3,500 join Bradford dole queue in past year (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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3,500 join Bradford dole queue in past year
7:00am Thursday 16th February 2012 in Bradford By Marc Meneaud
More than 3,500 people in the Bradford district have joined the dole queue in the last year as the UK’s unemployment rate increased to a 16-year high, it was revealed yesterday.
The number of people in the district claiming jobseekers’ allowance jumped to 19,493 in January, compared to 18,583 the previous month – 5.9 per cent of the working population.
The figures published by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) showed that 3,585 more people were out of work than this time last year.
Bradford Council’s regeneration chief, Councillor David Green, said the rise in unemployment was a “significant issue”.
It means that the percentage of all those of working age across Bradford and receiving benefits is the highest in West Yorkshire and one per cent above the Yorkshire average of 4.9 per cent.
Coun Green said: “Bradford, like every other town and city in the country is suffering from the national and international recession and we have seen unemployment rise nationally as well as locally.
“In Bradford, we have had a number of companies which have had financial difficulties and have left people out of work.
“We are starting from a high unemployment figure, so an increase in the unemployment rate is a significant issue.”
He said the Council would support growth in the private sector so that companies can provide jobs for “disadvantaged groups” such as the long-term unemployed, young people and those with disabilities.
Coun Green said: “We realise that for people who have had employment, it is easier for them to find jobs than for those who have not been employed for a long time or have never worked and we are hoping to tackle this.
“We are also pushing ahead with regeneration and employment schemes, particularly in the city centre and the Aire Valley corridor, because we realise that the council has to support and enable private sector investment.”
Unemployment across the UK jumped by 48,000 in the quarter to December to 2.67 million, the worst figure since the end of 1995. The number of people claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance rose by 6,900 in January to 1.6 million, the 11th consecutive monthly increase.
Other data from the Office for National Statistics showed a 22,000 increase in youth unemployment to 1.04 million, which includes 307,000 in full-time education who were looking for work.
Comments(80)
Rambo
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8:43am Thu 16 Feb 12
And David Green is doing his usual routine of upon release of a negative figure, fact or statistic, he immediately compares Bradford to other towns and cities locally and nationally so he can show its not that bad as long as its happening somewhere else. Like the parking charges the other day when he compared it to everywhere else - people in bradford couldnt give a monkeys anus how they charge elsewhere, it matters only in context to the situation in Bradford.
windymiller
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9:02am Thu 16 Feb 12
It seems that employment is like the regeneration of the city centre. A Downward spiral - people with no money to spare and no shops to spend it in anyway. When will Green and his cohorts enter the world that real Bradfordians inhabit?
Avro
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9:12am Thu 16 Feb 12
Coun Green said: “Bradford, like every other town and city in the country is suffering from the national and international recession and we have seen unemployment rise nationally as well as locally."
Problem is that Bradford's recession has been going on for 8-10 years!!
Problem is that Bradford's recession has been going on for 8-10 years!!
thatsnotmyname
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9:19am Thu 16 Feb 12
Wonder how many of those new people where claiming sick before going onto jobseekers.
Willard
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9:52am Thu 16 Feb 12
thatsnotmyname wrote:I can only speak personally but after working for 30 years with not one sick day I lost my job at the end of January 2012. I have already signed on twice and been to the Job Centre 3 times with nothing on offer. It must be even harder to be 21 with a degree and a future and hopes and dreams, not to mention the student loan debt. The economy is on its **** but Bradford has lost thousands of jobs over the last 10 years.
Wonder how many of those new people where claiming sick before going onto jobseekers.
Wakeywakey
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10:39am Thu 16 Feb 12
Years gone by one could always find a job as a "Bobbin-Ligger" !
Willard
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11:48am Thu 16 Feb 12
Wakeywakey wrote:This made me laugh, when I was a teenager I had a job as a Flyper at Albion Mills, folding cloth for the menders then refolding or flyping it to go out to the finishers. I also worked at Gratton as a 'corrie boy' and made boxes for technical instruments for a place at the bottom of Barkerend Road. All hard work and you would get yelled at if you couldnt supply the trained trades with what they needed in time as they lost productivity bonus. All these entry jobs and the trades they supported have gone
Years gone by one could always find a job as a "Bobbin-Ligger" !
BD16
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12:09pm Thu 16 Feb 12
“Bradford, like every other town and city in the country is suffering from the national and international recession and we have seen unemployment rise nationally as well as locally"
We aren't in a recession and haven't been for a few years. It might seem a bit picky, and I have lots of sympathy with those who have been made unemployed, but people who keep moaning about a recession might be the ones to talk us into one. A bit of positive thinking goes a long way but this Green bloke seems to talk about everything as a negative.
We aren't in a recession and haven't been for a few years. It might seem a bit picky, and I have lots of sympathy with those who have been made unemployed, but people who keep moaning about a recession might be the ones to talk us into one. A bit of positive thinking goes a long way but this Green bloke seems to talk about everything as a negative.
Outraged Citizen
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1:12pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:Economic growth is so low it is practically non-existent and technically we are in recession:
“Bradford, like every other town and city in the country is suffering from the national and international recession and we have seen unemployment rise nationally as well as locally"
We aren't in a recession and haven't been for a few years. It might seem a bit picky, and I have lots of sympathy with those who have been made unemployed, but people who keep moaning about a recession might be the ones to talk us into one. A bit of positive thinking goes a long way but this Green bloke seems to talk about everything as a negative.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-16571049
Outraged Citizen
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1:16pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Wakeywakey wrote:Exactly. Try telling that to the DWP minions at the Jokecentre when they repeatedly ask, "how's your job search going?", or "what have you done to find work in the past fortnight?"
Years gone by one could always find a job as a "Bobbin-Ligger" !
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEADS:
THERE IS NO INDUSTRY, THERE ARE NO JOBS AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS HERE TO STAY !!!
Outraged Citizen
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1:25pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs!
People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do.
Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING.
http://watchinga4e.b
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People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do.
Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING.
http://watchinga4e.b
logspot.com/2012/02/
emma-gets-daily-mail
-treatment.html
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2099062/Fury-familie
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-YEAR-bulk-comes-tax
payer.html
http://johnnyvoid.wo
rdpress.com/2012/02/
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-uks-biggest-benefit
-cheat/
BD16
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1:29pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name.
Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/
How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
Outraged Citizen
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1:33pm Thu 16 Feb 12
“We are also pushing ahead with regeneration and employment schemes...because we realise that the council has to support and enable private sector investment.”
The so-called "employment schemes" consist of "mandatory work placements", whereby an unemployed person is forced against their will to work for one month for NO PAY or lose their Benefits. They have no rights and cannot join a Union. This gives greed-driven unscrupulous employers carte blanch to exploit the never-ending source of free labour. TESCO are one such company, and I think ASDA too, though Sainsbury's have bowed to Union pressure and are not taking part in this sham.
The so-called "employment schemes" consist of "mandatory work placements", whereby an unemployed person is forced against their will to work for one month for NO PAY or lose their Benefits. They have no rights and cannot join a Union. This gives greed-driven unscrupulous employers carte blanch to exploit the never-ending source of free labour. TESCO are one such company, and I think ASDA too, though Sainsbury's have bowed to Union pressure and are not taking part in this sham.
Superdoo
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1:33pm Thu 16 Feb 12
To Outraged Citizen, of course there are jobs available, just fewer of them with increased competition. You just have to try harder and whinging about A4E (I've had dealings with them professionally and they are rubbish) will not get you back into a job. I was made redundant after 30 years but I still got another job because I put the effort in instead of moaning.
Outraged Citizen
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1:37pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it?
Outraged Citizen wrote:Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name.
Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/
How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
*shakes head in disbelief*
WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.
Outraged Citizen
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1:38pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Superdoo wrote:Oh yes, silly me, plenty of jobs, plenty of booming industry...head in the sand?
To Outraged Citizen, of course there are jobs available, just fewer of them with increased competition. You just have to try harder and whinging about A4E (I've had dealings with them professionally and they are rubbish) will not get you back into a job. I was made redundant after 30 years but I still got another job because I put the effort in instead of moaning.
BD16
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1:48pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming.
BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?
Outraged Citizen
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1:49pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Cameron is pushing even more people on to the dole by altering tax credits. Now those in part-time work will be forced to quit their jobs and join the dole queue.
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Outraged Citizen
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1:53pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories.
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming.
BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?
And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof).
And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!
BD16
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2:03pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown.
BD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
Past history-present problem
Outraged Citizen
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2:20pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA.
Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown.
BD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
Past history-present problem
If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.
Outraged Citizen
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2:22pm Thu 16 Feb 12
p.s.
I never once voted for Blair.
I never once voted for Blair.
Outraged Citizen
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2:27pm Thu 16 Feb 12
The Tories and their not-so-cozy Lib-Dem sleeping partners, have come up with every pathetic excuse they can think of, blaming our problems on the previous Labour government, the sick & poor, the Japanese Tsunami, the winter weather, the Euro crisis, what next, Dutch Elm Disease? Anything but their own failed policies! IT WON'T WASH.
BD16
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2:31pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again.
BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option.
In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st centure Britain it doesn't.
BD16
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2:31pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again.
BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option.
In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st century Britain it doesn't.
Outraged Citizen
says...
2:49pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:"In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st century Britain it doesn't."
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again.
BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option.
In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st century Britain it doesn't.
Then why is Cameron handing out MILLIONS ££s to private companies and already mega-wealthy individuals?
Prisoner Cell Block A
says...
2:51pm Thu 16 Feb 12
It started when Thatcher turned the unions round, bent em over and shafted them then subsequently us. They may have been too powerful at one point but whose side were they on, ours or the govt?
The way out of the 'european' problem is to re-establish the strength of the unions Europe wide but do away with the european union altogether.
The way out of the 'european' problem is to re-establish the strength of the unions Europe wide but do away with the european union altogether.
Outraged Citizen
says...
2:52pm Thu 16 Feb 12
If Tory policies are working well then why is economic growth at zero and unemployment going through the roof?
It won't affect the likes of super-rich Benefits cheat Emma Harrison though, will it?
It won't affect the likes of super-rich Benefits cheat Emma Harrison though, will it?
Outraged Citizen
says...
2:57pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:http://www.socialist
It started when Thatcher turned the unions round, bent em over and shafted them then subsequently us. They may have been too powerful at one point but whose side were they on, ours or the govt?
The way out of the 'european' problem is to re-establish the strength of the unions Europe wide but do away with the european union altogether.
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Outraged Citizen
says...
3:07pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking. That situation has been made worse by Tory policies. The Tory spending cuts are unnecessary, highly vindictive, and downright negligent. They are using the recession has an excuse to dismantle the State because they are ideologically driven to do so at any cost. The Tories are ruining Britain.
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again.
BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option.
In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st centure Britain it doesn't.
Thee Voice of Reason
says...
3:15pm Thu 16 Feb 12
I see outraged citizen got up at about 1pm this afternoon.
BD16
says...
3:17pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:"It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking."
BD16 wrote:It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking. That situation has been made worse by Tory policies. The Tory spending cuts are unnecessary, highly vindictive, and downright negligent. They are using the recession has an excuse to dismantle the State because they are ideologically driven to do so at any cost. The Tories are ruining Britain.Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again. I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option. In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st centure Britain it doesn't.BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
Read my posts Roly. I understand it was the banks but the man who could have regulated them, Brown, didn't. The banks and overspending caused this. Look around Europe right now. Which countries are doing better than the others? Is it the ones who have balanced there books or those that went into a bank induced recession with loads of debts?
Irrespective of who won the last election we all new that cuts were going to be made to balance the books. Even Balls and co have come out and admitted that the last govenrment overspent.
Outraged Citizen
says...
