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6:30am Monday 8th February 2010 in Bradford By PA News
The Muslim community could do more to help identify would-be jihadis, a senior police officer said today.
Sir Norman Bettison, the Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, said that while he is conscious there is a fine line between winning the support of the Muslim community and alienating it, there was also a need for the community to work with the police.
“I’m looking for the community to work more closely with the police in identifying young people they have concerns about in terms of the people that they’re mixing with, the sort of websites they’re going on to and the material they’re reading,” he said.
“Now that information can only come from the community itself.”
Sir Norman was speaking during an interview for the BBC Two series Generation Jihad – the first episode of which is screened tonight.
He said the Muslim community could do more to help identify potential terrorists in its midst. He said: “I think we have to be alert and conscious of the risk that’s present and be prepared to share information. The community as a whole could do more and the Muslim community is a part of that.”
Three of the 7/7 London bombers came from West Yorkshire and the area is also home to Hamaad Munshi, Britain’s youngest convicted terrorist.
Sir Norman, the Association of Chief Police Officers’ representative for policy on tackling violent extremism, said “Generation Jihad” was likely to remain a problem for some time.
“I think it’s a generation of treatment to prevent the infection spreading and I think that will take us probably 20 years,” he said.
The series, presented by Peter Taylor, looks at why young men have turned their backs on the country where they were born.
Although they represent a minority of the Muslim community, they now constitute the single biggest threat to security, Mr Taylor said.
Comments(76)
albion
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10:41am Mon 8 Feb 10
Avro wrote:Exactly! As many of them claim to be loyal to Islam above anything else what can you expect?
Quite true, but it will never happen, band of brothers and all that!
sexysam
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10:47am Mon 8 Feb 10
albion
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11:13am Mon 8 Feb 10
sexysam wrote:The BNP doesnt threaten anyone and is a legitimate political party, therefore people have the choice of voting for them or not.
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
Rambo
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12:31pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Bone_idle18
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12:35pm Mon 8 Feb 10
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
sexysam
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12:40pm Mon 8 Feb 10
albion
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1:01pm Mon 8 Feb 10
sexysam wrote:So if he gave out leaflets on behalf of the green party would you fear them?
Like living a few doors away from the Gavan chap in Batley who got sent down for 12 yrs under the same legislation as Muslim extremist . Read what they found in his house. He was BNP activist
Iona Cortina
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1:07pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Mr Gummage
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1:17pm Mon 8 Feb 10
its johnny
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1:50pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Mr Gummage wrote:Judgement day?
I am not sure why now we, all of a sudden, have this differentiation between 'Muslim Extremists' and so-called 'Moderate Muslims'. I think this is not the way to handle the dangerous and ever present threat posed by followers of 'Jihad'. There is only one point to consider - you are either a muslim or you are not a muslim, there is no 'middle ground'. Look at the Leeds Bombers from Beeston and Dewsbury, there was absolutely NOTHING Extreme about them, their neighbours described them as 'Normal, pleaseant and appeared to be happy people' - they were muslims following what muslims believe, to rid the world of the infidel - who is the infidel- thats all non-muslims by the way, in case any of you politically correct followers are not sure what a muslim lives for. In addition, look at the muslim attack at Glasgow airport - there was nothing 'extreme' about the perpetrators - they were simply more muslims intent on casing death and destruction to the infidel. In actual fact, the muslims involved at the Glasgow airport were described by their neighbours as 'well-balanced, polite' and the driver of the 4 wheel drive vehicle who badly burned himself !! ha ha ha was actually a Doctor - you call these extremists - they are not - why don't you all wake up and see what is happening in this pathetic once great nation - it is coming to an end and sooner than you think.
denis court
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3:16pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina
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4:01pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet :
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
allannicho
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4:01pm Mon 8 Feb 10
albion
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4:09pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina wrote:So show us an example of them carrying out a terrorist bombing.
Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet :
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
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"Media whiteout following possible BNP bomb plot arrests"..
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This is not the first time BNP members have planned bombing campaigns targeting innocent civilians in the UK. In 17 April 1999, David Copeland launched a terrorist attack on the African community in Brixton.
