'One teacher attacked in district every day' claims union (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Was not like that in my day!
Absolute disgace.
So modern methods have failed us, when we going back 50 years to standards then?

Surprised we haven't already had the usual T&A pub sociologists with "well, they should stop moaning, they get enough holidays don't they?"

All the do-gooder lefties, including some teachers, brought this problem about some years ago with the campaign for less discipline/physical punishment. Society is now far too soft in general, there is no deterrent.

As a society we have allowed a couple of generations do what they want. Little or no punishment for crimes comitted and declining moral values combined with an "I know my rights" attitude are now permeating down to the next generations. Given the example kids get set at home what do people expect to happen when they go to school?

Now Read between the lines.
A Verbal Attack !
Oh No words......
A verbal attack can be something as simple as protesting innocence.
Always make sure you read the tin with this lot !

Old Story, But No One Listens
Their Attitude Up Your Jack I'm Alright
When Is Tis Coiuntry Going To Do ANYTHING, Bring The olds days back WITH URGENCY
DICIPLINE, & RESPECT, Without these you have nothing
& Tell the Doogooders To Go Play On The Motorways
They Are Just Trouble Causers,
Corporal Punishment Is Needed & Not Molly Coddling
Its Proven Time & Time Again
Softly softly Does Not Work
Time To Give Back Control To The Teachers, & Dish Out Diciple Where Needed

Sorry but little sympathy for teachers,their liberal 70s based educational ideology is finally coming home to roost.No punishment,no competition etc.Putting kids on pedestals and telling them they are amazing.Political correctness and a culture where the child is wrapped in tissue.Too much carrot and no stick.If you think these kids are bad now,wait until they hit the streets as adults....it's time to revert to the old methods...we were just kids who weren't given respect or responsibility until we earned it.

This (as others have already indicated) illustrates the failure of policies throughout society over recent decades, Robbers, assailants, sex offenders and various wrongdoers getting cautions from the (to most of us) mysterious, absent and unapproachable police.
Scant regard for good manners or etiquette is evident both in parents and children.
If any attempt is made (very doubtful) to rectify the situation, it will be a very long and hard journey, I don't even think that there is the required moral fibre at the top any more to do anything.

The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

Iftikhar wrote:
The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

Iftikhar at his most amusing.

Iftikhar wrote:
The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

Really? I know plenty of Muslims that went to mixed schools and have turned out fine and had successful careers to boot and they have good morels and life skills, stop trying to segregate a portion of society, its ludicrous, what’s wrong with the parents of these 'bilingual' children helping them with their cultural studies?

Children and I mean 'ALL' children only grow and develop by learning and understanding and experiencing all sections in life as they grow up. Effectively segregating these kids as they grow up only hinders their development in life with is a direct factor in the cultural divide that Bradford is currently facing. My view has always been, understanding is only gained from people learning from each other. If people have issues with this 'westernised' culture the simple fact of the matter is don’t travel west.

Albion. wrote:

Iftikhar wrote:
The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

Iftikhar at his most amusing.

Whatever happened to 'integration' this would only further the gap between Asian and white kids - not a good idea.
regarding the origional concept of the newspaper article - all this trouble has arisen since the abolition of corporal punishment in schools. i had the cane and the slipper a few times when I was at school, and I'm the first person to admit that I most likely deserved it. However it did teach me a certain respect for the concept of authority which I still maintain to this day.

mad matt wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Iftikhar wrote:
The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

Iftikhar at his most amusing.

Whatever happened to 'integration' this would only further the gap between Asian and white kids - not a good idea.
regarding the origional concept of the newspaper article - all this trouble has arisen since the abolition of corporal punishment in schools. i had the cane and the slipper a few times when I was at school, and I'm the first person to admit that I most likely deserved it. However it did teach me a certain respect for the concept of authority which I still maintain to this day.

@ mad matt

I agree, bring back the cane in all schools, take away the silly "rights" these kids have which they clearly abuse, and then we'll see just how many of them think it'd be fun to disrupt a class or assault a teacher!

I didnt mind kids messing about hen I was younger, but today I see them out there running rampant then I have to hold myslef from beating them all! They really are that bad, and I can tell you, having a reasonable conversation with these brats to try to tell them why what they are doing is wrong, just falls on deaf ears. Well to be honest they hear it, but then they take it as a cue to continue doing it to annoy and pester you.

How many others have wanted to just go out and slap one of these brats silly? I know if we could they wouldnt be hanging around my neighbourhood acting like they own the place!

