Police appeal for witnesses to sick robbery

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Detective Inspector Mark Long is appealing for witnesses Detective Inspector Mark Long is appealing for witnesses

A mugger who robbed a partially-sighted woman being led by a guide dog in Bradford city centre has been condemned by police and a charity.

The attacker escaped with the woman’s handbag, containing only a soft drink and some medication, after he struck in Sunbridge Road.

The 39-year-old woman was pushed and threatened before the robber grabbed the bag from her shoulder. Police said she was left shocked but unharmed.

Officers were yesterday examining CCTV footage of the area in a bid to trace the suspect, and have also appealed to a group of people who were nearby at the time of the attack – 2.15pm on Tuesday – to come forward.

Detective Inspector Mark Long, of Bradford South CID, said: “This was a despicable and clearly targeted act.

“This ordeal has understandably left her frightened and shocked.”

Roy Ruddick, Royal National Institute of Blind People campaigns officer for Yorkshire and the Humber, said: “If someone is specifically targeted because they’re blind or partially-sighted that is obviously appalling.

“When you lose your sight it can be extremely traumatic and often people can lose confidence so feeling safe in public places is vitally important in ensuring people with sight loss remain independent.”

The suspect was white, about 6ft, of medium build, wearing a blue top with the hood up, and blue jeans.

Det Insp Long said: “We also know there was a group of people close by at the time. I would like to hear from these people or anyone else who was in the area.”

The attack was on the day that the Telegraph & Argus reported how poppy-sellers were spat at, sworn at and harassed.

Anyone with information about the mugging should call police on the 101 non-emergency number, or Crimestoppers, in confidence, on 0800 555111.

e-mail: james.rush@telegraphandargus.co.uk

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10:26am Fri 18 Nov 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Another example of why people are deserting Bradford in their droves. Where are the police? This was committed in daylight hours.
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It just goes to show you how unsafe Bradford is when during broad daylight someone would do this to someone so vunerable.
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Contary to what the Police and the T&A would like you to beleive, it's becoming more evident, the scum rule the streets round Bradford.
Another example of why people are deserting Bradford in their droves. Where are the police? This was committed in daylight hours. . It just goes to show you how unsafe Bradford is when during broad daylight someone would do this to someone so vunerable. . Contary to what the Police and the T&A would like you to beleive, it's becoming more evident, the scum rule the streets round Bradford. Thee Voice of Reason

10:32am Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

The Xmas purse snatchers have started earlier this year then. I said at the start of the week, purse snatching was a problem on Centenary Square and already we have an example.
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With the Eastern European purse snatchers and the heroin addicts getting their methadone at Rimmington’s pharmacy, the police need to patrol Centenary Square and the surrounding streets as a matter of course.
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Monitoring the area from a woeful CCTV system, with too many camera, too poor tech and too few staff is not the answer, the police can’t respond from Nelson street in time to catch crimes in progress.
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Centenary Square, Bridge Street, Tyrrel Street, Ivegate, Sunbridge Road and Aldermanbury need a zero tolerance lock down, the criminals, drunks, beggars need to have their lives made very hard or this blind women is going to just another statistic in a long list of mugged victims.
The Xmas purse snatchers have started earlier this year then. I said at the start of the week, purse snatching was a problem on Centenary Square and already we have an example. . With the Eastern European purse snatchers and the heroin addicts getting their methadone at Rimmington’s pharmacy, the police need to patrol Centenary Square and the surrounding streets as a matter of course. . Monitoring the area from a woeful CCTV system, with too many camera, too poor tech and too few staff is not the answer, the police can’t respond from Nelson street in time to catch crimes in progress. . Centenary Square, Bridge Street, Tyrrel Street, Ivegate, Sunbridge Road and Aldermanbury need a zero tolerance lock down, the criminals, drunks, beggars need to have their lives made very hard or this blind women is going to just another statistic in a long list of mugged victims. Clowny

10:53am Fri 18 Nov 11

NCC.1701A says...

Bradford is not going to change, it's just going to keep on getting worse.
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There need to be a lot more police visible on the streets at all hours and swift action taken when a crime such as this is seen or reported. It might be a good idea to upgrade all the CCTV to much higher pixel level, my webcam has a higher pixel level than any of the CCTV camera's in Bradford.
Bradford is not going to change, it's just going to keep on getting worse. . There need to be a lot more police visible on the streets at all hours and swift action taken when a crime such as this is seen or reported. It might be a good idea to upgrade all the CCTV to much higher pixel level, my webcam has a higher pixel level than any of the CCTV camera's in Bradford. NCC.1701A

11:00am Fri 18 Nov 11

Albion. says...

How about a plant? Someone pretending to be blind with a tazer set into the white stick! The wrongdoer would be instantly disabled and the pretend guide dog could be set on him/her and tear out their throat!..........Sor
ry just fantasizing! The real wrongdoer will need tender care and understanding and probably a few trips to the seaside provided it's warm enough.
How about a plant? Someone pretending to be blind with a tazer set into the white stick! The wrongdoer would be instantly disabled and the pretend guide dog could be set on him/her and tear out their throat!..........Sor ry just fantasizing! The real wrongdoer will need tender care and understanding and probably a few trips to the seaside provided it's warm enough. Albion.

