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Documents issued by Government department reveal timetable for policy


Bradford is set to elect its first mayor on May 3, 2012, documents slipped out by the Government have revealed.

If all goes according to plan, voters will pick an executive figurehead for the city with powers similar to London’s Boris Johnson.

That could include control over transport, housing, regeneration and planning.

The Conservatives were committed in their manifesto to holding a speedy “referendum day” on the issue in Bradford and England’s other 11 major cities but after the election they appeared to withdraw from that pledge explaining they would have to take account of the costs involved.

But in the Department for Communities and Local Government’s draft structural reform plan, quietly released while MPs left Westminster for the summer recess, the timetable for electing mayors is set at May, 2012.

But that is “subject to confirmatory referendums and full scrutiny by elected councillors” it adds and officials refused to say when that would happen.

They come as Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles – the former leader of Bradford Council – announced proposals to allow the public to veto large council tax rises.

He revealed council tax bills across England had doubled since 1997, pushing the average bill for a band D home to £120 a month.

Coalition ministers have pledged to work with councils to freeze council tax next year but Mr Pickles said he wants to prevent bills soaring down the line by giving local people the final say.

That means an end to the central government system of council tax capping. Instead any increases planned above a set ceiling – expected to be the rate of inflation – would trigger an automatic referendum of electors.

Residents would be asked to choose between the proposed rise and a “shadow budget”, which the council must also prepare within the defined limit. A no vote would leave councils having to refund taxpayers or give a credit at the end of the tax year.

Mr Pickles said: “If councils want to increase council tax further, they will have to prove the case to the electorate. Let the people decide.”


Comments(49)

albion says...
6:31am Fri 30 Jul 10

Send in the clowns.

albion says...
6:31am Fri 30 Jul 10

Send in the clowns.

puddin says...
8:19am Fri 30 Jul 10

Democracy at work then

bcfc1903 says...
9:37am Fri 30 Jul 10

I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long.



John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.

anawaz says...
11:46am Fri 30 Jul 10

Another gimik by the cons
Surely we have elected representation; they are called councillers..
Having 2 captains at the helm never works

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
12:42pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?
Democracy and the rules thereof DEMAND that each person or group have the same rights.
Unlike the T&A who seem to only want to give voice to certain sections of society and then only if they agree with them or would incur the wrath of every PC group and do-gooder which has brought this once fine country to it's knees.

Alex_Ross says...
1:15pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Have elected Mayors worked anywhere but London? I think they suit London fine but I'm not sure other cities require an elected Mayor - London is unique due to it's size and structure.

Bradford has been let down the last nine years due to the Council (it had generous funding from the Labour government that it wasted), but it can still be tempered by the other parties and so on.

Put one person in charge for four years who is terrible and we could end up like Doncaster where they're being constantly audited and on the verge of being taken over by the government to stop it collapsing completely into ruin.

albion says...
1:19pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Alex_Ross wrote:
Have elected Mayors worked anywhere but London? I think they suit London fine but I'm not sure other cities require an elected Mayor - London is unique due to it's size and structure.

Bradford has been let down the last nine years due to the Council (it had generous funding from the Labour government that it wasted), but it can still be tempered by the other parties and so on.

Put one person in charge for four years who is terrible and we could end up like Doncaster where they're being constantly audited and on the verge of being taken over by the government to stop it collapsing completely into ruin.
Have to agree with you on that one young Rossie (thats a first).

albion says...
1:22pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?
Democracy and the rules thereof DEMAND that each person or group have the same rights.
Unlike the T&A who seem to only want to give voice to certain sections of society and then only if they agree with them or would incur the wrath of every PC group and do-gooder which has brought this once fine country to it's knees.
"I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?"
Very doubtful!

anawaz says...
1:26pm Fri 30 Jul 10

albion wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups? Democracy and the rules thereof DEMAND that each person or group have the same rights. Unlike the T&A who seem to only want to give voice to certain sections of society and then only if they agree with them or would incur the wrath of every PC group and do-gooder which has brought this once fine country to it's knees.
"I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?" Very doubtful!
If by all groups you want to include the racists and those who incite terror; then I hope not

albion says...
1:32pm Fri 30 Jul 10

anawaz wrote:
albion wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups? Democracy and the rules thereof DEMAND that each person or group have the same rights. Unlike the T&A who seem to only want to give voice to certain sections of society and then only if they agree with them or would incur the wrath of every PC group and do-gooder which has brought this once fine country to it's knees.
"I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?" Very doubtful!
If by all groups you want to include the racists and those who incite terror; then I hope not
That puts you out then.

