Chefs cook up record bhaji bid for Positive Bradford Day

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: The team of cooks The team of cooks

More details have been revealed on the line-up of the first Positive Bradford Day, which is now less than one week away.

Visitors to the event will be able to have a go at sizzling samba, energetic zumba and Asian or Chinese dancing after demonstrations from Bradford’s Kala Sangam.

Chefs from China Thai will demonstrate their skills at fruit carving, while a non-stop line-up of music and dance from local bands, folk groups, rappers and street dancers will be held on the stage in Centenary Square next Wednesday.

Developers Westfield will be offering shoppers a preview of what could in store for its Broadway shopping centre, while a food marquee and outdoor kitchen will include examples of international cuisine.

Jane Vincent, who set up Positive Bradford with businessman Saleem Kadar, said: “It’s shaping up to be a fantastic day for local people and visitors to enjoy. Everyone’s welcome to attend, whether they live in the Bradford district or not.

“We especially want Bradford’s critics and sceptics to come along so they can see despite the economic gloom there’s plenty of good of things still happening in Bradford.”

The event will be opened by the Lord Mayor of Bradford Councillor Naveeda Ikram and will stretch across the city centre.

As part of the celebrations, Colin Burt, chef trainer at Bradford College’s International Food Academy, is aiming to break the Guinness World Record for the biggest ever bhaji, in partnership with award-winning restaurant Prashad.

The current record holder is held by a community group, which weighed in at 84.26kg.

It will be carried through the streets of Bradford on a special ‘bhaji barrow’ after being cooked at the college’s Westbrook building in a cooking vessel created by engineers at the college, along with a special rack, ‘sky hooks’ and handles to lower it in and out of the oil.

Prashad’s Bobby Patel said: “It’s great to see the College has pulled in a fabulous team and we are proud to a part of this amazing feat. Positive Bradford is truly the future and we are privileged to be a part of this fantastic city.”

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8:41am Thu 22 Sep 11

Wakeywakey says...

Wonderful!
Wonderful! Wakeywakey
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8:58am Thu 22 Sep 11

Old Peculiar says...

Positive Bradford Day - on a Wednesday during school term time.........
With great attractions - food stalls in Centenary Square (we haven't forgotten the Christmas markets), Westfield showing their latest felt tip proposals, and an onion bhaji being wielded round town......... sorry, but I'm erm..... washing my hair
Positive Bradford Day - on a Wednesday during school term time......... With great attractions - food stalls in Centenary Square (we haven't forgotten the Christmas markets), Westfield showing their latest felt tip proposals, and an onion bhaji being wielded round town......... sorry, but I'm erm..... washing my hair Old Peculiar
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9:49am Thu 22 Sep 11

spinnekop says...

Hnaginuff thrung eh?

Wednesday? I will be with my pshycyatrist/therapi
st, trying to work out why pakistani youths shouted obseane sexual comments at my mother as she walked me to school on my first day and computing ankles after pakistani youths fired a shotgun through the front door of my partner years later. Or trying to work out what happened to Bradford and why my car insurance costs so much and why its not a fine to drive with no seatbelt while talking on a mobile phone if you are not all white ( allright ).

I conceed, this is not a Yorkshire city anymore. Maybe I should go back to St Beeds and do night classes?

I still limp. Thanks be to allah.
Hnaginuff thrung eh? Wednesday? I will be with my pshycyatrist/therapi st, trying to work out why pakistani youths shouted obseane sexual comments at my mother as she walked me to school on my first day and computing ankles after pakistani youths fired a shotgun through the front door of my partner years later. Or trying to work out what happened to Bradford and why my car insurance costs so much and why its not a fine to drive with no seatbelt while talking on a mobile phone if you are not all white ( allright ). I conceed, this is not a Yorkshire city anymore. Maybe I should go back to St Beeds and do night classes? I still limp. Thanks be to allah. spinnekop
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10:35am Thu 22 Sep 11

Albion. says...

"Developers Westfield will be offering shoppers a preview of what could in store for its Broadway shopping centre"
Please not the word "could".
Will it be Tezza doing the preview?
"Developers Westfield will be offering shoppers a preview of what could in store for its Broadway shopping centre" Please not the word "could". Will it be Tezza doing the preview? Albion.
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11:02am Thu 22 Sep 11

Clowny says...

I like the use of the word "could" nice to know how confident Westfield are.
I like the use of the word "could" nice to know how confident Westfield are. Clowny
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11:05am Thu 22 Sep 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.
All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:23am Thu 22 Sep 11

Clowny says...

We especially want Bradford’s critics and sceptics to come along so they can see despite the economic gloom there’s plenty of good of things still happening in Bradford.

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If they only want critics to see past the economic gloom, planning and licensing failures in Bradford they’d best cordon off Market Street, Broadway, Ivegate and possible Aldermanbury whilst this event is taking place so people don’t see the real side of Bradford.
[quote]We especially want Bradford’s critics and sceptics to come along so they can see despite the economic gloom there’s plenty of good of things still happening in Bradford.[/quote] . If they only want critics to see past the economic gloom, planning and licensing failures in Bradford they’d best cordon off Market Street, Broadway, Ivegate and possible Aldermanbury whilst this event is taking place so people don’t see the real side of Bradford. Clowny
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12:57pm Thu 22 Sep 11

stiflers mom says...

i read about positive bradford day then i read about young school children being attacked by asians in heaton,say no more !!!
i read about positive bradford day then i read about young school children being attacked by asians in heaton,say no more !!! stiflers mom
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1:49pm Thu 22 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

Really? Where did you read that?

The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them. mrs walker
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1:52pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

mrs walker wrote:
Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A.
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"Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils.
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Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage."
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May I ask which report you read?
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read? Thee Voice of Reason
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2:21pm Thu 22 Sep 11

nobody_move_or_the_muslim_gets_it says...

spinnekop wrote:
Hnaginuff thrung eh?

Wednesday? I will be with my pshycyatrist/therapi

st, trying to work out why pakistani youths shouted obseane sexual comments at my mother as she walked me to school on my first day and computing ankles after pakistani youths fired a shotgun through the front door of my partner years later. Or trying to work out what happened to Bradford and why my car insurance costs so much and why its not a fine to drive with no seatbelt while talking on a mobile phone if you are not all white ( allright ).

I conceed, this is not a Yorkshire city anymore. Maybe I should go back to St Beeds and do night classes?

I still limp. Thanks be to allah.
spinnekop. I really feel much sympathy for what happened to you and yours. I must emphasize the behaviour of the pakistani youths have absolutely nothing to do with the faith they were born into..you merely add fuel to the rabid anti islam fire. The problem lies with lazy parents who have no idea how difficult life was like for THEIR parents back in pakistan. Being called over to the UK to takeup the shortfall in man labour was literally a gift from Allah to our community and it pains me a great deal to see folk from my ethnic background behave this way. Having said all that..it's society in general that's at fault - selfishness and a lack of basic civility...not exclusive for any one group type..even though it seems that way where we live in bradford.
[quote][p][bold]spinnekop[/bold] wrote: Hnaginuff thrung eh? Wednesday? I will be with my pshycyatrist/therapi st, trying to work out why pakistani youths shouted obseane sexual comments at my mother as she walked me to school on my first day and computing ankles after pakistani youths fired a shotgun through the front door of my partner years later. Or trying to work out what happened to Bradford and why my car insurance costs so much and why its not a fine to drive with no seatbelt while talking on a mobile phone if you are not all white ( allright ). I conceed, this is not a Yorkshire city anymore. Maybe I should go back to St Beeds and do night classes? I still limp. Thanks be to allah.[/p][/quote]spinnekop. I really feel much sympathy for what happened to you and yours. I must emphasize the behaviour of the pakistani youths have absolutely nothing to do with the faith they were born into..you merely add fuel to the rabid anti islam fire. The problem lies with lazy parents who have no idea how difficult life was like for THEIR parents back in pakistan. Being called over to the UK to takeup the shortfall in man labour was literally a gift from Allah to our community and it pains me a great deal to see folk from my ethnic background behave this way. Having said all that..it's society in general that's at fault - selfishness and a lack of basic civility...not exclusive for any one group type..even though it seems that way where we live in bradford. nobody_move_or_the_muslim_gets_it
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2:41pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Patrick Bateman says...

mrs walker wrote:
Really? Where did you read that?

The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You should buy the printed T and A version Mrs W (at least from time to time!). It is as stifler's mom summarises. In fact the detailed report presents a very bleak and disturbing picture indeed.