11:01am Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

NCC.1701A wrote:
Bradford is not going to change, it's just going to keep on getting worse.
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There need to be a lot more police visible on the streets at all hours and swift action taken when a crime such as this is seen or reported. It might be a good idea to upgrade all the CCTV to much higher pixel level, my webcam has a higher pixel level than any of the CCTV camera's in Bradford.
You're right, even some consumer level CCTV these days is megapixel, has sound monitoring, guard tours and auto tracking, yet a system to protect the people of Bradford has technology a good decade out of date.
[quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: Bradford is not going to change, it's just going to keep on getting worse. . There need to be a lot more police visible on the streets at all hours and swift action taken when a crime such as this is seen or reported. It might be a good idea to upgrade all the CCTV to much higher pixel level, my webcam has a higher pixel level than any of the CCTV camera's in Bradford.[/p][/quote]You're right, even some consumer level CCTV these days is megapixel, has sound monitoring, guard tours and auto tracking, yet a system to protect the people of Bradford has technology a good decade out of date. Clowny

11:06am Fri 18 Nov 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Clowny wrote:
NCC.1701A wrote: Bradford is not going to change, it's just going to keep on getting worse. . There need to be a lot more police visible on the streets at all hours and swift action taken when a crime such as this is seen or reported. It might be a good idea to upgrade all the CCTV to much higher pixel level, my webcam has a higher pixel level than any of the CCTV camera's in Bradford.
You're right, even some consumer level CCTV these days is megapixel, has sound monitoring, guard tours and auto tracking, yet a system to protect the people of Bradford has technology a good decade out of date.
Yet we can find £4.9m to relocate some police cells, £1.5m to build a replace an existing bridge, £1.8m to do up some council buildings (but not the Library I may add) but no money is availible to upgrade CCTV.
[quote][p][bold]Clowny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: Bradford is not going to change, it's just going to keep on getting worse. . There need to be a lot more police visible on the streets at all hours and swift action taken when a crime such as this is seen or reported. It might be a good idea to upgrade all the CCTV to much higher pixel level, my webcam has a higher pixel level than any of the CCTV camera's in Bradford.[/p][/quote]You're right, even some consumer level CCTV these days is megapixel, has sound monitoring, guard tours and auto tracking, yet a system to protect the people of Bradford has technology a good decade out of date.[/p][/quote]Yet we can find £4.9m to relocate some police cells, £1.5m to build a replace an existing bridge, £1.8m to do up some council buildings (but not the Library I may add) but no money is availible to upgrade CCTV. Thee Voice of Reason

11:24am Fri 18 Nov 11

angry bradfordian says...

Don't suppose there's any chance the police are going to step up patrols in the area. Shame there isn't a police station in Centenery Sq.....
It looks like CCTV is only of any use for gathering evidence- it doesn't reduce the chances of being mugged but at least there's a chance that they'll catch him and give him 10 hours community service!
Don't suppose there's any chance the police are going to step up patrols in the area. Shame there isn't a police station in Centenery Sq..... It looks like CCTV is only of any use for gathering evidence- it doesn't reduce the chances of being mugged but at least there's a chance that they'll catch him and give him 10 hours community service! angry bradfordian

11:28am Fri 18 Nov 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
Don't suppose there's any chance the police are going to step up patrols in the area. Shame there isn't a police station in Centenery Sq..... It looks like CCTV is only of any use for gathering evidence- it doesn't reduce the chances of being mugged but at least there's a chance that they'll catch him and give him 10 hours community service!
Well in some cases the CCTV is useful for gathering evidence, but it comes as no suprise that we haven't seen any stills of the scum who were abusing the poppy sellers to help name and shame them and bring them in.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: Don't suppose there's any chance the police are going to step up patrols in the area. Shame there isn't a police station in Centenery Sq..... It looks like CCTV is only of any use for gathering evidence- it doesn't reduce the chances of being mugged but at least there's a chance that they'll catch him and give him 10 hours community service![/p][/quote]Well in some cases the CCTV is useful for gathering evidence, but it comes as no suprise that we haven't seen any stills of the scum who were abusing the poppy sellers to help name and shame them and bring them in. Thee Voice of Reason

11:42am Fri 18 Nov 11

Lancashire Bantam says...

We should fix a telescopic sight on these cctv cameras,BOOM.
We should fix a telescopic sight on these cctv cameras,BOOM. Lancashire Bantam

12:08pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

That's certainly not true of most Eastern Europeans, Polish, Czech and Ukraine etc. Myself I'm as pale as could be and from an Eastern European family. It’s likely Eastern European or a drug addict who’s seen an opportunity after collecting his methadone.
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The issue is simply the city centre isn’t as safe as it could be, moving the police station to Nelson Street was a mistake from a safety viewpoint, 700 police and civilian workers would have been going to and from work on Centenary Square if there was still a police station there, there would be as a result 700 extra sets of eyes in the surrounding area making criminal behaviour far more difficult to go unnoticed.
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A couple of PCSOs on foot and an outdated CCTV system isn’t sufficient to ensure the safety even in daytime of shoppers, elderly and vulnerable especially. Ironically the city centre is probably more safe on an evening, Monday to Friday as even the criminals don’t hang around as there’s nobody around then to harass.
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At daytime, all too often police officers are in or around the Kirkgate centre, the one place with private security and private CCTV, instead of being in the warm and sheltered Kirkgate shopping centre the police need to be on Centenary Square on foot, walking the streets.
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There is a police station at city hall now, but it’s very rarely open, it’s certainly not being used to bring a large number of foot patrols into the city centre.
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If we can’t even keep Centenary Square safe now before it’s fully open, what chance is there afterwards with a larger geographic space to monitor?
That's certainly not true of most Eastern Europeans, Polish, Czech and Ukraine etc. Myself I'm as pale as could be and from an Eastern European family. It’s likely Eastern European or a drug addict who’s seen an opportunity after collecting his methadone. . The issue is simply the city centre isn’t as safe as it could be, moving the police station to Nelson Street was a mistake from a safety viewpoint, 700 police and civilian workers would have been going to and from work on Centenary Square if there was still a police station there, there would be as a result 700 extra sets of eyes in the surrounding area making criminal behaviour far more difficult to go unnoticed. . A couple of PCSOs on foot and an outdated CCTV system isn’t sufficient to ensure the safety even in daytime of shoppers, elderly and vulnerable especially. Ironically the city centre is probably more safe on an evening, Monday to Friday as even the criminals don’t hang around as there’s nobody around then to harass. . At daytime, all too often police officers are in or around the Kirkgate centre, the one place with private security and private CCTV, instead of being in the warm and sheltered Kirkgate shopping centre the police need to be on Centenary Square on foot, walking the streets. . There is a police station at city hall now, but it’s very rarely open, it’s certainly not being used to bring a large number of foot patrols into the city centre. . If we can’t even keep Centenary Square safe now before it’s fully open, what chance is there afterwards with a larger geographic space to monitor? Clowny