3:23pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:So the answer is to hand out MILLIONS of £££s to private companies (and their shareholders) and already wealthy individuals in return for zilch, is it?
Outraged Citizen wrote:"It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking."
BD16 wrote:It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking. That situation has been made worse by Tory policies. The Tory spending cuts are unnecessary, highly vindictive, and downright negligent. They are using the recession has an excuse to dismantle the State because they are ideologically driven to do so at any cost. The Tories are ruining Britain.Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again. I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option. In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st centure Britain it doesn't.BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
Read my posts Roly. I understand it was the banks but the man who could have regulated them, Brown, didn't. The banks and overspending caused this. Look around Europe right now. Which countries are doing better than the others? Is it the ones who have balanced there books or those that went into a bank induced recession with loads of debts?
Irrespective of who won the last election we all new that cuts were going to be made to balance the books. Even Balls and co have come out and admitted that the last govenrment overspent.
Regardless of public spending, the economy was sunk by greedy Capitalists, something which no one can deny.
Outraged Citizen
says...
3:25pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:Actually I was up at 10.40 am today. Not that it has anything to do with you.
I see outraged citizen got up at about 1pm this afternoon.
Thee Voice of Reason
says...
3:26pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:I'm funding your dole money so you answer to me!
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: I see outraged citizen got up at about 1pm this afternoon.Actually I was up at 10.40 am today. Not that it has anything to do with you.
Outraged Citizen
says...
3:29pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:It's my money to begin with so up yours.
Outraged Citizen wrote:I'm funding your dole money so you answer to me!
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: I see outraged citizen got up at about 1pm this afternoon.Actually I was up at 10.40 am today. Not that it has anything to do with you.
Outraged Citizen
says...
3:31pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:Did you ask super-rich parasite Emma Harrison what time she got up today? After all, she is currently enjoying £8.6 Million of YOUR money!
Outraged Citizen wrote:I'm funding your dole money so you answer to me!
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: I see outraged citizen got up at about 1pm this afternoon.Actually I was up at 10.40 am today. Not that it has anything to do with you.
Outraged Citizen
says...
3:33pm Thu 16 Feb 12
http://johnnyvoid.wo
rdpress.com/2012/02/
10/emma-harrison-the
-uks-biggest-benefit
-cheat/
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2099062/Fury-familie
s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE
-YEAR-bulk-comes-tax
payer.html
rdpress.com/2012/02/
10/emma-harrison-the
-uks-biggest-benefit
-cheat/
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2099062/Fury-familie
s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE
-YEAR-bulk-comes-tax
payer.html
Outraged Citizen
says...
3:34pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Anyway, it's time for my siesta...yawn
BD16
says...
3:45pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:Who said it was the answer roly?
BD16 wrote:So the answer is to hand out MILLIONS of £££s to private companies (and their shareholders) and already wealthy individuals in return for zilch, is it? Regardless of public spending, the economy was sunk by greedy Capitalists, something which no one can deny.Outraged Citizen wrote:"It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking." Read my posts Roly. I understand it was the banks but the man who could have regulated them, Brown, didn't. The banks and overspending caused this. Look around Europe right now. Which countries are doing better than the others? Is it the ones who have balanced there books or those that went into a bank induced recession with loads of debts? Irrespective of who won the last election we all new that cuts were going to be made to balance the books. Even Balls and co have come out and admitted that the last govenrment overspent.BD16 wrote:It is not "past overspending" that has caused today's problems. It was the American mortage market and unregulated banking. That situation has been made worse by Tory policies. The Tory spending cuts are unnecessary, highly vindictive, and downright negligent. They are using the recession has an excuse to dismantle the State because they are ideologically driven to do so at any cost. The Tories are ruining Britain.Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly. The past overspending is what has caused todays problems, don't you understand the link between the two? If you don't lay off the grass for a couple of days and then try thinking about it again. I said earlier that I have a lot of sympathy with those who are claiming JSA but simply carrying on spending money we don't have isn't an option. In the socialist republic of utopia I understand money just goes on trees but in 21st centure Britain it doesn't.BD16 wrote:Tell that to the 20,000 people in Bradford currently claiming JSA. If you want to stick your head in the sand, dwell in the past, and come up with pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse as an apologist for this shambles of a government then so be it. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so blinkered and prejudiced that they cannot see the plain truth that is before them.Outraged Citizen wrote:That's convenient! Two clowns who spent us into this situation are "past history" And before you go off on another predictable, boring, rant about banks just remember that the economies with the lowest levels of debt in 2008 are the ones who are riding this one out the best. The others are called Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal. Also remember that the one person who had the chance to reform the banks and the FSA was one Mr G Brown. Past history-present problemBD16 wrote:Blair and Brown are past history. Focus on the current problem; the Tories. And I haven't worn the suit because I haven't had any interviews, despite fulfilling my job-seeker's obligations and applying for literally hundreds of jobs (I have proof). And it's not a case of "if" they are giving away Millions ££s, THEY BLOOODY WELL ARE!Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly: You told me the other day you had a suit bought for you 10 years ago by the dole office and have worn it twice. You obviously don't go to many job interviews even when the economy was booming. No, if millions were being given away I wouldn't be happy. What about the wasted billions of Blair and Brown I mentioned. Have you forgotten them or were they too inconvenient to mention?BD16 wrote:So you are quite happy that this shambolic Tory-led coalition are giving away MILLIONS of taxpayers money to their rich chums whilst simultaneously undermining both the jobs market and workers' rights? and you don't mind that so long as its not Labour doing it? *shakes head in disbelief* WAKE UP YOU'VE BEEN HAD.Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
The economy isn't sunk yet but it's been badly damaged by a combination of greedy capitalists, who should have been better regulated and a poor economic strategy set by the government of the day.
Patrick Bateman
says...
6:20pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Just a point of clarification:
I thought 'Outraged Citizen' is/was formerly 'Herbal Nation/Landless Peasant' et al yet he is constantly referred to here as 'Roly' (rollandsmoke). Am I mistaken?