anawaz says...
1:37pm Fri 30 Jul 10

albion wrote:
anawaz wrote:
albion wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups? Democracy and the rules thereof DEMAND that each person or group have the same rights. Unlike the T&A who seem to only want to give voice to certain sections of society and then only if they agree with them or would incur the wrath of every PC group and do-gooder which has brought this once fine country to it's knees.
"I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?" Very doubtful!
If by all groups you want to include the racists and those who incite terror; then I hope not
That puts you out then.
It wasnt me who made the remark last week... cast your mind back to the article around the Muslim peace works...
enough said

albion says...
2:19pm Fri 30 Jul 10

anawaz wrote:
albion wrote:
anawaz wrote:
albion wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups? Democracy and the rules thereof DEMAND that each person or group have the same rights. Unlike the T&A who seem to only want to give voice to certain sections of society and then only if they agree with them or would incur the wrath of every PC group and do-gooder which has brought this once fine country to it's knees.
"I wonder if the new democratically elected mayor will be for the 'freedom of speech' and 'right to demonstrate peacefully' for ALL and not just selected groups?" Very doubtful!
If by all groups you want to include the racists and those who incite terror; then I hope not
That puts you out then.
It wasnt me who made the remark last week... cast your mind back to the article around the Muslim peace works...
enough said
Oh whatever you refer to, if it was me it is whats expected from me (I dont deny things unless they are untrue).

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
2:43pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Aki?
If so then I think we both agree by ALL we mean ALL. You surely stand for the right to free speech and to demonstarte PEACEFULLY.
Nobody can condone the actions, thought process or gathering of either of the type of group you mentioned but by the same token they do have the same rights as right-minded folk who would like to also have a voice and by that they have the right to speak out on their beliefs and not be attacked for it. It is speech and peaceful demo, it isn't bomb-making terrorists or molotov throwing thugs I am speaking of.
It was the way the whole debate went last week, which basically was closed down because people cannot discuss without discrimination.

anawaz says...
3:01pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Aki? If so then I think we both agree by ALL we mean ALL. You surely stand for the right to free speech and to demonstarte PEACEFULLY. Nobody can condone the actions, thought process or gathering of either of the type of group you mentioned but by the same token they do have the same rights as right-minded folk who would like to also have a voice and by that they have the right to speak out on their beliefs and not be attacked for it. It is speech and peaceful demo, it isn't bomb-making terrorists or molotov throwing thugs I am speaking of. It was the way the whole debate went last week, which basically was closed down because people cannot discuss without discrimination.
I agree with you if all it includes is a speech and a peaceful demo... but as it has been shown in dispaches this has never been the case for the EDL (I assume you are talking about)
At ALL their demos there has been racist chanting... I hope you agree this is unacceptable
I am more than happy I can have a discussion with someone; check out this link around some EDL members (i say some and not all but that is the point; this platform allows only the extreme)

http://www.channel4.
com/search/?q=edl

AidyF says...
3:54pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Can the T&A please allow comments on one EDL article? All that's happening is stories like this with potentially huge implications for Bradford are getting swamped by all this irrelevant chatter.
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Either allow comment on all articles or don't allow comment at all, while some of the views put forward may be rather unpleasant, you can't just sweep them under the rug. This no comment rule on EDL articles is simply wrong.
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In London, the big parties back a candidate but those candidates aren't the life and blood of the parties, Boris Johnson is a known critic of many Tory policies right now. Doncaster elected an avowed English Democrat, it was never going to work with such a tribal chap. And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there.

Hopefully in Bradford you don't just see each party nominate a councillor to represent them, it'd be nice if we had a number of strong independent candidates. I think there's a lot to be said on transport, housing, regeneration and planning so if we do elect a mayor, can we please have candidates with Bradford in mind rather than their parties?

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
4:05pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I have little or no knowledge of EDL, their members or their actions and a similar view of UAF ANF etc. The point I make is that neither the T&A, the loudest shouters from any political organistion or group or the British Armed forces should be able to stop anyone from practising their rights to freedom of speech and thought. I am championing that and that only and I disliked immensely the fact that a local paper feels it is rightful to denounce any group prior to an event. Especially when it APPEARS, I use that word advisedly, that it only ever really relates to certain sections of society. I cannot make a factaul statement on the T&A's political stance overall but I feel as though by coming out with the announcement they have done they are 'taking sides' which is something they do not appear to have done when so-called 'hate-clerics' ( getting a bit daily mail now) have held rallies and forums across the city.
Live and let live, leave us alone with the meddling and people WILL get along because we have to. Bring issues to attention and people start to get their backs up and want to fling mud, bricks,stones at perceived enemies, not the true enemy.