As stated, the kids dont care, the parents dont care, so where are these kids learning how to be a decent person from? They arent! They have no respect for anyone but themselves, not even their own parents! They have no respect for other peoples' property; we see kids throwing stones for fun, purposely smashing windows and hitting cars.

The only way we can stop this is if we can go out and stop them ourselves. They know we cannot lay a finger on them, hence why they do what they want. Remove that law, it's ruining our country and our society!

Iftikhar wrote:
The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

There is so much cr*p in this letter, I wouldn't know where to start.But I will say that bilingual teachers shouldn't be needed for 3rd/4th generation Asians whose parents were born and educated in this country.First language should be English!This passive/antagonistic attitude is responsible for much of the strain on public services....quote 'There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school'....doubtless plenty would agree if the same worked both ways, but again you are promoting segregation, which is a large part of the problem in Bradford.

Albion. wrote:
This (as others have already indicated) illustrates the failure of policies throughout society over recent decades, Robbers, assailants, sex offenders and various wrongdoers getting cautions from the (to most of us) mysterious, absent and unapproachable police.
Scant regard for good manners or etiquette is evident both in parents and children.
If any attempt is made (very doubtful) to rectify the situation, it will be a very long and hard journey, I don't even think that there is the required moral fibre at the top any more to do anything.

Iftikar is right. Muslims should be taught in all Muslims schools. Its a well known fact that non Muslim children taught in a majority Muslim school will be academically held back

Try learning English seeing as this is England. If you don't, don't expect to get a job. End of.

So Iftikhar wants Muslim schools for Muslim children? You going to fund this then Iftikhar. If you want total segregation you are heading in the right direction!

Bring back the cane.

easy solved ---exclusion

Smell the coffee wrote:

Albion. wrote:
This (as others have already indicated) illustrates the failure of policies throughout society over recent decades, Robbers, assailants, sex offenders and various wrongdoers getting cautions from the (to most of us) mysterious, absent and unapproachable police.
Scant regard for good manners or etiquette is evident both in parents and children.
If any attempt is made (very doubtful) to rectify the situation, it will be a very long and hard journey, I don't even think that there is the required moral fibre at the top any more to do anything.

Iftikar is right. Muslims should be taught in all Muslims schools. Its a well known fact that non Muslim children taught in a majority Muslim school will be academically held back

I'm afraid bringing religion into education is morally wrong. So any seperated schools on religious grounds should be a non-starter including the Catholic schools that currently exist.

Unless of course you can prove that prayer+devotion=deit
y like you can 2+2=4 then there is no place for mythical stories, arguments or even knowledge. This also denies time to spend on subjects that are worth learning about, can always get grandma or grandad to tell a nursery story.

Back top the topic, social standards, education standards and an ever increasing 'dumb' population are all part of the move to the 'left' in education. Kids need to be taught right from wrong and punished if telling doesn't work. We had a respectful society as recently as the 70s when these changes started to take place, it doesn't need 'divine' knowledge to work out why it started to go wrong, spare the rod, spoil the child. ( the rod doesn't need to be used to beat, a metaphoric rod is as effective) but with little or no deterrent we now see where we are as a society, schools are just a reflection.

'One teacher attacked in district every day'?

He must be getting pretty fed up, then...

Banjaxed wrote:
'One teacher attacked in district every day'?

He must be getting pretty fed up, then...

Or be a really bad teacher. Nice one Banjaxed, made me smile.

Teacher these days are not respected they do not have the right anymore to tell these little monsters off they cannot shout at them god forbid if they lay a finger on them, they made this situstion bring back the cane.

I had a teacher in school nearly 25yrs ago she lives near me i am still scared of her but she is a lovely woman.she demanded respect in her day and got it.

Joedavid wrote:
Was not like that in my day!
Absolute disgace.
So modern methods have failed us, when we going back 50 years to standards then?

I don't know which school you went to but we had two teachers stabbed back in the early 70's. A pockets turn out used to reveal enough cutlery to supply the Ghurkas

ministry_of_justice wrote:

Iftikhar wrote: The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others. There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands. IA

There is so much cr*p in this letter, I wouldn't know where to start.But I will say that bilingual teachers shouldn't be needed for 3rd/4th generation Asians whose parents were born and educated in this country.First language should be English!This passive/antagonistic attitude is responsible for much of the strain on public services....quote 'There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school'....doubtless plenty would agree if the same worked both ways, but again you are promoting segregation, which is a large part of the problem in Bradford.