12:19pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

This story was locked for comments in the morning so by evening I'm sure many more comments will have been added, it's a terrible and cowardly crime.
This story was locked for comments in the morning so by evening I'm sure many more comments will have been added, it's a terrible and cowardly crime. Clowny

12:34pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Joedavid says...

"Officers were yesterday examining CCTV footage of the area in a bid to trace the suspect,"

A bit late!
Why not watching at the time and have done something?
This CCTV opperation is a load of rubbish.
"Officers were yesterday examining CCTV footage of the area in a bid to trace the suspect," A bit late! Why not watching at the time and have done something? This CCTV opperation is a load of rubbish. Joedavid

1:19pm Fri 18 Nov 11

balthakray says...

In my many years around Bradford, the scene and people have got much much worse. These terrible incidents and the bravery and confidence shown by scumbags and gangs has been due to ONE point and ONE point alone...the ineffectiveness of the police force which has no aims and objectives of tackling crime but just passing another day at the office sorting out paperwork.
I think there needs to be a TOTAL resuffling of the police force so they are out and about and not cosily residing in their offices OR a new policing unit made up of the general public to tackle this menace in any way wotsoever without being punished by the law.
In my many years around Bradford, the scene and people have got much much worse. These terrible incidents and the bravery and confidence shown by scumbags and gangs has been due to ONE point and ONE point alone...the ineffectiveness of the police force which has no aims and objectives of tackling crime but just passing another day at the office sorting out paperwork. I think there needs to be a TOTAL resuffling of the police force so they are out and about and not cosily residing in their offices OR a new policing unit made up of the general public to tackle this menace in any way wotsoever without being punished by the law. balthakray

1:20pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Up with the partridge says...

What a hole!
What a hole! Up with the partridge

1:21pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Victor Clayton says...

The police are getting really big on this condemnation malarkey. Not sure it will prevent any crime though!

Interestingly the police said lately that after the riots they had increase the number of officers in Manningham from 4 to 40. New offers or moved from other areas?
The police are getting really big on this condemnation malarkey. Not sure it will prevent any crime though! Interestingly the police said lately that after the riots they had increase the number of officers in Manningham from 4 to 40. New offers or moved from other areas? Victor Clayton

1:37pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
The police are getting really big on this condemnation malarkey. Not sure it will prevent any crime though!

Interestingly the police said lately that after the riots they had increase the number of officers in Manningham from 4 to 40. New offers or moved from other areas?
I read that too. I suspect 36 officers have been taken from the city centre and other areas, leaving gaps elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: The police are getting really big on this condemnation malarkey. Not sure it will prevent any crime though! Interestingly the police said lately that after the riots they had increase the number of officers in Manningham from 4 to 40. New offers or moved from other areas?[/p][/quote]I read that too. I suspect 36 officers have been taken from the city centre and other areas, leaving gaps elsewhere. Clowny

1:38pm Fri 18 Nov 11

angry bradfordian says...

balthakray wrote:
In my many years around Bradford, the scene and people have got much much worse. These terrible incidents and the bravery and confidence shown by scumbags and gangs has been due to ONE point and ONE point alone...the ineffectiveness of the police force which has no aims and objectives of tackling crime but just passing another day at the office sorting out paperwork.
I think there needs to be a TOTAL resuffling of the police force so they are out and about and not cosily residing in their offices OR a new policing unit made up of the general public to tackle this menace in any way wotsoever without being punished by the law.
I'm waiting for the annual crime survey to be published.
It's the time of year when the leaders of Bradford tell us it's safer than it's ever been and the fear of crime is just a 'perception'- let's hope they were looking out of their rose tinted windows of City Hall at the time this appalling act happened.
[quote][p][bold]balthakray[/bold] wrote: In my many years around Bradford, the scene and people have got much much worse. These terrible incidents and the bravery and confidence shown by scumbags and gangs has been due to ONE point and ONE point alone...the ineffectiveness of the police force which has no aims and objectives of tackling crime but just passing another day at the office sorting out paperwork. I think there needs to be a TOTAL resuffling of the police force so they are out and about and not cosily residing in their offices OR a new policing unit made up of the general public to tackle this menace in any way wotsoever without being punished by the law.[/p][/quote]I'm waiting for the annual crime survey to be published. It's the time of year when the leaders of Bradford tell us it's safer than it's ever been and the fear of crime is just a 'perception'- let's hope they were looking out of their rose tinted windows of City Hall at the time this appalling act happened. angry bradfordian

2:51pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Patrick Bateman says...

There's nothing I can add about the policing/security issues that's not already been said.

I would like to say that I hope this poor lady gets over this terrible ordeal quickly and that I wish her well. In normal circumstances I would have added that she shouldn't let this incident put her off from visiting the centre in future but I honestly couldn't counsel that given the deteriorating reputation of the place.

