.. why should the workers always be the ones that are penalised and have to pay ? we wouldnt be in this mess of a double recession if benefits actually only went to them that need them...
Or is this rant basically aimed at one specific poster on these boards who really knows how to push your buttons? :-)
But no we don't have to love the tories. Their corrupt supporters in the financial world caused this crisis and the rest of us pay for it.
Relish
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8:55am Sun 24 Jun 12
birday
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9:23am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work
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10:31am Sun 24 Jun 12
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
a reasonable sort of chap
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10:49am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:What's hard about staying at home? None of this makes any difference, apart from the fact that you will enjoy fewer services. Typical short-sighted Tory ****.
At last common sense .... got to love the tories. Making it hard for the bone idle lazy to stay at home since May 2010.....
a reasonable sort of chap
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10:50am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:No, you are wrong, there are no jobs, there is no industry, and the State owes us all a living, and don't you ever forget it.
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
Get back to work
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10:52am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Theres nothing hard about staying at home , my point is its going to get harder.. And the likes of you will suffer . Happy days ;)
Get back to work wrote:What's hard about staying at home? None of this makes any difference, apart from the fact that you will enjoy fewer services. Typical short-sighted Tory ****.
At last common sense .... got to love the tories. Making it hard for the bone idle lazy to stay at home since May 2010.....
Stig25
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10:53am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap
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10:58am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:LOL the so-called 'Work Programme' is a joke! I've been on it for almost a year now and so far nothing as happened. I meet my work coach for about 15 mins. once per fortnight, and that's it!
allinittogether wrote:Haha , he doesn`t know how how to push my buttons , not yet anyway .. Plans are already in place with the work programme to find who is actively seeking work from those that aren`t and those who have genuine barriers that need breaking down before they are job ready. with these findings its easy to distinguish who is genuine and who as i put it are "bone idle lazy".. through this and sharing information with councils it will become apparent who deserves financial assistance ( council tax benefit ) and who doesnt. Everyones quick to blame the rich and succesful for the state of the country , but dont forget its the same rich and succesful people that are the ones employing the working class.
Get back to work wrote:So how are you going to determine which particular job seeker is worthy of support and which is "bone idle lazy"?
I never said all jobseekers , if you take the time to read it again i was qouting about the "bone idle lazy" .. i have no qualms whatsoever about people who have lost their jobs and are experiencing difficult times recieving any benefits whatsoever untill they gain employment. But the bone idle lazy g**s who sit at home thinking the world owes them a living need to learn that benefits are just that, a benefit, And not a god **** given right.. why should the workers always be the ones that are penalised and have to pay ? we wouldnt be in this mess of a double recession if benefits actually only went to them that need them...
Or is this rant basically aimed at one specific poster on these boards who really knows how to push your buttons? :-)
But no we don't have to love the tories. Their corrupt supporters in the financial world caused this crisis and the rest of us pay for it.
Also, don't forget that the Social Market Foundation, a leading cross-party think tank consulted in the drafting of the scheme, concluded that the programme's targets are unworkable and that the providers will be made bankrupt within two years, so see you down the Jobcentre soon knob-head.
Government’s Work Programme at risk of collapse, say experts:
http://liberalconspi
racy.org/2011/08/22/
governments-work-pro
gramme-at-risk-of-co
llapse-say-experts/
http://www.smf.co.uk
/media/news/nao-work
-programme-report-so
cial-market-foundati
on-statement/
The govt’s work programmes are pure exploitation: here’s the evidence:
http://liberalconspi
racy.org/2012/06/14/
the-govts-work-progr
ammes-are-pure-explo
itation-heres-the-ev
idence/
Get back to work
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10:59am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:You owe your self a living .. you and your family / fore fathers have been notorious scroungers for years, bringing down this once decent city. and now its payback time. You seem to always harp back to when we had an industry .. I VERY MUCH DOUBT that you would have worked in any mill 14hrs a day for a few pounds shilling and pence.. you wont work now for a few hundred quid a week. so move on get with the 21st century
Get back to work wrote:No, you are wrong, there are no jobs, there is no industry, and the State owes us all a living, and don't you ever forget it.
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
Stig25
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10:59am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:00am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:Suffer? In what way? So far I haven't even noticed the recession. If you have nothing to begin with it makes no difference! And no one can take what you haven't got!
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Theres nothing hard about staying at home , my point is its going to get harder.. And the likes of you will suffer . Happy days ;)
Get back to work wrote:What's hard about staying at home? None of this makes any difference, apart from the fact that you will enjoy fewer services. Typical short-sighted Tory ****.
