‘Jeweller may be next to quit Bradford city centre' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Unfortunately it seems the only jewellery places that are making money are the ar$e-end cheap pawn ones around the top end around the Oastler centre, the ones frequented by gypsies and the scallys.

The city is really in dire straits when so many long-time independent and historic traders are calling time.

Don't worry though, the city park will save everything.

With the Tories making everyone poorer, unnecessary luxuries such as jewelery are bound to suffer. You can't eat gold!

Not enough class customers to support class shops.

One of the main reasons these jewelery shops in the centre are going out of business is because 20% of Bradfords population buy from shops in their own community.

“Councillors claim that parking charges are not the issue in damaging city centre shopping, but you’ve only got to look at places where there is free parking, such as Forster Square, to see that it does draw people in."

Don't bother talking common sense Mr Frankel. Bradford council doesn't like that.

Asian run shops seem to abound selling gold jewellery to Asian people probably they buy and sell to their own culture thus adding to the lack of unity in Bradford.

It looks like we’re seeing shop closures if anything accelerate on previous years, the City Park so far has definitely not resulted in an increase in trade, unless there’s new events it has little hope of stopping the year on year decline in footfall. People will not pay to park just to see a water feature.
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Having laughed and more often cried at one failure to the next whilst regeneration was under the control of Adrian Naylor I never imagined his failure would be surpassed.
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It would be nice to hear a plan for turning around this problem from the council rather than hearing them make excuses. Worse still is when other cities try to be brought into the argument, I’ve noticed councillors in other cities have never chosen to cite Bradford’s failure as an excuse for theirs.
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What’s plan B now the City Park is finished?

Would someone do us all a favour and put a bullet through the diseased heart that is Bradford city centre.

After a recent thoroughly depressing trawl through this place is is clear that it in its death throes. The only shops tha seem to be flourishing are those pay day loan places or what seems to be an increasing number of betting shops, which are generally frequented by the sort of clientele it's best to avoid.

A quick walk down to to new pool, revealed quite possibly the greatest white elephant seen in many a year. Correct me if I'm wrong here dear readers, but wasn't this pool meant to somehow kick start this city centre back into life?

Strikes me that follies like this are generally only built as the finishing touches to curt centres, or the cheery on the cake if you prefer.

And as for the so called 'wrapping' of the odeon, well words fail me. The imbecilic council have allowed a great building to literally fall to bits despite calls from all and sundry to use it as an entertainment complex for bands etc.

Times are hard, we all know that, but successive councils made up of all political persuasions have over the years, utterly destroyed a once great city, and managed to turn large parts of it into third world townships.

Is it any wonder that yet another business is on the brink of calling it a day and cutting and running.

He's hit the nail on the head

"The state of Bradford city centre at the moment reminds me of an old person who has a lot of history but not much future."

thatsnotmyname wrote:
One of the main reasons these jewelery shops in the centre are going out of business is because 20% of Bradfords population buy from shops in their own community.

You means like this

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/9530714.Bradford_
jeweller_fined_for_s
elling_gold_without_
hallmarks/

Westfield being back on site or even a not too far away date set being back on site would certainly boost retail and shopper confidence, because right now all we have is talk which is cheap!!

Clowny wrote:
It looks like we’re seeing shop closures if anything accelerate on previous years, the City Park so far has definitely not resulted in an increase in trade, unless there’s new events it has little hope of stopping the year on year decline in footfall. People will not pay to park just to see a water feature.
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Having laughed and more often cried at one failure to the next whilst regeneration was under the control of Adrian Naylor I never imagined his failure would be surpassed.
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It would be nice to hear a plan for turning around this problem from the council rather than hearing them make excuses. Worse still is when other cities try to be brought into the argument, I’ve noticed councillors in other cities have never chosen to cite Bradford’s failure as an excuse for theirs.
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What’s plan B now the City Park is finished?

Plan B is to hide the Odeon.

Now then, suppose I'm looking for some jewellery. Its not something most people buy often, so I'll do a quick google search of Bradford jewellers'... does this shop show up on the first page? No.