I thought 'Outraged Citizen' is/was formerly 'Herbal Nation/Landless Peasant' et al yet he is constantly referred to here as 'Roly' (rollandsmoke). Am I mistaken?
BD16
says...
7:41pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Patrick Bateman wrote:One and the same Patrick. Different names same drivel.
Just a point of clarification:
I thought 'Outraged Citizen' is/was formerly 'Herbal Nation/Landless Peasant' et al yet he is constantly referred to here as 'Roly' (rollandsmoke). Am I mistaken?
Outraged Citizen
says...
9:02pm Thu 16 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:Same old Tory, same old story...
Patrick Bateman wrote:One and the same Patrick. Different names same drivel.
Just a point of clarification:
I thought 'Outraged Citizen' is/was formerly 'Herbal Nation/Landless Peasant' et al yet he is constantly referred to here as 'Roly' (rollandsmoke). Am I mistaken?
Outraged Citizen
says...
9:24pm Thu 16 Feb 12
ATTENTION ! ! !
THE GOVERNMENT IS PLANNING TO GET US ALL WORKING FOR NO PAY AS SLAVES TO BIG BUSINESS:
http://www.abovetops
ecret.com/forum/thre
ad809995/pg1
http://watchinga4e.b
logspot.com/2012/02/
free-labour-for-tesc
o.html
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2012/feb/16/work-fre
e-tesco-job-advert?c
ommentpage=1#start-o
f-comments
WAKE UP FOLKS
THE GOVERNMENT IS PLANNING TO GET US ALL WORKING FOR NO PAY AS SLAVES TO BIG BUSINESS:
http://www.abovetops
ecret.com/forum/thre
ad809995/pg1
http://watchinga4e.b
logspot.com/2012/02/
free-labour-for-tesc
o.html
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
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WAKE UP FOLKS
C.T.I.D
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9:32pm Thu 16 Feb 12
3,500 of the WHOLE district in a WHOLE year..... I thought it would be much more than that :/
BD16
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7:43am Fri 17 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:Roly, I'm not particularly a tory. Go back and read my posts. The only thing I have commented on is balancing the books. I do it at home and I do it at work. If we don't do it as a nation we end up like Greece and a few others. If thinking that makes me a tory then so be it.
BD16 wrote:Same old Tory, same old story...Patrick Bateman wrote: Just a point of clarification: I thought 'Outraged Citizen' is/was formerly 'Herbal Nation/Landless Peasant' et al yet he is constantly referred to here as 'Roly' (rollandsmoke). Am I mistaken?One and the same Patrick. Different names same drivel.
Andy2010
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12:44pm Fri 17 Feb 12
:)
This Roly character really makes me laugh
I have never heard so much complete and utter nonsense as he / her spouts.
He/her is a typical example of the type of society that wants everything handed to them on a plate and refuses to get off their backside and contribute like the rest instead blaming governments or whoever else they can think off.
Tell you what Roly. My sister in law is recruiting for a machine cleaner at an engineering plant in Bradford...£6.80 an hour and 30 hours a week mainly nights....had the position open for 8 weeks now on Jobcentre site....3 applicants...yes a whole 3....of them 3 1 turned it down because they "didnt fancy working nights"...you sound like you would fit into this workshy catagory
This Roly character really makes me laugh
I have never heard so much complete and utter nonsense as he / her spouts.
He/her is a typical example of the type of society that wants everything handed to them on a plate and refuses to get off their backside and contribute like the rest instead blaming governments or whoever else they can think off.
Tell you what Roly. My sister in law is recruiting for a machine cleaner at an engineering plant in Bradford...£6.80 an hour and 30 hours a week mainly nights....had the position open for 8 weeks now on Jobcentre site....3 applicants...yes a whole 3....of them 3 1 turned it down because they "didnt fancy working nights"...you sound like you would fit into this workshy catagory
H8E US
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3:51pm Fri 17 Feb 12
well well well those who are complaining about no jobs in Bradford yes i know its difficult in this current climate but get off your lazy backsides and look outside of Bradford!!!!! rather than wishing and wanting something on your doorstep - or not wanting to work weekends because youve got football with your friends - there is a job out there for everyone
MisterBD
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9:27pm Fri 17 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:you on this planet ? get real people have no money to spend - reason people have borrowed too much money and did not allow for anything altering - vat increasing , living costs etc. We will have no growth as long as nothing is done to get people spending, banks can lend all the money in the world to new and existing business but at the end there has to be a consumer buying, they are not so there is a recession fact !
“Bradford, like every other town and city in the country is suffering from the national and international recession and we have seen unemployment rise nationally as well as locally" We aren't in a recession and haven't been for a few years. It might seem a bit picky, and I have lots of sympathy with those who have been made unemployed, but people who keep moaning about a recession might be the ones to talk us into one. A bit of positive thinking goes a long way but this Green bloke seems to talk about everything as a negative.
MisterBD
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10:17pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:the dwp clowns are a f##''/g joke ! "have you considered re training?" we have 2 or 3 weeks courses availble - yes I'd like to be a doctor , now 3 weeks later I am !
Wakeywakey wrote: Years gone by one could always find a job as a "Bobbin-Ligger" !Exactly. Try telling that to the DWP minions at the Jokecentre when they repeatedly ask, "how's your job search going?", or "what have you done to find work in the past fortnight?" GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEADS: THERE IS NO INDUSTRY, THERE ARE NO JOBS AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS HERE TO STAY !!!
no industry, no jobs, no hope just greedy millionaires it will catch up with them!
MisterBD
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10:22pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:ooooh you must be wrong multi millionairs deserve what the have they have worked very very very very hard for. as for people been thrown of the sick , they are obviously poor so it does not matter
Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/
MisterBD
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10:24pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:and we can always find money for missiles and to interere in other countries
Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/
MisterBD
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10:27pm Fri 17 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!
Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
BD16
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7:52am Sat 18 Feb 12
MisterBD wrote:Two questions for you Roly.
BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!
Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
How many user names do you have?
What do you mean?
Outraged Citizen
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5:04pm Sat 18 Feb 12
MisterBD wrote:I think they've already got it covered! They won't rest until we are all dead.
BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!
Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
Outraged Citizen
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5:10pm Sat 18 Feb 12
H8E US wrote:No, there isn't a job out there for everyone. My jobsearch takes in a 15 mile radius of my postcode and there is nothing out there unless you have a skilled trade or profession. No bobbin ligers required. It is a condition of claiming JSA (dole) that you are prepared to seek or accept work up to one&half hours travel away. And I have no transport, so if the job pays Min. Wage I would be worse off than on the dole by the time I have paid twenty quid a week in bus fares. So please do us all a favour and stop talking sh1te.
well well well those who are complaining about no jobs in Bradford yes i know its difficult in this current climate but get off your lazy backsides and look outside of Bradford!!!!! rather than wishing and wanting something on your doorstep - or not wanting to work weekends because youve got football with your friends - there is a job out there for everyone
Outraged Citizen
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5:14pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Andy2010 wrote:And you sound like an utter arsehole. I have searched the DWP website database and can find no such vacancy. Post the job ref and I will apply.
:)
This Roly character really makes me laugh
I have never heard so much complete and utter nonsense as he / her spouts.
He/her is a typical example of the type of society that wants everything handed to them on a plate and refuses to get off their backside and contribute like the rest instead blaming governments or whoever else they can think off.
Tell you what Roly. My sister in law is recruiting for a machine cleaner at an engineering plant in Bradford...£6.80 an hour and 30 hours a week mainly nights....had the position open for 8 weeks now on Jobcentre site....3 applicants...yes a whole 3....of them 3 1 turned it down because they "didnt fancy working nights"...you sound like you would fit into this workshy catagory
MisterBD
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7:37pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:I completely disagree he /she does not sound like a utter arsehole - it is obvious that he/ she is one !
Andy2010 wrote: :) This Roly character really makes me laugh I have never heard so much complete and utter nonsense as he / her spouts. He/her is a typical example of the type of society that wants everything handed to them on a plate and refuses to get off their backside and contribute like the rest instead blaming governments or whoever else they can think off. Tell you what Roly. My sister in law is recruiting for a machine cleaner at an engineering plant in Bradford...£6.80 an hour and 30 hours a week mainly nights....had the position open for 8 weeks now on Jobcentre site....3 applicants...yes a whole 3....of them 3 1 turned it down because they "didnt fancy working nights"...you sound like you would fit into this workshy catagoryAnd you sound like an utter arsehole. I have searched the DWP website database and can find no such vacancy. Post the job ref and I will apply.
MisterBD
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7:43pm Sat 18 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:you are obviously a knob head and think only one person can disagree, we intefere in other countrys and find money for weapons, yet have to make people who earn 10K / year redundant then pay bankersmillinons in bonuses, despite them causing all this ! get real
MisterBD wrote:Two questions for you Roly. How many user names do you have? What do you mean?BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
MisterBD
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7:48pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:perhaps we should all search outside of this **** hole , (bradford) for a job on £6 per hour have a 3hr round trip , spend £60/week for a job on minimum wage - great idea!
H8E US wrote: well well well those who are complaining about no jobs in Bradford yes i know its difficult in this current climate but get off your lazy backsides and look outside of Bradford!!!!! rather than wishing and wanting something on your doorstep - or not wanting to work weekends because youve got football with your friends - there is a job out there for everyoneNo, there isn't a job out there for everyone. My jobsearch takes in a 15 mile radius of my postcode and there is nothing out there unless you have a skilled trade or profession. No bobbin ligers required. It is a condition of claiming JSA (dole) that you are prepared to seek or accept work up to one&half hours travel away. And I have no transport, so if the job pays Min. Wage I would be worse off than on the dole by the time I have paid twenty quid a week in bus fares. So please do us all a favour and stop talking sh1te.
Outraged Citizen
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7:45pm Sun 19 Feb 12
BD16 wrote:Roly? Has it not occurred to you dim-wits that there may be more than one dope-smoking leftie in Bradford?
MisterBD wrote:Two questions for you Roly.
BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!
Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
How many user names do you have?
What do you mean?
Outraged Citizen
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7:48pm Sun 19 Feb 12
State Benefits are Not a gift, they are a RIGHT. The State owes us all a living:
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Ladyshrew
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8:38pm Sun 19 Feb 12
There are jobs out there, I admit not a job for everyone but there are still ones out there. The issue I have is not with the people who are actively looking for work (although some may not take work that's "beneath them") At the end of the day every single person could find themselves unemployed and may not have the financial savings to be able to call it a career break! My big problem is with the permanently unemployed who can count their total working weeks on their hands. The same ones who claim every government assistance going housing allowance, tax credit etc etc, complain they don't have enough money to feed their children, but still have enough money to smoke 20 cigs a day and go out drinking, and have the cheek to say that their 3 bedroom house isn't big enough for their 5 children. It is these people that I totally despise, these people who should no longer be given the option to either get a job or do 40hrs a week volunteer work if not they should be given NOTHING!
That way the government could could better help the genuine people out there.
That way the government could could better help the genuine people out there.
Outraged Citizen
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10:54pm Sun 19 Feb 12
Ladyshrew wrote:Oh so you "despise" people who qualify to receive certain State Benefits (Housing Benefit, Tax Credits...what else?). Then presumably you will also "despise" people like Emma Harrison, the boss of A4e, who has just received £8.6 Million of YOUR money for doing absolutely nothing? What, I wonder, will Ms. Harrison spend her vast wealth on? Cigs? booze? or perhaps another mansion? or a private jet? Get your priorities right and stop aiming your hatred and criticism (jealousy?) towards the poor and socially disadvantaged. It is the ones at the top who are bleeding us dry, the multi-millionaire parasites and their rich chums in Government.