Absolutely correct.

It seems islam was the reason why a young girl was murdered by her parents lets not bring religion into this, The thing about teachers is that nobody has respect for them there are far too many bad teachers that take the shine off the good ones. They should be sacked, headteachers have been pulling away from mainstream teaching, maths, english ,science because there arent good teachers instead they try to spend more time on citizenship,RE, because they can get the grades up easier for offstead. If you have a child in school in bradford they will have no sympathy for teachers...

AntiDrug wrote:
Old Story, But No One Listens Their Attitude Up Your Jack I'm Alright When Is Tis Coiuntry Going To Do ANYTHING, Bring The olds days back WITH URGENCY DICIPLINE, & RESPECT, Without these you have nothing & Tell the Doogooders To Go Play On The Motorways They Are Just Trouble Causers, Corporal Punishment Is Needed & Not Molly Coddling Its Proven Time & Time Again Softly softly Does Not Work Time To Give Back Control To The Teachers, & Dish Out Diciple Where Needed

I love this post reminds me of the old days. On the down point i once not that long ago told my kids to go play on the motorway. About a week later i got a knock on the door from social services. They said they wanted to talk about my language towards my children. They said that comment was very inappropriate and should not be used. My point put all the doogooders on a boat to ? Bring back the Cain and give the little bundles of joy a clip round the ear as and when.

mad matt wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Iftikhar wrote:
The schools in Bradford are in a bad shapes. Teachers and children are victim of abuse and violance Bilingual Muslim children suffer more than others.

There are lot of state primary and secondary schools in Bradford where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslm children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA

Iftikhar at his most amusing.

Whatever happened to 'integration' this would only further the gap between Asian and white kids - not a good idea.
regarding the origional concept of the newspaper article - all this trouble has arisen since the abolition of corporal punishment in schools. i had the cane and the slipper a few times when I was at school, and I'm the first person to admit that I most likely deserved it. However it did teach me a certain respect for the concept of authority which I still maintain to this day.

what planet are you from, I'm muslim and I went to a mixed school, I ended up achieving a medical degree. The only difference today is teachers are not allowed to dicipline without the fear of diciplinary. Bring back the cane. Schools need to be allowed to punsih those that do wrong and if the parents dont like it, tough.

theazbo wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Old Story, But No One Listens Their Attitude Up Your Jack I'm Alright When Is Tis Coiuntry Going To Do ANYTHING, Bring The olds days back WITH URGENCY DICIPLINE, & RESPECT, Without these you have nothing & Tell the Doogooders To Go Play On The Motorways They Are Just Trouble Causers, Corporal Punishment Is Needed & Not Molly Coddling Its Proven Time & Time Again Softly softly Does Not Work Time To Give Back Control To The Teachers, & Dish Out Diciple Where Needed

I love this post reminds me of the old days. On the down point i once not that long ago told my kids to go play on the motorway. About a week later i got a knock on the door from social services. They said they wanted to talk about my language towards my children. They said that comment was very inappropriate and should not be used. My point put all the doogooders on a boat to ? Bring back the Cain and give the little bundles of joy a clip round the ear as and when.

I'm sure Mr Dingle would be happy to oblige.

In principle, I agree with Iftikhar. I like the idea of bilingual teaching, particularly in mixed race schools. However, I'd urge caution when engaging with the subject of segregation.

We should promote those languages representative of successful economies i.e. Mandarin, Hindi, etc. There's nothing wrong with having Muslim schools, just as there is nothing wrong with Christian schools, but they should teach the national curriculum. Would a bilingual Islamic school teach their children Hindi? In the future our multicultural schools may opt to do just that! It would be useful for all English children to be bilingual.

Commonsensefirst wrote:
In principle, I agree with Iftikhar. I like the idea of bilingual teaching, particularly in mixed race schools. However, I'd urge caution when engaging with the subject of segregation. We should promote those languages representative of successful economies i.e. Mandarin, Hindi, etc. There's nothing wrong with having Muslim schools, just as there is nothing wrong with Christian schools, but they should teach the national curriculum. Would a bilingual Islamic school teach their children Hindi? In the future our multicultural schools may opt to do just that! It would be useful for all English children to be bilingual.

You agree with Iftikhar?? The man is a certifiable nutcase.

'There's nothing wrong with Muslim schools' you say. Really? Nothing at all? I doubt very much you'd be happy to send your children to one even IF they stuck to the national curriculum. Be honest now..