He's right that the council don't promote free parking at the Oastler centre after 2 (I never knew that), but what promotion is he doing himself? (other than press articles, which if anything only show that the city centre is struggling and that no one should bother visiting.)

Forster Square has free parking, yay, but where is his jewellery competition there? Argos? Forster Square is a horrible soulless place to walk around.

yorkshiredude wrote:
Now then, suppose I'm looking for some jewellery. Its not something most people buy often, so I'll do a quick google search of Bradford jewellers'... does this shop show up on the first page? No.

He's right that the council don't promote free parking at the Oastler centre after 2 (I never knew that), but what promotion is he doing himself? (other than press articles, which if anything only show that the city centre is struggling and that no one should bother visiting.)

Forster Square has free parking, yay, but where is his jewellery competition there? Argos? Forster Square is a horrible soulless place to walk around.

Afternoon councillor green, bought any more parking meters recently?

Im sure the park was conceived at a time before Westfield was put on ice, so suggesting that the Council's priority was to put the park before shopping is clearly wrong.
interestingly there was a piece on Radio Leeds about the shocking state of shopping in Halifax. People there were clamouring for even a Primark. So we are not alone.
The Westfield delay and Leeds' success are the cause of Bradford's downfall. Nothing will improve dramatically until Westfield restart.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

yorkshiredude wrote:
Now then, suppose I'm looking for some jewellery. Its not something most people buy often, so I'll do a quick google search of Bradford jewellers'... does this shop show up on the first page? No.

He's right that the council don't promote free parking at the Oastler centre after 2 (I never knew that), but what promotion is he doing himself? (other than press articles, which if anything only show that the city centre is struggling and that no one should bother visiting.)

Forster Square has free parking, yay, but where is his jewellery competition there? Argos? Forster Square is a horrible soulless place to walk around.

Afternoon councillor green, bought any more parking meters recently?

Do not encourage the Council to touch the Retail Park, the stores must be doing well hard to find a parking space.
One would think that from the station to PCWorld/Staples that this is the center of Bradford.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

yorkshiredude wrote: Now then, suppose I'm looking for some jewellery. Its not something most people buy often, so I'll do a quick google search of Bradford jewellers'... does this shop show up on the first page? No. He's right that the council don't promote free parking at the Oastler centre after 2 (I never knew that), but what promotion is he doing himself? (other than press articles, which if anything only show that the city centre is struggling and that no one should bother visiting.) Forster Square has free parking, yay, but where is his jewellery competition there? Argos? Forster Square is a horrible soulless place to walk around.

Afternoon councillor green, bought any more parking meters recently?

Yes and I bought them before the decision had been made by the council's executive for my own nefarious reasons. I also bought them from an out of town retailer, because the city centre is lacking in a good parking meter retailer (ironically I parked for free!).

I don't dispute that the parking charges and other things in the hands of the council and other authorities are not helping the centre, but 100% of the blame seems to be levelled at the council - but what are the retailers doing themselves? a) to respond to competition in other towns / cities / out of town / online and b) to respond to all these things the council are doing.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

yorkshiredude wrote: Now then, suppose I'm looking for some jewellery. Its not something most people buy often, so I'll do a quick google search of Bradford jewellers'... does this shop show up on the first page? No. He's right that the council don't promote free parking at the Oastler centre after 2 (I never knew that), but what promotion is he doing himself? (other than press articles, which if anything only show that the city centre is struggling and that no one should bother visiting.) Forster Square has free parking, yay, but where is his jewellery competition there? Argos? Forster Square is a horrible soulless place to walk around.

Afternoon councillor green, bought any more parking meters recently?

Yes and I bought them before the decision had been made by the council's executive for my own nefarious reasons. I also bought them from an out of town retailer, because the city centre is lacking in a good parking meter retailer (ironically I parked for free!).

I don't dispute that the parking charges and other things in the hands of the council and other authorities are not helping the centre, but 100% of the blame seems to be levelled at the council - but what are the retailers doing themselves? a) to respond to competition in other towns / cities / out of town / online and b) to respond to all these things the council are doing.