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Looks like the vile British Nazi Party are no different then. And the media decided to 'block' this story when it broke. Wonder how many others have been caught without us knowing ? - wonder if the T&A would report on such matters ? {rolleyes}
albion
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4:11pm Mon 8 Feb 10
allannicho wrote:Exactly! But he WILL be able to say that he asked.
Dream on copper!
albion
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4:17pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina wrote:At the time of the David Copeland bombs he was Not a member of the BNP and was diagnosed as schizophrenic and working alone.
Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet :
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
.
"Media whiteout following possible BNP bomb plot arrests"..
.
This is not the first time BNP members have planned bombing campaigns targeting innocent civilians in the UK. In 17 April 1999, David Copeland launched a terrorist attack on the African community in Brixton.
.
Looks like the vile British Nazi Party are no different then. And the media decided to 'block' this story when it broke. Wonder how many others have been caught without us knowing ? - wonder if the T&A would report on such matters ? {rolleyes}
Jammy
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4:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina
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4:35pm Mon 8 Feb 10
jay 123
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4:37pm Mon 8 Feb 10
albion
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4:53pm Mon 8 Feb 10
jay 123 wrote:I certainly DONT do that and YOU cant even spell it!
To
Avro, Albion and all the other Racist vile scums that comment on here. It is people like you, whom add fuel to the fire everytime you comment. Is it any wonder this world is messed up with Vile scums like you whom tag everybody with the same label. Yes there are extremists white and blacks,etc. But there are also good people whom are patriotic and they include people of all faiths that want to make this world a better place by interacting with people of all races to make this world a better place to like in. Since you Vile scums are always sitting in front on a PC. I'm assuming you don't have much of a life, as otherwise you would go out and engage with people of all races. Keep masterbating in front of your Pc's.
jay 123
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5:00pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Jammy
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5:00pm Mon 8 Feb 10
jay 123 wrote:Its called freedom of speech,racism is something that only seems to work one way at the moment,and regarding your last sentence,thanks I will.
To Avro, Albion and all the other Racist vile scums that comment on here. It is people like you, whom add fuel to the fire everytime you comment. Is it any wonder this world is messed up with Vile scums like you whom tag everybody with the same label. Yes there are extremists white and blacks,etc. But there are also good people whom are patriotic and they include people of all faiths that want to make this world a better place by interacting with people of all races to make this world a better place to like in. Since you Vile scums are always sitting in front on a PC. I'm assuming you don't have much of a life, as otherwise you would go out and engage with people of all races. Keep masterbating in front of your Pc's.
Jammy
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5:00pm Mon 8 Feb 10
jay 123 wrote:Its called freedom of speech,racism is something that only seems to work one way at the moment,and regarding your last sentence,thanks I will.
To Avro, Albion and all the other Racist vile scums that comment on here. It is people like you, whom add fuel to the fire everytime you comment. Is it any wonder this world is messed up with Vile scums like you whom tag everybody with the same label. Yes there are extremists white and blacks,etc. But there are also good people whom are patriotic and they include people of all faiths that want to make this world a better place by interacting with people of all races to make this world a better place to like in. Since you Vile scums are always sitting in front on a PC. I'm assuming you don't have much of a life, as otherwise you would go out and engage with people of all races. Keep masterbating in front of your Pc's.
Bone_idle18
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5:17pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina wrote:How many innocent people in GB have died at the hands of BNP bombers?
Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet :
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
.
"Media whiteout following possible BNP bomb plot arrests"..
.
This is not the first time BNP members have planned bombing campaigns targeting innocent civilians in the UK. In 17 April 1999, David Copeland launched a terrorist attack on the African community in Brixton.
.
Looks like the vile British Nazi Party are no different then. And the media decided to 'block' this story when it broke. Wonder how many others have been caught without us knowing ? - wonder if the T&A would report on such matters ? {rolleyes}
its johnny
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5:17pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina
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5:24pm Mon 8 Feb 10
jay 123 wrote:Well said, Jay :)
To
Avro, Albion and all the other Racist vile scums that comment on here. It is people like you, whom add fuel to the fire everytime you comment. Is it any wonder this world is messed up with Vile scums like you whom tag everybody with the same label. Yes there are extremists white and blacks,etc. But there are also good people whom are patriotic and they include people of all faiths that want to make this world a better place by interacting with people of all races to make this world a better place to like in. Since you Vile scums are always sitting in front on a PC. I'm assuming you don't have much of a life, as otherwise you would go out and engage with people of all races. Keep masterbating in front of your Pc's.