At last common sense .... got to love the tories. Making it hard for the bone idle lazy to stay at home since May 2010.....
:)
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:01am Sun 24 Jun 12
Stig25 wrote:probably best to ignore him, he's just a right-wing troll.
Perhaps Get back to work should give up his family's child benefit (or at least pay it back if the children are grown up) if he feels that strongly about benefits being paid to those who need it.
Get back to work
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11:03am Sun 24 Jun 12
Stig25 wrote:thats a good point except for i dont and have never recieved child benefit.
Perhaps Get back to work should give up his family's child benefit (or at least pay it back if the children are grown up) if he feels that strongly about benefits being paid to those who need it.
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:03am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:I used to work 12 hour shifts in a mill, actually. My Grandfather worked longer. How many hours did David Cameron and George Osborne used to work?
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:You owe your self a living .. you and your family / fore fathers have been notorious scroungers for years, bringing down this once decent city. and now its payback time. You seem to always harp back to when we had an industry .. I VERY MUCH DOUBT that you would have worked in any mill 14hrs a day for a few pounds shilling and pence.. you wont work now for a few hundred quid a week. so move on get with the 21st century
Get back to work wrote:No, you are wrong, there are no jobs, there is no industry, and the State owes us all a living, and don't you ever forget it.
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
keelhambar
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11:04am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:04am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:I didn't, for one minute, expect that you had actually had a shag at some point in your sad pathetic little life.
Stig25 wrote:thats a good point except for i dont and have never recieved child benefit.
Perhaps Get back to work should give up his family's child benefit (or at least pay it back if the children are grown up) if he feels that strongly about benefits being paid to those who need it.
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:05am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:I don't think twice about staying at home all day.
They are looking to protect those in a vulnerable capacity ( sick, elderly disabled ) what it will do is make those of working age and capable of working think twice about sitting at home idle all day, instead of those that do work funding their lazy lifestyle
Get back to work
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11:10am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Ask your mother ..... what a night that was .. was in your bed too , whilst you was on your 12 hour shift at the mill ;)
Get back to work wrote:I didn't, for one minute, expect that you had actually had a shag at some point in your sad pathetic little life.
Stig25 wrote:thats a good point except for i dont and have never recieved child benefit.
Perhaps Get back to work should give up his family's child benefit (or at least pay it back if the children are grown up) if he feels that strongly about benefits being paid to those who need it.
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:25am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:Typical Tory sleeze-ball, scum-bag. A leopard never changes its spots. How can the British public ever trust a Tory? Answer is, they can't !
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Ask your mother ..... what a night that was .. was in your bed too , whilst you was on your 12 hour shift at the mill ;)
Get back to work wrote:I didn't, for one minute, expect that you had actually had a shag at some point in your sad pathetic little life.
Stig25 wrote:thats a good point except for i dont and have never recieved child benefit.
Perhaps Get back to work should give up his family's child benefit (or at least pay it back if the children are grown up) if he feels that strongly about benefits being paid to those who need it.
Get back to work
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11:28am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Touched a nerve ? sometimes the working class like a bit of posh and vice versa..... and the poll results of May 2010 show that more people respect and trust the TORIES or else your lot who ruined the country would still be in power . END OFF
Get back to work wrote:Typical Tory sleeze-ball, scum-bag. A leopard never changes its spots. How can the British public ever trust a Tory? Answer is, they can't !
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Ask your mother ..... what a night that was .. was in your bed too , whilst you was on your 12 hour shift at the mill ;)
Get back to work wrote:I didn't, for one minute, expect that you had actually had a shag at some point in your sad pathetic little life.
Stig25 wrote:thats a good point except for i dont and have never recieved child benefit.
Perhaps Get back to work should give up his family's child benefit (or at least pay it back if the children are grown up) if he feels that strongly about benefits being paid to those who need it.
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:29am Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:Yes, it IS indeed "payback time". We the Working Class did our bit in the Industrial Revolution, and now it's over they owe us a living. You cannot avoid that truth no matter how much of a little Tory tantrum you throw. There is no industry, ther ar no jobs, and now thye owe us a living, no two ways about bit, completely unavoidable, and nothing else for it but stfu and pay our dole. The so-called 'Work Programme' is merely more smoke and mirrors, to fool the likes of you, will get NO ONE into permanent work! hahahaha
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:You owe your self a living .. you and your family / fore fathers have been notorious scroungers for years, bringing down this once decent city. and now its payback time. You seem to always harp back to when we had an industry .. I VERY MUCH DOUBT that you would have worked in any mill 14hrs a day for a few pounds shilling and pence.. you wont work now for a few hundred quid a week. so move on get with the 21st century
Get back to work wrote:No, you are wrong, there are no jobs, there is no industry, and the State owes us all a living, and don't you ever forget it.
