Bankfoot resident who fought plan fear it's not the end

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Campaigners are celebrating the withdrawal of a controversial planning application for a drug therapy centre on their doorsteps.

A protest began over the plans by the city-centre based drug treatment charity the Bridge Project to create a counselling centre for substance misusers at Carr Bottom Road, Bankfoot.

Hundreds of people living nearby were infuriated that they were not properly notified of the scheme and were initially kept in the dark about the organisation behind it.

Earlier this week they learned that NHS Bradford and Airedale commissioned the project after a contract was awarded to Bridge by Bradford Safer Communities Partnership. It would see Bridge taking over the services run by Ripple in Butter-shaw from July.

But in a late twist it was confirmed yesterday that the application to use 1 Bankfield House, Holroyd Busi-ness Centre, for the therapy centre had been withdrawn and other options were being considered.

One resident, Vicky Williams, said people were still concerned that the application could be re-submitted.

She said: “Residents agree that schemes like the Bridge Project should run, but not here. We don’t have a need for a centre like this.

“I would also like to point out how under-handed this has been – it was only by chance we found out who put the planning application in.”

Councillor Ralph Berry (Lab, Wibsey) said: “It’s a shocking breach of procedure. People have a full entitlement to be aware of what is being proposed in their community.

“We are therefore glad that reason has prevailed at this point and the application has been withdrawn.”

A spokesman for NHS Bradford and Airedale said: “Bridge has withdrawn its planning application for the Carr Bottom Road premises in order to review its options.”

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10:25am Thu 27 May 10

Mick De Bull says...

Great turnout by the residents its nice to see everybody sticking together on this isssue
Great turnout by the residents its nice to see everybody sticking together on this isssue Mick De Bull

10:39am Thu 27 May 10

Old Dave says...

Are these people for real??

how many of them complain when druggys break into their houses? and then a charity tries to do something about it and they complain.

NIMBYS!!!!!!

there by the grace of God. I hope that these people or their families never have a need for the help of these projects.
Are these people for real?? how many of them complain when druggys break into their houses? and then a charity tries to do something about it and they complain. NIMBYS!!!!!! there by the grace of God. I hope that these people or their families never have a need for the help of these projects. Old Dave

10:57am Thu 27 May 10

albion says...

Old Dave wrote:
Are these people for real??

how many of them complain when druggys break into their houses? and then a charity tries to do something about it and they complain.

NIMBYS!!!!!!

there by the grace of God. I hope that these people or their families never have a need for the help of these projects.
I wouldnt have wanted it anywhere near my home either.
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Are these people for real?? how many of them complain when druggys break into their houses? and then a charity tries to do something about it and they complain. NIMBYS!!!!!! there by the grace of God. I hope that these people or their families never have a need for the help of these projects.[/p][/quote]I wouldnt have wanted it anywhere near my home either. albion

11:29am Thu 27 May 10

concerned person says...

No one that is of reasonable intelligence would like this next to their homes maybe the Bridge Project should look at putting it next to Old Daves home as he is so sympathetic to them. Extremley well done the residents of Carr Bottom Road may there be more people like you and less of the scum that we seem to have these days.
No one that is of reasonable intelligence would like this next to their homes maybe the Bridge Project should look at putting it next to Old Daves home as he is so sympathetic to them. Extremley well done the residents of Carr Bottom Road may there be more people like you and less of the scum that we seem to have these days. concerned person

11:53am Thu 27 May 10

georgetiddy says...

Is It Not Surprising, That When This Sort Of Thing Is Tried To Be Placed On Residents Doorsteps, That People Like "OLD DAVE" Comes In With Uneducated Responses
Well OLD DAVE, If You Want One On Your Doorstep, Then Be Our Guest & Ring The People Who Want This Businness, To Put One In Your Backyard, Then See What You Have To Say Then
Is It Not Surprising, That When This Sort Of Thing Is Tried To Be Placed On Residents Doorsteps, That People Like "OLD DAVE" Comes In With Uneducated Responses Well OLD DAVE, If You Want One On Your Doorstep, Then Be Our Guest & Ring The People Who Want This Businness, To Put One In Your Backyard, Then See What You Have To Say Then georgetiddy

12:02pm Thu 27 May 10

georgetiddy says...