I took the trouble to quote part of it and post it on the 'Faith trouble at St Bedes' thread (in the 'Forum' area of this site). Take a look if you can.

It is a shame that the T and A didn't reproduce such an important story on its web site in full as the abridged version has only created needless speculation as to what actually went on.
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You should buy the printed T and A version Mrs W (at least from time to time!). It is as stifler's mom summarises. In fact the detailed report presents a very bleak and disturbing picture indeed. I took the trouble to quote part of it and post it on the 'Faith trouble at St Bedes' thread (in the 'Forum' area of this site). Take a look if you can. It is a shame that the T and A didn't reproduce such an important story on its web site in full as the abridged version has only created needless speculation as to what actually went on. Patrick Bateman
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2:49pm Thu 22 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A.
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"Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils.
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Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage."
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May I ask which report you read?
Indeed, the one that "started on Monday with a stand-off between two rival groups of youths at the school in Emm Lane".

That suggests a degree of reciprocity, does it not? Notwithstanding later events, there was obviously a problem between rival groups in the first place, which belies stifler's mom's simplistic and goading comment about "young school children being attacked by asians in heaton".
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?[/p][/quote]Indeed, the one that "started on Monday with a stand-off between two rival groups of youths at the school in Emm Lane". That suggests a degree of reciprocity, does it not? Notwithstanding later events, there was obviously a problem between rival groups in the first place, which belies stifler's mom's simplistic and goading comment about "young school children being attacked by asians in heaton". mrs walker
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2:51pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Patrick Bateman says...

'It will be carried through the streets of Bradford on a special ‘bhaji barrow’'

I will be looking on, literally weeping with pride at this (it's the onions, see)!
'It will be carried through the streets of Bradford on a special ‘bhaji barrow’' I will be looking on, literally weeping with pride at this (it's the onions, see)! Patrick Bateman
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2:57pm Thu 22 Sep 11

king keighley says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.
Fair play to the organisers for putting the effort in and I've always got time for Bobby and the Prashad crew but.. can we not celebrate something other than Anglo-Pakistani culture? The Council seems to have a one track mind when it comes to culture. An those international markets are wearing a bit thin. As for Westfield, they've got a nerve showing up.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.[/p][/quote]Fair play to the organisers for putting the effort in and I've always got time for Bobby and the Prashad crew but.. can we not celebrate something other than Anglo-Pakistani culture? The Council seems to have a one track mind when it comes to culture. An those international markets are wearing a bit thin. As for Westfield, they've got a nerve showing up. king keighley
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3:00pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

mrs walker wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
mrs walker wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?
Indeed, the one that "started on Monday with a stand-off between two rival groups of youths at the school in Emm Lane". That suggests a degree of reciprocity, does it not? Notwithstanding later events, there was obviously a problem between rival groups in the first place, which belies stifler's mom's simplistic and goading comment about "young school children being attacked by asians in heaton".
So there was a stand off, fair enough but it's clear from the story who then started the violence that followed.
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?[/p][/quote]Indeed, the one that "started on Monday with a stand-off between two rival groups of youths at the school in Emm Lane". That suggests a degree of reciprocity, does it not? Notwithstanding later events, there was obviously a problem between rival groups in the first place, which belies stifler's mom's simplistic and goading comment about "young school children being attacked by asians in heaton".[/p][/quote]So there was a stand off, fair enough but it's clear from the story who then started the violence that followed. Thee Voice of Reason
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3:06pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Patrick Bateman says...

Mrs Walker. It is just as well you DIDN'T get to see the full report really as it has saved you from being placed in the embarrassing position of having to climb down from that reality-denying ivory tower in which you seem to reside.

Actually, even if you HAD seen it (and believe me, it makes it plain who were largely responsible) you would still squirm and weasel your way into somehow contriving that there was equal culpability on both sides wouldn't you?

Don't answer that. We all know the answer already.
Mrs Walker. It is just as well you DIDN'T get to see the full report really as it has saved you from being placed in the embarrassing position of having to climb down from that reality-denying ivory tower in which you seem to reside. Actually, even if you HAD seen it (and believe me, it makes it plain who were largely responsible) you would still squirm and weasel your way into somehow contriving that there was equal culpability on both sides wouldn't you? Don't answer that. We all know the answer already. Patrick Bateman
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3:10pm Thu 22 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

Patrick Bateman wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
Really? Where did you read that?

The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You should buy the printed T and A version Mrs W (at least from time to time!). It is as stifler's mom summarises. In fact the detailed report presents a very bleak and disturbing picture indeed.

I took the trouble to quote part of it and post it on the 'Faith trouble at St Bedes' thread (in the 'Forum' area of this site). Take a look if you can.

It is a shame that the T and A didn't reproduce such an important story on its web site in full as the abridged version has only created needless speculation as to what actually went on.
Thank you for clarifying that. I will see if I can find the full report. I would have to read it in its entirety I'm afraid to fully form an opinion; reading a quote from part of would be as incomplete as their abridged version.

Perhaps the T&A could make a subscription service available online so that those of us who prefer to receive our news digitally could still get a full story?
[quote][p][bold]Patrick Bateman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You should buy the printed T and A version Mrs W (at least from time to time!). It is as stifler's mom summarises. In fact the detailed report presents a very bleak and disturbing picture indeed. I took the trouble to quote part of it and post it on the 'Faith trouble at St Bedes' thread (in the 'Forum' area of this site). Take a look if you can. It is a shame that the T and A didn't reproduce such an important story on its web site in full as the abridged version has only created needless speculation as to what actually went on.[/p][/quote]Thank you for clarifying that. I will see if I can find the full report. I would have to read it in its entirety I'm afraid to fully form an opinion; reading a quote from part of would be as incomplete as their abridged version. Perhaps the T&A could make a subscription service available online so that those of us who prefer to receive our news digitally could still get a full story? mrs walker
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3:15pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Yorkshire Lass says...

This so called "positive Bradford day" was originally planned for the opening of the City Park but this of course got behind schedule because of the bad weather in winter! So rather than cancel, the city councillors decided it would go ahead anyhow to make us all feel good. Well I don't, it does not represent Bradford or Yorkshire in any way whatsoever. It seems that the council have lost their way again.
This so called "positive Bradford day" was originally planned for the opening of the City Park but this of course got behind schedule because of the bad weather in winter! So rather than cancel, the city councillors decided it would go ahead anyhow to make us all feel good. Well I don't, it does not represent Bradford or Yorkshire in any way whatsoever. It seems that the council have lost their way again. Yorkshire Lass
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3:30pm Thu 22 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Mrs Walker. It is just as well you DIDN'T get to see the full report really as it has saved you from being placed in the embarrassing position of having to climb down from that reality-denying ivory tower in which you seem to reside.

Actually, even if you HAD seen it (and believe me, it makes it plain who were largely responsible) you would still squirm and weasel your way into somehow contriving that there was equal culpability on both sides wouldn't you?

Don't answer that. We all know the answer already.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't. But I find it interesting that you take the T&A's word as gospel when it suits you, yet other times you criticise its accuracy...

'Reality-denying'. An interesting concept. One's perspective of reality always depends on where one is viewing it from.

