Police commissioner sets out his priorities during visit to Bradford (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

When Will We Ever See Them?
When You Report Anything NO Ones Comes
25 Minutes Before Anyone Comes To You At The Police Desk
Hope This Guy Has Some Magic Wand
Nobody Else Has Had

As stated we now have major problems with legal highs, often much more dangerous than the illegal ones, as kids mistakenly think that the are doing the right thing by staying on the right side of the law. The stubborn attitude of David Cameron (an ex cannabis user) regarding reform of the drugs laws is helping no-one other than the dealers who continue to do a roaring trade and pushing their drugs on new users. The Police will continue to scratch the surface seizing about 1% of the drugs on the street. We need a new approach and time and time again the advice of scientist and medical professionals is ignored in favour of political posturing as the politicains strive to win votes by peddeling ignorance and prejudice at the expense of our children.

What the public REALLY wants is more severe sentencing for ILLEGAL drug smugglers and dealers. Currently the deterrents are ineffective, as we see regularly when people continue to offend while on bail and awaiting sentence.
I applaud the efforts of the Bridge Project and hope that, one day more funding will be available for more such schemes. But it doesn't address the problem of the criminals or those who come on here with a legalisation agenda, born out by their membership of several societies dedicated to the legalisation of drugs.

Albion. wrote:
What the public REALLY wants is more severe sentencing for ILLEGAL drug smugglers and dealers. Currently the deterrents are ineffective, as we see regularly when people continue to offend while on bail and awaiting sentence.
I applaud the efforts of the Bridge Project and hope that, one day more funding will be available for more such schemes. But it doesn't address the problem of the criminals or those who come on here with a legalisation agenda, born out by their membership of several societies dedicated to the legalisation of drugs.

Haven't we been trying to police drugs in this way for decades? In David Cameron's own words in 2005 "Politicians attempt to appeal to the lowest common denominator by posturing with tough policies and calling for crackdown after crackdown. Drugs policy has been failing for decades."
Are you the lowest common denominator he refers to?

Harsh sentences for any crime has never worked in reducing crime rates history proves that.I agree that dangerous criminals need removing from the street but drug dealers and users no amount of harsh sentencing will stop the problem.If you made them legal and easy to get at and cheap then you would cut crime of all descriptions overnight its worth a try because all other attempts have failed.

ZERO TOLERANCE! That's the only way to even scratch the surface of the deep-rooted problems in this city. It's worked in other cities with problems far worse than Bradford, it just needs someone with the cojones to stand up and do it.

Albion. wrote:
What the public REALLY wants is more severe sentencing for ILLEGAL drug smugglers and dealers. Currently the deterrents are ineffective, as we see regularly when people continue to offend while on bail and awaiting sentence.
I applaud the efforts of the Bridge Project and hope that, one day more funding will be available for more such schemes. But it doesn't address the problem of the criminals or those who come on here with a legalisation agenda, born out by their membership of several societies dedicated to the legalisation of drugs.

This from a person who states he used illegal drugs for many years.

collos25 wrote:
Harsh sentences for any crime has never worked in reducing crime rates history proves that.I agree that dangerous criminals need removing from the street but drug dealers and users no amount of harsh sentencing will stop the problem.If you made them legal and easy to get at and cheap then you would cut crime of all descriptions overnight its worth a try because all other attempts have failed.

The only way forward, take it out of the hands of the dealers, once this is done properly manage it and education education education, and watch the user rate plummet.

I know someone who attended a local neighbourhood forum. He mention that he and other neighbours reported a shooting a few years ago. The police turned up around 24hours later. They actually sent a PCSO to knockom his door. The guy was so shocked as we're his neighbours they moved!

The Police are not for for purpose. Sorry but that's the facts. They concentrate on speeding drivers and people on mobiles as they can cash in for the force and authority.

Catching drug dealers and other criminals is a chore for them.

They rely on the publics help to gather intelligence on crimes and criminals. They cannot use their own I initiative to actively pursue crime.

Crime and the fear of crime is soaring...yet the police are not fit for purpose.

The courts are also not fit for purpose.

The jail system is not fit for purpose.

Bring back the right to bare arms and watch the robberies and burglaries fall.

Not so simple wrote:
I know someone who attended a local neighbourhood forum. He mention that he and other neighbours reported a shooting a few years ago. The police turned up around 24hours later. They actually sent a PCSO to knockom his door. The guy was so shocked as we're his neighbours they moved!

The Police are not for for purpose. Sorry but that's the facts. They concentrate on speeding drivers and people on mobiles as they can cash in for the force and authority.

Catching drug dealers and other criminals is a chore for them.

They rely on the publics help to gather intelligence on crimes and criminals. They cannot use their own I initiative to actively pursue crime.

Crime and the fear of crime is soaring...yet the police are not fit for purpose.

The courts are also not fit for purpose.

The jail system is not fit for purpose.

Bring back the right to bare arms and watch the robberies and burglaries fall.

These are observations. Yes they catch some criminals...many get away.

By the way the police ain't recruiting for a while, they are actually considering lowering police numbers. They want to work more effectively and efficiently targeting specific areas and types of crime, question is what the effin hek have they been doing for all those years when job losses and efficiencies were not needed?

Each area should have its own resident police force...not part time police stations with rude counter staff...visit traffalgur and you will meet some rude snappy officers before the desk.