What is it coming to when a blind woman can be mugged in broad daylight while a 'group of people close by' stood there and did nothing?
There's nothing I can add about the policing/security issues that's not already been said. I would like to say that I hope this poor lady gets over this terrible ordeal quickly and that I wish her well. In normal circumstances I would have added that she shouldn't let this incident put her off from visiting the centre in future but I honestly couldn't counsel that given the deteriorating reputation of the place. What is it coming to when a blind woman can be mugged in broad daylight while a 'group of people close by' stood there and did nothing? Patrick Bateman

3:21pm Fri 18 Nov 11

spudulike says...

Clowny wrote:
The Xmas purse snatchers have started earlier this year then. I said at the start of the week, purse snatching was a problem on Centenary Square and already we have an example. . With the Eastern European purse snatchers and the heroin addicts getting their methadone at Rimmington’s pharmacy, the police need to patrol Centenary Square and the surrounding streets as a matter of course. . Monitoring the area from a woeful CCTV system, with too many camera, too poor tech and too few staff is not the answer, the police can’t respond from Nelson street in time to catch crimes in progress. . Centenary Square, Bridge Street, Tyrrel Street, Ivegate, Sunbridge Road and Aldermanbury need a zero tolerance lock down, the criminals, drunks, beggars need to have their lives made very hard or this blind women is going to just another statistic in a long list of mugged victims.
you sad old racist clown,it could happen in any city and be done by any nationality,get a life you grizzled pig
[quote][p][bold]Clowny[/bold] wrote: The Xmas purse snatchers have started earlier this year then. I said at the start of the week, purse snatching was a problem on Centenary Square and already we have an example. . With the Eastern European purse snatchers and the heroin addicts getting their methadone at Rimmington’s pharmacy, the police need to patrol Centenary Square and the surrounding streets as a matter of course. . Monitoring the area from a woeful CCTV system, with too many camera, too poor tech and too few staff is not the answer, the police can’t respond from Nelson street in time to catch crimes in progress. . Centenary Square, Bridge Street, Tyrrel Street, Ivegate, Sunbridge Road and Aldermanbury need a zero tolerance lock down, the criminals, drunks, beggars need to have their lives made very hard or this blind women is going to just another statistic in a long list of mugged victims.[/p][/quote]you sad old racist clown,it could happen in any city and be done by any nationality,get a life you grizzled pig spudulike

3:36pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

@spudulike.
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There's nothing racist in that post you moron. The police have specifically warned since 2008 that Eastern European gangs are engaged in purse snatching, an 8 strong team was set-up earlier this year I believe to counter this issue:
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http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/2342987.warning_o
ver_immigrant_purses
natch_gangs/
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In the last weeks the most high profile robbery was conducted by an Eastern European gang:
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http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/local/localbrad/9
337971.VIDEO__Raider
s_snatch___10_000_ha
ul_from_Bradford_paw
nbrokers/
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Also, if you're in any doubt there are heroin addicts also in the same vicinity you can see the sharps bin at the bottom of Ivegate.
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The modus operandi of this crime is either a purse snatching gang or a drug addict seeing an opportunity.
@spudulike. . There's nothing racist in that post you moron. The police have specifically warned since 2008 that Eastern European gangs are engaged in purse snatching, an 8 strong team was set-up earlier this year I believe to counter this issue: . http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/2342987.warning_o ver_immigrant_purses natch_gangs/ . In the last weeks the most high profile robbery was conducted by an Eastern European gang: . http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/local/localbrad/9 337971.VIDEO__Raider s_snatch___10_000_ha ul_from_Bradford_paw nbrokers/ . Also, if you're in any doubt there are heroin addicts also in the same vicinity you can see the sharps bin at the bottom of Ivegate. . The modus operandi of this crime is either a purse snatching gang or a drug addict seeing an opportunity. Clowny

3:43pm Fri 18 Nov 11

TirNaNog says...

So if the culprits are 'caucasian' they must be Eastern European. I get it now. So the 2 scumbags who killed OAPs whilst off their heads on Class A drugs must have been using 'Border Agency Hand-me-downs' given to them at Dover on arrival?
Right, it's quite simple - can everyone who wasn't born here please leave! That should ensure a crime-free society for the multi-skilled,indige
nous population.
REALLY?
So if the culprits are 'caucasian' they must be Eastern European. I get it now. So the 2 scumbags who killed OAPs whilst off their heads on Class A drugs must have been using 'Border Agency Hand-me-downs' given to them at Dover on arrival? Right, it's quite simple - can everyone who wasn't born here please leave! That should ensure a crime-free society for the multi-skilled,indige nous population. REALLY? TirNaNog

3:44pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

This is the Bradford South team, formed early this year.
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http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/8809859.Special_B
radford_police_squad
_is_formed_to_tackle
_robberies/
This is the Bradford South team, formed early this year. . http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/8809859.Special_B radford_police_squad _is_formed_to_tackle _robberies/ Clowny

3:46pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

TirNaNog wrote:
So if the culprits are 'caucasian' they must be Eastern European. I get it now. So the 2 scumbags who killed OAPs whilst off their heads on Class A drugs must have been using 'Border Agency Hand-me-downs' given to them at Dover on arrival?
Right, it's quite simple - can everyone who wasn't born here please leave! That should ensure a crime-free society for the multi-skilled,indige

nous population.
REALLY?
Nope, it could be a local smack head taking an opportunity as already stated. On the other hand it could be an organised criminal purse snatching gang.
[quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: So if the culprits are 'caucasian' they must be Eastern European. I get it now. So the 2 scumbags who killed OAPs whilst off their heads on Class A drugs must have been using 'Border Agency Hand-me-downs' given to them at Dover on arrival? Right, it's quite simple - can everyone who wasn't born here please leave! That should ensure a crime-free society for the multi-skilled,indige nous population. REALLY?[/p][/quote]Nope, it could be a local smack head taking an opportunity as already stated. On the other hand it could be an organised criminal purse snatching gang. Clowny

3:49pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

Race isn't the issue, the issue is the police aren't on foot around Centenary Square to the degree they used to be, the CCTV is outdated and ineffective.
Race isn't the issue, the issue is the police aren't on foot around Centenary Square to the degree they used to be, the CCTV is outdated and ineffective. Clowny

3:58pm Fri 18 Nov 11

TirNaNog says...