There are jobs out there, I admit not a job for everyone but there are still ones out there. The issue I have is not with the people who are actively looking for work (although some may not take work that's "beneath them") At the end of the day every single person could find themselves unemployed and may not have the financial savings to be able to call it a career break! My big problem is with the permanently unemployed who can count their total working weeks on their hands. The same ones who claim every government assistance going housing allowance, tax credit etc etc, complain they don't have enough money to feed their children, but still have enough money to smoke 20 cigs a day and go out drinking, and have the cheek to say that their 3 bedroom house isn't big enough for their 5 children. It is these people that I totally despise, these people who should no longer be given the option to either get a job or do 40hrs a week volunteer work if not they should be given NOTHING!
That way the government could could better help the genuine people out there.
Ladyshrew
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1:44pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:You have failed to read my post correctly. I have stated that I despise the people that are permanently on the dole and have had failed to contribute to society during their life. If you actually read my post you will see that I actually think that people who are genuinely on job seekers etc should actually receive more help than they already get. Also please explain why I would be Jealous of being unemployed, that in it's self is a ridiculous comment. I suggest you re read my last post, I will then be happy to accept your apology.
Ladyshrew wrote:Oh so you "despise" people who qualify to receive certain State Benefits (Housing Benefit, Tax Credits...what else?). Then presumably you will also "despise" people like Emma Harrison, the boss of A4e, who has just received £8.6 Million of YOUR money for doing absolutely nothing? What, I wonder, will Ms. Harrison spend her vast wealth on? Cigs? booze? or perhaps another mansion? or a private jet? Get your priorities right and stop aiming your hatred and criticism (jealousy?) towards the poor and socially disadvantaged. It is the ones at the top who are bleeding us dry, the multi-millionaire parasites and their rich chums in Government.
There are jobs out there, I admit not a job for everyone but there are still ones out there. The issue I have is not with the people who are actively looking for work (although some may not take work that's "beneath them") At the end of the day every single person could find themselves unemployed and may not have the financial savings to be able to call it a career break! My big problem is with the permanently unemployed who can count their total working weeks on their hands. The same ones who claim every government assistance going housing allowance, tax credit etc etc, complain they don't have enough money to feed their children, but still have enough money to smoke 20 cigs a day and go out drinking, and have the cheek to say that their 3 bedroom house isn't big enough for their 5 children. It is these people that I totally despise, these people who should no longer be given the option to either get a job or do 40hrs a week volunteer work if not they should be given NOTHING!
That way the government could could better help the genuine people out there.
Outraged Citizen
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7:41pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Ladyshrew wrote:It is inappropriate to "despise" those who, for whatever reason, have not managed to succeed in life as well as others. People can only claim those Benefits if they qualify. As for "contributing to society", how do Billionaire tax-cheats such as Lord Ashcroft contribute? And don't forget, Benefits are not a gift, they are a RIGHT! The Government/State does owe all of us a living.
Outraged Citizen wrote:You have failed to read my post correctly. I have stated that I despise the people that are permanently on the dole and have had failed to contribute to society during their life. If you actually read my post you will see that I actually think that people who are genuinely on job seekers etc should actually receive more help than they already get. Also please explain why I would be Jealous of being unemployed, that in it's self is a ridiculous comment. I suggest you re read my last post, I will then be happy to accept your apology.
Ladyshrew wrote:Oh so you "despise" people who qualify to receive certain State Benefits (Housing Benefit, Tax Credits...what else?). Then presumably you will also "despise" people like Emma Harrison, the boss of A4e, who has just received £8.6 Million of YOUR money for doing absolutely nothing? What, I wonder, will Ms. Harrison spend her vast wealth on? Cigs? booze? or perhaps another mansion? or a private jet? Get your priorities right and stop aiming your hatred and criticism (jealousy?) towards the poor and socially disadvantaged. It is the ones at the top who are bleeding us dry, the multi-millionaire parasites and their rich chums in Government.
There are jobs out there, I admit not a job for everyone but there are still ones out there. The issue I have is not with the people who are actively looking for work (although some may not take work that's "beneath them") At the end of the day every single person could find themselves unemployed and may not have the financial savings to be able to call it a career break! My big problem is with the permanently unemployed who can count their total working weeks on their hands. The same ones who claim every government assistance going housing allowance, tax credit etc etc, complain they don't have enough money to feed their children, but still have enough money to smoke 20 cigs a day and go out drinking, and have the cheek to say that their 3 bedroom house isn't big enough for their 5 children. It is these people that I totally despise, these people who should no longer be given the option to either get a job or do 40hrs a week volunteer work if not they should be given NOTHING!
That way the government could could better help the genuine people out there.
Personally, I despise those who blame the ones at the bottom of the pile.
MisterBD
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11:41pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:long term unemployed are so because they do not have the skills required, the longer they are unemployed the harder it becomes, as for jobs out there - get real!
Ladyshrew wrote:It is inappropriate to "despise" those who, for whatever reason, have not managed to succeed in life as well as others. People can only claim those Benefits if they qualify. As for "contributing to society", how do Billionaire tax-cheats such as Lord Ashcroft contribute? And don't forget, Benefits are not a gift, they are a RIGHT! The Government/State does owe all of us a living. Personally, I despise those who blame the ones at the bottom of the pile.Outraged Citizen wrote:You have failed to read my post correctly. I have stated that I despise the people that are permanently on the dole and have had failed to contribute to society during their life. If you actually read my post you will see that I actually think that people who are genuinely on job seekers etc should actually receive more help than they already get. Also please explain why I would be Jealous of being unemployed, that in it's self is a ridiculous comment. I suggest you re read my last post, I will then be happy to accept your apology.Ladyshrew wrote: There are jobs out there, I admit not a job for everyone but there are still ones out there. The issue I have is not with the people who are actively looking for work (although some may not take work that's "beneath them") At the end of the day every single person could find themselves unemployed and may not have the financial savings to be able to call it a career break! My big problem is with the permanently unemployed who can count their total working weeks on their hands. The same ones who claim every government assistance going housing allowance, tax credit etc etc, complain they don't have enough money to feed their children, but still have enough money to smoke 20 cigs a day and go out drinking, and have the cheek to say that their 3 bedroom house isn't big enough for their 5 children. It is these people that I totally despise, these people who should no longer be given the option to either get a job or do 40hrs a week volunteer work if not they should be given NOTHING! That way the government could could better help the genuine people out there.Oh so you "despise" people who qualify to receive certain State Benefits (Housing Benefit, Tax Credits...what else?). Then presumably you will also "despise" people like Emma Harrison, the boss of A4e, who has just received £8.6 Million of YOUR money for doing absolutely nothing? What, I wonder, will Ms. Harrison spend her vast wealth on? Cigs? booze? or perhaps another mansion? or a private jet? Get your priorities right and stop aiming your hatred and criticism (jealousy?) towards the poor and socially disadvantaged. It is the ones at the top who are bleeding us dry, the multi-millionaire parasites and their rich chums in Government.