A bit like bhajis I suppose. Is the bhaji too hot? Is it too spicy? There's no accounting for taste or opinion, but if Prashad's have anything to do with it it's probably pretty much spot on flavour-wise!
[quote][p][bold]Patrick Bateman[/bold] wrote: Mrs Walker. It is just as well you DIDN'T get to see the full report really as it has saved you from being placed in the embarrassing position of having to climb down from that reality-denying ivory tower in which you seem to reside. Actually, even if you HAD seen it (and believe me, it makes it plain who were largely responsible) you would still squirm and weasel your way into somehow contriving that there was equal culpability on both sides wouldn't you? Don't answer that. We all know the answer already.[/p][/quote]Maybe you do, maybe you don't. But I find it interesting that you take the T&A's word as gospel when it suits you, yet other times you criticise its accuracy... 'Reality-denying'. An interesting concept. One's perspective of reality always depends on where one is viewing it from. A bit like bhajis I suppose. Is the bhaji too hot? Is it too spicy? There's no accounting for taste or opinion, but if Prashad's have anything to do with it it's probably pretty much spot on flavour-wise! mrs walker
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3:42pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Yorkshire Lass wrote:
This so called "positive Bradford day" was originally planned for the opening of the City Park but this of course got behind schedule because of the bad weather in winter! So rather than cancel, the city councillors decided it would go ahead anyhow to make us all feel good. Well I don't, it does not represent Bradford or Yorkshire in any way whatsoever. It seems that the council have lost their way again.
Positive Bradford Day.
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Lets celebrate the fact we have the highest infant mortality rate in the UK (lets not mention why).
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Lets celebrate that not one brick has been laid in the shopping center that should be 3 years old by now by getting those responsible to tell us what we could expect in the future.
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Lets hold the event in a half finished park which is running over on finishing time and cost and has been scaled back from it's original plans.
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Lets completely forget anything to do with the history of Bradford and just bang out aload of international cuisine with a backdrop of Chinese and Asian dancers.
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I was going to question why this would take place on a weekday anyhow but I realised the councillors wouldn't want to come into the City on a weekend to enjoy a photo shoot, especiall those council members who travel up from Sheffield and Harrogate.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkshire Lass[/bold] wrote: This so called "positive Bradford day" was originally planned for the opening of the City Park but this of course got behind schedule because of the bad weather in winter! So rather than cancel, the city councillors decided it would go ahead anyhow to make us all feel good. Well I don't, it does not represent Bradford or Yorkshire in any way whatsoever. It seems that the council have lost their way again.[/p][/quote]Positive Bradford Day. . Lets celebrate the fact we have the highest infant mortality rate in the UK (lets not mention why). . Lets celebrate that not one brick has been laid in the shopping center that should be 3 years old by now by getting those responsible to tell us what we could expect in the future. . Lets hold the event in a half finished park which is running over on finishing time and cost and has been scaled back from it's original plans. . Lets completely forget anything to do with the history of Bradford and just bang out aload of international cuisine with a backdrop of Chinese and Asian dancers. . I was going to question why this would take place on a weekday anyhow but I realised the councillors wouldn't want to come into the City on a weekend to enjoy a photo shoot, especiall those council members who travel up from Sheffield and Harrogate. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:23pm Thu 22 Sep 11

angry bradfordian says...

I suppose it would be too much to expect the T&A to do a bit of investigative journalism for a change and find out how much Council Tax payers money is being spent on an event taking place whilst most of us are at work?
I suppose it would be too much to expect the T&A to do a bit of investigative journalism for a change and find out how much Council Tax payers money is being spent on an event taking place whilst most of us are at work? angry bradfordian
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4:27pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Patrick Bateman says...

Mrs Walker said:

'Maybe you do, maybe you don't. But I find it interesting that you take the T&A's word as gospel when it suits you, yet other times you criticise its accuracy...'

I always treat all stories with a healthy measure of scepticism. The fact that the T and A has historically been prone to 'gloss over' stories that are, ahem, 'sensitive' only makes this report more remarkable (and adds considerable weight to its accuracy).

Of course there IS the possibility that this report WAS the 'varnished version' - and the reality was, in fact, considerably worse - but let's not go there!

I agree with you about having an electronic version of the T and A though. I too would be willing to subscribe if it was sensibly priced.
Mrs Walker said: 'Maybe you do, maybe you don't. But I find it interesting that you take the T&A's word as gospel when it suits you, yet other times you criticise its accuracy...' I always treat all stories with a healthy measure of scepticism. The fact that the T and A has historically been prone to 'gloss over' stories that are, ahem, 'sensitive' only makes this report more remarkable (and adds considerable weight to its accuracy). Of course there IS the possibility that this report WAS the 'varnished version' - and the reality was, in fact, considerably worse - but let's not go there! I agree with you about having an electronic version of the T and A though. I too would be willing to subscribe if it was sensibly priced. Patrick Bateman
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4:42pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Thee Voice of Reason says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
I suppose it would be too much to expect the T&A to do a bit of investigative journalism for a change and find out how much Council Tax payers money is being spent on an event taking place whilst most of us are at work?
Like I said, it's on a Wednesday so members of the council can enjoy it, without spoiling their weekend by having to travel into Bradford on a non workday.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: I suppose it would be too much to expect the T&A to do a bit of investigative journalism for a change and find out how much Council Tax payers money is being spent on an event taking place whilst most of us are at work?[/p][/quote]Like I said, it's on a Wednesday so members of the council can enjoy it, without spoiling their weekend by having to travel into Bradford on a non workday. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:53pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Clowny says...

@Thee Voice of Reason, you're probably not wrong, the councillors or council directors would probably at least want overtime to show their faces on a Saturday.
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Your summary is very accurate too, though it could even could have additions:
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Let’s celebrate losing retailers year on year.
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Let’s celebrate the fact the council won’t permit some shops to have shutters especially external ones so they have to foot the bill for vandalism and break-ins to the point some actually up sticks and leave.
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Let’s celebrate in a failing city centre that the council is using ANPR and wardens and changing streets that were free to park into chargeable whilst the private sector offers little in the way of secure and competitively priced parking. Before JJ83 or whatever his latest alias is starts, if the City Park is to attract 10,000 people plus per event it needs more parking that is affordable, period.
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Let’s celebrate the analogue, aging and unfit for purpose CCTV system that fails to spot assaults, purse snatching, stabbings and rape that occur on an all too frequent basis. A system that has been designed in a static manner, fine for ANPR and charging drivers but useless for protecting the elderly, the vulnerable and those youngsters trying to enjoy a night out.
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Let’s celebrate the continued growth in the city centre of bookies, for which the council only ever pay lip service against, whilst always finally approving each application except the one overlooking the City Park.
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Let’s celebrate that those shops that aren’t bookies are allowed to become shisha lounges always in the guise of restaurants. Let’s celebrate that councils with backbone for example in Manchester are working with the police to tackle the issue head on whilst in Bradford there is no enforcement that isn’t initiated by HMRC.
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Let’s celebrate the fact virtually all the professionals have moved out of the apartments in Bradford due to lack of parking and facilities, meanwhile many have been recently broken into and burgled in broad daylight.
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Let’s celebrate the fact you can buy a 12 pack of beer or a large bottle of cider from Tesco and drink it in the city centre for free instead of spending in one of the many struggling pubs. The council have kindly put benches and seating to allow drinking in comfort, whilst the useless CCTV and infrequent police patrols will allow the drinking to take place unhindered.
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Let’s celebrate the fact you can sit in KFC on Tyrrel Street with your family and watch smack heads deposit their needles in a sharps bin.
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Let’s celebrate the fact you can walk around the Kirkgate market and see stall after stall after stall being vacant.
@Thee Voice of Reason, you're probably not wrong, the councillors or council directors would probably at least want overtime to show their faces on a Saturday. . Your summary is very accurate too, though it could even could have additions: . Let’s celebrate losing retailers year on year. . Let’s celebrate the fact the council won’t permit some shops to have shutters especially external ones so they have to foot the bill for vandalism and break-ins to the point some actually up sticks and leave. . Let’s celebrate in a failing city centre that the council is using ANPR and wardens and changing streets that were free to park into chargeable whilst the private sector offers little in the way of secure and competitively priced parking. Before JJ83 or whatever his latest alias is starts, if the City Park is to attract 10,000 people plus per event it needs more parking that is affordable, period. . Let’s celebrate the analogue, aging and unfit for purpose CCTV system that fails to spot assaults, purse snatching, stabbings and rape that occur on an all too frequent basis. A system that has been designed in a static manner, fine for ANPR and charging drivers but useless for protecting the elderly, the vulnerable and those youngsters trying to enjoy a night out. . Let’s celebrate the continued growth in the city centre of bookies, for which the council only ever pay lip service against, whilst always finally approving each application except the one overlooking the City Park. . Let’s celebrate that those shops that aren’t bookies are allowed to become shisha lounges always in the guise of restaurants. Let’s celebrate that councils with backbone for example in Manchester are working with the police to tackle the issue head on whilst in Bradford there is no enforcement that isn’t initiated by HMRC. . Let’s celebrate the fact virtually all the professionals have moved out of the apartments in Bradford due to lack of parking and facilities, meanwhile many have been recently broken into and burgled in broad daylight. . Let’s celebrate the fact you can buy a 12 pack of beer or a large bottle of cider from Tesco and drink it in the city centre for free instead of spending in one of the many struggling pubs. The council have kindly put benches and seating to allow drinking in comfort, whilst the useless CCTV and infrequent police patrols will allow the drinking to take place unhindered. . Let’s celebrate the fact you can sit in KFC on Tyrrel Street with your family and watch smack heads deposit their needles in a sharps bin. . Let’s celebrate the fact you can walk around the Kirkgate market and see stall after stall after stall being vacant. Clowny
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5:23pm Thu 22 Sep 11

K.Y.E. says...