Clowny wrote:
Race isn't the issue, the issue is the police aren't on foot around Centenary Square to the degree they used to be, the CCTV is outdated and ineffective.
It never starts out as the issue but the 'usual suspects' will manage to find a way to turn it into the only issue! Wait and see!
[quote][p][bold]Clowny[/bold] wrote: Race isn't the issue, the issue is the police aren't on foot around Centenary Square to the degree they used to be, the CCTV is outdated and ineffective.[/p][/quote]It never starts out as the issue but the 'usual suspects' will manage to find a way to turn it into the only issue! Wait and see! TirNaNog

4:32pm Fri 18 Nov 11

sam-tyler says...

Whatever the colour, creed, religion, inside leg measurement or shoe size of the piece of crap who did this, needs to be caught, gagged, and tied spread eagle like, to the ground in Centenary square.
Then everyone who walks past can kick him in the balls.
Leave him there for a week & he might learn a lesson, if the pain & swelling doesn't do him in first!.
Whatever the colour, creed, religion, inside leg measurement or shoe size of the piece of crap who did this, needs to be caught, gagged, and tied spread eagle like, to the ground in Centenary square. Then everyone who walks past can kick him in the balls. Leave him there for a week & he might learn a lesson, if the pain & swelling doesn't do him in first!. sam-tyler

4:42pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

@ Clowny, I understand perfectly what you are trying to say, there will always be apologists and bleeding hearts. You backed your comments with the articles your referred to.

Sam Tyler...couldn't agree more...I'm off to get my hob nails on, just on the off chance.

The reason things like this do happen and happen so frequently is because of the bleeding hearts head-in-the-sand types.
@ Clowny, I understand perfectly what you are trying to say, there will always be apologists and bleeding hearts. You backed your comments with the articles your referred to. Sam Tyler...couldn't agree more...I'm off to get my hob nails on, just on the off chance. The reason things like this do happen and happen so frequently is because of the bleeding hearts head-in-the-sand types. Prisoner Cell Block A

5:29pm Fri 18 Nov 11

scanipoos says...

Well when I go into the center im taking my baseball bat disguised as a walking stick and to hell with it . p/s where can I buy a tazer
Well when I go into the center im taking my baseball bat disguised as a walking stick and to hell with it . p/s where can I buy a tazer scanipoos

5:44pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Online or a couple of places up allerton.
Online or a couple of places up allerton. Prisoner Cell Block A

5:59pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Clowny says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Online or a couple of places up allerton.
But on a serious note you don't want to buy one as in the UK they're considered a firearm so possession alone could land you with up to a 5 year prison sentence.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Online or a couple of places up allerton.[/p][/quote]But on a serious note you don't want to buy one as in the UK they're considered a firearm so possession alone could land you with up to a 5 year prison sentence. Clowny

6:23pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Very true, sir. It was jest.
Very true, sir. It was jest. Prisoner Cell Block A

7:11pm Fri 18 Nov 11

justjustice says...

Let's face it, the only way it seems one can get real justice or make the streets safer is from vigilantism.

Just what are we supposed to do when we see kids chucking stones at houses? Confront them and they start throwing stones at your house, or smash your car, or worse pull a knife on you.
Call the police and they will arrive within 24 hours, the yobs are long gone by then.
Tell their parents, if you even know who the kids is and where they live; and when you do know their parents either do not care or are in denial that their kid would do such a thing.
Lay a finger on them yourself, and you are charged with assaulting them!

Just where is the justice in all of this nonsense?!
Let's face it, the only way it seems one can get real justice or make the streets safer is from vigilantism. Just what are we supposed to do when we see kids chucking stones at houses? Confront them and they start throwing stones at your house, or smash your car, or worse pull a knife on you. Call the police and they will arrive within 24 hours, the yobs are long gone by then. Tell their parents, if you even know who the kids is and where they live; and when you do know their parents either do not care or are in denial that their kid would do such a thing. Lay a finger on them yourself, and you are charged with assaulting them! Just where is the justice in all of this nonsense?! justjustice

7:29pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Joedavid says...

Think we need that American guy who was chief of Police or was it Mayor in New York here in Bradford to sort this lot out.
No one here now is doing a good job it seems.
Think we need that American guy who was chief of Police or was it Mayor in New York here in Bradford to sort this lot out. No one here now is doing a good job it seems. Joedavid

8:01pm Fri 18 Nov 11

RED65 says...

Albion. wrote:
How about a plant? Someone pretending to be blind with a tazer set into the white stick! The wrongdoer would be instantly disabled and the pretend guide dog could be set on him/her and tear out their throat!..........Sor

ry just fantasizing! The real wrongdoer will need tender care and understanding and probably a few trips to the seaside provided it's warm enough.
If they would only put 'the plant' vacancy up in the job center....
More worryingly is why didn't anyone who was near by come to this lady's aid they say they was a group of people near by.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: How about a plant? Someone pretending to be blind with a tazer set into the white stick! The wrongdoer would be instantly disabled and the pretend guide dog could be set on him/her and tear out their throat!..........Sor ry just fantasizing! The real wrongdoer will need tender care and understanding and probably a few trips to the seaside provided it's warm enough.[/p][/quote]If they would only put 'the plant' vacancy up in the job center.... More worryingly is why didn't anyone who was near by come to this lady's aid they say they was a group of people near by. RED65

8:30pm Fri 18 Nov 11

arshid says...

what is bfd coming to the other day read that the muslims want sharia in bfd well my friends if there was sharia scum who commit crimes like robbing blind and elderly/poppy sellers drug dealers weather they muslim/ christians/jews lose a hand or their life.iam a former bradfordian and proud to admit i grew up in lister hills road but it's going down the toilet
what is bfd coming to the other day read that the muslims want sharia in bfd well my friends if there was sharia scum who commit crimes like robbing blind and elderly/poppy sellers drug dealers weather they muslim/ christians/jews lose a hand or their life.iam a former bradfordian and proud to admit i grew up in lister hills road but it's going down the toilet arshid

10:05pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Tinybantam says...

justjustice wrote:
Let's face it, the only way it seems one can get real justice or make the streets safer is from vigilantism.

