Former Odeon 'unsafe' says survey

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: The Odeon building The Odeon building

A new structural survey has “proved the case” for the demolition of the derelict Odeon cinema, say developers who want to regenerate the city centre site.

The independent survey, carried out by Leeds-based engineering firm Ramboll Whitbybird, shows the 77-year-old building has major structural defects and contains a “substantial amount” of asbestos.

Developers Langtree Artisan will use the report to support its planning application to Bradford Council on October 17, arguing that the building should be demolished to make way for the New Victoria Place scheme.

David Rolinson, deputy chairman of Spawforths, the planning consultants to Langtree Artisan, said surveyors had found asbestos sheeting on roofs and walls, asbestos rope around electrical equipment and asbestos spray in large areas, and structural defects, including corrosion of steelwork in the towers and cracks in their stonework.

He said: “The survey looked at the building’s quality or lack of quality in great detail.”

Glyn Turner, regional development manager for Langtree, said: “I want to make it absolutely clear that this was not a superficial assessment, but a very detailed structural survey.”

He said the survey “proved the case” for demolishing a building that sits in a Conservation Area.

Mr Turner said: “This building is not going to fall down immediately, but it would take a substantial amount of money to bring it back to some sort of leisure use.”

The Department for Culture, Media and Sport is due to make a decision any day on an appeal over the sixth failed attempt to get listed building status.

Maud Marshall, chief executive of Bradford Centre Regeneration, said Yorkshire Forward and Langtree Artisan were determined to make the scheme go ahead despite the credit crunch, adding that their commitment was a sign of confidence in Bradford and the project “vital” to city renewal.

Dave Custance, assistant director of environment for regional development agency Yorkshire Forward, which bought the site five years ago, said New Victoria Place would “set the standard” for development in Bradford.

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11:24am Mon 29 Sep 08

albion says...

It doesnt say its NOT repairable.
It doesnt say its NOT repairable. albion
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11:29am Mon 29 Sep 08

Collos says...

I bet an independant survey would be slightly different.If there is that much asbestos then it will cost just as much to remove it whether you demolish the building or keep it.Why is it "vital"to city renewal will nothing go ahead in the city without it.Magic Maude is using hype over reality to try and save her reputation from the mess she and her cronies have got Bradford in to.
I bet an independant survey would be slightly different.If there is that much asbestos then it will cost just as much to remove it whether you demolish the building or keep it.Why is it "vital"to city renewal will nothing go ahead in the city without it.Magic Maude is using hype over reality to try and save her reputation from the mess she and her cronies have got Bradford in to. Collos
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1:19pm Mon 29 Sep 08

Apollo says...

So leave the building alone for years to decay then commission a report that just happend to support the developers who want to pull it down and the Council what have always wanted rid of the place?

You really could not make it up could you?

Even if you had to demolish the building the safeguards required to do so sfely if there is asbestos and just the same and as costly as removing it in the first place.

No one believes this report other than those whose position it supports - it is a whitewash.
So leave the building alone for years to decay then commission a report that just happend to support the developers who want to pull it down and the Council what have always wanted rid of the place? You really could not make it up could you? Even if you had to demolish the building the safeguards required to do so sfely if there is asbestos and just the same and as costly as removing it in the first place. No one believes this report other than those whose position it supports - it is a whitewash. Apollo
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1:41pm Mon 29 Sep 08

Cristos says...

Albion you have hit the nail on the head. There is no mention anywhere that the building can not be repaired or part of it retained ie the front and towers. Independant report or puppet reporters.
Albion you have hit the nail on the head. There is no mention anywhere that the building can not be repaired or part of it retained ie the front and towers. Independant report or puppet reporters. Cristos
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2:01pm Mon 29 Sep 08

tyker says...

It happened at the very old Busbys on Manningham Lane: planning permission was refused upteen times to protect the facade: it fell into disrepair totally and was eventually burned down or was that torched!!

maybe just maybe now that it has been declared unsafe..............
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It happened at the very old Busbys on Manningham Lane: planning permission was refused upteen times to protect the facade: it fell into disrepair totally and was eventually burned down or was that torched!! maybe just maybe now that it has been declared unsafe.............. .................... .. tyker
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3:53pm Mon 29 Sep 08

Edwin says...

Tyker is wicked making such leading suggestions. Now anybody caught within half a mile of the tinder box Odeon with a box of matches, will be arrested.
Tyker is wicked making such leading suggestions. Now anybody caught within half a mile of the tinder box Odeon with a box of matches, will be arrested. Edwin
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4:04pm Mon 29 Sep 08

Bradford.Warrior says...