Iona Cortina
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5:27pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Bone_idle18 wrote:More innocents have been killed by Communists and Zionists. How many did Hitler kill ? - how many did Pol Pot kill ? - how many did the vile Israeli terrorists like Sharon (and before him) kill ? - look up the massacres of Sabra and Shatila in Lebanon, then speak.
Iona Cortina wrote:How many innocent people in GB have died at the hands of BNP bombers?
Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet :
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
.
"Media whiteout following possible BNP bomb plot arrests"..
.
This is not the first time BNP members have planned bombing campaigns targeting innocent civilians in the UK. In 17 April 1999, David Copeland launched a terrorist attack on the African community in Brixton.
.
Looks like the vile British Nazi Party are no different then. And the media decided to 'block' this story when it broke. Wonder how many others have been caught without us knowing ? - wonder if the T&A would report on such matters ? {rolleyes}
I doubt people like David Copeland would be protected by the community.
The issue of Islamic extremists isn't about the odd nutter, it's about a fundamental issue throughout the world. Try an add up how many people have died as a result of Islamic terrorist attacks in the World and then try and justify it to yourself.
some people seem to go immediately on the attack when stories like this are published! "Why are you picking on us poor Muslims?", "it's all the west's fault", "the Zionist press are making it up" etc..
Surely outing extremists is a good idea, whether they are BNP, Muslim, animal rights or whatever? there are some seriously deluded people on here, I suspect some of the views that the police want to expose are shared by one or two contributors to this website!
Jammy
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5:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10
its johnny wrote:Sorry its all the excitement.
Did you have to mention that twice jammy.....What is albion to do he cant get it up no more
its johnny
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5:35pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Jammy wrote:Your on the wrong site then
its johnny wrote: Did you have to mention that twice jammy.....What is albion to do he cant get it up no moreSorry its all the excitement.
Bone_idle18
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5:46pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Iona Cortina wrote:So you are attempting to justify murder?
Bone_idle18 wrote:More innocents have been killed by Communists and Zionists. How many did Hitler kill ? - how many did Pol Pot kill ? - how many did the vile Israeli terrorists like Sharon (and before him) kill ? - look up the massacres of Sabra and Shatila in Lebanon, then speak.
Iona Cortina wrote:How many innocent people in GB have died at the hands of BNP bombers?
Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet :
sexysam wrote:Exactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
.
"Media whiteout following possible BNP bomb plot arrests"..
.
This is not the first time BNP members have planned bombing campaigns targeting innocent civilians in the UK. In 17 April 1999, David Copeland launched a terrorist attack on the African community in Brixton.
.
Looks like the vile British Nazi Party are no different then. And the media decided to 'block' this story when it broke. Wonder how many others have been caught without us knowing ? - wonder if the T&A would report on such matters ? {rolleyes}
I doubt people like David Copeland would be protected by the community.
The issue of Islamic extremists isn't about the odd nutter, it's about a fundamental issue throughout the world. Try an add up how many people have died as a result of Islamic terrorist attacks in the World and then try and justify it to yourself.
some people seem to go immediately on the attack when stories like this are published! "Why are you picking on us poor Muslims?", "it's all the west's fault", "the Zionist press are making it up" etc..
Surely outing extremists is a good idea, whether they are BNP, Muslim, animal rights or whatever? there are some seriously deluded people on here, I suspect some of the views that the police want to expose are shared by one or two contributors to this website!
jay 123
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5:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Bone_idle18
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6:00pm Mon 8 Feb 10
jay 123 wrote:Normal?
Thanks Iona Cortina :P.
It's nice to know there some good normal people like yourself on this site and not Vile Nutters and Scums. That are looking for any excuse to express their toilet thoughts.