Just what are we supposed to do when we see kids chucking stones at houses? Confront them and they start throwing stones at your house, or smash your car, or worse pull a knife on you.
Call the police and they will arrive within 24 hours, the yobs are long gone by then.
Tell their parents, if you even know who the kids is and where they live; and when you do know their parents either do not care or are in denial that their kid would do such a thing.
Lay a finger on them yourself, and you are charged with assaulting them!

Just where is the justice in all of this nonsense?!
Here, Here, JustJustice. You have hit the nail on the head and it just might be appropriate for people to get together in vigilante groups to rid the city of all kinds of scum. Something like the New York Angels, I believe they were called, who set themselves up to look after travellers on the New York subsways. Within a short while all the problems that had been dogging the subway had practically ceased and travellers felt safe again. Perhaps this is what it needs, and i would happily participate.
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Let's face it, the only way it seems one can get real justice or make the streets safer is from vigilantism. Just what are we supposed to do when we see kids chucking stones at houses? Confront them and they start throwing stones at your house, or smash your car, or worse pull a knife on you. Call the police and they will arrive within 24 hours, the yobs are long gone by then. Tell their parents, if you even know who the kids is and where they live; and when you do know their parents either do not care or are in denial that their kid would do such a thing. Lay a finger on them yourself, and you are charged with assaulting them! Just where is the justice in all of this nonsense?![/p][/quote]Here, Here, JustJustice. You have hit the nail on the head and it just might be appropriate for people to get together in vigilante groups to rid the city of all kinds of scum. Something like the New York Angels, I believe they were called, who set themselves up to look after travellers on the New York subsways. Within a short while all the problems that had been dogging the subway had practically ceased and travellers felt safe again. Perhaps this is what it needs, and i would happily participate. Tinybantam

11:50pm Fri 18 Nov 11

Leighann says...

It doesn't matter what colour/creed these scum are, it's a despicable act and the police need to act. This is the last straw for Bradford and the council should be ashamed of their antiquated cctv system. Hope the lady and dog involved are ok.
It doesn't matter what colour/creed these scum are, it's a despicable act and the police need to act. This is the last straw for Bradford and the council should be ashamed of their antiquated cctv system. Hope the lady and dog involved are ok. Leighann

11:52pm Fri 18 Nov 11

arshid says...

tiny.bantam your half right they were called the guardians angels i happen to meet them when i came to new york in 1984. their leader was shot his name is curtis sliwa. your right may be you bradfordians need something like that i feel more comfotable in new york than bradford when i visit which is almost every year because i have family living there and i grew up in bd7
tiny.bantam your half right they were called the guardians angels i happen to meet them when i came to new york in 1984. their leader was shot his name is curtis sliwa. your right may be you bradfordians need something like that i feel more comfotable in new york than bradford when i visit which is almost every year because i have family living there and i grew up in bd7 arshid

6:35am Sat 19 Nov 11

Albion. says...

Tinybantam wrote:
justjustice wrote:
Let's face it, the only way it seems one can get real justice or make the streets safer is from vigilantism.

Just what are we supposed to do when we see kids chucking stones at houses? Confront them and they start throwing stones at your house, or smash your car, or worse pull a knife on you.
Call the police and they will arrive within 24 hours, the yobs are long gone by then.
Tell their parents, if you even know who the kids is and where they live; and when you do know their parents either do not care or are in denial that their kid would do such a thing.
Lay a finger on them yourself, and you are charged with assaulting them!

Just where is the justice in all of this nonsense?!
Here, Here, JustJustice. You have hit the nail on the head and it just might be appropriate for people to get together in vigilante groups to rid the city of all kinds of scum. Something like the New York Angels, I believe they were called, who set themselves up to look after travellers on the New York subsways. Within a short while all the problems that had been dogging the subway had practically ceased and travellers felt safe again. Perhaps this is what it needs, and i would happily participate.
Bradford has had them for years!
[quote][p][bold]Tinybantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Let's face it, the only way it seems one can get real justice or make the streets safer is from vigilantism. Just what are we supposed to do when we see kids chucking stones at houses? Confront them and they start throwing stones at your house, or smash your car, or worse pull a knife on you. Call the police and they will arrive within 24 hours, the yobs are long gone by then. Tell their parents, if you even know who the kids is and where they live; and when you do know their parents either do not care or are in denial that their kid would do such a thing. Lay a finger on them yourself, and you are charged with assaulting them! Just where is the justice in all of this nonsense?![/p][/quote]Here, Here, JustJustice. You have hit the nail on the head and it just might be appropriate for people to get together in vigilante groups to rid the city of all kinds of scum. Something like the New York Angels, I believe they were called, who set themselves up to look after travellers on the New York subsways. Within a short while all the problems that had been dogging the subway had practically ceased and travellers felt safe again. Perhaps this is what it needs, and i would happily participate.[/p][/quote]Bradford has had them for years! Albion.

9:28am Sat 19 Nov 11

Patrick Bateman says...