william bodie
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1:48pm Tue 21 Feb 12
"benifits are a right?!" wtf, the way i see it is you go to school get an education, then get a job and start paying into the system, then, should you fall on hard times you get a little help, you do not leave school sit on your backside and let others pay your way, unless of course yo have no self worth and are an utter despicable member of this great country, this great nation was built on a "get things done" way of life. ladyshrew is right to despise workshy muppets who cant be bothered, or wont take jobs because they dont fancy it, what a joke. this is OUR country and we should all try to make it better not sit around moaning that its gone to the dogs, get off your arse and make things happen for yourself, and if you get knocked back get up and try again.
Mummys little Sunbeam
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4:47pm Tue 21 Feb 12
Can't disagree with william bodie, there are jobs out there. Not being a fanatical shopper, I have only been to one store this week, but guess what....there is a advertisement on the door inviting people to apply for jobs with them.
Second and unrelated point: Why did Bradford Council send round 3 employees in a refuse removal lorry to distribute leaflets telling when me green bag would be collected. Somebody somewhere in City Hall doesn't get it !
Second and unrelated point: Why did Bradford Council send round 3 employees in a refuse removal lorry to distribute leaflets telling when me green bag would be collected. Somebody somewhere in City Hall doesn't get it !
Outraged Citizen
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2:17pm Wed 22 Feb 12
william bodie wrote:Yes, it is indeed OUR country! Exactly the point. This country did not just become rich via the exploitation of Colonialism, but also upon the backs of the Working Class, like previous generations of my own family who worked hard all their lives doing the most dreadful jobs under often appalling conditions, in between going off to fight in wars for this country, whilst the rich got richer and stole all the land. The Industrial Revolution (i.e. the sole reason cities such as Bradford exist) is over, and that's not our fault, and so now they owe us a living.
"benifits are a right?!" wtf, the way i see it is you go to school get an education, then get a job and start paying into the system, then, should you fall on hard times you get a little help, you do not leave school sit on your backside and let others pay your way, unless of course yo have no self worth and are an utter despicable member of this great country, this great nation was built on a "get things done" way of life. ladyshrew is right to despise workshy muppets who cant be bothered, or wont take jobs because they dont fancy it, what a joke. this is OUR country and we should all try to make it better not sit around moaning that its gone to the dogs, get off your arse and make things happen for yourself, and if you get knocked back get up and try again.
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Outraged Citizen
says...
2:20pm Wed 22 Feb 12
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:You didn't say which shop is offering jobs, how many hours or what rate of pay. Is previous retail experience required? Is a CRB check required? Will it pay enough to warrant signing-off the dole? It must be great to live in such a black and white reality as you seem to do!
Can't disagree with william bodie, there are jobs out there. Not being a fanatical shopper, I have only been to one store this week, but guess what....there is a advertisement on the door inviting people to apply for jobs with them.
Second and unrelated point: Why did Bradford Council send round 3 employees in a refuse removal lorry to distribute leaflets telling when me green bag would be collected. Somebody somewhere in City Hall doesn't get it !
Patrick Bateman
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4:20pm Wed 22 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:It had to me! Other than the obvious shared interests you clearly are quite different: you both write and 'sound' different for one thing. But you haven't helped the confusion by only now correcting the assumption (by some) have you?
BD16 wrote:Roly? Has it not occurred to you dim-wits that there may be more than one dope-smoking leftie in Bradford?
MisterBD wrote:Two questions for you Roly.
BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!
Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
How many user names do you have?
What do you mean?
Outraged Citizen
says...
5:23pm Wed 22 Feb 12
Patrick Bateman wrote:I thought you were Albion! or is that the other username for Thee Voice of Tripe?
Outraged Citizen wrote:It had to me! Other than the obvious shared interests you clearly are quite different: you both write and 'sound' different for one thing. But you haven't helped the confusion by only now correcting the assumption (by some) have you?
BD16 wrote:Roly? Has it not occurred to you dim-wits that there may be more than one dope-smoking leftie in Bradford?
MisterBD wrote:Two questions for you Roly.
BD16 wrote:can anyone think of what other option we have to make rich people richer and poor people poorer, replies please to 10 Downing St- then again better not might be an idea they haven't thought of !!
Outraged Citizen wrote: Cameron is giving away MILLIONS £££s of YOUR money to private companies such as B.E.S.T. , A4e, and Ingeus, to further hassle and persecute the unemployed when there are NO jobs! People with ongoing health problems are being thrown off the sick and forced on to Jobseekers Alowance (i.e. THE DOLE) when there are NO jobs for them to do. Yet multi-millionaire parasite and boss of A4e, Emma Harrison, who lives in a vast stately home at taxpayers' expense, has personally been paid over £8 Million for doing NOTHING. http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ emma-gets-daily-mail -treatment.html http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2099062/Fury-familie s-tsar-gets-8-6m-ONE -YEAR-bulk-comes-tax payer.html http://johnnyvoid.wo rdpress.com/2012/02/ 10/emma-harrison-the -uks-biggest-benefit -cheat/Pack it in Roly, it's the same old rubbish with a different name. How many Billions did Brown and Blair give away? Illegal wars, selling our gold when the price was rock bottom, spending more than we earned even at a time of record tax receipts. The list goes on and on.