Sharps bins are found in cities all over the UK (in York, it is next to a Tourist Info office!), it's not just a Bradford problem.
I've also seen benches in other cities.

It's not exactly common-sense to have it on a weekday though.
Sharps bins are found in cities all over the UK (in York, it is next to a Tourist Info office!), it's not just a Bradford problem. I've also seen benches in other cities. It's not exactly common-sense to have it on a weekday though. K.Y.E.
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5:53pm Thu 22 Sep 11

stiflers mom says...

lets celebrate that you can still buy knives,swords,replic
a guns, tobaco tins with pictures of cannabis leaves on ect from the newsagents at the bottom of sunbridge road !!!!!!!!
lets celebrate that you can still buy knives,swords,replic a guns, tobaco tins with pictures of cannabis leaves on ect from the newsagents at the bottom of sunbridge road !!!!!!!! stiflers mom
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5:57pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Clowny says...

K.Y.E. wrote:
Sharps bins are found in cities all over the UK (in York, it is next to a Tourist Info office!), it's not just a Bradford problem.
I've also seen benches in other cities.

It's not exactly common-sense to have it on a weekday though.
I've never seen a sharps bin next to a key piece of public realm, you don't spend over £24 million pounds to then have your nearest *family* food outlet looking directly at a methadone sharps bin unless you're a planner with an evil sense of humour.
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If the idea is so popular I wonder why Harvey Nicks in Leeds hasn't opted to have a sharps bin outside.
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The benches aren't the problem per se it's the fact the police don't want the hassle of arresting a drunk so overlook the issue far too often.
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But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the police have targets and don't want to arrest drunks, so putting benches, bookies and off licences all within 50 metres of each other is a recipe for an eventful city centre but not the kind of events you'd want to publicise.
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I would add repeating mistakes that other towns may have made doesn't make it right either.
[quote][p][bold]K.Y.E.[/bold] wrote: Sharps bins are found in cities all over the UK (in York, it is next to a Tourist Info office!), it's not just a Bradford problem. I've also seen benches in other cities. It's not exactly common-sense to have it on a weekday though.[/p][/quote]I've never seen a sharps bin next to a key piece of public realm, you don't spend over £24 million pounds to then have your nearest *family* food outlet looking directly at a methadone sharps bin unless you're a planner with an evil sense of humour. . If the idea is so popular I wonder why Harvey Nicks in Leeds hasn't opted to have a sharps bin outside. . The benches aren't the problem per se it's the fact the police don't want the hassle of arresting a drunk so overlook the issue far too often. . But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the police have targets and don't want to arrest drunks, so putting benches, bookies and off licences all within 50 metres of each other is a recipe for an eventful city centre but not the kind of events you'd want to publicise. . I would add repeating mistakes that other towns may have made doesn't make it right either. Clowny
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5:59pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Clowny says...

stiflers mom wrote:
lets celebrate that you can still buy knives,swords,replic

a guns, tobaco tins with pictures of cannabis leaves on ect from the newsagents at the bottom of sunbridge road !!!!!!!!
You beat me to that one, after my list I did remember that. :-)
[quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: lets celebrate that you can still buy knives,swords,replic a guns, tobaco tins with pictures of cannabis leaves on ect from the newsagents at the bottom of sunbridge road !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You beat me to that one, after my list I did remember that. :-) Clowny
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6:02pm Thu 22 Sep 11

ravacity says...

this aint nothing to do with the council,it was started by a group of bradford business people trying to do something positive for the city,great photo of the students all smiling good luck to them i hope they do manage to make the biggest bhaji,would be better at the weekend though
this aint nothing to do with the council,it was started by a group of bradford business people trying to do something positive for the city,great photo of the students all smiling good luck to them i hope they do manage to make the biggest bhaji,would be better at the weekend though ravacity
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8:05pm Thu 22 Sep 11

Amarinder K says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A.
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"Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils.
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Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage."
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May I ask which report you read?
It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians.
Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?[/p][/quote]It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians. Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims. Amarinder K
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12:49am Fri 23 Sep 11

Reno11 says...

Some people on here are clearly confused... This is supposed to be a day to celebrate all things POSITIVE about the city, not negative duh!!

here's a few things we should all be proud off...

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Bradford has shown recently with the British Science Festival it can hold major events with huge success, gaining praise from many including the festival director, who was quoted as saying, “the city's enthusiasm was magnificent” and that “there’s been a really good buzz around the city this week”.

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Bradford University's £40 million student village opened this week and has been voted the greenest new building on the planet, beating off competition from more than one million buildings.

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The National Media Museum was voted the best indoor attraction in Yorkshire this week, 3rd best overall attraction.

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City Park will be opening soon, which will make the city a darn sight more attractive, as well as giving us the space to hold major outdoor events.

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New developmens are popping up such as Culture Fusion, Travelodge and Premier Inn.

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Westfield recently put in a new planning application, and will shortley be announcing witch department store will be anchoring along with M&S....

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Please don't respond with more negativity cos you'll only be further proving why we need such a day!
Some people on here are clearly confused... This is supposed to be a day to celebrate all things POSITIVE about the city, not negative duh!! here's a few things we should all be proud off... . Bradford has shown recently with the British Science Festival it can hold major events with huge success, gaining praise from many including the festival director, who was quoted as saying, “the city's enthusiasm was magnificent” and that “there’s been a really good buzz around the city this week”. . Bradford University's £40 million student village opened this week and has been voted the greenest new building on the planet, beating off competition from more than one million buildings. . The National Media Museum was voted the best indoor attraction in Yorkshire this week, 3rd best overall attraction. . City Park will be opening soon, which will make the city a darn sight more attractive, as well as giving us the space to hold major outdoor events. . New developmens are popping up such as Culture Fusion, Travelodge and Premier Inn. . Westfield recently put in a new planning application, and will shortley be announcing witch department store will be anchoring along with M&S.... . Please don't respond with more negativity cos you'll only be further proving why we need such a day! Reno11
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6:31am Fri 23 Sep 11

Albion. says...

Reno11 wrote:
Some people on here are clearly confused... This is supposed to be a day to celebrate all things POSITIVE about the city, not negative duh!!

here's a few things we should all be proud off...

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Bradford has shown recently with the British Science Festival it can hold major events with huge success, gaining praise from many including the festival director, who was quoted as saying, “the city's enthusiasm was magnificent” and that “there’s been a really good buzz around the city this week”.

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Bradford University's £40 million student village opened this week and has been voted the greenest new building on the planet, beating off competition from more than one million buildings.

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The National Media Museum was voted the best indoor attraction in Yorkshire this week, 3rd best overall attraction.

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City Park will be opening soon, which will make the city a darn sight more attractive, as well as giving us the space to hold major outdoor events.

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New developmens are popping up such as Culture Fusion, Travelodge and Premier Inn.

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Westfield recently put in a new planning application, and will shortley be announcing witch department store will be anchoring along with M&S....

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Please don't respond with more negativity cos you'll only be further proving why we need such a day!
"Westfield recently put in a new planning application, and will shortley be announcing witch department store will be anchoring along with M&S...."
I look forward to purchasing my spells there!
[quote][p][bold]Reno11[/bold] wrote: Some people on here are clearly confused... This is supposed to be a day to celebrate all things POSITIVE about the city, not negative duh!! here's a few things we should all be proud off... . Bradford has shown recently with the British Science Festival it can hold major events with huge success, gaining praise from many including the festival director, who was quoted as saying, “the city's enthusiasm was magnificent” and that “there’s been a really good buzz around the city this week”. . Bradford University's £40 million student village opened this week and has been voted the greenest new building on the planet, beating off competition from more than one million buildings. . The National Media Museum was voted the best indoor attraction in Yorkshire this week, 3rd best overall attraction. . City Park will be opening soon, which will make the city a darn sight more attractive, as well as giving us the space to hold major outdoor events. . New developmens are popping up such as Culture Fusion, Travelodge and Premier Inn. . Westfield recently put in a new planning application, and will shortley be announcing witch department store will be anchoring along with M&S.... . Please don't respond with more negativity cos you'll only be further proving why we need such a day![/p][/quote]"Westfield recently put in a new planning application, and will shortley be announcing witch department store will be anchoring along with M&S...." I look forward to purchasing my spells there! Albion.
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11:21am Fri 23 Sep 11

john.c says...