Clowny: am I dreaming or have our posts from yesterday evening been removed? For what possible reason?
Clowny: am I dreaming or have our posts from yesterday evening been removed? For what possible reason? Patrick Bateman

10:01am Sat 19 Nov 11

Clowny says...

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Clowny: am I dreaming or have our posts from yesterday evening been removed? For what possible reason?
The comments look complete to me but I didn't read this story yesterday evening.
[quote][p][bold]Patrick Bateman[/bold] wrote: Clowny: am I dreaming or have our posts from yesterday evening been removed? For what possible reason?[/p][/quote]The comments look complete to me but I didn't read this story yesterday evening. Clowny

10:54am Sat 19 Nov 11

NCC.1701A says...

I don't even know why the outdated CCTV system is still there, nowadays you can get much smaller waterproofed camera's that have incedible resolution, also because they are so small they are almost impossible to spot and no-one would know when they're being watched or recorded, Bradford Council update the CCTV system, at least that would be putting our council tax to good use, and it would be much easier for the police to identify criminals faces.
I don't even know why the outdated CCTV system is still there, nowadays you can get much smaller waterproofed camera's that have incedible resolution, also because they are so small they are almost impossible to spot and no-one would know when they're being watched or recorded, Bradford Council update the CCTV system, at least that would be putting our council tax to good use, and it would be much easier for the police to identify criminals faces. NCC.1701A

11:02am Sat 19 Nov 11

NCC.1701A says...

arshid wrote:
tiny.bantam your half right they were called the guardians angels i happen to meet them when i came to new york in 1984. their leader was shot his name is curtis sliwa. your right may be you bradfordians need something like that i feel more comfotable in new york than bradford when i visit which is almost every year because i have family living there and i grew up in bd7
If you now live in New York, your in a much better place, personally if I had moved from Bradford I wouldn't tell anyone I used to live here, I'm that ashamed of this disgusting city of Bradford now, and I've lived here 47 years.
[quote][p][bold]arshid[/bold] wrote: tiny.bantam your half right they were called the guardians angels i happen to meet them when i came to new york in 1984. their leader was shot his name is curtis sliwa. your right may be you bradfordians need something like that i feel more comfotable in new york than bradford when i visit which is almost every year because i have family living there and i grew up in bd7[/p][/quote]If you now live in New York, your in a much better place, personally if I had moved from Bradford I wouldn't tell anyone I used to live here, I'm that ashamed of this disgusting city of Bradford now, and I've lived here 47 years. NCC.1701A

11:08am Sat 19 Nov 11

NCC.1701A says...

In fact you only have to go no more than 15 - 20 miles out of Bradford, it's a whole different world.
In fact you only have to go no more than 15 - 20 miles out of Bradford, it's a whole different world. NCC.1701A

11:29am Sat 19 Nov 11

NCC.1701A says...

T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below:
.
'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.
T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below: . 'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council. NCC.1701A

12:02pm Sat 19 Nov 11

Albion. says...

NCC.1701A wrote:
In fact you only have to go no more than 15 - 20 miles out of Bradford, it's a whole different world.
Less than that.
[quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: In fact you only have to go no more than 15 - 20 miles out of Bradford, it's a whole different world.[/p][/quote]Less than that. Albion.

3:04pm Sat 19 Nov 11

Yul Brynner says...

NCC.1701A wrote:
T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below:
.
'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.
I'm Muslim and can't see anything wrong with the leaflet.
.
Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment.
.
Looks like the pc-liberal hippy brigade have gone over the top on this one.
[quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below: . 'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.[/p][/quote]I'm Muslim and can't see anything wrong with the leaflet. . Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment. . Looks like the pc-liberal hippy brigade have gone over the top on this one. Yul Brynner

4:04pm Sat 19 Nov 11

Clowny says...

NCC.1701A wrote:
I don't even know why the outdated CCTV system is still there, nowadays you can get much smaller waterproofed camera's that have incedible resolution, also because they are so small they are almost impossible to spot and no-one would know when they're being watched or recorded, Bradford Council update the CCTV system, at least that would be putting our council tax to good use, and it would be much easier for the police to identify criminals faces.
The council look to have made a CCTV mistake in my opinion, they've gone for similar units which are used in harsh environments such an embassies, which if need a shotgun proof, to some degree bomb proof camera then great, but who really thinks people are going to walk around Bradford with a shotgun routinely taking out cameras?
.
It would be better to have gone for less protected, higher spec. cameras with software that can take actions off the operators and can intelligently alert the operators of shouting, screaming and various other indicators of trouble, for example with the olympics the focuc is on intelligent software.
[quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: I don't even know why the outdated CCTV system is still there, nowadays you can get much smaller waterproofed camera's that have incedible resolution, also because they are so small they are almost impossible to spot and no-one would know when they're being watched or recorded, Bradford Council update the CCTV system, at least that would be putting our council tax to good use, and it would be much easier for the police to identify criminals faces.[/p][/quote]The council look to have made a CCTV mistake in my opinion, they've gone for similar units which are used in harsh environments such an embassies, which if need a shotgun proof, to some degree bomb proof camera then great, but who really thinks people are going to walk around Bradford with a shotgun routinely taking out cameras? . It would be better to have gone for less protected, higher spec. cameras with software that can take actions off the operators and can intelligently alert the operators of shouting, screaming and various other indicators of trouble, for example with the olympics the focuc is on intelligent software. Clowny

6:24pm Sat 19 Nov 11

Willard says...

Did her dog get a good look at the mugger?......sorry..
..I'll get me coat.
Did her dog get a good look at the mugger?......sorry.. ..I'll get me coat. Willard

8:01pm Sat 19 Nov 11

journeyman50 says...

will the last white englishman to leave bradford please turn the lights out....
will the last white englishman to leave bradford please turn the lights out.... journeyman50

9:41pm Sat 19 Nov 11

sam-tyler says...