albion says...
5:01pm Fri 30 Jul 10

AidyF wrote:
Can the T&A please allow comments on one EDL article? All that's happening is stories like this with potentially huge implications for Bradford are getting swamped by all this irrelevant chatter.
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Either allow comment on all articles or don't allow comment at all, while some of the views put forward may be rather unpleasant, you can't just sweep them under the rug. This no comment rule on EDL articles is simply wrong.
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In London, the big parties back a candidate but those candidates aren't the life and blood of the parties, Boris Johnson is a known critic of many Tory policies right now. Doncaster elected an avowed English Democrat, it was never going to work with such a tribal chap. And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there.

Hopefully in Bradford you don't just see each party nominate a councillor to represent them, it'd be nice if we had a number of strong independent candidates. I think there's a lot to be said on transport, housing, regeneration and planning so if we do elect a mayor, can we please have candidates with Bradford in mind rather than their parties?
"And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there"
Shouldnt that be David?

AidyF says...
6:06pm Fri 30 Jul 10

albion wrote:
AidyF wrote:
Can the T&A please allow comments on one EDL article? All that's happening is stories like this with potentially huge implications for Bradford are getting swamped by all this irrelevant chatter.
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Either allow comment on all articles or don't allow comment at all, while some of the views put forward may be rather unpleasant, you can't just sweep them under the rug. This no comment rule on EDL articles is simply wrong.
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In London, the big parties back a candidate but those candidates aren't the life and blood of the parties, Boris Johnson is a known critic of many Tory policies right now. Doncaster elected an avowed English Democrat, it was never going to work with such a tribal chap. And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there.

Hopefully in Bradford you don't just see each party nominate a councillor to represent them, it'd be nice if we had a number of strong independent candidates. I think there's a lot to be said on transport, housing, regeneration and planning so if we do elect a mayor, can we please have candidates with Bradford in mind rather than their parties?
"And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there"
Shouldnt that be David?
Nope, he's Phil Davies' father.

albion says...
6:17pm Fri 30 Jul 10

AidyF wrote:
albion wrote:
AidyF wrote:
Can the T&A please allow comments on one EDL article? All that's happening is stories like this with potentially huge implications for Bradford are getting swamped by all this irrelevant chatter.
.
Either allow comment on all articles or don't allow comment at all, while some of the views put forward may be rather unpleasant, you can't just sweep them under the rug. This no comment rule on EDL articles is simply wrong.
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In London, the big parties back a candidate but those candidates aren't the life and blood of the parties, Boris Johnson is a known critic of many Tory policies right now. Doncaster elected an avowed English Democrat, it was never going to work with such a tribal chap. And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there.

Hopefully in Bradford you don't just see each party nominate a councillor to represent them, it'd be nice if we had a number of strong independent candidates. I think there's a lot to be said on transport, housing, regeneration and planning so if we do elect a mayor, can we please have candidates with Bradford in mind rather than their parties?
"And was he not related to Phil Davies MP? Nuff said there"
Shouldnt that be David?
Nope, he's Phil Davies' father.
You are right, I mixed them up there, apologies.

Up with the partridge says...
7:15pm Fri 30 Jul 10

anawaz wrote:
Another gimik by the cons Surely we have elected representation; they are called councillers.. Having 2 captains at the helm never works
That's the trouble. You allow the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker to have any authority and you get the Westfield saga. You need professionals running organisations and big cities - not rank amateurs

Colin Allcars says...
7:36pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Unfortunately an election for Lord Mayor in Bradford will only result in sectarian voting. We've seen how votes have been rigged in Bradford and voters have had their vote made by others. We've seen how tories win seats in 'deprived' wards due to the village the candidate comes from, not their policies. An elected Lord Mayor for bradford would be amother devisive nail in this divided city

Foolroy says...
7:49pm Fri 30 Jul 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long.



John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.
I concur. Excellent choice.

bcfc1903 says...
8:40pm Fri 30 Jul 10

anawaz wrote:
Another gimik by the cons Surely we have elected representation; they are called councillers.. Having 2 captains at the helm never works
You wouldn't have two captains steering the good ship Bradford,just the Mayor,as for the councillors,most are a waste of space who don't give two hoots about the City of Bradford,much better to have one mayor in charge that does.

I would ban the EDL demo.