How many user names do you have?
What do you mean?
Outraged Citizen
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7:10pm Wed 22 Feb 12
A4e fraud:
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-17122796
http://www.workprogr
amme.gb.net/2009/10/
11/a4e-fraud-victim-
419.html
http://watchinga4e.b
logspot.com/
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2104076/Jobless-atte
nding-courses-Camero
ns-work-tsar-Emma-Ha
rrison-ordered-sign-
blank-timesheets.htm
l?ito=feeds-newsxml
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2103522/Suspend-work
-tsar-MPs-demand-act
ion-fraud-probe-job-
placement-scheme.htm
l?ito=feeds-newsxml
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-17122796
http://www.workprogr
amme.gb.net/2009/10/
11/a4e-fraud-victim-
419.html
http://watchinga4e.b
logspot.com/
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2104076/Jobless-atte
nding-courses-Camero
ns-work-tsar-Emma-Ha
rrison-ordered-sign-
blank-timesheets.htm
l?ito=feeds-newsxml
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2103522/Suspend-work
-tsar-MPs-demand-act
ion-fraud-probe-job-
placement-scheme.htm
l?ito=feeds-newsxml
MisterBD
says...
7:44pm Wed 22 Feb 12
Outraged Citizen wrote:well said
Mummys little Sunbeam wrote: Can't disagree with william bodie, there are jobs out there. Not being a fanatical shopper, I have only been to one store this week, but guess what....there is a advertisement on the door inviting people to apply for jobs with them. Second and unrelated point: Why did Bradford Council send round 3 employees in a refuse removal lorry to distribute leaflets telling when me green bag would be collected. Somebody somewhere in City Hall doesn't get it !You didn't say which shop is offering jobs, how many hours or what rate of pay. Is previous retail experience required? Is a CRB check required? Will it pay enough to warrant signing-off the dole? It must be great to live in such a black and white reality as you seem to do!
RollandSmoke
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7:49pm Wed 22 Feb 12
Well that was an amusing read. Just to make things clear, I have only ever posted, and will only ever post as RollandSmoke, so if it hasn't got my name at the top it ain't me. As regards the unemployment, it is being used as a tool to devide the nation in much the same way as immigration was, to deflect peoples anger away from the decision makers in government who have created the problem. Judging by the comments, this stratergy is working very well for them.
Outraged Citizen
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11:36pm Wed 22 Feb 12
T&A, WHY HAS THIS STORY BEEN REMOVED FROM THE LIST OF 'MOST COMMENTED' ????
PLEASE EXPLAIN, I'M ALL EARS....
PLEASE EXPLAIN, I'M ALL EARS....
Outraged Citizen
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4:21pm Thu 23 Feb 12
RollandSmoke wrote:Yes, it works well because most people are very selfish, stupid and short-sighted, as is obvious from the majority of comments.
Well that was an amusing read. Just to make things clear, I have only ever posted, and will only ever post as RollandSmoke, so if it hasn't got my name at the top it ain't me. As regards the unemployment, it is being used as a tool to devide the nation in much the same way as immigration was, to deflect peoples anger away from the decision makers in government who have created the problem. Judging by the comments, this stratergy is working very well for them.
Outraged Citizen
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12:22am Fri 24 Feb 12
These aren't real apprenticeships, it's all a scam, providing people with 6 months basic level of on-the-job training for a very low wage. How much training do you need to be a bin-man?:
APPRENTICE REFUSE COLLECTOR
Vacancy from Jobcentre Plus
Job No:
BDC/154928
SOC Code:
9232
Wage
£100.00 PER WEEK
Hours
36 HRS PER WEEK,3/5 DAYS OVER 7 , 6:15AM - FINISH
Location
BRADFORD & KEIGHLEY BD1
Duration
Temporary
Date posted
13 February 2012
Closing date
15 March 2012
Pension details
No details held
Description
This is an Apprenticeship. We are a dynamic Darlington based company and are seeking reliable, hard working recruits to work on a new pioneering local initiative that will provide valuable work experience and recognised qualifications across a range of different community areas within Bradford and Keighley employer has given an assurance the apprenticeship is government funded. Funding is available for applicants aged 17 to 24 but open all ages. As part of your apprenticeship, you will gain experience in different cleaning techniques and essential skills including customer service and care, team working, health and safety qualification and specialist cleaning techniques. Upon completion of your apprenticeship you will gain a Level 2 Certificate in Cleaning and Support Services. Temporary for 6 months.
APPRENTICE REFUSE COLLECTOR
Vacancy from Jobcentre Plus
Job No:
BDC/154928
SOC Code:
9232
Wage
£100.00 PER WEEK
Hours
36 HRS PER WEEK,3/5 DAYS OVER 7 , 6:15AM - FINISH
Location
BRADFORD & KEIGHLEY BD1
Duration
Temporary
Date posted
13 February 2012
Closing date
15 March 2012
Pension details
No details held
Description
This is an Apprenticeship. We are a dynamic Darlington based company and are seeking reliable, hard working recruits to work on a new pioneering local initiative that will provide valuable work experience and recognised qualifications across a range of different community areas within Bradford and Keighley employer has given an assurance the apprenticeship is government funded. Funding is available for applicants aged 17 to 24 but open all ages. As part of your apprenticeship, you will gain experience in different cleaning techniques and essential skills including customer service and care, team working, health and safety qualification and specialist cleaning techniques. Upon completion of your apprenticeship you will gain a Level 2 Certificate in Cleaning and Support Services. Temporary for 6 months.
Thee Voice of Reason says...
7:50am Thu 16 Feb 12