The other week I walked across town to buy tickets from the Alhambra. Having been totally negative about the City Park from the outset, I stopped to look at the pool and told myself to be objective and try to see it as a visitor new to the city may see it. I'm sorry to say that the answer to myself was....'it's better than nothing.' In other words pleasant enough to pass by but by no means enough to bring anyone into the city to look at it. Even taking into account that it is winter there seems little scope for impressive green and floral landscaping and the backdrop of the half-demolished police station is ugly and ludicrous. I accept that good events will have the potential to draw in visitors, particularly at night with the light show, but honestly, on a day to day basis, people are not going to pay out good money on travel and parking to sit there (even if there was enough seating). I know the Council's idea is that they will spread around the city centre spending their money but, as we have all said many times before, the scope for that is practically non-existent. The other thought I had that day was 'what a massively poor return for the money spent'. When I think of Leeds Council building a money-making arena with their share of the Leeds/Bradford airport money I could cry tears of anger.

@yorkshiredude, it’d be difficult for any business to get a guaranteed first page on Google the ways and means are usually spamming and cross linking, I’m not convinced companies charging for search engine services really make much of a difference. These days every shop should aim to have a website, it’s not expensive to set-up and host a website, but for local shops websites rarely bring in a proper income. I know Table Décor was noted as having some success however.
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Marketing a business even having adverts on the Yell.com, newspapers and radio is expensive, with footfall and thus profit being so low, I sincerely believe many of the remaining independent retailers genuinely would struggle to afford the cost. The T & A had a scheme to promote local retailers and provide discounts, more support like that would certainly be a good idea.
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Generally trying to find up to date information on Bradford centre is difficult, even the council’s own websites don’t emphasise the city centre enough, where they do the information is woefully out of date, apparently The Wharf are still trading on Kirkgate:
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http://www.bradford.
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le/shopping

As an eminent Economist said 'The fish rots from the head', this council are out of touch. Their response to the car parking meters debacle and the despair voiced by the Chamber of Commerce was of a group of people who could not grasp the scale of the problem. Greenwood maybe an aggressive leader that intimidates his council and its officers, he may be old fashioned in his approach to local politics but he doesn't seem to be on his own. Council officers are also caught up in these games and practice them with relish. Once all this lot are so in the mire they really cannot see a way out, it becomes the norm. If any politician at council or MP level knocks on my door looking for support I am going to ask them 'what have you personally done to benefit Bradford?' As i have an accute 'bull sh*t detector I will leave them in no doubt what i think of their answer, I suggest you all do the same so that Westminster eventually asks 'whats going on within Bradford to warrant such a low turn out?' In my view Bradford as a city just gets on with it in spite of Bradford council!

basil fawlty wrote:
Im sure the park was conceived at a time before Westfield was put on ice, so suggesting that the Council's priority was to put the park before shopping is clearly wrong. interestingly there was a piece on Radio Leeds about the shocking state of shopping in Halifax. People there were clamouring for even a Primark. So we are not alone. The Westfield delay and Leeds' success are the cause of Bradford's downfall. Nothing will improve dramatically until Westfield restart.

The park was approved in October 2007 but was delayed due to the lottery turning it down for grant money.
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It was actually started in 2009 when the council forked out for it.
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The site at Westfield was demolished in 2006. Not a brick had been laid in 3 years when the park was started so I would say you can suggest the Park was put before shopping because the Westfield center was clearly mothballed at this stage.
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Wakefield had the same problems and instead of building a park they help the developers to ensure the shopping center was finished. They now have a new shopping center, but no park.
We have no shopping center but a park. I wonder which will end up being more successful in the coming years.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

basil fawlty wrote:
Im sure the park was conceived at a time before Westfield was put on ice, so suggesting that the Council's priority was to put the park before shopping is clearly wrong. interestingly there was a piece on Radio Leeds about the shocking state of shopping in Halifax. People there were clamouring for even a Primark. So we are not alone. The Westfield delay and Leeds' success are the cause of Bradford's downfall. Nothing will improve dramatically until Westfield restart.