And finally your lofty aspirations about bilingualism are all well and good but in the real world I think you'll find that there are many kids that have yet to master monolingualism. Let's not run before we can walk eh?

And you call yourself 'Commonsensefirst'??

Teachers deserve a medal these days, so a huge pay increase and a better pension is the least they can expect.

ministry_of_justice wrote:
Sorry but little sympathy for teachers,their liberal 70s based educational ideology is finally coming home to roost.No punishment,no competition etc.Putting kids on pedestals and telling them they are amazing.Political correctness and a culture where the child is wrapped in tissue.Too much carrot and no stick.If you think these kids are bad now,wait until they hit the streets as adults....it's time to revert to the old methods...we were just kids who weren't given respect or responsibility until we earned it.

"If you think these kids are bad now,wait until they hit the streets as adults."

Yes, they may turn out to be psychopathic monsters like this cowardly nonce, Anthony Lee of Keighley, who deserves a good kicking imo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-lee
ds-18167422

The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background. Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents. It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children. Migrant Muslims are not economic slaves. They are part and parcel of British society with their own cultures, languages and faith. Migrant Muslims need to preserve and transmit their cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities; otherwise, they will be lost in the western jungle. Learning Arabic, Urdu and other community languages do not deter people from integrating. It helps them integrate. British schooling is at war with Migrant Muslims learning Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. Multilingualism should be celebrated because it is an asset but British education regards it as a problem.

We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPAS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society. Most of them say that they have experienced race discrimination and religious prejudice. Muslims and Islam is promoted a fundamentalist and separatist by the western elite, which have negative impact on community and social cohesion. The number of racist incidents occurring in London Borough of Redbridge’s schools have reached their highest levels since record begin. Racism is the biggest type of bullying at schools in Bradford accounting for 75 per cent of incidents during the last academic year, it has been revealed.

According to recent studies, bilingual Muslim pupils feel unsafe and unwelcome in state or public schools because they are bullied by native children. Anthropologist Laura Gillian from Danish Pedagogic University, who has carried out field work, believes that many minority children feel that they do not belong in their schools. The feeling of alienation, as well as dissatisfaction with the curriculum, has been brewing for a long time with the result that many ethnic groups have started their own private schools. The Manifesto of the Norwegian Terrorist and mass murderer clearly states that in Europe Pakistani Muslims are on the increase because of migration and high birth rate and one day they are going to demand the Pakistan of Europe. When he was in school, he was afraid of a Pakistani gang. He is afraid of popularity of Islam and revertion of Europeans.

Community cohesion has failed because there is a negative experience of mutual understanding and cooperation between the hostile host community and Muslim community. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children outnumbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. Muslim children need Muslim teachers during their developmental periods. For higher studies and research, Muslim teacher is not a priority.

There are good grounds for believing that linguistic and intercultural competence are more important than ever in preparation for global citizenship and for life in multicultural societies. In this context, community languages represent a valuable resource for individual and society and yet they have been marginalised in British education system. There has been a failure to locate them within language and literacy policies and to recognise links to inclusion, community cohesion and citizenship. According to a French political sociologist, Muslims in Europe feel that they are not welcome. Inspite of official initiative, a significant minority see institutional racism across the board. Blatant racism exists in parts of the world of work. Religious intolerance is “the new racism” and one of the main causes of persecution of minorities. Terrorism efforts and economic marginalisation are increasingly being associated with religion, not ethnicity. In my opinion, British schooling has been producing Muslim youths with anger, extremism and frustration. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions. The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters. There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment. They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life. British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. BNP, EDL and all other main political parties are the true photo of the racist British society. Why not NATO and all the other WATCH DOGS group impose sanction on England, for not doing anything to tackle the racism in their Country. These so-called organisations can interfere with the Middle East Countries, to rape the people of their OIL! But can’t do anything about the racism and exploitation of minority groups in England. When these societies oppress some groups, and unleash the monster then, and the people retaliate, then they call them terrorist! Need some serious pro-action instead of reaction. According to DFE, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies. The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education. Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off. There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools. The British teachers have no respect for Islamic faith and Muslim community. Western education system can easily deprogram Muslim children and force them to adopt un-Islamic values. Let the Muslim parents decides how and where to educate their children. According to MORI social research institute on behalf of Bristol LEA, nine out of ten Muslim parents agreed with the model of an Islamic secondary school set up within the state system. I rejected British schooling for Muslim children in the early 70s. I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools since then. I set up the first Muslim school in London in 1981. At the time of 9/11, there were only 54 schools and now there are more than168 full time Muslim schools and more are in the pipe lines. Only 12 Muslim schools are state funded. According to a report, the majority of Islamist terrorists in the UK are British born and educated is under the age of 30, well educated and likely to be employed. Most terrorism in Britain is committed by home-grown terrorists. Britain’s fight against terrorism has been a disaster. It has alienated Muslim youths. The campaign has targeted non-violent Muslims and branded them as supporters of violence. Britain remains under severe risk from terror attacks. The government policy had made the task of the police harder by alienating Muslim youths. The staffs at Gendale Primary in Pollokshield, where Muslim children are in majority, are being asked to look for signs of radicalisation. It is an increibly worrying development. We cannot have a culture of teachers spying on Muslim children as young as five. Racism is very ripe in Scottish schools and society. Muslim and other minority children has been victim of racism in all walks of life. LAs and schools are trying their best to hide this issue under the carpet. Hardly anybody was convicted or imprisoned by the Authorities. What do you expect from Muslim youths when they have been victim of racism throughout their development periods? Now Muslim youths are victim of terrorism. Thousands of them are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar without any trials.