Michael Manus
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6:14pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Mr Gummage wrote:and you wonder why so many people are turning to vote for the BNP. All it would take now is the idiotic extremists to pull another stunt and the BNP will be singing in election glory with a landslide win. No matter where you are you can't help but hear anything but praise for the BNP at the moment and its the Islamic extremists who are pushing people to think this way. A real shame for this once great country.
I am not sure why now we, all of a sudden, have this differentiation between 'Muslim Extremists' and so-called 'Moderate Muslims'. I think this is not the way to handle the dangerous and ever present threat posed by followers of 'Jihad'. There is only one point to consider - you are either a muslim or you are not a muslim, there is no 'middle ground'. Look at the Leeds Bombers from Beeston and Dewsbury, there was absolutely NOTHING Extreme about them, their neighbours described them as 'Normal, pleaseant and appeared to be happy people' - they were muslims following what muslims believe, to rid the world of the infidel - who is the infidel- thats all non-muslims by the way, in case any of you politically correct followers are not sure what a muslim lives for. In addition, look at the muslim attack at Glasgow airport - there was nothing 'extreme' about the perpetrators - they were simply more muslims intent on casing death and destruction to the infidel. In actual fact, the muslims involved at the Glasgow airport were described by their neighbours as 'well-balanced, polite' and the driver of the 4 wheel drive vehicle who badly burned himself !! ha ha ha was actually a Doctor - you call these extremists - they are not - why don't you all wake up and see what is happening in this pathetic once great nation - it is coming to an end and sooner than you think.
richmondbull
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7:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Michael Manus wrote:The govt has bent over backwards as to not to offend the muslims,yet the normal run of the mill white working class man shouldnt get offended when some of these people take to the capital with rucksacks containing high explosive!!Im sorry but in my view these people have been appeased for too long,One positive aspect regarding this article is that at last commonsense prevails and even the police are now coming out in the open and saying this is a muslim problem,of course to the obivous cries of racism,What has the country done so bad as to deserve these people??? No doubt this post makes me a racist iona??
Mr Gummage wrote: I am not sure why now we, all of a sudden, have this differentiation between 'Muslim Extremists' and so-called 'Moderate Muslims'. I think this is not the way to handle the dangerous and ever present threat posed by followers of 'Jihad'. There is only one point to consider - you are either a muslim or you are not a muslim, there is no 'middle ground'. Look at the Leeds Bombers from Beeston and Dewsbury, there was absolutely NOTHING Extreme about them, their neighbours described them as 'Normal, pleaseant and appeared to be happy people' - they were muslims following what muslims believe, to rid the world of the infidel - who is the infidel- thats all non-muslims by the way, in case any of you politically correct followers are not sure what a muslim lives for. In addition, look at the muslim attack at Glasgow airport - there was nothing 'extreme' about the perpetrators - they were simply more muslims intent on casing death and destruction to the infidel. In actual fact, the muslims involved at the Glasgow airport were described by their neighbours as 'well-balanced, polite' and the driver of the 4 wheel drive vehicle who badly burned himself !! ha ha ha was actually a Doctor - you call these extremists - they are not - why don't you all wake up and see what is happening in this pathetic once great nation - it is coming to an end and sooner than you think.and you wonder why so many people are turning to vote for the BNP. All it would take now is the idiotic extremists to pull another stunt and the BNP will be singing in election glory with a landslide win. No matter where you are you can't help but hear anything but praise for the BNP at the moment and its the Islamic extremists who are pushing people to think this way. A real shame for this once great country.
lazybeat
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8:47pm Mon 8 Feb 10
albion wrote:How many died from the bombings in Iraq- more than 600,000. Don't give ,me the innocence stories here. As it was mentioned before all races have good and bad. If you even looked at the past Britain itself raped, pilaged robbed and conquered so many countries. What do you call that. Forget what the BNP has ever done look at the history first.
sexysam wrote: This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as wellThe BNP doesnt threaten anyone and is a legitimate political party, therefore people have the choice of voting for them or not. As for its supporters, if you look into the membership of ANY political party (or indeed the people who always vote for a particular party) you will find people with criminal convictions. "A handful of extremists" can wreak a great deal of havoc given the chance.