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
a reasonable sort of chap
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11:30am Sun 24 Jun 12
EAT THE RICH ! ! !
Get back to work
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11:37am Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Your not working class though are you ? your still classed as a peasant and always will be and at the very least a SERF !! You`re bone idle lazy and theres not much more to say about it..
Get back to work wrote:Yes, it IS indeed "payback time". We the Working Class did our bit in the Industrial Revolution, and now it's over they owe us a living. You cannot avoid that truth no matter how much of a little Tory tantrum you throw. There is no industry, ther ar no jobs, and now thye owe us a living, no two ways about bit, completely unavoidable, and nothing else for it but stfu and pay our dole. The so-called 'Work Programme' is merely more smoke and mirrors, to fool the likes of you, will get NO ONE into permanent work! hahahaha
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:You owe your self a living .. you and your family / fore fathers have been notorious scroungers for years, bringing down this once decent city. and now its payback time. You seem to always harp back to when we had an industry .. I VERY MUCH DOUBT that you would have worked in any mill 14hrs a day for a few pounds shilling and pence.. you wont work now for a few hundred quid a week. so move on get with the 21st century
Get back to work wrote:No, you are wrong, there are no jobs, there is no industry, and the State owes us all a living, and don't you ever forget it.
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
a reasonable sort of chap
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12:16pm Sun 24 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap
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12:19pm Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:You too are nothing more than a peasant my friend, and you always will be, so please don't think that by supporting the Tory oppressors you will somehow be exempt from the effects of their crazed plan.
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:Your not working class though are you ? your still classed as a peasant and always will be and at the very least a SERF !! You`re bone idle lazy and theres not much more to say about it..
Get back to work wrote:Yes, it IS indeed "payback time". We the Working Class did our bit in the Industrial Revolution, and now it's over they owe us a living. You cannot avoid that truth no matter how much of a little Tory tantrum you throw. There is no industry, ther ar no jobs, and now thye owe us a living, no two ways about bit, completely unavoidable, and nothing else for it but stfu and pay our dole. The so-called 'Work Programme' is merely more smoke and mirrors, to fool the likes of you, will get NO ONE into permanent work! hahahaha
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:You owe your self a living .. you and your family / fore fathers have been notorious scroungers for years, bringing down this once decent city. and now its payback time. You seem to always harp back to when we had an industry .. I VERY MUCH DOUBT that you would have worked in any mill 14hrs a day for a few pounds shilling and pence.. you wont work now for a few hundred quid a week. so move on get with the 21st century
Get back to work wrote:No, you are wrong, there are no jobs, there is no industry, and the State owes us all a living, and don't you ever forget it.
Relish wrote:Ahh C`mon, Theres plenty of jobs out there. Some people just think that there either beneath them to do, or wont do them because their better off on benefits. Theres also plenty of organisations willing to help those in need of work too. I can safely say i would do anything and i mean anything as long as it brought money into my house to feed my familly. Benefits are great but they should only be there as a temporary measure untill work is found or for those incapable of working. And above anything its SELF RESPECT i cant imagine my kids growing up thinking Dad was a lazy sponging t*at that sat at home all day not contributing to society. So in response to your comment RELISH theres a job for everyone out there and if your one of the unfortunate ones not to have one, use the many organisations out there to get help finding them. or more so ask me ...
Barriers.... like no jobs??!
Enjoy slaving for your £18K p/a as a Work Coach, loser. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Get back to work
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1:09pm Sun 24 Jun 12
Prisoner Cell Block A
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5:25pm Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work
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8:03pm Sun 24 Jun 12
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I agree completely the jobcentre is more of an admin role than anything else..No experience or qualifications needed, thats why the DWP farm the responsibilty out to providers.. Who are skilled and qualified in ( or should be ) such specialist ares... And ARSOC before you start bleeting like a strangled sparrow saying they dont do this and dont do that BLAH BLAH BLAH they probably dont waste their time on you because they know your a hopeless case and would rather channel their energy on someone who wants and deserves help.. not someone who thinks the world owes them a living because your ancestors were at the battle of hastings and centuries later it means your entitled to live a life of luxury.