Amarinder K wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
mrs walker wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?
It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians. Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.
I agree 100%,it always annoys me too when an old lady has been mugged and it says the police are looking for an 'asian youth', everyone knows its a muslim.Im glad the sikhs and hindus are starting to stand up and say something about this,Christians,Sikh
s,Hindus and Jews can all live together in peace but add muslims to this mix and the trouble starts....religion of peace ? my a**e. It's not islamophobia when they really ARE trying to kill you.
[quote][p][bold]Amarinder K[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?[/p][/quote]It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians. Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.[/p][/quote]I agree 100%,it always annoys me too when an old lady has been mugged and it says the police are looking for an 'asian youth', everyone knows its a muslim.Im glad the sikhs and hindus are starting to stand up and say something about this,Christians,Sikh s,Hindus and Jews can all live together in peace but add muslims to this mix and the trouble starts....religion of peace ? my a**e. It's not islamophobia when they really ARE trying to kill you. john.c
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1:56pm Fri 23 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

john.c wrote:
Amarinder K wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
mrs walker wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?
It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians. Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.
I agree 100%,it always annoys me too when an old lady has been mugged and it says the police are looking for an 'asian youth', everyone knows its a muslim.Im glad the sikhs and hindus are starting to stand up and say something about this,Christians,Sikh

s,Hindus and Jews can all live together in peace but add muslims to this mix and the trouble starts....religion of peace ? my a**e. It's not islamophobia when they really ARE trying to kill you.
And you can tell the difference between a muslim, a hindu, a christian, an agnostic just HOW, exactly...?

A run-of-the mill stupid thug is exactly what it says on the tin. No more, no less. They come in black, brown, white and shades in between. They're usually male. Your gender has a lot to answer for, john c.
[quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amarinder K[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?[/p][/quote]It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians. Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.[/p][/quote]I agree 100%,it always annoys me too when an old lady has been mugged and it says the police are looking for an 'asian youth', everyone knows its a muslim.Im glad the sikhs and hindus are starting to stand up and say something about this,Christians,Sikh s,Hindus and Jews can all live together in peace but add muslims to this mix and the trouble starts....religion of peace ? my a**e. It's not islamophobia when they really ARE trying to kill you.[/p][/quote]And you can tell the difference between a muslim, a hindu, a christian, an agnostic just HOW, exactly...? A run-of-the mill stupid thug is exactly what it says on the tin. No more, no less. They come in black, brown, white and shades in between. They're usually male. Your gender has a lot to answer for, john c. mrs walker
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2:27pm Fri 23 Sep 11

Clowny says...

And you can tell the difference between a muslim, a hindu, a christian, an agnostic just HOW, exactly...?

Well usually the give away is being in a gang of at least 4 with a V style back haircut, Rockports and Henleys clothing, together with the shouts of m*ther f**k*rs innit G'.
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Well you did ask! :-)
[quote]And you can tell the difference between a muslim, a hindu, a christian, an agnostic just HOW, exactly...?[/quote] Well usually the give away is being in a gang of at least 4 with a V style back haircut, Rockports and Henleys clothing, together with the shouts of m*ther f**k*rs innit G'. . Well you did ask! :-) Clowny
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4:20pm Fri 23 Sep 11

Rupert 'shameful' Murdoch says...

Clowny wrote:
And you can tell the difference between a muslim, a hindu, a christian, an agnostic just HOW, exactly...?

Well usually the give away is being in a gang of at least 4 with a V style back haircut, Rockports and Henleys clothing, together with the shouts of m*ther f**k*rs innit G'.
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Well you did ask! :-)
True Muslims don't look (and talk) in that disgusting manner, Clowny.
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Let's be real here. Religion has nothing to do with it. They're *Pakistanis*.
[quote][p][bold]Clowny[/bold] wrote: [quote]And you can tell the difference between a muslim, a hindu, a christian, an agnostic just HOW, exactly...?[/quote] Well usually the give away is being in a gang of at least 4 with a V style back haircut, Rockports and Henleys clothing, together with the shouts of m*ther f**k*rs innit G'. . Well you did ask! :-)[/p][/quote]True Muslims don't look (and talk) in that disgusting manner, Clowny. . Let's be real here. Religion has nothing to do with it. They're *Pakistanis*. Rupert 'shameful' Murdoch
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9:01pm Fri 23 Sep 11

jordashe says...

Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.
Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia. jordashe
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12:39am Sat 24 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

jordashe wrote:
Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.
Some people are less tolerant than others. I refer you to our regular contributors as a shining example of that.
[quote][p][bold]jordashe[/bold] wrote: Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.[/p][/quote]Some people are less tolerant than others. I refer you to our regular contributors as a shining example of that. mrs walker
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5:42pm Sat 24 Sep 11

john.c says...

mrs walker wrote:
jordashe wrote: Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.
Some people are less tolerant than others. I refer you to our regular contributors as a shining example of that.
You really do talk s***e,it is very easy to tell the difference between Hindus,Sikhs and muslims.Muslims are the ones in the expensive cars with no (legal) means of income,we all know its drugs but no one can say,also they are the ones attacking people outside Heaton school or the ones rioting down toller lane or orchestrating the cash for crash scams or mugging white schoolboys or mugging and beating up old white ladies or setting up barbers and hand car washes as fronts for money laundering,you know the ones mrs Walker,those that contribute nothing to Bradford whatsoever,the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them.
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jordashe[/bold] wrote: Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.[/p][/quote]Some people are less tolerant than others. I refer you to our regular contributors as a shining example of that.[/p][/quote]You really do talk s***e,it is very easy to tell the difference between Hindus,Sikhs and muslims.Muslims are the ones in the expensive cars with no (legal) means of income,we all know its drugs but no one can say,also they are the ones attacking people outside Heaton school or the ones rioting down toller lane or orchestrating the cash for crash scams or mugging white schoolboys or mugging and beating up old white ladies or setting up barbers and hand car washes as fronts for money laundering,you know the ones mrs Walker,those that contribute nothing to Bradford whatsoever,the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them. john.c
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12:00am Sun 25 Sep 11

Reno11 says...

john.c wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
jordashe wrote: Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.
Some people are less tolerant than others. I refer you to our regular contributors as a shining example of that.
You really do talk s***e,it is very easy to tell the difference between Hindus,Sikhs and muslims.Muslims are the ones in the expensive cars with no (legal) means of income,we all know its drugs but no one can say,also they are the ones attacking people outside Heaton school or the ones rioting down toller lane or orchestrating the cash for crash scams or mugging white schoolboys or mugging and beating up old white ladies or setting up barbers and hand car washes as fronts for money laundering,you know the ones mrs Walker,those that contribute nothing to Bradford whatsoever,the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them.
http://tinyurl.com/3
lp6z8a
[quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jordashe[/bold] wrote: Religion has everything to do with it, & some religions are less tolerant than others,.. oh and by the way 95% of Pakistanis are Muslims ..fact..check Wikipedia.[/p][/quote]Some people are less tolerant than others. I refer you to our regular contributors as a shining example of that.[/p][/quote]You really do talk s***e,it is very easy to tell the difference between Hindus,Sikhs and muslims.Muslims are the ones in the expensive cars with no (legal) means of income,we all know its drugs but no one can say,also they are the ones attacking people outside Heaton school or the ones rioting down toller lane or orchestrating the cash for crash scams or mugging white schoolboys or mugging and beating up old white ladies or setting up barbers and hand car washes as fronts for money laundering,you know the ones mrs Walker,those that contribute nothing to Bradford whatsoever,the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them.[/p][/quote]http://tinyurl.com/3 lp6z8a Reno11
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12:44am Sun 25 Sep 11

proudbradfordian31 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.
theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.[/p][/quote]theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake? proudbradfordian31
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12:57am Sun 25 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

john c. wrote:
Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them


erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland..
How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics.

The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years.

And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009.

But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts...

I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting.

And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example

As you were.
john c. wrote: [quote]Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them [/quote] erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were. mrs walker
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1:00am Sun 25 Sep 11

proudbradfordian31 says...

