Bishop of Bradford, the Rt Rev Nick Baines, calls for reflection as bid to allow women to become bishops defeated by six votes

DISAPPOINTMENT: Bishop of Bradford the Right Reverend Nick Baines

DISAPPOINTMENT: Bishop of Bradford the Right Reverend Nick Baines

First published in Bradford

The Bishop of Bradford has spoken of his regret about the decision by the General Synod to reject draft legislation to allow women bishops in the Church of England.

The Right Reverend Nick Baines has said he was “strongly in favour” of women bishops and has said it is important to note the General Synod still voted hugely in favour of women’s bishops, only to fall short by six votes.

A draft measure ushering in the prospect of women bishops, including a possible future female Archbishop of Canterbury cleared the Houses of Bishops and Clergy in the General Synod but failed to gain the necessary two-thirds majority among lay members.

The Rt Rev Baines said: “The motion was strongly carried in the House of Bishops and the House of Clergy and lost in the House of Laity. I’m strongly in favour of women bishops and regret the decision by the House of Laity.

“The Church now needs to draw breath and ask where we go from here. This decision, clearly against the express wish of the dioceses, does not change the fact that Jesus is Risen.”

The former Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams used stronger language yesterday when he said the Church had “undoubtedly lost a measure of credibility” in society following the defeat of the legislation.

He told the General Synod: “Whatever the theological principle on which people acted and spoke, the fact remains a great deal of this discussion is not intelligible to wider society.

“Worse than that, it seems as if we are wilfully blind to some of the trends and priorities of that wider society.

“We have some explaining to do, we have as a result of yesterday undoubtedly lost a measure of credibility in our society.”

The vote was billed as the biggest in the 20 years since the General Synod backed the introduction of women priests in 1992 and comes after 42 out of the 44 dioceses of the Church of England backed the legislation.

If the measure had received final approval, it would have gone to the Houses of Parliament before Royal Assent with the first women bishops on course to be appointed as early as 2014.

Bradford MPs have been split on the role they should play in relation to the vote. Bradford East MP David Ward said: “This is very, very disappointing. Half the population of the has been snubbed and it is very regrettable.”

Meanwhile, Shipley MP Philip Davies said: “As far as I am concerned it is a matter for the Church of England and I do not see it is for MPs. It is up to them to determine the best way with their own religious beliefs”

The Reverend Ruth Yeoman, Vicar of Menston Parish Church, said: “I was very disappointed when we were not able to take the courageous vote to see women admitted as bishops in the Church of England.”

Bradford West MP George Galloway said: “I’m tempted to say this is an institution with entrenched institutionalised sexism, but that’s certainly how the rest of the world will view it. I’m not even sure this is legal. It is a disastrous decision by a conservative minority and it will have further serious consequences on church attendances. Surely there must be a mechanism for a recall vote?”

Keighley MP Kris Hopkins said: “I am extremely disappointed the Synod has voted against women bishops. The next time I receive a lecture from the Church of England about equalities, I might use this decision as a reference point.”

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4:51pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

CoE like the majority of religions are discriminatory.

Even working MEN's clubs had to make rule changes to allow all adults on the premises and become members.

Athiests class men,women, children, age, colour as equals.

Time these backward thinking morons were told in no uncertain terms to pack up and p off. You serve no-one but yourselves, your tight knit groups and frankly are a disgusting set of humans paying more attention to a figment of imagination than a person.


Go find an island somewhere, let all the church leaders(by church I mean your denomination) have a pray-off and the winner, the one who god actually speaks to, has carte blanche to systematically murder the other denominations. Good idea? I've nicked it from what you do and have done through the lifespan of your religion. That is all religions, maybe not Buddhists.