Bilingualism can help pupils' all-round education and should be encouraged. Children who know an “eastern” as well as a “western” language are more academically able than others. With the pace at which the world interacts today, multi-lingualism is a step forward. Almost all recent research literature agrees that if you want children whose home language is not English to excel in English –medium schools, it is important to nurture and acknowledge that first language alongside their English development. Cultivating bilingualism could and should promote pupil’s linguistic development. Muslim community feels that state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not suitable for bilingual Muslim children. The number of Muslim schools is on the increase and I believe that by 2020 there will be more than 500 Muslim schools. Muslim schools give young children self-confidence and self-esteem in who they are and an understanding of Islamic teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. According to a study by ioe, putting children in classes with a range of minority children does not necessarily lead to improved race relation. Native children become less tolerant of minority classmates after being overtaken by them in lessons. It seems that minorities are only accepted by majority pupils if they stay in a subordinate position. Minorities may not be perceived as a threat when they are struggling to succeed, but as they increase their status and become more adept at finding their way in society, this seems to change. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. Muslim schools protect Muslim children from the onslaught of Euro-centrism, homosexuality, racism, binge drinking, drug addiction, incivility, anti-social behavior, teenage pregnancies and abortions and secular traditions. Muslim schools made pupils aware of their future role as proactive British Muslims and left them well prepared for life in a multicultural society. Under British education system, Muslim children will distance themselves from their culture, languages and faith. There is nothing left but their beautiful Muslim names.

English is one of the most damaging subject, reflects secular and immoral beliefs that contradict the viewpoint of Islam. Romeo and Juliet of Shakespeare advocates disobeying parents and premarital relations. Most people know English as a language, perhaps as a global language. Now English has become an industry, according to Ahmar Mahboob from the University of Sydney. There are a range of commercial, economic, and industrial interests that are affiliated to it. It is these interests that we will call 'industry'. English language relates to the interests of corporations and governments, who use the language to make money and to promote certain beliefs and practices. As English was (and is) learnt in many parts of the world as an additional language, the learners need teachers, teaching material, and language tests, etc. This need for teachers and material has led to a development of a large number of local, national, and multinational corporations that train and produce these human and material resources. Speaking English does not promote integration into British, American and Australian societies, and broaden opportunities. English speaking Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist, thanks to English language. English language is not only a lingua franca but also lingua frankensteinia. Human right is also covers linguistic right. Cultural and linguistic genocide are very common. English is today the world killer language. Linguistic genocide is a crime against humanity and British schooling is guilty of committing this crime.

Official figures show that almost one million pupils speak English as a second language but British schooling has been accused of making them notoriously monolingual Brits. The teachers even discourage children to speak their languages at schools. The teachers do not teach them Standard English. The children learn local English accent in playground and in street. British schooling is also responsible for turning away bilingual migrant children from their mother tongues. It does not encourage or provide facilities for the teaching and learning of their languages. There is a positive co-relation between British schooling and Aborigines Protection Act. It enabled to remove children from their parents and to place them in institutions so that they could forget their cultural roots and languages. British schooling has been anglocising Muslim children and they find themselves cut off from their cultural heritage and languages. Teaching profession does not like Muslim children attending Masajid in the evening or at weekends to learn the Holy Quran, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. Even full time Muslim schools have been classified as “Osama bin Laden Academies” by Nasuwt Teaching Union. Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim culture--the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity. Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.