Yul Brynner wrote:
NCC.1701A wrote:
T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below:
.
'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.
I'm Muslim and can't see anything wrong with the leaflet.
.
Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment.
.
Looks like the pc-liberal hippy brigade have gone over the top on this one.
"Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment."
.
So why don't the comuniteee do as they're asked then, instead of the exact opposite?
.
Yul Brynner???...How many name changes is that now Iona?
[quote][p][bold]Yul Brynner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below: . 'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.[/p][/quote]I'm Muslim and can't see anything wrong with the leaflet. . Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment. . Looks like the pc-liberal hippy brigade have gone over the top on this one.[/p][/quote]"Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment." . So why don't the comuniteee do as they're asked then, instead of the exact opposite? . Yul Brynner???...How many name changes is that now Iona? sam-tyler

1:37am Sun 20 Nov 11

TirNaNog says...

journeyman50 wrote:
will the last white englishman to leave bradford please turn the lights out....
He probably couldn't be ar5ed so we'll have to get a Pole in to do it.
[quote][p][bold]journeyman50[/bold] wrote: will the last white englishman to leave bradford please turn the lights out....[/p][/quote]He probably couldn't be ar5ed so we'll have to get a Pole in to do it. TirNaNog

11:48am Sun 20 Nov 11

Yul Brynner says...

sam-tyler wrote:
Yul Brynner wrote:
NCC.1701A wrote:
T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below:
.
'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.
I'm Muslim and can't see anything wrong with the leaflet.
.
Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment.
.
Looks like the pc-liberal hippy brigade have gone over the top on this one.
"Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment."
.
So why don't the comuniteee do as they're asked then, instead of the exact opposite?
.
Yul Brynner???...How many name changes is that now Iona?
I'd day it's out of willful ignorance and laziness that they don't respect the environment (via the Faith).
.
No blame but on themselves, *not* the religion.
.
Oh, and re. name changes; I've lost count..
[quote][p][bold]sam-tyler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yul Brynner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NCC.1701A[/bold] wrote: T & A, why haven't you opened a comments section for your report below: . 'Offensive' litter leaflet is scrapped by Council.[/p][/quote]I'm Muslim and can't see anything wrong with the leaflet. . Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment. . Looks like the pc-liberal hippy brigade have gone over the top on this one.[/p][/quote]"Islam *does* ask you to respect your environment." . So why don't the comuniteee do as they're asked then, instead of the exact opposite? . Yul Brynner???...How many name changes is that now Iona?[/p][/quote]I'd day it's out of willful ignorance and laziness that they don't respect the environment (via the Faith). . No blame but on themselves, *not* the religion. . Oh, and re. name changes; I've lost count.. Yul Brynner

5:21pm Sun 20 Nov 11

chris & pauline says...

sam-tyler....i will back ur suggestion all the way, even a public flogging would not go amiss
sam-tyler....i will back ur suggestion all the way, even a public flogging would not go amiss chris & pauline

10:26pm Sun 20 Nov 11

greedyb4nkers says...

spudulike wrote:
Clowny wrote: The Xmas purse snatchers have started earlier this year then. I said at the start of the week, purse snatching was a problem on Centenary Square and already we have an example. . With the Eastern European purse snatchers and the heroin addicts getting their methadone at Rimmington’s pharmacy, the police need to patrol Centenary Square and the surrounding streets as a matter of course. . Monitoring the area from a woeful CCTV system, with too many camera, too poor tech and too few staff is not the answer, the police can’t respond from Nelson street in time to catch crimes in progress. . Centenary Square, Bridge Street, Tyrrel Street, Ivegate, Sunbridge Road and Aldermanbury need a zero tolerance lock down, the criminals, drunks, beggars need to have their lives made very hard or this blind women is going to just another statistic in a long list of mugged victims.
you sad old racist clown,it could happen in any city and be done by any nationality,get a life you grizzled pig
get a grip we have imported crime to the UK and they come to holes like this, we do need a zero tolerance it is time for the Police to step up to the plate
[quote][p][bold]spudulike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clowny[/bold] wrote: The Xmas purse snatchers have started earlier this year then. I said at the start of the week, purse snatching was a problem on Centenary Square and already we have an example. . With the Eastern European purse snatchers and the heroin addicts getting their methadone at Rimmington’s pharmacy, the police need to patrol Centenary Square and the surrounding streets as a matter of course. . Monitoring the area from a woeful CCTV system, with too many camera, too poor tech and too few staff is not the answer, the police can’t respond from Nelson street in time to catch crimes in progress. . Centenary Square, Bridge Street, Tyrrel Street, Ivegate, Sunbridge Road and Aldermanbury need a zero tolerance lock down, the criminals, drunks, beggars need to have their lives made very hard or this blind women is going to just another statistic in a long list of mugged victims.[/p][/quote]you sad old racist clown,it could happen in any city and be done by any nationality,get a life you grizzled pig[/p][/quote]get a grip we have imported crime to the UK and they come to holes like this, we do need a zero tolerance it is time for the Police to step up to the plate greedyb4nkers

10:36pm Sun 20 Nov 11

Mik_e says...

One of the main downfalls of law enforcement these days, is the fact that owing to political correctness, police forces have been compelled into recruiting far too many police officers that have neither the physical presence or courage to deal with the anti-social elements of society and those that do, do not get the support from those in higher rank, courts or government.
One of the main downfalls of law enforcement these days, is the fact that owing to political correctness, police forces have been compelled into recruiting far too many police officers that have neither the physical presence or courage to deal with the anti-social elements of society and those that do, do not get the support from those in higher rank, courts or government. Mik_e

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