Collos says...
9:59pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Lets ban the EDL and lets ban the NF and then lets ban anybody who disa grees with the government and then lets get rid of Jews sound familiar.
Because the moment you stop a free press( agree Bradford hasn't got one)and the ability to have free speech then you end up throwing democracy down the drain.

albion says...
10:44pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Collos wrote:
Lets ban the EDL and lets ban the NF and then lets ban anybody who disa grees with the government and then lets get rid of Jews sound familiar.
Because the moment you stop a free press( agree Bradford hasn't got one)and the ability to have free speech then you end up throwing democracy down the drain.
Once those that the EDL claim to oppose gain power anywhere thats how things are.

bcfc1903 says...
12:33am Sat 31 Jul 10

Collos wrote:
Lets ban the EDL and lets ban the NF and then lets ban anybody who disa grees with the government and then lets get rid of Jews sound familiar. Because the moment you stop a free press( agree Bradford hasn't got one)and the ability to have free speech then you end up throwing democracy down the drain.
Normally i'd agree that whats good for the Muslim extremists who turn up at the returning home troops marches should be good for the EDL who want to demonstrate in Bradford,in fact banning such a march is just as un British as banning the burka,but as a proud Bradfordian,the last thing this city needs is more disorder and the terrible national headlines that go with it,so on this occasion the EDL demo should be banned.

Up with the partridge says...
6:26pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Foolroy wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long. John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.
I concur. Excellent choice.
Pennington? What does he know about running a city? He's an ex DJ isn't he? Why not get Jimmy Saville if that's the criterion?

steveinbradford says...
7:46pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Ha Ha, that's a joke. So now we need to find some councillors that are worth electing, because the ones we have now are pretty useless.

steveinbradford says...
7:51pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Up with the partridge wrote:
Foolroy wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long. John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.
I concur. Excellent choice.
Pennington? What does he know about running a city? He's an ex DJ isn't he? Why not get Jimmy Saville if that's the criterion?
Now John would be quite good, he has very good feelings for Bradford, but I have to admit i feel that as a buisness man his track record is fast turnaround to make a profit, therefore showing that he is only out to make either money, or improve his image - we need a genuine Bradfordian, one who was born in the city, to make a difference. No foreigners faking it or there to boost their CV's - something we've not seen for a while.

bcfc1903 says...
11:56am Sun 1 Aug 10

Up with the partridge wrote:
Foolroy wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long. John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.
I concur. Excellent choice.
Pennington? What does he know about running a city? He's an ex DJ isn't he? Why not get Jimmy Saville if that's the criterion?
It wasn,t the criterion lol,John Pennington has some fine ideas for Bradford but spinning records isn't one of them.
Crossrail and the refurbishing of the Odeon building form part of his vision for the future of Bradford.

bcfc1903 says...
12:06pm Sun 1 Aug 10

steveinbradford wrote:
Up with the partridge wrote:
Foolroy wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long. John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.
I concur. Excellent choice.
Pennington? What does he know about running a city? He's an ex DJ isn't he? Why not get Jimmy Saville if that's the criterion?
Now John would be quite good, he has very good feelings for Bradford, but I have to admit i feel that as a buisness man his track record is fast turnaround to make a profit, therefore showing that he is only out to make either money, or improve his image - we need a genuine Bradfordian, one who was born in the city, to make a difference. No foreigners faking it or there to boost their CV's - something we've not seen for a while.
i've no idea where Mr Pennington was born but his superb renovaton of the Midland Hotel in Bradford along with the Tramshed in Saltaire looks great on his cv.Making money makes the world go round,if he's been successful in that regard ,all the better.John Pennington has got some great ideas on how to move the City of Bradford forward and if he stands in two years time he,ll be getting my vote.

Up with the partridge says...
4:48pm Sun 1 Aug 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
steveinbradford wrote:
Up with the partridge wrote:
Foolroy wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: I like the idea of an elected mayor,maybe with one person in charge Bradford could actually get some of the proposed schemes built instead of the usual we can't do attitude that has prevailed in this city's council chambers for far too long. John Pennington would be a good choice for the first Bradford elected mayor.
I concur. Excellent choice.
Pennington? What does he know about running a city? He's an ex DJ isn't he? Why not get Jimmy Saville if that's the criterion?
Now John would be quite good, he has very good feelings for Bradford, but I have to admit i feel that as a buisness man his track record is fast turnaround to make a profit, therefore showing that he is only out to make either money, or improve his image - we need a genuine Bradfordian, one who was born in the city, to make a difference. No foreigners faking it or there to boost their CV's - something we've not seen for a while.
i've no idea where Mr Pennington was born but his superb renovaton of the Midland Hotel in Bradford along with the Tramshed in Saltaire looks great on his cv.Making money makes the world go round,if he's been successful in that regard ,all the better.John Pennington has got some great ideas on how to move the City of Bradford forward and if he stands in two years time he,ll be getting my vote.
Why not vote for that guy that owns that massive garden centre at Tong if making money is the criterion used.