ms walker
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9:14pm Mon 8 Feb 10
albion
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9:15pm Mon 8 Feb 10
lazybeat wrote:Not relevant to this report.
albion wrote:How many died from the bombings in Iraq- more than 600,000. Don't give ,me the innocence stories here. As it was mentioned before all races have good and bad. If you even looked at the past Britain itself raped, pilaged robbed and conquered so many countries. What do you call that. Forget what the BNP has ever done look at the history first.
sexysam wrote: This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as wellThe BNP doesnt threaten anyone and is a legitimate political party, therefore people have the choice of voting for them or not. As for its supporters, if you look into the membership of ANY political party (or indeed the people who always vote for a particular party) you will find people with criminal convictions. "A handful of extremists" can wreak a great deal of havoc given the chance.
albion
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9:59pm Mon 8 Feb 10
ms walker wrote:This isnt about race it is about religious intolerance and the Police reaction to threats and acts of terrorism and the fundamentalising of individuals in order to recruit them to carry out said acts.
Bad headline, T&A - the 'War on Terror' is a Bushism which, taking into account the appalling war record of our American cousins, exposes the hypocrisy of their foreign policy over the years.
That said, each and every one of us has a responsibility to our fellow humans, to do what is right to protect and uphold the laws that we live under in this country. Yes, we have Muslim terrorists, but it's a minority - most people are just trying to do their best for their families and get by. Yes we have white supremacists with weapons caches, just waiting for the moment to use it - the chemist brewing ricin in county Durham in June last year being a prime example - but similarly, most white families are just trying to get by too.
There's no race any better than any other, there's just individuals, good and bad, and we should challenge bigotry and extremism wherever it lies...even if it is in our own communities. Isn't that so, Albion, Denis, Mr Gummage......?
ms walker
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10:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10
albion wrote:I think the clue was in '...even in our own communities...' Albion.
ms walker wrote:This isnt about race it is about religious intolerance and the Police reaction to threats and acts of terrorism and the fundamentalising of individuals in order to recruit them to carry out said acts.
Bad headline, T&A - the 'War on Terror' is a Bushism which, taking into account the appalling war record of our American cousins, exposes the hypocrisy of their foreign policy over the years.
That said, each and every one of us has a responsibility to our fellow humans, to do what is right to protect and uphold the laws that we live under in this country. Yes, we have Muslim terrorists, but it's a minority - most people are just trying to do their best for their families and get by. Yes we have white supremacists with weapons caches, just waiting for the moment to use it - the chemist brewing ricin in county Durham in June last year being a prime example - but similarly, most white families are just trying to get by too.
There's no race any better than any other, there's just individuals, good and bad, and we should challenge bigotry and extremism wherever it lies...even if it is in our own communities. Isn't that so, Albion, Denis, Mr Gummage......?
I notice that as ever your list of what you perceive as culprits doesnt include the foul mouthed persons who are bringing up tit for tat and threatening reactions in order to deflect the true topic of this thread into something else.
albion
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10:42pm Mon 8 Feb 10
ms walker wrote:I didnt think you considered that there were divided communities, I always thought you considered us to be one big happy family (with the possible exception of myself of course).
albion wrote:I think the clue was in '...even in our own communities...' Albion.
ms walker wrote:This isnt about race it is about religious intolerance and the Police reaction to threats and acts of terrorism and the fundamentalising of individuals in order to recruit them to carry out said acts.
Bad headline, T&A - the 'War on Terror' is a Bushism which, taking into account the appalling war record of our American cousins, exposes the hypocrisy of their foreign policy over the years.
That said, each and every one of us has a responsibility to our fellow humans, to do what is right to protect and uphold the laws that we live under in this country. Yes, we have Muslim terrorists, but it's a minority - most people are just trying to do their best for their families and get by. Yes we have white supremacists with weapons caches, just waiting for the moment to use it - the chemist brewing ricin in county Durham in June last year being a prime example - but similarly, most white families are just trying to get by too.
There's no race any better than any other, there's just individuals, good and bad, and we should challenge bigotry and extremism wherever it lies...even if it is in our own communities. Isn't that so, Albion, Denis, Mr Gummage......?