Amarinder K wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.
You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A.
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"Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils.
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Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage."
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May I ask which report you read?
It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians.
Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.
this is story about positive bradford amarinder, i dont notice you complaining about the term "asian" when the telegraph is reporting good stories about asians? perhaps you can show me ? i dont complain about the term asian when the sikhs and hindus do bad things, and dont tell me they dont because i have hundreds of cut outs from this paper over the last 15 years of sikhs and hindus being described asians in cases of kerb crawling , murder, rape, sexual abuse, wife beating, and many more . the reason i have these is because i have been through this before with the hindu and sikh community, so i keep them as proove. i kniow muslims do these things too, but its some pompous coconut members of the indian community who complain when muslim criminals are described as asians. 07940494255, anyone who wants to see these cases can contact me and i will be only to pleased to forward them to yourselves. i think you will be surprised.
[quote][p][bold]Amarinder K[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: Really? Where did you read that? The only thing I read about in Heaton was two groups of schoolkids battling it out. Idiots, the lot of them.[/p][/quote]You clearly didn't read what was printed in the T&A, just for you I will repost it as it was in yesterdays T&A. . "Police were called to St Bede’s at lunchtime on Monday after reports of a stand-off and later that day, as school buses left the site, the vehicles were set on by a group of Asian pupils. . Stones and half-bricks were thrown at the three buses and terrified pupils had to dodge the missiles which smashed windows causing up to £600 worth of damage." . May I ask which report you read?[/p][/quote]It annoys me when the T&A says 'asian' pupils when in fact they were muslims. Don't forget sikhs and hindus are also asians. Just goes to show that you can't have mixed schools with muslims and non-muslims.[/p][/quote]this is story about positive bradford amarinder, i dont notice you complaining about the term "asian" when the telegraph is reporting good stories about asians? perhaps you can show me ? i dont complain about the term asian when the sikhs and hindus do bad things, and dont tell me they dont because i have hundreds of cut outs from this paper over the last 15 years of sikhs and hindus being described asians in cases of kerb crawling , murder, rape, sexual abuse, wife beating, and many more . the reason i have these is because i have been through this before with the hindu and sikh community, so i keep them as proove. i kniow muslims do these things too, but its some pompous coconut members of the indian community who complain when muslim criminals are described as asians. 07940494255, anyone who wants to see these cases can contact me and i will be only to pleased to forward them to yourselves. i think you will be surprised. proudbradfordian31
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8:26am Sun 25 Sep 11

Oldwestbowling says...

proudbradfordian31 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.
theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?
And what have you done to represent your culture for this Positive Bradford Day? Bugger all probably as it's not members of the public who are organising it. Jane Vincent and Saleem Kadar are the organisers and TVOR has a point... and whatever is to be showcased from different cultures will be because that organisation will have been asked to take part and not because they have jumped up and volunteered.
[quote][p][bold]proudbradfordian31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.[/p][/quote]theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?[/p][/quote]And what have you done to represent your culture for this Positive Bradford Day? Bugger all probably as it's not members of the public who are organising it. Jane Vincent and Saleem Kadar are the organisers and TVOR has a point... and whatever is to be showcased from different cultures will be because that organisation will have been asked to take part and not because they have jumped up and volunteered. Oldwestbowling
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2:04pm Sun 25 Sep 11

Victor Clayton says...

mrs walker wrote:
john c. wrote:
Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them
erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.
Mrs Walker, you were wrong about what happened at st Bedes (my god son was on the bus). why not just admit it?
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: john c. wrote: [quote]Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them [/quote] erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.[/p][/quote]Mrs Walker, you were wrong about what happened at st Bedes (my god son was on the bus). why not just admit it? Victor Clayton
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3:54pm Sun 25 Sep 11

dearymeee says...

My first post - and its going to be a rant.

I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible.

The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up.

Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job?

Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong.

The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm

Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi?

Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord.

Well forgive me for not celebrating.

I'm off for a lie down
My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down dearymeee
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4:03pm Sun 25 Sep 11

richmondbull says...

dearymeee wrote:
My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee,

We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return.

I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush,

Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
[quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different. richmondbull
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4:13pm Sun 25 Sep 11

richmondbull says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
mrs walker wrote: john c. wrote:
Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them
erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.
Mrs Walker, you were wrong about what happened at st Bedes (my god son was on the bus). why not just admit it?
Mrs Walker will not admit to being wrong,Victor clayton!!Just who do you think you are to question her!

Mrs Walker will not have any of it that asians(muslims) were at fault,As we all know and Mrs walker will second this was no doubt the work of the EDL! who travelled to toller lane unannounced and kicked off!


Victor the bottom line is to really take pity on wacky walker,her thinking is deluded and at best dangerous...im actually quite suprised she has not chained herself to railings at dale farm travellers site.

A teapot of the highest order.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: john c. wrote: [quote]Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them [/quote] erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.[/p][/quote]Mrs Walker, you were wrong about what happened at st Bedes (my god son was on the bus). why not just admit it?[/p][/quote]Mrs Walker will not admit to being wrong,Victor clayton!!Just who do you think you are to question her! Mrs Walker will not have any of it that asians(muslims) were at fault,As we all know and Mrs walker will second this was no doubt the work of the EDL! who travelled to toller lane unannounced and kicked off! Victor the bottom line is to really take pity on wacky walker,her thinking is deluded and at best dangerous...im actually quite suprised she has not chained herself to railings at dale farm travellers site. A teapot of the highest order. richmondbull
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4:18pm Sun 25 Sep 11

richmondbull says...

proudbradfordian31 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.
theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?
hmm,The worlds largest fruitcake.....Do we not already have it?? Over to you Mrs Walker.....
[quote][p][bold]proudbradfordian31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.[/p][/quote]theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?[/p][/quote]hmm,The worlds largest fruitcake.....Do we not already have it?? Over to you Mrs Walker..... richmondbull
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4:32pm Sun 25 Sep 11

john.c says...

mrs walker wrote:
john c. wrote:
Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them
erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.
Ok,lets just wait and see who the next mass murder is by,a car bombing or a suicide bombing,my moneys on the religion of peace. Please tell me any positives Islam contributes to anywhere on the planet. You ready to admit the truth about St Bedes yet ?
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: john c. wrote: [quote]Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them [/quote] erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.[/p][/quote]Ok,lets just wait and see who the next mass murder is by,a car bombing or a suicide bombing,my moneys on the religion of peace. Please tell me any positives Islam contributes to anywhere on the planet. You ready to admit the truth about St Bedes yet ? john.c
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10:36pm Sun 25 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
john c. wrote:
Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them
erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.
Mrs Walker, you were wrong about what happened at st Bedes (my god son was on the bus). why not just admit it?
As I pointed out, my initial response was based on the report in the online version of the T&A. I haven't yet had the opportunity to read the report in the paper version which, according to Patrick, is more detailed. Nor have I spoken to your son, or anyone else who was there. Bearing in mind that I am not in possession of the facts, I'm not prepared to form an opinion about what happened - or the events that led up to it.

You should have linked to the correct post though. This one was in answer to John C.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: john c. wrote: [quote]Muslims are...the ones that everytime theres mass murder anywhere on the planet it's always them [/quote] erm, Anders Breivik... Timothy McVeigh... David Copeland.. How about the so-called Christian principles of Pastor Clifford Peeples who was caught with hand grenades and a pipe bomb or Pastor Kenny McClinton who advocated beheading Roman Catholics. The National Liberation Front of Tripura, described as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, kill Hindus who refuse to convert to Christianity. Don't forget The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda: masssacres, rapes, tortures..all in a day's work, and perennial favourite the Ku Klux Klan, still active after all these years. And that's just a few of the so-called Christians. The Jews give us Baruch Goldstein who shot and killed 29 Muslims inside the Ibrahimi mosque in 1994 and wounded 125 more, the Bat Ayin Underground, whose attempt to blow up a Palestinian girls school in 2002 with a trailer full of explosives was fortunately foiled; Yaakov Teitel and the attack on the Tel Aviv Gay Centre in 2009. But at least there aren't any extremist Hindu groups...are there? well, how about the terrorist attacks in Malegaon in 2008; the Samjhauta Express bombings in 2007 which may or may not have been perpetrated by the group Abhinav Bharat. Meanwhile the group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have been implicated in a number of terrorist acts... I'm not saying all Muslims are peaceful; but Muslims, collectively, certainly aren't responsible for all mass murder on the planet. The next time you accuse me of talking s***e you might want to check your own facts and assertions before posting. And do try to exemplify tolerance if you can; you're setting a very poor example As you were.[/p][/quote]Mrs Walker, you were wrong about what happened at st Bedes (my god son was on the bus). why not just admit it?[/p][/quote]As I pointed out, my initial response was based on the report in the online version of the T&A. I haven't yet had the opportunity to read the report in the paper version which, according to Patrick, is more detailed. Nor have I spoken to your son, or anyone else who was there. Bearing in mind that I am not in possession of the facts, I'm not prepared to form an opinion about what happened - or the events that led up to it. You should have linked to the correct post though. This one was in answer to John C. mrs walker
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10:59pm Sun 25 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee,

We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return.