The park was approved in October 2007 but was delayed due to the lottery turning it down for grant money.
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It was actually started in 2009 when the council forked out for it.
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The site at Westfield was demolished in 2006. Not a brick had been laid in 3 years when the park was started so I would say you can suggest the Park was put before shopping because the Westfield center was clearly mothballed at this stage.
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Wakefield had the same problems and instead of building a park they help the developers to ensure the shopping center was finished. They now have a new shopping center, but no park.
We have no shopping center but a park. I wonder which will end up being more successful in the coming years.

The Park will. Westfield will never be built. The situation in Wakefield was very different to the one we have here. For one it was half way through development, and two... it was in Wakefield.

Really sorry to hear this news. I have been using Jeff Frankel's shops for years as they offer a truly exceptional service (in fact it's one of the few remaining reasons why I visit Bradford these days - albeit infrequently).

It can't help matters that there are other jewellers in the city selling dodgy, non-hallmarked gold to either unscrupulous or unwitting customers either (and I wonder how common this practice is..?)

It's also worth noting that Mr Frankel was until quite recently head of the local small business consortium and has been very active in trying to promote and improve the retail offer of the city (most recently by highlighting the problem of drunks and beggars hanging around and putting off 'normal' customers).

If such a long-standing stalwart of the Bradford retail scene is talking of 'shutting up shop' then the writing really is on the wall...

Are you listening Bradford Council?

Er, hello.....?

Patrick Bateman wrote:
It's also worth noting that Mr Frankel was until quite recently head of the local small business consortium and has been very active in trying to promote and improve the retail offer of the city (most recently by highlighting the problem of drunks and beggars hanging around and putting off 'normal' customers). If such a long-standing stalwart of the Bradford retail scene is talking of 'shutting up shop' then the writing really is on the wall... Are you listening Bradford Council? Er, hello.....?

Could someone tell me why the retailers couldn't band together in Bradford and actually set up a website to promote themselves.

It is not the responsibility of Bradford Council to act as Marketing Manager to the retailers of Bradford - It's for the retailers to market themselves.

As for parking, with respects the amount of on street parking is so limited in Bradford it's easier to go and park your car in Kirkgate like most people do. So all this about charging for on street parking is a red herring.

After all you can park in Forster Square retail park buy something from a shop there and use the free city bus to get you onto John Street and into the City shopping areas.

dazbot wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

basil fawlty wrote: Im sure the park was conceived at a time before Westfield was put on ice, so suggesting that the Council's priority was to put the park before shopping is clearly wrong. interestingly there was a piece on Radio Leeds about the shocking state of shopping in Halifax. People there were clamouring for even a Primark. So we are not alone. The Westfield delay and Leeds' success are the cause of Bradford's downfall. Nothing will improve dramatically until Westfield restart.

The park was approved in October 2007 but was delayed due to the lottery turning it down for grant money. . It was actually started in 2009 when the council forked out for it. . The site at Westfield was demolished in 2006. Not a brick had been laid in 3 years when the park was started so I would say you can suggest the Park was put before shopping because the Westfield center was clearly mothballed at this stage. . Wakefield had the same problems and instead of building a park they help the developers to ensure the shopping center was finished. They now have a new shopping center, but no park. We have no shopping center but a park. I wonder which will end up being more successful in the coming years.

The Park will. Westfield will never be built. The situation in Wakefield was very different to the one we have here. For one it was half way through development, and two... it was in Wakefield.

The day Westfield sell the land which they own, is the day you can say it will never be built.

Remember Westfield is not a Bradford based business, it's an international business based in Australia and own most of the shopping Malls in the USA.

Quite clearly no developer is going to build a major shopping centre, which Westfield Bradford is, when retailers are going into administration right left and centre due to the economy.

Unemployment is not going up because the Country's economy is booming.

Time to come clean Reality001: you work for the council, right?

What Reality001 is saying is that Westfield won't be built any time soon!

Reality001 = Reno

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Reality001 = Reno

Almost certainly is. Doing the line of blaming the recession and the retailers themselves. Ignoring the fact Bradford is suffering worse than other cities in Yorkshire and has an established pattern of failure and falling profitability.

Once the sun starts to shine i think
there will be a massive increase in sales
of strong cider from the tesco express
on sunbridge road !!!