The present structure of OFSTED is not in a position to inspect Muslim schools properly. There is a dire need for bilingual Muslim Inspectors. Non-Muslim monolingual Inspectors are not in a position to inspect Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim children. OFSTED should employ bilingual Muslim inspectors for the inspection who should not only be well versed in English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages but also in sciences and humanities. Muslim girl schools should be inspected by Muslim ladies inspectors. They must make sure that Bilingual Muslims children have a right, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum.

Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. The problem is that they learn English in the streets and in the playgrounds. British schooling does not teach English to migrant children. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are bilingual Muslims. They often speak "street" with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classrooms. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it's role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects. Bilingual Muslim teachers are in a better position to teach English to their children.

Iftikhar Ahmad

@ Iftikhar Ahmad.

In one sentence; you disgust me, your argument has more holes than it's worth pointing out. I'm disinclined to waste any more of my time and effort on you, but you really are an appalling individual.

Oh, and one last point; homosexuality and abortion, amongst others, are legal. You may frown upon this, but that is only your opinion, and they certainly do not deserve to be grouped amongst other criminal activities.

Please try in the future to not be so blatantly uneducated, it leaves a nasty aftertaste in the mouth.

bradders2011 wrote:
@ Iftikhar Ahmad.

In one sentence; you disgust me, your argument has more holes than it's worth pointing out. I'm disinclined to waste any more of my time and effort on you, but you really are an appalling individual.

Oh, and one last point; homosexuality and abortion, amongst others, are legal. You may frown upon this, but that is only your opinion, and they certainly do not deserve to be grouped amongst other criminal activities.

Please try in the future to not be so blatantly uneducated, it leaves a nasty aftertaste in the mouth.

"You may frown upon this, but that is only your opinion,"
It isn't his opinion! It is the opinion of the nonsense that he follows.

@Albion:

Good point! And he has shot himself in the foot a little there with his argument for segregating children, methinks?