I wonder if the T&A would have reported this IF the report had come back saying that the building had nothing wrong with it? This is just the councils way of making sure that they can demolish the building. It's had no repairs done to it for years, and even the drainage pipes inside have been cut which would cause more damage in wet weather and photos prove this!!

I really hope the appeal comes back in favour of keeping the building, cos that will show the 2 fingers to the council. I also remember some report been done on the 2 remaining cooling towers in Sheffield that said that they were in a bad state of repair.....when they blew them up one of the towers refused to go quietly. Maybe the Odeon can be the same
I wonder if the T&A would have reported this IF the report had come back saying that the building had nothing wrong with it? This is just the councils way of making sure that they can demolish the building. It's had no repairs done to it for years, and even the drainage pipes inside have been cut which would cause more damage in wet weather and photos prove this!! I really hope the appeal comes back in favour of keeping the building, cos that will show the 2 fingers to the council. I also remember some report been done on the 2 remaining cooling towers in Sheffield that said that they were in a bad state of repair.....when they blew them up one of the towers refused to go quietly. Maybe the Odeon can be the same Bradford.Warrior
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4:52pm Mon 29 Sep 08

MP says...

Another shock and horror report designed to avoid doing what people want to see, keep the building get it listed and repair it. Incidentally, I suggest the same firm are engaged to do a similar survey of City Hall.....its chock full of asbestos.
Another shock and horror report designed to avoid doing what people want to see, keep the building get it listed and repair it. Incidentally, I suggest the same firm are engaged to do a similar survey of City Hall.....its chock full of asbestos. MP
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8:23pm Mon 29 Sep 08

andyjohn7 says...

So, the old lady won't fall down.We know this because it was built at a time when things were built properly. She won't fall down because, even though it is what the owners want, and what we don't, they will play any amount of dirty tricks to get their own way, whereas B.O.R.G tell the truth.
Why don't B.C.R AND Yorkshire Forward tell us how much it would cost to fix and then we can all compare it with the 55 million Pounds that it will cost to put up their horrendous New Victoria scheme that nobody wants.
We don't need any more office space or apartments or another bloody hotel, we want something that is original and for the benefit of the people of Bradford and the Odeon is already there and it means a lot to Bradfordians. There isn't anything like it in this country......
Therefore we must try very very hard to resist the planning application.
So, the old lady won't fall down.We know this because it was built at a time when things were built properly. She won't fall down because, even though it is what the owners want, and what we don't, they will play any amount of dirty tricks to get their own way, whereas B.O.R.G tell the truth. Why don't B.C.R AND Yorkshire Forward tell us how much it would cost to fix and then we can all compare it with the 55 million Pounds that it will cost to put up their horrendous New Victoria scheme that nobody wants. We don't need any more office space or apartments or another bloody hotel, we want something that is original and for the benefit of the people of Bradford and the Odeon is already there and it means a lot to Bradfordians. There isn't anything like it in this country...... Therefore we must try very very hard to resist the planning application. andyjohn7
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9:26pm Mon 29 Sep 08

Elvin Peel says...

surprise, surprise ; having neglected the building for years it's showing signs of disrepair.Some people might think it was demolition by stealth but perhaps I'm being a touch cynical.
We've just levelled one pile of bricks in the city centre to make way for a ..........space, lets not have another it's not really very funny anymore Ms. Maude.
surprise, surprise ; having neglected the building for years it's showing signs of disrepair.Some people might think it was demolition by stealth but perhaps I'm being a touch cynical. We've just levelled one pile of bricks in the city centre to make way for a ..........space, lets not have another it's not really very funny anymore Ms. Maude. Elvin Peel
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7:10pm Tue 18 Jan 11

Helter Skelter says...

Its only a matter of time when Bradford University will own the land where the Odeon sits or sat....doesnt take a genius to work out whos buying up all the land (& building while we speak)in the Listerhills, Thornton Road, Great Horton Road triangle....but Im sure they will wait until the council either make it safe or demolish it before they get their grubby hands on it !
Its only a matter of time when Bradford University will own the land where the Odeon sits or sat....doesnt take a genius to work out whos buying up all the land (& building while we speak)in the Listerhills, Thornton Road, Great Horton Road triangle....but Im sure they will wait until the council either make it safe or demolish it before they get their grubby hands on it ! Helter Skelter
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