bcfc1903 says...
5:34pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Is he standing ?

albion says...
5:56pm Sun 1 Aug 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
Is he standing ?
No! it isnt yet official that there will even be an election.

bcfc1903 says...
6:04pm Sun 1 Aug 10

albion wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: Is he standing ?
No! it isnt yet official that there will even be an election.
I'm sure it will happen,i believe it's official Conservative goverment policy ....

Colin Allcars says...
8:05pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford

Up with the partridge says...
11:20pm Sun 1 Aug 10

A muslim mayor for Bradford - that just about sums it up

bcfc1903 says...
8:07am Mon 2 Aug 10

Colin Allcars wrote:
Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.

albion says...
11:02am Mon 2 Aug 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote:
Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
That would only become evident after a term in office, the best PERSON isnt always the best candidate.

bcfc1903 says...
1:38pm Mon 2 Aug 10

albion wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote: Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
That would only become evident after a term in office, the best PERSON isnt always the best candidate.
That just sounds bizarre...

albion says...
2:19pm Mon 2 Aug 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
albion wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote: Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
That would only become evident after a term in office, the best PERSON isnt always the best candidate.
That just sounds bizarre...
Well some people come across as presentable or genial whereas the dull little quiet person might well be the more able, good examples are to be found in some of the American presidential elections.

bcfc1903 says...
5:03pm Mon 2 Aug 10

I can't imagine a dull little quiet person running for anything other than the bus.

Colin Allcars says...
8:46pm Mon 2 Aug 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote: Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
Sorry, are you saying that Little Horton is 'asian'. Tell the residents around Canterbury Avenue, they didn't know they were all asian!
Now if we are discussing councillors in Bradford Moor who don't talk about their constituants but 'the community' which ever party flag they hide behind. Bradford post ridiculous results for the constituances and this is due to sectarian voting. Hence 'deprived' areas selecting tories or candidates who change parties for their own selfish needs

mrs walker says...
10:51pm Mon 2 Aug 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote:
Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
"The best MAN for the job would win regardless of the pigment of HIS skin"???
.
We appear to be ignoring the mayoral potential of more than half the population with that statement... :-/

albion says...
6:27am Tue 3 Aug 10

mrs walker wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote:
Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
"The best MAN for the job would win regardless of the pigment of HIS skin"???
.
We appear to be ignoring the mayoral potential of more than half the population with that statement... :-/
Which is exactly why I emphasised the word "PERSON" in my reply.

bcfc1903 says...
8:05am Tue 3 Aug 10

mrs walker wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Colin Allcars wrote: Even if Pennington was the best candidate, any muslim candidate standing would win simply due to the sectarian voting that is common practise in parts of bradford
Rubbish,the leader of Bradford council..councillor Greenwood represents little Horton.Why bring race into it,i'm sure the best man for the job would win regardless of the pigment of his skin.
"The best MAN for the job would win regardless of the pigment of HIS skin"??? . We appear to be ignoring the mayoral potential of more than half the population with that statement... :-/
When making that comment i had John Pennington in mind !!!

Billcliff says...
4:22pm Wed 4 Aug 10

How sad or bigoted must some people be that despite any facts to the contrary they still pour forth their racist comments. None of our Bradford MP`s are Muslim. Despite the fact that Muslims have stood in wards with a large Muslim population they have not allowed religion to bias their votes. The leader of our council representing a largely Muslim ward is recognised by all parts of the community as doing a good job isn`t a Muslim.
Most people in Badford thankfully have a balanced view and would welcome an elected Mayor and would vote for the canditate rather than a religion

bcfc1903 says...
8:31pm Thu 5 Aug 10

Billcliff wrote:
How sad or bigoted must some people be that despite any facts to the contrary they still pour forth their racist comments. None of our Bradford MP`s are Muslim. Despite the fact that Muslims have stood in wards with a large Muslim population they have not allowed religion to bias their votes. The leader of our council representing a largely Muslim ward is recognised by all parts of the community as doing a good job isn`t a Muslim. Most people in Badford thankfully have a balanced view and would welcome an elected Mayor and would vote for the canditate rather than a religion
Totally agree Billcliff,well said !!!!


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