I notice that as ever your list of what you perceive as culprits doesnt include the foul mouthed persons who are bringing up tit for tat and threatening reactions in order to deflect the true topic of this thread into something else.
Do try to stay with the script...
cookie_brighton
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7:43am Tue 9 Feb 10
All-seeing-eye
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11:05am Tue 9 Feb 10
DJ_TEZZA_93
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11:11am Tue 9 Feb 10
albion wrote:The BNP&EDL Thugs go round smashing people’s lives daily. No one takes it seriously. But this-a freak terrorist attack-barely ever happens is overhyped propaganda.
sexysam wrote:The BNP doesnt threaten anyone and is a legitimate political party, therefore people have the choice of voting for them or not.
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
As for its supporters, if you look into the membership of ANY political party (or indeed the people who always vote for a particular party) you will find people with criminal convictions.
"A handful of extremists" can wreak a great deal of havoc given the chance.
mikado85
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11:26am Tue 9 Feb 10
albion
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11:35am Tue 9 Feb 10
DJ_TEZZA_93 wrote:Try telling that to the families of the 52 people killed in the London bombings or the 700 injured!
albion wrote:The BNP&EDL Thugs go round smashing people’s lives daily. No one takes it seriously. But this-a freak terrorist attack-barely ever happens is overhyped propaganda.
sexysam wrote:The BNP doesnt threaten anyone and is a legitimate political party, therefore people have the choice of voting for them or not.
This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as well
As for its supporters, if you look into the membership of ANY political party (or indeed the people who always vote for a particular party) you will find people with criminal convictions.
"A handful of extremists" can wreak a great deal of havoc given the chance.
albion
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11:38am Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:I would suggest YOU go back to the top of the page and read the report! Then comment on it with something relevant.
Some people, Gummage, Albion, Dennis Court, NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE THEY SHARE THEIR OPINIONS!
Research 9/11 and look at what ACTUALLY happened, and all those questions avoided by the government.
Reasearch 7/7 - Driving licenses found intact, as underground trains and people bowl to smitherines? Open your eyes you fools.
Also, the British Empire took over the land in India as well asmany other countries once upon a time. Did they not terrorise everything in these lands? Were they not extreme ?
Hold on, the words 'terrorist' and 'extreme' werent used at all in those times were they?
You people should really educate yourselves before opening your mouths.
That kind of attitude isnt going to solve anything. Go backto school and learn something.
white_envy
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11:47am Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85
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11:51am Tue 9 Feb 10
Rambo
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11:56am Tue 9 Feb 10
albion
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12:08pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:"Someone" but not ME! as for "political views" I couldnt comment on those of anyone else.
albion - truth hurts does it mate?
These comments as a whole has gone off topic, and i suggest that it was someone with the same political views as yourself that has mentioned 9/11 and 7/7 - hence why i have commented on it.
Throw the rest of your toys out of your toy-box and cry about it some more. You might get somwhere.... or maybe not...
loser!
albion
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12:21pm Tue 9 Feb 10
white_envy wrote:None of which has anything to do with this report, unless of course you are trying to say that events on other continents some of which were centuries ago can justify contemporary terrorism, And as people here seem to think that I am a BNP voter how can I or others be held responsible for current campaigns instigated by the Labour Party with the backing of the Conservatives?
lol albion...like you've never gone off topic...and mikado85...spot on mate.
typical scheme of hushing the true reality under the carpet and turning a blind eye to it...either knowingly or simply becuase they are oblivious to it all and just take in whats fed to them through the media etc...its a cycle people...look back in history...the truth always comes out 50 60 years down the line...like ive said before...read up on the Rothschilds....
Bone_idle18
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12:34pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:Can we keep things current? the threat is a current threat, nothing to do with the past.
Some people, Gummage, Albion, Dennis Court, NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE THEY SHARE THEIR OPINIONS!
Research 9/11 and look at what ACTUALLY happened, and all those questions avoided by the government.
Reasearch 7/7 - Driving licenses found intact, as underground trains and people bowl to smitherines? Open your eyes you fools.
Also, the British Empire took over the land in India as well asmany other countries once upon a time. Did they not terrorise everything in these lands? Were they not extreme ?