More police and less PCSOs.

I wish the police authorities speak to the serving officers as they will tell them some home truths...things are well messed up from top to bottom.

Remember the police are to maintain the peace and protect the public. Robberies,burglaries
,shootings,muggings, child grooming, drug dealing....list goes on that suggests that the police are failing to protect the public.

Rest my case.

Not so simple wrote:
By the way the police ain't recruiting for a while, they are actually considering lowering police numbers. They want to work more effectively and efficiently targeting specific areas and types of crime, question is what the effin hek have they been doing for all those years when job losses and efficiencies were not needed?

Each area should have its own resident police force...not part time police stations with rude counter staff...visit traffalgur and you will meet some rude snappy officers before the desk.

More police and less PCSOs.

I wish the police authorities speak to the serving officers as they will tell them some home truths...things are well messed up from top to bottom.

Remember the police are to maintain the peace and protect the public. Robberies,burglaries

,shootings,muggings, child grooming, drug dealing....list goes on that suggests that the police are failing to protect the public.

Rest my case.

I would argue that the police should focus their energies on protecting people from others that do them harm rather than trying to protect them from themselves. Other countries have tried this approach to great success, notably Portugal.

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The police have no place in the treatment of health problems and their harrassment of those struggling with drugs problems is counterproductive.

Zero tolerance; imprisonment; deportation; expulsion.

Commonsensefirst wrote:
Zero tolerance; imprisonment; deportation; expulsion.

fool

Bring back the right to bare arms and watch the robberies and burglaries fall.”

Really worked in America and all countries that have the right to bear arms.Typical fools solution.

No Common Sense there!

RollandSmoke wrote:

Not so simple wrote:
By the way the police ain't recruiting for a while, they are actually considering lowering police numbers. They want to work more effectively and efficiently targeting specific areas and types of crime, question is what the effin hek have they been doing for all those years when job losses and efficiencies were not needed?

Each area should have its own resident police force...not part time police stations with rude counter staff...visit traffalgur and you will meet some rude snappy officers before the desk.

More police and less PCSOs.

I wish the police authorities speak to the serving officers as they will tell them some home truths...things are well messed up from top to bottom.

Remember the police are to maintain the peace and protect the public. Robberies,burglaries


,shootings,muggings, child grooming, drug dealing....list goes on that suggests that the police are failing to protect the public.

Rest my case.

I would argue that the police should focus their energies on protecting people from others that do them harm rather than trying to protect them from themselves. Other countries have tried this approach to great success, notably Portugal.

http://blogs.telegra

ph.co.uk/news/tomchi

versscience/10013748

0/david-cameron-know

s-the-drug-laws-aren

t-working-his-failur

e-to-change-them-is-

simple-cowardice/

The police have no place in the treatment of health problems and their harrassment of those struggling with drugs problems is counterproductive.

Agree

Commonsensefirst wrote:
Zero tolerance; imprisonment; deportation; expulsion.

What an idiotic approach....Australi
a don't want no more cons! Besides they'll only have the desecendants be better at cricket and football...best to just lock them up under the courts.

However what about dealing with root causes of crime....it's much easier and in the long term very cost effective.

collos25 wrote:
Bring back the right to bare arms and watch the robberies and burglaries fall.”

Really worked in America and all countries that have the right to bear arms.Typical fools solution.

So according to you it's better to leave criminals with guns and leave the law abiding citizens with no means of defence? What an idiotic approach. In the US studies show that illegal acts are done mainly by those keeping guns illegally. Less crime occurs if the victims can defend themselves.

Zero tolerance is feasible.
It is not just the young ones, their parents commit carefree little offences and the rest just follow. The police rightly concentrate on some of the big crimes but the majority of ordinary folk have to put up with the mindless casual disregard for peace and quiet for the rest of us. At bus stops, in the interchange, around the puddle, in the side streets.
Pester the blighters until they get fed up of it and start to behave in a civilised manner.
We need more coppers on the street. Come on Cameron, give us the protection you get. Put your hand deep into your pocket and spend some money on the rest of us.

watcher22 wrote:
Zero tolerance is feasible.
It is not just the young ones, their parents commit carefree little offences and the rest just follow. The police rightly concentrate on some of the big crimes but the majority of ordinary folk have to put up with the mindless casual disregard for peace and quiet for the rest of us. At bus stops, in the interchange, around the puddle, in the side streets.
Pester the blighters until they get fed up of it and start to behave in a civilised manner.
We need more coppers on the street. Come on Cameron, give us the protection you get. Put your hand deep into your pocket and spend some money on the rest of us.

You mean Cameron come and spend our money on us!

Drugs - important but self inflicted.
More effort should be applied to those who cause damage in cars - particularly those who do not insure them.

Commonsensefirst wrote:
Zero tolerance; imprisonment; deportation; expulsion.

No no no .... give them free drugs, loads of them then we can all have a break from those who can't do the real world without drugs and the resulting behaviour which spoils the health and quality of so many lives. Definitely the quickest and cheapest option!
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Also, please can we have drones operating in the sky over Bradford. Maybe the police will then be able to catch more than a cold.
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We need the perpetrators of anti social behaviour caught and to do that the police need to increase their understanding of patterns of behaviour on our streets, profiles of those committing anti social behaviour and other crimes it etc. Drones would be a really useful tool.