I like many others feel sick of the way the city centre is and looks, closed, drunks and beggers why would people want to go into BRADFORD neither mind the expence of getting there. Is it not time we stoped blameing Bradford Council and the government and started looking at our own beleaves. Why r more and more people on the DOLE get them of their backsides and set up a business in the community getting them to work for there benefit or stop it once and for all.

Some great comments here! I see Halifax mentioned,there are plenty more shops I'd say there, than there are in Bradford. No,not all of them are the larger chains, but I love independent shops, Norwich market comes to mind for example, as this gents jewelers; but at least Halifax looks nice! The pool does look good and fair play for them finishing it to actually look nice and not leaving a half built hole like most places, but it's totally pointless and should have been a finishing touch, which tells us all there is nothing to finish, no more shops, no more plans, no more future, simple and sad. Perhaps the retailers could sue the council, cos they're not spending the money on creating businesses and jobs and supporting the retail in Bradford with their cash, so perhaps shops could at lest get some compensation to set back up elsewhere, or keep on going at least for longer, using a case of neglect?!

RedCyanNat wrote:
Some great comments here! I see Halifax mentioned,there are plenty more shops I'd say there, than there are in Bradford. No,not all of them are the larger chains, but I love independent shops, Norwich market comes to mind for example, as this gents jewelers; but at least Halifax looks nice! The pool does look good and fair play for them finishing it to actually look nice and not leaving a half built hole like most places, but it's totally pointless and should have been a finishing touch, which tells us all there is nothing to finish, no more shops, no more plans, no more future, simple and sad. Perhaps the retailers could sue the council, cos they're not spending the money on creating businesses and jobs and supporting the retail in Bradford with their cash, so perhaps shops could at lest get some compensation to set back up elsewhere, or keep on going at least for longer, using a case of neglect?!

Halifax probably does have a decent number of smaller shops but a lot of people there want the larger stores and have to shop in places like Bradford and Huddersfield to find them.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

basil fawlty wrote: Im sure the park was conceived at a time before Westfield was put on ice, so suggesting that the Council's priority was to put the park before shopping is clearly wrong. interestingly there was a piece on Radio Leeds about the shocking state of shopping in Halifax. People there were clamouring for even a Primark. So we are not alone. The Westfield delay and Leeds' success are the cause of Bradford's downfall. Nothing will improve dramatically until Westfield restart.

The park was approved in October 2007 but was delayed due to the lottery turning it down for grant money. . It was actually started in 2009 when the council forked out for it. . The site at Westfield was demolished in 2006. Not a brick had been laid in 3 years when the park was started so I would say you can suggest the Park was put before shopping because the Westfield center was clearly mothballed at this stage. . Wakefield had the same problems and instead of building a park they help the developers to ensure the shopping center was finished. They now have a new shopping center, but no park. We have no shopping center but a park. I wonder which will end up being more successful in the coming years.

The fact that Wakefield has got its new shopping center whilst Bradford is still waiting is probably only down to the fact that it was a far more advanced scheme and did not require as much money to complete.
Incidentaly, I found the Wakefield Trinity Centre a big disappointment. Many of the new shops are located on new pedestrian streets with no roof whatsoever. Others are under an overall roof that sits higher above the shops but has a gap so that wind can drive rain onto the concourse. Clearly the original design was altered as a cost cutting exrcise. Lets hope we dont get anything similar eventually with the Broadway development.

basil fawlty said:

'Lets hope we dont get anything similar eventually with the Broadway development'.

I suspect your hopes will come true: indeed we won't be getting 'anything' similar at least not for a loooooooong time. In fact, in the interests of accuracy, make that 'nothing'.

Off topic but is it my imagination or are there far fewer stories these days that are allowed comment on?

Patrick Bateman wrote:
basil fawlty said:

'Lets hope we dont get anything similar eventually with the Broadway development'.

I suspect your hopes will come true: indeed we won't be getting 'anything' similar at least not for a loooooooong time. In fact, in the interests of accuracy, make that 'nothing'.

Off topic but is it my imagination or are there far fewer stories these days that are allowed comment on?

Cut-backs at the T & A.

Joedavid wrote:
Asian run shops seem to abound selling gold jewellery to Asian people probably they buy and sell to their own culture thus adding to the lack of unity in Bradford.