I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush,

Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble.

Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
[quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me.... mrs walker
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7:25am Mon 26 Sep 11

dearymeee says...

mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on?

Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those.

My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while.

Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community? dearymeee
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3:50pm Mon 26 Sep 11

john.c says...

dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
[quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one. john.c
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5:31pm Mon 26 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

john.c wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.
[quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.[/p][/quote]I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education. mrs walker
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10:45pm Mon 26 Sep 11

greathortonsam says...

Oldwestbowling wrote:
proudbradfordian31 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.
theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?
And what have you done to represent your culture for this Positive Bradford Day? Bugger all probably as it's not members of the public who are organising it. Jane Vincent and Saleem Kadar are the organisers and TVOR has a point... and whatever is to be showcased from different cultures will be because that organisation will have been asked to take part and not because they have jumped up and volunteered.
I just started volunteering with this event: As I understand it, it has open to anyone to get involved, the only people turned down are the ones who missed the deadline.

This point obviously relates to the Bhaji question as well: the organisers did not request a Bhaji or a Yorkshire Pudding to be made - they have simply acted as facilitators to allow people with ideas to showcase them. It's been advertised through TV, radio, local paper, hospitals and other community organisations, as wide as we could so that anyone who had a positive idea/organisation could get involved.

The marquees are now up and over a hundred organisations are involved, we hope to see you there on Wednesday!
[quote][p][bold]Oldwestbowling[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]proudbradfordian31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: All the events appear to be from a culture other than that of England and Yorkshire. Surely in a multicultural city, every culture should be represented yet reading the details there appears to be a clear ommission. Lets forget our Bradfordian and Yorkshire heritage and celebrate everyone else eh, what a load of shyte.[/p][/quote]theres no point in complaining whilst sitting on your armchair about english cultures not being reperesented, maybe the english should not be so lazy and get off their big bottoms and do something simeler instead of always moaning!! , may i suggest making the worlds largest fruitcake?[/p][/quote]And what have you done to represent your culture for this Positive Bradford Day? Bugger all probably as it's not members of the public who are organising it. Jane Vincent and Saleem Kadar are the organisers and TVOR has a point... and whatever is to be showcased from different cultures will be because that organisation will have been asked to take part and not because they have jumped up and volunteered.[/p][/quote]I just started volunteering with this event: As I understand it, it has open to anyone to get involved, the only people turned down are the ones who missed the deadline. This point obviously relates to the Bhaji question as well: the organisers did not request a Bhaji or a Yorkshire Pudding to be made - they have simply acted as facilitators to allow people with ideas to showcase them. It's been advertised through TV, radio, local paper, hospitals and other community organisations, as wide as we could so that anyone who had a positive idea/organisation could get involved. The marquees are now up and over a hundred organisations are involved, we hope to see you there on Wednesday! greathortonsam
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7:37am Tue 27 Sep 11

john.c says...

mrs walker wrote:
john.c wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.
You say his first wife was a business woman, which wife was the 9 year old girl then ?
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.[/p][/quote]I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.[/p][/quote]You say his first wife was a business woman, which wife was the 9 year old girl then ? john.c
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8:29am Tue 27 Sep 11

yorkshiredude says...

That onion bhaji will go down nicely with some chips (taken from shoulders) and a pint of BITTER.
That onion bhaji will go down nicely with some chips (taken from shoulders) and a pint of BITTER. yorkshiredude
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1:20pm Tue 27 Sep 11

Mutha.Slimer says...

Two words I thought I would never see in the same sentence " positive" and "Bradford". Not seen anything positive about Bradford for over 20 years :-( . Oh sorry I forgot, on a " poitive" note you can get cheap toilet rolls by the boatload up near cannon mills. ( every cloud eh).
Two words I thought I would never see in the same sentence " positive" and "Bradford". Not seen anything positive about Bradford for over 20 years :-( . Oh sorry I forgot, on a " poitive" note you can get cheap toilet rolls by the boatload up near cannon mills. ( every cloud eh). Mutha.Slimer
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1:47pm Tue 27 Sep 11

richmondbull says...

mrs walker wrote:
john.c wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.
How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death?

You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth.

You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue
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[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.[/p][/quote]I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.[/p][/quote]How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death? You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth. You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue .. richmondbull
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12:05am Wed 28 Sep 11

mrs walker says...

richmondbull wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
john.c wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.
How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death?

You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth.

You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue

..
You don't live here, you don't talk to people and you don't want to know what they think. You're a rude and tedious bigot with your own anti-muslim agenda and it's pointless discussing anything with you because your preconceptions are too embedded. The people that I talk to are more than happy to discuss those issues. The key word is 'discuss'. You don't understand that concept though. Hence the futility of trying to communicate with you.

A policy of 'ignore, deny, continue'? Look in the mirror, EDL boy. Look in the mirror.
[quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.[/p][/quote]I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.[/p][/quote]How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death? You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth. You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue ..[/p][/quote]You don't live here, you don't talk to people and you don't want to know what they think. You're a rude and tedious bigot with your own anti-muslim agenda and it's pointless discussing anything with you because your preconceptions are too embedded. The people that I talk to are more than happy to discuss those issues. The key word is 'discuss'. You don't understand that concept though. Hence the futility of trying to communicate with you. A policy of 'ignore, deny, continue'? Look in the mirror, EDL boy. Look in the mirror. mrs walker
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2:54am Wed 28 Sep 11

richmondbull says...

mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
john.c wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.
How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death? You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth. You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue ..
You don't live here, you don't talk to people and you don't want to know what they think. You're a rude and tedious bigot with your own anti-muslim agenda and it's pointless discussing anything with you because your preconceptions are too embedded. The people that I talk to are more than happy to discuss those issues. The key word is 'discuss'. You don't understand that concept though. Hence the futility of trying to communicate with you. A policy of 'ignore, deny, continue'? Look in the mirror, EDL boy. Look in the mirror.
There you go again,Having been exposed as a loon yet again,You revert to the old and trusted racist bigot,EDL line,

But hey ho simmer down from your geriatric tirade and do what you do best of all,

Ignore,Deny ,Continue (you would'nt wanna upset the locals now wackers!)
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.[/p][/quote]I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.[/p][/quote]How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death? You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth. You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue ..[/p][/quote]You don't live here, you don't talk to people and you don't want to know what they think. You're a rude and tedious bigot with your own anti-muslim agenda and it's pointless discussing anything with you because your preconceptions are too embedded. The people that I talk to are more than happy to discuss those issues. The key word is 'discuss'. You don't understand that concept though. Hence the futility of trying to communicate with you. A policy of 'ignore, deny, continue'? Look in the mirror, EDL boy. Look in the mirror.[/p][/quote]There you go again,Having been exposed as a loon yet again,You revert to the old and trusted racist bigot,EDL line, But hey ho simmer down from your geriatric tirade and do what you do best of all, Ignore,Deny ,Continue (you would'nt wanna upset the locals now wackers!) richmondbull
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3:02am Wed 28 Sep 11

richmondbull says...

mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
john.c wrote:
dearymeee wrote:
mrs walker wrote:
richmondbull wrote:
dearymeee wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down
Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.
Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....
'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?
Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.
I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.
How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death? You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth. You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue ..
You don't live here, you don't talk to people and you don't want to know what they think. You're a rude and tedious bigot with your own anti-muslim agenda and it's pointless discussing anything with you because your preconceptions are too embedded. The people that I talk to are more than happy to discuss those issues. The key word is 'discuss'. You don't understand that concept though. Hence the futility of trying to communicate with you. A policy of 'ignore, deny, continue'? Look in the mirror, EDL boy. Look in the mirror.
what is racist Mrs walker about stating what happened to Manningham ward Labour club?

Does questioning why women are stoned to death in certain Islamic countries make me a member of the EDL Mrs Walker?

And of course your old favorite,because ive mentioned drug/gun crimes i am a bigot!


Your sounding a tadge like Gordon Brown when he went campaigning in Lancashire,Then again you have plenty in common with the Labour party.....


