Central Hall is handed over after £1.8m works (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

What a complete waste of £1.8 million, money that the tax payer has provided, regardless of which organisation funded this project. Time will tell what an extremely poor example of how tax payers money is mis-spent. Another ludicrous scheme supported by 'Bradford' council.

A great facility generously provided by Bradford Council. Local community groups now have a meeting place where they can get organized and plan the uprising. We need to see widespread civil disobedience to fight against the Tory scum who are now threatening our lives. TIME TO GET ORGANIZED.

How is this a waste of tax payers’ money Mik_e?
Firstly it is bringing a dilapidated building which was an eyesore, back into use. Secondly it is going to be a resource for all the Keighley Voluntary Sector organisations who are going to be the foundation of the delivery of the Big Society in Keighley and thirdly if marketed properly will give a Keighley a music venue with incredible acoustics.
From your comments I take it you are a Taxpayers' Alliance member and incredibly short sighted?

Your account is currently suspended wrote:
A great facility generously provided by Bradford Council. Local community groups now have a meeting place where they can get organized and plan the uprising. We need to see widespread civil disobedience to fight against the Tory scum who are now threatening our lives. TIME TO GET ORGANIZED.

Here again spouting rubbish are we? I think the only uprising we all need is for some extra brain cells to arrive in your brain to add to the one that you have already got!!!!!! Mind you, with more than once brain cell you could become dangerous.

How can £1.8 million be justified for this renovation? I think that the council have been well and truly ripped off. I am sure that the work could have been done much, much cheaper.

Tinybantam wrote:
How can £1.8 million be justified for this renovation? I think that the council have been well and truly ripped off. I am sure that the work could have been done much, much cheaper.

Having been involved in several refurbishments/renov
ations £1.8 million may seem a lot but the massive increase in the price of steel fabrication will go some way to justifying this figure. The price will also include a high QS specification given the quality of the outer shell of the building which is mid-nineteenth century, and built to last.
Finally the tendering process would have stated a minimum of three quotes, one of which became the successful contractor.

C squared wrote:

Tinybantam wrote: How can £1.8 million be justified for this renovation? I think that the council have been well and truly ripped off. I am sure that the work could have been done much, much cheaper.

Having been involved in several refurbishments/renov ations £1.8 million may seem a lot but the massive increase in the price of steel fabrication will go some way to justifying this figure. The price will also include a high QS specification given the quality of the outer shell of the building which is mid-nineteenth century, and built to last. Finally the tendering process would have stated a minimum of three quotes, one of which became the successful contractor.

Tendering...what a load of Crap!!!!!A Brown paper Envelope usually does the job...oops.....Deny it.... all you like while some lucky sods are spending the dough!!!!
Prices have gone up for sure.....you can shop around...
We would love to see the invoices....go on...publish them if you dare!!!!

C squared wrote:
How is this a waste of tax payers’ money Mik_e? Firstly it is bringing a dilapidated building which was an eyesore, back into use. Secondly it is going to be a resource for all the Keighley Voluntary Sector organisations who are going to be the foundation of the delivery of the Big Society in Keighley and thirdly if marketed properly will give a Keighley a music venue with incredible acoustics. From your comments I take it you are a Taxpayers' Alliance member and incredibly short sighted?

Keighley needs jobs!!!! No a place where you can socialise and moan about the weather and unemployment!!!!
Big Society full of Unemployed people and gues whats the future of our childrens in Keighley!!!!!No playing a bloody instrument....may come in handy whilst busking though!!!!

What? Bradford Council have spent money on a project in Keighley? Now there's something you don't hear everyday! The sooner Keighley takes control of its own affairs the better.

Danny Jacobs wrote:

C squared wrote:

Tinybantam wrote: How can £1.8 million be justified for this renovation? I think that the council have been well and truly ripped off. I am sure that the work could have been done much, much cheaper.

Having been involved in several refurbishments/renov ations £1.8 million may seem a lot but the massive increase in the price of steel fabrication will go some way to justifying this figure. The price will also include a high QS specification given the quality of the outer shell of the building which is mid-nineteenth century, and built to last. Finally the tendering process would have stated a minimum of three quotes, one of which became the successful contractor.

Tendering...what a load of Crap!!!!!A Brown paper Envelope usually does the job...oops.....Deny it.... all you like while some lucky sods are spending the dough!!!!
Prices have gone up for sure.....you can shop around...
We would love to see the invoices....go on...publish them if you dare!!!!

There is a procedure that has to be adhered to counter unintelligent and uninformed comments such as these.
As this is public money and has to be accountable, you can inquire Danny.... that's if you can your brain cell and mouth out of your rear end!!

There is a procedure that has to be adhered to counter unintelligent and uninformed comments such as these.
As this is public money and has to be accountable, you can inquire Danny.... that's if you can your brain cell and mouth out of your rear end!!

should have been "get" after "can"

Danny Jacobs wrote:

C squared wrote:
How is this a waste of tax payers’ money Mik_e? Firstly it is bringing a dilapidated building which was an eyesore, back into use. Secondly it is going to be a resource for all the Keighley Voluntary Sector organisations who are going to be the foundation of the delivery of the Big Society in Keighley and thirdly if marketed properly will give a Keighley a music venue with incredible acoustics. From your comments I take it you are a Taxpayers' Alliance member and incredibly short sighted?

Keighley needs jobs!!!! No a place where you can socialise and moan about the weather and unemployment!!!!
Big Society full of Unemployed people and gues whats the future of our childrens in Keighley!!!!!No playing a bloody instrument....may come in handy whilst busking though!!!!

As the vast majority of jobs are created by private enterprise how does this very useful feature prevent that?

C Squared

As I said 'time will tell', wait and see.

I would also raise some points with you:-

*You seem very well informed regarding the official process that has to take place and I wonder if you have some interest or involvment with any parties concerned?

*What happens officially and what happens in reality can often be poles apart.

*I also note that in two of your posts you contradict yourself i.e. Describing the building as 'dilapidated' and later describing at as 'built to last'.

Please decide on which it is.

Mik_e wrote:
C Squared

As I said 'time will tell', wait and see.

I would also raise some points with you:-

*You seem very well informed regarding the official process that has to take place and I wonder if you have some interest or involvment with any parties concerned?

*What happens officially and what happens in reality can often be poles apart.

*I also note that in two of your posts you contradict yourself i.e. Describing the building as 'dilapidated' and later describing at as 'built to last'.

Please decide on which it is.

No contradiction at all. Dilapidated means state of disrepair or deterioration, as through neglect; and shabby: hence why the building was earmarked in being right for Asset Transferhttp://www.y
outube.com/watch?v=Q
grzwcIiFuk and judge for yourself.
Having previously worked in Keighley, I saw the decline of the building over a number of years. Under Asset Transfer, the process is lengthy and scrutinised at every stage and also to make sure it gives value for money.
No I have no involvement with either KIVCA or Bradford Council; this is standard practice with public money and Asset Transfers.

Councils and government projects are always ripped off. They only get a single quote and then the contractors come up with excuses with the knowledge that they will in all likelihood win and get more money.

Those in charge do not care, it;s not their money and if they need more the councils will give it as if they do not it means a complete stop to a project resulting in it being a waste of money.

Councils should get more than a single quote and then get guarantees that the works will be done to that, if not then they should be fined unless a real excuse can be given.

you just hope that somebody from the council reads all these posts - i wish the level of mistrust through the local community when it comes to Bradford Council is shocking