No, they're just not situated in the city centre so pay cheaper rents.

ertnec wrote:
I like many others feel sick of the way the city centre is and looks, closed, drunks and beggers why would people want to go into BRADFORD neither mind the expence of getting there. Is it not time we stoped blameing Bradford Council and the government and started looking at our own beleaves. Why r more and more people on the DOLE get them of their backsides and set up a business in the community getting them to work for there benefit or stop it once and for all.

LOLOLOLOL how stupid are you?

How are 20,000 unemployed people in Bradford going to start new businesses? Who is going to fund it? Who will provide training and capital? What businesses might succeed?

More and more people are on the Dole because we are in a recession, Capitalism has failed, the Industrial Revolution is over, there is no industry and there are no jobs, plus the Tories, in their ideological drive to dismantle the State, have put thousands of Public Sector workers on the Dole too. What part of that do you not understand?

Outraged Citizen wrote:

ertnec wrote:
I like many others feel sick of the way the city centre is and looks, closed, drunks and beggers why would people want to go into BRADFORD neither mind the expence of getting there. Is it not time we stoped blameing Bradford Council and the government and started looking at our own beleaves. Why r more and more people on the DOLE get them of their backsides and set up a business in the community getting them to work for there benefit or stop it once and for all.

LOLOLOLOL how stupid are you?

How are 20,000 unemployed people in Bradford going to start new businesses? Who is going to fund it? Who will provide training and capital? What businesses might succeed?

More and more people are on the Dole because we are in a recession, Capitalism has failed, the Industrial Revolution is over, there is no industry and there are no jobs, plus the Tories, in their ideological drive to dismantle the State, have put thousands of Public Sector workers on the Dole too. What part of that do you not understand?

I can give an example of the high rates and rents in bradford as I was going to open and rent a shop at the top near darley street
Rent 19,000 per annum rates 10500 per annum for a single shop. How does anyone really expect anybody to make a living with those overheads.

Monn pool load of rubbish the failed westgate plan there all in there. The city should have small incubation zones for business to start not markets I am talking bulldozing down parts of it and providing enterprise areas it really is that bad.

Also can anyone tell me where any major employers are? all lost or in decline Redcats, Grattan, Leeds made it big by attracting big companies. These are the starting points.

Bradford for me is like somebody doing up a house with all sorts of unfinished bits all over the place the council should be ashamed of what they have done.

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Time to come clean Reality001: you work for the council, right?

No I don't work for the Council. I'm someone who has been in business for over 25 years and actually understands how business works.

Clowny wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Reality001 = Reno

Almost certainly is. Doing the line of blaming the recession and the retailers themselves. Ignoring the fact Bradford is suffering worse than other cities in Yorkshire and has an established pattern of failure and falling profitability.

I am not Reno and i'm happy for the T&A to confirm that on here if they wish.

I have been in business for over 25 years and therefore have a greater understanding of how it works than some.

One, if you really want Bradford to be better, you need to spend some money in it's shops. Going elsewhere is taking money away from the existing businesses and out of the Bradford economy. No different to the accusation that people come to this country and send money back to their country of origin.

Two, Councils are not responsible for creating businesses, leave that to business people not Council Officers.

Three, Westfield can hardly be expected to start building a major new shopping centre, until the economy is such that it can be sure that the businesses that will be in it's shopping centre have not gone into administration or bankruptcy during the building of it.

Four, Leeds like Bradford is pedestrianised where it's shops are, therefore on street parking is not an issue. People park in multi storey or large car parks.

Five, Cities that do well and win funding are those that have the backing of it's public. Until people living in Bradford agree to back Bradford that wont happen.

Avro wrote:
What Reality001 is saying is that Westfield won't be built any time soon!

Check out the facts - Major chains are closing up to 14 of their stores every month around the UK - So no major shopping centres are going to be built when even Boots, Marks & Spencer are closing stores.

To keep major supermarkets in profit, there not building large stores, they are now investing in smaller convenience stores even ASDA set up Asda Supermarkets by taking over Nettos.