Ignore,deny,continue
! hahaha
[quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs walker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richmondbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dearymeee[/bold] wrote: My first post - and its going to be a rant. I have lived in Leeds my entire life but I've worked all over Bradford for the last 3 years. It is the biggest dump I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. There are nice patches and plenty of good, honest folk but I have to say that on the whole it's terrible. The problem, as I see it, is that nobody in power will acknowledge the glaringly obvious issue of Pakistani culture being forced upon us. I wouldnt mind if these people were part of society but theyre not. They, on the whole, do not like, or even acknowledge, White people. They want their own community and we have let them have it. Areas such as Manningham Lane, Keighley and many more might as well be in Pakistan. I have to drive round these places every day and the things I see are unbelievable. The 70k car parked outside 50k houses. The streets packed with cars on weekdays because nobody has a job. Drug deals in broad daylight. Its as if the police have just given up. Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen an over 40 Pakistani lady with a job? Every Pakistani area is a complete disgrace. They cannot live like we do. Most of the houses have furniture abandoned outside because they know the council will sort it. They are seemingly a people without pride when it comes to looking after their neighbourhood. If anybody thinks that is racist then please prove me wrong. The city is lined with car washes, awful takeaways, shops that cannot possibly be profitable and none of it is looked into. Where is the money for the Range Rovers coming from???? Hmmm Why cant somebody stand up and admit this is a problem without the fear of being called a Nazi? Bradford is falling apart and the T&A reports how proud we should be of the largest onion bhaji. Or that Katie Price is getting her Bugatti Veyron painted pink by the local drug lord. Well forgive me for not celebrating. I'm off for a lie down[/p][/quote]Nail on the head springs to mind,How right you are dearymeee, We have allowed,and bent over backwards to encourage a culture to take,take,take from the state without looking to give anything in return. I do feel sorry for the sikhs,hindu etc who are good,clean and hard working people who often get tarred with the same brush, Just look at Pakistan as a country,why on earth would anyone think its offspring would be any different.[/p][/quote]Your comments are offensive. I have Pakistani friends who studied hard and work hard to drive nice cars. You forget too that a number of families bought property at rock bottom prices and made incredible profits in the last bubble. Some people will be making their money through illegal means - that I accept - after all criminality has no borders! - but your nasty assumption that no Pakistani could possibly be legitimately successful labels you a stupid, racist, and sexist bigot. I'm sure James Caan would agree with me....[/p][/quote]'Racist' is a very easy word to shout when you are trying to discredit someone. I am not racist but I do live in the real world and I have noticed that different races have different ways of living. The nice, colourful parts of those differences are embraced with open arms and celebrated as 'culture'. The bad differences have to be ignored as to point out anyones faults is considered 'racist'. Mrs Walker, I am sure you are a nice enough person who sees the good in everybody, but are you blind to the wrongdoing thats going on? Is James Caan a Pakistani? I had no idea, nor is it relevant to anything I wrote in my last post. There are many successful Pakistanis who are completely legitimate. Caan may well be one of those. My assertation was that every Pakistani dominated area is a dump. That, I'm afraid, is a fact. If you drive around these areas at 1 in the afternoon, as I do, you will find that the gentleman driving the £70k car is not a doctor or a lawyer. He is a man under 25 and prescribes only one medicine. To suggest that these people have made their money through astute property dealings is one of the most laughable things I've read in a while. Oh, and if I'm a sexist than what does that make the entire Muslim community?[/p][/quote]Spot on,all these bleeding heart 'lefties' are so against racism and sexism and homophobia yet support Islam ???? Homosexuality is illegal still in some muslim countries and punishable by death,very tolerant.Sexism is rife in these countries where women can be whipped with a cane to within and inchof their life or stoned to death, just for being alone in a room with a male who is not a relative, how very tolerant and as for racist ?? Who on this planet can live with muslims side by side in peace ? No one Mrs Walker, absolutely no one.[/p][/quote]I do, and have done all the time I've lived in innercity Bradford. The oppression of women is a cultural phenomenon, rather than a religious one. The prophet Mohammed's first wife was a business woman and many of the muslim women I meet have jobs - many of them are professionals; managers, teachers, pharmacists. There is a very strong work ethic in that community, and an understanding of the importance of education.[/p][/quote]How very selective with your answer you are Walker,Which culture chooses to stone women to death? You state that you do live in inner-city Bradford,could this be the root of the problem Mrs Walker?After all would it really be in your best interests to openly question Islam/Pakistani youths/Drug/gun crimes etc,After all and you well know not toeing the party line would see you going down the same way as Manningham ward Labour club and the upper globe,I fail to see any other reason for you to constantly deny truth. You are out of touch,deluded and your thinking is plain dangerous.Do you ever bring up the subject of the oppression of women when talking to the people of your area?I presume there must be a mosque locally to you if as you say you do,you live within the city centre,Have you ever spoke them and raised concerns about drugs/gun crime,crash for cash and all the rest of the goodies that can be found in asian areas?Ill bet not!You know where your bred is buttered and its just easier for you to adopt a policy of ignore,deny,continue ..[/p][/quote]You don't live here, you don't talk to people and you don't want to know what they think. You're a rude and tedious bigot with your own anti-muslim agenda and it's pointless discussing anything with you because your preconceptions are too embedded. The people that I talk to are more than happy to discuss those issues. The key word is 'discuss'. You don't understand that concept though. Hence the futility of trying to communicate with you. A policy of 'ignore, deny, continue'? Look in the mirror, EDL boy. Look in the mirror.[/p][/quote]what is racist Mrs walker about stating what happened to Manningham ward Labour club? Does questioning why women are stoned to death in certain Islamic countries make me a member of the EDL Mrs Walker? And of course your old favorite,because ive mentioned drug/gun crimes i am a bigot! Your sounding a tadge like Gordon Brown when he went campaigning in Lancashire,Then again you have plenty in common with the Labour party..... Ignore,deny,continue ! hahaha richmondbull
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9:19am Wed 28 Sep 11

Willard says...

I am saddened by this whole wate of public money. So this should have been linked to the opening of the City Park....Yawn....at least it wil be a nice pla ce for the unmeployed to eat their 60p sausage rolls from Greggs. I am futher saddened by the lack of Yorkshireness in the whole thing, how do we expect to attract big investment and qulity jobs like they have in Leeds when the first thing people think of when they hear the name Bradford is giant onion bhaji. It should have been a giant pork pie or hat that is offensive to certain members of our community than a giant meat and onion pie. I am most concerned about the direct comments that suggest that all sections of the communit are the same. The first time I was beaten up badly it was a lad who was Bangladeshi, do I think all people from this place are thugs? do I now have friends who are decent hard working family men from this part of India..yes I do. We know that our Asian neighbours arrived here in the 50's and they are part of us now, so time to be a bit more Yorkshire I think. But please parents of all backgrounds, bring your kids up right, give em manners, make them strive to be better...maybe they will become good councillors and stop wating our time and money on crazy projects. Now I am off for a sneaky kebab at the Kashmir
I am saddened by this whole wate of public money. So this should have been linked to the opening of the City Park....Yawn....at least it wil be a nice pla ce for the unmeployed to eat their 60p sausage rolls from Greggs. I am futher saddened by the lack of Yorkshireness in the whole thing, how do we expect to attract big investment and qulity jobs like they have in Leeds when the first thing people think of when they hear the name Bradford is giant onion bhaji. It should have been a giant pork pie or hat that is offensive to certain members of our community than a giant meat and onion pie. I am most concerned about the direct comments that suggest that all sections of the communit are the same. The first time I was beaten up badly it was a lad who was Bangladeshi, do I think all people from this place are thugs? do I now have friends who are decent hard working family men from this part of India..yes I do. We know that our Asian neighbours arrived here in the 50's and they are part of us now, so time to be a bit more Yorkshire I think. But please parents of all backgrounds, bring your kids up right, give em manners, make them strive to be better...maybe they will become good councillors and stop wating our time and money on crazy projects. Now I am off for a sneaky kebab at the Kashmir Willard
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3:29pm Wed 28 Sep 11

john.c says...

Mrs Walker, you mentioned the prophet mohammeds first wife was a business woman but you've not mentioned the 9 year old girl he married, how come ? Thats me a racist, EDL bigot now also eh ? Typical socialist, you love freedom of speech until people start saying things you don't agree with, even your beloved Labour party have admitted the ' multi-cultural' experiment has failed and its open door policy on immigration was wrong. You keep on defending the indefensible.
Mrs Walker, you mentioned the prophet mohammeds first wife was a business woman but you've not mentioned the 9 year old girl he married, how come ? Thats me a racist, EDL bigot now also eh ? Typical socialist, you love freedom of speech until people start saying things you don't agree with, even your beloved Labour party have admitted the ' multi-cultural' experiment has failed and its open door policy on immigration was wrong. You keep on defending the indefensible. john.c
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