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    Spanishbob19 wrote:
    Get a life wrote:
    Colin Allcars wrote:
    freemindz01 wrote: They use the drug dealers fear scaremongering tac-tic- to immediately get all the other residents of Bradford especially the English folk on their sides! This is wrong. The Pakistanis live in this area and have to use this access daily several times and we too have to put up with the dealers but the police do nothing! Why! Are they too scared! Yes!
    For what reason do the Pakistanis that live in the area have to use this access several times daily? I only have to go down my road to work and back. i see that the English sikhs have a temple there but why aren't the Pakistanis in Pakistan? aren't there any English in this area any more? how did this happen? There used to be St. Mary's and St. Peters in this area, what happened to the Catholics? Did the Pakistanis make the place unbearable for them? They should be pleased that the English sikhs are still using the area.
    I woudn't knock Pakistan if I were you. I am from India but the history is that after the second world war, Britain made a request to the then prime minister of India Mr J. Nehru for work force to improve the economy, but the request was turned down. However Britain then made the same request to the then prime minister of Pakistan Mr Ayyub Khan for the work force, this was happily accepted. This left the English sikhs licking their back sides as they could not come to the promissed land. The English sikhs then crossed the border in to Pakistan,changed their name to a muslim name, made Pakistani passport and entered the promissed land. now the English sikhs are slagging Pakistan off.
    Hang on a minute. This sounds very much like the pakistani's of today. Dont they get into England, get themselves british passports and then slag the country off???

    The story was about the Sikhs purchasing some land, applying for planning permission (in the proper and legal manner) to gate off their own property. Then putting up the gates, in a proper manner adhering to the conditions set on the planning permission.

    Headlines should read:

    "SIKHS DO SOMETHING LEGAL AND PROPER"
    The road was bought without it ever been advertised, The planning was obtained without notices ever sent out.

    I went to have a look recently and to my desbelieve there are massive rocks on both side of the gates, I felt as if I was in Palastine.

    The headline should read "The sikhs do a dodgy deal" or "The Apartheid Sikhs""
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Bradford Sikh temple defends Barkerend area gates installation

Gurdwara President Ranbir Singh Gurdwara President Ranbir Singh

Sikhs who put up big gates in a Bradford street have defended their move by saying they had the community’s best interests at heart.

President of the Gobind Singh Gurdwara, Ranbir Singh, said it was never the temple’s intention to upset anyone or cause any bitter feelings.

He said the reason for the gates was to make the street safer by keeping drug dealers out and by creating a set place for car parking for the temple, rather than people parking elsewhere.

On Tuesday the Telegraph & Argus reported how people living in and around Ventnor Street were angry the pair of 6ft blue padlocked iron gates had appeared suddenly.

Claims were made that the gates were dividing the community by blocking traffic access and left just enough room for one person on foot to squeeze through.

About 20 people turned up at ward councillor Imran Khan’s surgery to complain and demand answers.

But John Rowley, Bradford Council's principal engineer, has since made it clear the Guru Gobind Singh Temple had been given permission back in 2009 to make that part of Ventnor Street private access and into a car park – no objections were made at that time.

Allegations of the temple splitting the community by putting up the gates has offended its members, said Mr Singh.

He added: “Our community is not happy. We have good relationships with the Bradford community as a whole. We think of ourself as Bradfordians now – not Indians. We have never tried to split any community, we have many friends.

“We don’t want any trouble. We are wanting to make things better in that area. We bought that land from the Council so it is now private and we have to protect it. As well as blocking out the drug dealing that was happening in that corner it will cause less congestion with parking on the streets when we have our celebrations.

“Also, because the land is now private we are liable if anyone had an accident on it and we don’t want to be sued. Those are the only reasons why we put up the gates.”

Inspector Andy Gallant said he was aware the application for the gates had been made some time ago. He added: “Since then, there has been a significant amount of work undertaken to tackle anti-social behaviour and related issues in the area.

“In the last six weeks alone, we have recorded a 60 per cent reduction in calls relating to anti-social behaviour in that area.”

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