What a set of prats religitards are. You are irrelevant in any society but more so in modern day England.
CoE like the majority of religions are discriminatory. Even working MEN's clubs had to make rule changes to allow all adults on the premises and become members. Athiests class men,women, children, age, colour as equals. Time these backward thinking morons were told in no uncertain terms to pack up and p off. You serve no-one but yourselves, your tight knit groups and frankly are a disgusting set of humans paying more attention to a figment of imagination than a person. Go find an island somewhere, let all the church leaders(by church I mean your denomination) have a pray-off and the winner, the one who god actually speaks to, has carte blanche to systematically murder the other denominations. Good idea? I've nicked it from what you do and have done through the lifespan of your religion. That is all religions, maybe not Buddhists. What a set of prats religitards are. You are irrelevant in any society but more so in modern day England. Prisoner Cell Block A
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4:59pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

When can we have our land back?
When can we have our land back? Another Landless Peasant
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5:08pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

And gold/silver
And gold/silver Prisoner Cell Block A
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5:18pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Albion. says...

I can understand the traditionalists wanting to stand by the principles enshrined in the structure, but the CofE will try and over rule this decision, as it has abandoned many other principles in an attempt to court popularity and to try and remain relevant in the eyes of the public (the gullible public, that is).
The real revelation will come when the Muslim section of the great hoodwink, start to promote women into anything but drudgery!
The vast majority in this country don't give a stuff whether women are bishops or not, I suspect that they would rather that the lot of them (whatever their sex) called it a day.
I can understand the traditionalists wanting to stand by the principles enshrined in the structure, but the CofE will try and over rule this decision, as it has abandoned many other principles in an attempt to court popularity and to try and remain relevant in the eyes of the public (the gullible public, that is). The real revelation will come when the Muslim section of the great hoodwink, start to promote women into anything but drudgery! The vast majority in this country don't give a stuff whether women are bishops or not, I suspect that they would rather that the lot of them (whatever their sex) called it a day. Albion.
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5:21pm Wed 21 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

What's to explain it was Gods will wasn't it?
What's to explain it was Gods will wasn't it? RollandSmoke
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5:44pm Wed 21 Nov 12

thruth9211 says...

Why do women always want to be like men

men and women should have equal rights, but are designed different

Now can a man have a baby...the answer is No, so why dont you ladys relax and go play football instead of making stupid suggestions
Why do women always want to be like men men and women should have equal rights, but are designed different Now can a man have a baby...the answer is No, so why dont you ladys relax and go play football instead of making stupid suggestions thruth9211
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5:50pm Wed 21 Nov 12

The Hoffster says...

thruth9211 wrote:
Why do women always want to be like men

men and women should have equal rights, but are designed different

Now can a man have a baby...the answer is No, so why dont you ladys relax and go play football instead of making stupid suggestions
Good points.

The minute women want to be like men, the destruction of society will be near.

Oh wait...
[quote][p][bold]thruth9211[/bold] wrote: Why do women always want to be like men men and women should have equal rights, but are designed different Now can a man have a baby...the answer is No, so why dont you ladys relax and go play football instead of making stupid suggestions[/p][/quote]Good points. The minute women want to be like men, the destruction of society will be near. Oh wait... The Hoffster
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6:02pm Wed 21 Nov 12

RollandSmoke says...

The women's lib movement was funded by sinister men with sinister motives. Not least to get them out working and paying tax rather than being at home bringing up the kids and instilling some values into them.
The women's lib movement was funded by sinister men with sinister motives. Not least to get them out working and paying tax rather than being at home bringing up the kids and instilling some values into them. RollandSmoke
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7:43pm Wed 21 Nov 12

room124 says...

Another Landless Peasant says...
4:59pm Wed 21 Nov 12
When can we have our land back?

Perhaps when you can be bothered to get off your fat a... and join the revolution brother. Up the workers, not the strikers.
Another Landless Peasant says... 4:59pm Wed 21 Nov 12 When can we have our land back? Perhaps when you can be bothered to get off your fat a... and join the revolution brother. Up the workers, not the strikers. room124
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10:42pm Wed 21 Nov 12

jacknbeanstalk says...

yo room24,lets take our time and think about this
yo room24,lets take our time and think about this jacknbeanstalk
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7:53am Thu 22 Nov 12

cragender says...

This seems like a no brainer. What an ideal job for a woman,wear a long dress, a ridiculous hat and poke your nose in where its's not wanted.
This seems like a no brainer. What an ideal job for a woman,wear a long dress, a ridiculous hat and poke your nose in where its's not wanted. cragender
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