Reality001 wrote:

Avro wrote:
What Reality001 is saying is that Westfield won't be built any time soon!

Check out the facts - Major chains are closing up to 14 of their stores every month around the UK - So no major shopping centres are going to be built when even Boots, Marks & Spencer are closing stores.

To keep major supermarkets in profit, there not building large stores, they are now investing in smaller convenience stores even ASDA set up Asda Supermarkets by taking over Nettos.

Yes and they (ASDA, TESCO and many more) are also profiting from exploiting the never-ending source of free labour:


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http://watchinga4e.b
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http://www.guardian.
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thatsnotmyname wrote:
One of the main reasons these jewelery shops in the centre are going out of business is because 20% of Bradfords population buy from shops in their own community.

only 20% and only jewelrey?

Albion. wrote:
Not enough class customers to support class shops.

nail on head

Outraged Citizen wrote:

Reality001 wrote:

Avro wrote: What Reality001 is saying is that Westfield won't be built any time soon!

Check out the facts - Major chains are closing up to 14 of their stores every month around the UK - So no major shopping centres are going to be built when even Boots, Marks & Spencer are closing stores. To keep major supermarkets in profit, there not building large stores, they are now investing in smaller convenience stores even ASDA set up Asda Supermarkets by taking over Nettos.

Yes and they (ASDA, TESCO and many more) are also profiting from exploiting the never-ending source of free labour: http://www.abovetops ecret.com/forum/thre ad809995/pg1 http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ free-labour-for-tesc o.html http://www.guardian. co.uk/commentisfree/ 2012/feb/16/work-fre e-tesco-job-advert?c ommentpage=1#start-o f-comments http://www.guardian. co.uk/commentisfree/ 2011/aug/23/voluntee red-work-cameron-bla ir

No the Government is exploiting people on benefit.

Your talking about the Youth Job Experience scheme where they can go on an eight week course at a business that have signed up to the scheme.

It's not compulsory, but if they go on the scheme their benefit can be stopped if they don't complete it.

Matalan and Sainsbury's have pulled out of the scheme, and after the Job Centre Plus made an error on a Tesco ad, Tesco's look set to pull out as well.

Reality001 wrote:

Outraged Citizen wrote:

Reality001 wrote:

Avro wrote: What Reality001 is saying is that Westfield won't be built any time soon!

Check out the facts - Major chains are closing up to 14 of their stores every month around the UK - So no major shopping centres are going to be built when even Boots, Marks & Spencer are closing stores. To keep major supermarkets in profit, there not building large stores, they are now investing in smaller convenience stores even ASDA set up Asda Supermarkets by taking over Nettos.

Yes and they (ASDA, TESCO and many more) are also profiting from exploiting the never-ending source of free labour: http://www.abovetops ecret.com/forum/thre ad809995/pg1 http://watchinga4e.b logspot.com/2012/02/ free-labour-for-tesc o.html http://www.guardian. co.uk/commentisfree/ 2012/feb/16/work-fre e-tesco-job-advert?c ommentpage=1#start-o f-comments http://www.guardian. co.uk/commentisfree/ 2011/aug/23/voluntee red-work-cameron-bla ir

No the Government is exploiting people on benefit.

Your talking about the Youth Job Experience scheme where they can go on an eight week course at a business that have signed up to the scheme.

It's not compulsory, but if they go on the scheme their benefit can be stopped if they don't complete it.

Matalan and Sainsbury's have pulled out of the scheme, and after the Job Centre Plus made an error on a Tesco ad, Tesco's look set to pull out as well.

There is also the "Mandatory Work Activity" for unemployed adults on the so-called 'Work Programme', and that certainly IS compulsory!

MisterBD wrote:

Albion. wrote:
Not enough class customers to support class shops.

nail on head

Totally agree.

Ladyshrew wrote:

MisterBD wrote:

Albion. wrote:
Not enough class customers to support class shops.

nail on head

Totally agree.

I don't see why we need any more shops, there are plenty as it is. I can buy whatever I want/need in Bradford, and anything more out of the ordinary can be obtained via the internet, so why do we need more shops? If anything, we need fewer shops!

i think everyone should complaining should move out of bradford