Iftikhar wrote:
The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background. Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents. It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children. Migrant Muslims are not economic slaves. They are part and parcel of British society with their own cultures, languages and faith. Migrant Muslims need to preserve and transmit their cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities; otherwise, they will be lost in the western jungle. Learning Arabic, Urdu and other community languages do not deter people from integrating. It helps them integrate. British schooling is at war with Migrant Muslims learning Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. Multilingualism should be celebrated because it is an asset but British education regards it as a problem. We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPAS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society. Most of them say that they have experienced race discrimination and religious prejudice. Muslims and Islam is promoted a fundamentalist and separatist by the western elite, which have negative impact on community and social cohesion. The number of racist incidents occurring in London Borough of Redbridge’s schools have reached their highest levels since record begin. Racism is the biggest type of bullying at schools in Bradford accounting for 75 per cent of incidents during the last academic year, it has been revealed. According to recent studies, bilingual Muslim pupils feel unsafe and unwelcome in state or public schools because they are bullied by native children. Anthropologist Laura Gillian from Danish Pedagogic University, who has carried out field work, believes that many minority children feel that they do not belong in their schools. The feeling of alienation, as well as dissatisfaction with the curriculum, has been brewing for a long time with the result that many ethnic groups have started their own private schools. The Manifesto of the Norwegian Terrorist and mass murderer clearly states that in Europe Pakistani Muslims are on the increase because of migration and high birth rate and one day they are going to demand the Pakistan of Europe. When he was in school, he was afraid of a Pakistani gang. He is afraid of popularity of Islam and revertion of Europeans. Community cohesion has failed because there is a negative experience of mutual understanding and cooperation between the hostile host community and Muslim community. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children outnumbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. Muslim children need Muslim teachers during their developmental periods. For higher studies and research, Muslim teacher is not a priority. There are good grounds for believing that linguistic and intercultural competence are more important than ever in preparation for global citizenship and for life in multicultural societies. In this context, community languages represent a valuable resource for individual and society and yet they have been marginalised in British education system. There has been a failure to locate them within language and literacy policies and to recognise links to inclusion, community cohesion and citizenship. According to a French political sociologist, Muslims in Europe feel that they are not welcome. Inspite of official initiative, a significant minority see institutional racism across the board. Blatant racism exists in parts of the world of work. Religious intolerance is “the new racism” and one of the main causes of persecution of minorities. Terrorism efforts and economic marginalisation are increasingly being associated with religion, not ethnicity. In my opinion, British schooling has been producing Muslim youths with anger, extremism and frustration. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions. The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters. There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment. They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life. British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. BNP, EDL and all other main political parties are the true photo of the racist British society. Why not NATO and all the other WATCH DOGS group impose sanction on England, for not doing anything to tackle the racism in their Country. These so-called organisations can interfere with the Middle East Countries, to rape the people of their OIL! But can’t do anything about the racism and exploitation of minority groups in England. When these societies oppress some groups, and unleash the monster then, and the people retaliate, then they call them terrorist! Need some serious pro-action instead of reaction. According to DFE, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies. The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education. Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off. There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools. The British teachers have no respect for Islamic faith and Muslim community. Western education system can easily deprogram Muslim children and force them to adopt un-Islamic values. Let the Muslim parents decides how and where to educate their children. According to MORI social research institute on behalf of Bristol LEA, nine out of ten Muslim parents agreed with the model of an Islamic secondary school set up within the state system. I rejected British schooling for Muslim children in the early 70s. I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools since then. I set up the first Muslim school in London in 1981. At the time of 9/11, there were only 54 schools and now there are more than168 full time Muslim schools and more are in the pipe lines. Only 12 Muslim schools are state funded. According to a report, the majority of Islamist terrorists in the UK are British born and educated is under the age of 30, well educated and likely to be employed. Most terrorism in Britain is committed by home-grown terrorists. Britain’s fight against terrorism has been a disaster. It has alienated Muslim youths. The campaign has targeted non-violent Muslims and branded them as supporters of violence. Britain remains under severe risk from terror attacks. The government policy had made the task of the police harder by alienating Muslim youths. The staffs at Gendale Primary in Pollokshield, where Muslim children are in majority, are being asked to look for signs of radicalisation. It is an increibly worrying development. We cannot have a culture of teachers spying on Muslim children as young as five. Racism is very ripe in Scottish schools and society. Muslim and other minority children has been victim of racism in all walks of life. LAs and schools are trying their best to hide this issue under the carpet. Hardly anybody was convicted or imprisoned by the Authorities. What do you expect from Muslim youths when they have been victim of racism throughout their development periods? Now Muslim youths are victim of terrorism. Thousands of them are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar without any trials. Bilingualism can help pupils' all-round education and should be encouraged. Children who know an “eastern” as well as a “western” language are more academically able than others. With the pace at which the world interacts today, multi-lingualism is a step forward. Almost all recent research literature agrees that if you want children whose home language is not English to excel in English –medium schools, it is important to nurture and acknowledge that first language alongside their English development. Cultivating bilingualism could and should promote pupil’s linguistic development. Muslim community feels that state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not suitable for bilingual Muslim children. The number of Muslim schools is on the increase and I believe that by 2020 there will be more than 500 Muslim schools. Muslim schools give young children self-confidence and self-esteem in who they are and an understanding of Islamic teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. According to a study by ioe, putting children in classes with a range of minority children does not necessarily lead to improved race relation. Native children become less tolerant of minority classmates after being overtaken by them in lessons. It seems that minorities are only accepted by majority pupils if they stay in a subordinate position. Minorities may not be perceived as a threat when they are struggling to succeed, but as they increase their status and become more adept at finding their way in society, this seems to change. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. Muslim schools protect Muslim children from the onslaught of Euro-centrism, homosexuality, racism, binge drinking, drug addiction, incivility, anti-social behavior, teenage pregnancies and abortions and secular traditions. Muslim schools made pupils aware of their future role as proactive British Muslims and left them well prepared for life in a multicultural society. Under British education system, Muslim children will distance themselves from their culture, languages and faith. There is nothing left but their beautiful Muslim names. English is one of the most damaging subject, reflects secular and immoral beliefs that contradict the viewpoint of Islam. Romeo and Juliet of Shakespeare advocates disobeying parents and premarital relations. Most people know English as a language, perhaps as a global language. Now English has become an industry, according to Ahmar Mahboob from the University of Sydney. There are a range of commercial, economic, and industrial interests that are affiliated to it. It is these interests that we will call 'industry'. English language relates to the interests of corporations and governments, who use the language to make money and to promote certain beliefs and practices. As English was (and is) learnt in many parts of the world as an additional language, the learners need teachers, teaching material, and language tests, etc. This need for teachers and material has led to a development of a large number of local, national, and multinational corporations that train and produce these human and material resources. Speaking English does not promote integration into British, American and Australian societies, and broaden opportunities. English speaking Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist, thanks to English language. English language is not only a lingua franca but also lingua frankensteinia. Human right is also covers linguistic right. Cultural and linguistic genocide are very common. English is today the world killer language. Linguistic genocide is a crime against humanity and British schooling is guilty of committing this crime. Official figures show that almost one million pupils speak English as a second language but British schooling has been accused of making them notoriously monolingual Brits. The teachers even discourage children to speak their languages at schools. The teachers do not teach them Standard English. The children learn local English accent in playground and in street. British schooling is also responsible for turning away bilingual migrant children from their mother tongues. It does not encourage or provide facilities for the teaching and learning of their languages. There is a positive co-relation between British schooling and Aborigines Protection Act. It enabled to remove children from their parents and to place them in institutions so that they could forget their cultural roots and languages. British schooling has been anglocising Muslim children and they find themselves cut off from their cultural heritage and languages. Teaching profession does not like Muslim children attending Masajid in the evening or at weekends to learn the Holy Quran, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. Even full time Muslim schools have been classified as “Osama bin Laden Academies” by Nasuwt Teaching Union. Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim culture--the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity. Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture. The present structure of OFSTED is not in a position to inspect Muslim schools properly. There is a dire need for bilingual Muslim Inspectors. Non-Muslim monolingual Inspectors are not in a position to inspect Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim children. OFSTED should employ bilingual Muslim inspectors for the inspection who should not only be well versed in English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages but also in sciences and humanities. Muslim girl schools should be inspected by Muslim ladies inspectors. They must make sure that Bilingual Muslims children have a right, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. The problem is that they learn English in the streets and in the playgrounds. British schooling does not teach English to migrant children. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are bilingual Muslims. They often speak "street" with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classrooms. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it's role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects. Bilingual Muslim teachers are in a better position to teach English to their children. Iftikhar Ahmad