Hold on, the words 'terrorist' and 'extreme' werent used at all in those times were they?
You people should really educate yourselves before opening your mouths.
That kind of attitude isnt going to solve anything. Go backto school and learn something.
mikado85
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3:09pm Tue 9 Feb 10
lanzaman
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3:09pm Tue 9 Feb 10
Sonic the cat
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3:12pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85
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3:16pm Tue 9 Feb 10
albion
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3:21pm Tue 9 Feb 10
Sonic the cat wrote:Is this meant to be a comedy post or are your spelling and grammar really that bad?
I think people are mistaking acts of terror with religion (and yes here we go again!)
I personally think no religion promotes violence including Islam. The three religions christions, jews and muslim speak the same thing. And yes the past two religions were through the kill all infidel stage through! remember the crusaders? and as for kill all infidals etc..the word infidel actually was first used my a Roman Calthalic not Islam.
I'm not saying what these guys are going is right, of course not.
Islam just like other religions says a big No! to killing.
What people don't realises is because of this so called extra security police now have the authority to do ludicrous things such as question people taking a photo in London city centre (tourist place?) and reid homes armed where people are dressed up in fancy dress??
If Islam was really asking people to kill all non muslims then there would be bloodshed on every street! Just think!! (oh sorry i forgot! people don't do that anymore, they just follow what ever crap the media throws at you like sheep)
albion
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3:23pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:Resorting to insults! tut tut.
Rambo - You sound like the kind of person that believes everything you read and see in the media. when will you learn ?
Sit yourself down, write down some questions about these events, and how they could have possibly occured, then look for the answers. I guaramtee you will not. Even write to the government and ask for explanations, they will not materialise.
just because the media has stated an event happened in such a way, does not mean it is true. It is all hearsay. A reporter will happily report on something, based on what you tell them, not searching for the facts themselves.
I won't go into it into any more detail, it is simply common sense.
So maybe you're the one lacking education as well as common sense here, you mental retard !
mikado85
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3:24pm Tue 9 Feb 10
albion
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3:29pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:Then HE should know better.
albion, west riding says...
3:23pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:
Rambo - You sound like the kind of person that believes everything you read and see in the media. when will you learn ?
Sit yourself down, write down some questions about these events, and how they could have possibly occured, then look for the answers. I guaramtee you will not. Even write to the government and ask for explanations, they will not materialise.
just because the media has stated an event happened in such a way, does not mean it is true. It is all hearsay. A reporter will happily report on something, based on what you tell them, not searching for the facts themselves.
I won't go into it into any more detail, it is simply common sense.
So maybe you're the one lacking education as well as common sense here, you mental retard !
Resorting to insults! tut tut.
WELL HE SAID IT FIRST :-)
mikado85
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Rambo
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Rambo
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albion
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3:48pm Tue 9 Feb 10
mikado85 wrote:His mother? I have never to my knowledge met the man but I get the impression from his posts that he is very much an adult.
This is very true. But he needs to know what he is. If his mother isn't going to teach him anything, and he hasn't bothered paying attention at school, and he cant use his own initiative, then i'd like to think i can help.
white_envy
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mikado85
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white_envy
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white_envy
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Rambo
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white_envy
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mikado85
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jay 123
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denis court
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8:05pm Wed 10 Feb 10
ms walker wrote:so a name-check from the oh so holy Mrs Walker. We've already established that she did a pointless degree in bradford (did you need any b's to get on the course?) and that meant her living in student digs in BD5 and BD7. But she didn't hang about there. As soon as she could she was like the other apologists who 'white flight' it out of the city and frown on people who stick it out in their home town and talk about what they see, not how Mrs. Walker would like it to be through her rose tinted binoculars. No, there's no race better than the other and no race should colonise another and demand that the colonialists should stay the same and the indigineous population must change their lives so as not to upset them. We had three racist riots in Bradford BEFORE Iraq and Afganistan. The city is clearly divided and the cause is muslim. Generally, they don't want to intergrate, they don't want to clash with other muslims but they want the city as a whole to accomodate them. The Bradford terrorists have not been kicked out of their community or relgion, their relatives and the blinkered self promoted'community leaders' who cried 'foul' when they were arrested have no shame and life will carry on as normal when the terrorists emerge with the same mindset. If the death of an innocent person is such a crime in islam, how are islamic terrorists allowed to pratise their religion in prison and why are they welcomed back to mosques after their release?