During QT last week, a recently made redundant H R manger had done a lot of research and quoted she had found a mix of full time, part time and temporary jobs/work, the figure? 445,000 her comments after were even more interesting. The people working in the JCs didn't have the skillsets to enable them to enable the unemployed. They could harrangue you and arrange to watch you sign on but very few could point you towards a job.
allinittogether
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9:03pm Sun 24 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:Helping people and charging a fat fee for the privilege? Either from the worker, the employer or the taxpayer.
£18k i think you`re mistaking me with someone that works at the office you attend .. FYI i happen to be self employed and can command what i earn and who i help. Im not tied to one office as you seem to think. My job is helping those people in society that need help with finding work and not tied to losers like you on a daily basis. Enjoy your £70pw and council tax relief while it lasts. Oh and if you ever grow a spine and want to get a life just mail me and ill have you in work at the drop of a hat...
"Consultants" the Tories idea of businessmen!
Prisoner Cell Block A
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12:54pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:She struggled to find any resource with more than a small amount of knowledge. This was a HR manager, not some fresh out of school or person who had been employed in a single role for 25 years +, a HR manager who couldn't find out the correct info from any local or national resource. And before this is twisted against her, she answered the critics at the time who said maybe it was her. It is a failed and failing system but does enable whoever is the current encumbent of power to use as a tool to beat the poor and young and squeeze just a little harder.
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I agree completely the jobcentre is more of an admin role than anything else..No experience or qualifications needed, thats why the DWP farm the responsibilty out to providers.. Who are skilled and qualified in ( or should be ) such specialist ares... And ARSOC before you start bleeting like a strangled sparrow saying they dont do this and dont do that BLAH BLAH BLAH they probably dont waste their time on you because they know your a hopeless case and would rather channel their energy on someone who wants and deserves help.. not someone who thinks the world owes them a living because your ancestors were at the battle of hastings and centuries later it means your entitled to live a life of luxury.
During QT last week, a recently made redundant H R manger had done a lot of research and quoted she had found a mix of full time, part time and temporary jobs/work, the figure? 445,000 her comments after were even more interesting. The people working in the JCs didn't have the skillsets to enable them to enable the unemployed. They could harrangue you and arrange to watch you sign on but very few could point you towards a job.
Reading between the lines I reckon you could swap half the dole queue for half the soul-less JC employees and not notice a difference in quality or unemployment numbers.
Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:34pm Mon 25 Jun 12
a reasonable sort of chap
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10:33pm Wed 27 Jun 12
Get back to work wrote:Once again you are mistaken, the Work Programme providers are NOT skilled or qualified in such specialist areas. I've seen the job advertised (more than once), and they're setting anyone on, well almost anyone (they wouldn't have me), many of whom do not have a background in training, counselling, or anything connected with employment issues, rather they seem to be of a mixture of different backgrounds, some ex-engineers, etc. and/or people with sales experience. Besides which, there is no industry, there are no jobs, there aren't going to be any jobs, and the vast majority of the long-term unemployed are, in fact, completely unemployable in any conventional sense.
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:I agree completely the jobcentre is more of an admin role than anything else..No experience or qualifications needed, thats why the DWP farm the responsibilty out to providers.. Who are skilled and qualified in ( or should be ) such specialist ares... And ARSOC before you start bleeting like a strangled sparrow saying they dont do this and dont do that BLAH BLAH BLAH they probably dont waste their time on you because they know your a hopeless case and would rather channel their energy on someone who wants and deserves help.. not someone who thinks the world owes them a living because your ancestors were at the battle of hastings and centuries later it means your entitled to live a life of luxury.
During QT last week, a recently made redundant H R manger had done a lot of research and quoted she had found a mix of full time, part time and temporary jobs/work, the figure? 445,000 her comments after were even more interesting. The people working in the JCs didn't have the skillsets to enable them to enable the unemployed. They could harrangue you and arrange to watch you sign on but very few could point you towards a job.
The reason the present Government are moving the work to private companies, and reducing the Jobcentres to an administrative role, is that they (the Tories) are ideologically driven to dismantle our State, and certainly not for any real economic reasons as part of some ostensible plan of fiscal recovery, as they would have you believe!
Andy2010
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12:40pm Thu 28 Jun 12
On a quick view of the jobcentre vacancies in and around a 5 miles radius of the city centre they have logged over 300 this week already. Admittedly these are low paid jobs but A JOB IS A JOB. What people on are complainingabout is having to give up their cushy lazy lives and have to get up in the morning and go to a job for a marginal increase in their income
Get back to work says...
10:27am Sat 23 Jun 12