Superb script for the next ALI G film.

RELIGION has no place in any educational curriculum, apart from first day at school. God doesn't exist, Allah doesn't exist, Buddha doesn't exist. Vishnu, Shiva, don't exist.
That's a lot of time now left to learn about facts and figures not figments of imagination created to dominate stupid people.

One commandment is needed for the whole world. Be good.

American Black community and British Black community was forced to adopt your culture, language and faith but still they are the underdogs of American and British society. They have been treated worst than animals. Animals have more rights than Black community in both societies. Black president is the “show man” of the American society.

In the past Muslim community has been the vicitm of ****-bashing by the British society. Since 9/11 and 7/7, it is a vicitm of terrorism and now it is victim of sexual grooming. Lets us see what would happen next. At the time of 9/11 there were only 54 Muslim schools and none was state funded. Now there are round about 170 schools and only 12 are state funded. Now more and more Muslim schools will emerage because now Muslim community is a victim of sexual grooming.

Iftikhar wrote:
American Black community and British Black community was forced to adopt your culture, language and faith but still they are the underdogs of American and British society. They have been treated worst than animals. Animals have more rights than Black community in both societies. Black president is the “show man” of the American society.

In the past Muslim community has been the vicitm of ****-bashing by the British society. Since 9/11 and 7/7, it is a vicitm of terrorism and now it is victim of sexual grooming. Lets us see what would happen next. At the time of 9/11 there were only 54 Muslim schools and none was state funded. Now there are round about 170 schools and only 12 are state funded. Now more and more Muslim schools will emerage because now Muslim community is a victim of sexual grooming.

Do you mean all those naughty schoolgirls who are corrupting the poor innocent taxi drivers?

Excuse me, the victims of 9/11 7/7 and now sexual grooming???? So the perpretators are the victims and the victims are the perpetrators????

This one really needs explaining to me, I know some people will go to any lengths to defend 'their own' be it a viewpoint, family, country etc but to claim that Muslims are victims of the above attrocities just shows how barking you are fella.

What you are trying to say is that because of these events that Muslims are mistrusted, I do not see how it could be any other way. What I will say in your defence that if any of the perpetrators of the above attrocities were true Muslims and followed the faith as it should be according to the Koran then none of the above would have happened.

Moot point in my book because religion is an ****, any religion and anyone who follows a religion but cannot prove there is a God of any kind must be a fool. And as there has never been any proof nor will there be then all 'believers' are idiotic fools who need ignoring or lockingup before they can 'infest' any one else.