Bad headline, T&A - the 'War on Terror' is a Bushism which, taking into account the appalling war record of our American cousins, exposes the hypocrisy of their foreign policy over the years. That said, each and every one of us has a responsibility to our fellow humans, to do what is right to protect and uphold the laws that we live under in this country. Yes, we have Muslim terrorists, but it's a minority - most people are just trying to do their best for their families and get by. Yes we have white supremacists with weapons caches, just waiting for the moment to use it - the chemist brewing ricin in county Durham in June last year being a prime example - but similarly, most white families are just trying to get by too. There's no race any better than any other, there's just individuals, good and bad, and we should challenge bigotry and extremism wherever it lies...even if it is in our own communities. Isn't that so, Albion, Denis, Mr Gummage......?
Marco Polio
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mikado85 wrote:I don't understand how you can compare The British Empire taking over india several centuries ago with muslims living in Britain today? Are muslims trying to take over the country? Back onto topic the police are right to ask the muslim community to identify jihadis, but most muslims don't know who they are and the ones that do hide the fact they know, because its fellow muslim first, infidel second. Don't believe me, ask Anjem Choudrey.
Some people, Gummage, Albion, Dennis Court, NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE THEY SHARE THEIR OPINIONS! Research 9/11 and look at what ACTUALLY happened, and all those questions avoided by the government. Reasearch 7/7 - Driving licenses found intact, as underground trains and people bowl to smitherines? Open your eyes you fools. Also, the British Empire took over the land in India as well asmany other countries once upon a time. Did they not terrorise everything in these lands? Were they not extreme ? Hold on, the words 'terrorist' and 'extreme' werent used at all in those times were they? You people should really educate yourselves before opening your mouths. That kind of attitude isnt going to solve anything. Go backto school and learn something.
t'old man
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10:11am Sat 13 Feb 10
Iona Cortina wrote:wondered how long it would take you to get round to bringing Israel into it ...you never fail ..so repetative so boring ..yawn....roll eyes ...... read elsewhere that an asian family has lost their cat no doubt you'll be posting that the Israelis are behind that as well !!
Bone_idle18 wrote:More innocents have been killed by Communists and Zionists. How many did Hitler kill ? - how many did Pol Pot kill ? - how many did the vile Israeli terrorists like Sharon (and before him) kill ? - look up the massacres of Sabra and Shatila in Lebanon, then speak.Iona Cortina wrote:How many innocent people in GB have died at the hands of BNP bombers? I doubt people like David Copeland would be protected by the community. The issue of Islamic extremists isn't about the odd nutter, it's about a fundamental issue throughout the world. Try an add up how many people have died as a result of Islamic terrorist attacks in the World and then try and justify it to yourself. some people seem to go immediately on the attack when stories like this are published! "Why are you picking on us poor Muslims?", "it's all the west's fault", "the Zionist press are making it up" etc.. Surely outing extremists is a good idea, whether they are BNP, Muslim, animal rights or whatever? there are some seriously deluded people on here, I suspect some of the views that the police want to expose are shared by one or two contributors to this website!Bone_idle18 wrote:I take it you missed this little snippet : . "Media whiteout following possible BNP bomb plot arrests".. . This is not the first time BNP members have planned bombing campaigns targeting innocent civilians in the UK. In 17 April 1999, David Copeland launched a terrorist attack on the African community in Brixton. . Looks like the vile British Nazi Party are no different then. And the media decided to 'block' this story when it broke. Wonder how many others have been caught without us knowing ? - wonder if the T&A would report on such matters ? {rolleyes}sexysam wrote: This is just an over-hyped trash.There is a lot more to worry about than handful of extremists.I am more scared of vile BNP supporters. Why doesnt the law abiding white community /coppers expose those animals as wellExactly what are you scared of? I can't remember the last time a BNP supporter with a bomb blew themselves up on public transport, can you?
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Avro says...
9:42am Mon 8 Feb 10