Old Dave wrote:
Are these people for real?? how many of them complain when druggys break into their houses? and then a charity tries to do something about it and they complain. NIMBYS!!!!!! there by the grace of God. I hope that these people or their families never have a need for the help of these projects.
We Would Not Have This Sort Of Thing Going On, IF Todays People Took Notice Of Good Sense, & Learned To Respect & were Diciplined
They Choose This Stupidity, & Then Want The Public To Feel Sorry For Them, & Spend Our Taxes On Them, NO WAY, They Are A Liability To Whole Communitoes, Makes One Wonder About This So Called "OLD DAVE" ?????????
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Are these people for real?? how many of them complain when druggys break into their houses? and then a charity tries to do something about it and they complain. NIMBYS!!!!!! there by the grace of God. I hope that these people or their families never have a need for the help of these projects.[/p][/quote]We Would Not Have This Sort Of Thing Going On, IF Todays People Took Notice Of Good Sense, & Learned To Respect & were Diciplined They Choose This Stupidity, & Then Want The Public To Feel Sorry For Them, & Spend Our Taxes On Them, NO WAY, They Are A Liability To Whole Communitoes, Makes One Wonder About This So Called "OLD DAVE" ????????? georgetiddy

12:13pm Thu 27 May 10

Storck says...

Where I live we already have a Bridge project almost next door and I can say we have very little trouble from them. If there were more spread around the area each one would only have to be small and therefore the chances of trouble would be even less.
Where I live we already have a Bridge project almost next door and I can say we have very little trouble from them. If there were more spread around the area each one would only have to be small and therefore the chances of trouble would be even less. Storck

12:26pm Thu 27 May 10

georgetiddy says...

Storck wrote:
Where I live we already have a Bridge project almost next door and I can say we have very little trouble from them. If there were more spread around the area each one would only have to be small and therefore the chances of trouble would be even less.
Where are the houses in The City Centre, & we Reiterate
IF These People Listened & Took Notice Of Good Advice, & Did Not Do This Stupid Anti Socialism
There Would Not Be Need FOR ANY
So Called Bridge Projects
But Unfortunately Some Think They Can do Just As They Like, & BLAME OTHERS
[quote][p][bold]Storck[/bold] wrote: Where I live we already have a Bridge project almost next door and I can say we have very little trouble from them. If there were more spread around the area each one would only have to be small and therefore the chances of trouble would be even less.[/p][/quote]Where are the houses in The City Centre, & we Reiterate IF These People Listened & Took Notice Of Good Advice, & Did Not Do This Stupid Anti Socialism There Would Not Be Need FOR ANY So Called Bridge Projects But Unfortunately Some Think They Can do Just As They Like, & BLAME OTHERS georgetiddy

1:15pm Thu 27 May 10

Hockens Hey says...

Plans for a treatment centre knocked back at a time when three women hooked on drugs have been murdered less than a couple of miles away.
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As Old Dave says, there but for the grace of God, and let's hope none of the Bankfoot residents ever need the services of this charity for their children.
Plans for a treatment centre knocked back at a time when three women hooked on drugs have been murdered less than a couple of miles away. . As Old Dave says, there but for the grace of God, and let's hope none of the Bankfoot residents ever need the services of this charity for their children. Hockens Hey

1:27pm Thu 27 May 10

AntiDrug says...

Hockens Hey wrote:
Plans for a treatment centre knocked back at a time when three women hooked on drugs have been murdered less than a couple of miles away. . As Old Dave says, there but for the grace of God, and let's hope none of the Bankfoot residents ever need the services of this charity for their children.
They Chose Their Anti Social Life
Yes Lets Hope Bankfoot Residents
Dont Ever Need This Service,
Lets Hope That They Have Better Sense, Then They Wont Need Them
No Excuses For Them Who Dont Use Common sense , They Are warned By Every Media There Is, & Still Have No Respect & Self Dicipline
No Sypathy, From Law abiding Citizens
[quote][p][bold]Hockens Hey[/bold] wrote: Plans for a treatment centre knocked back at a time when three women hooked on drugs have been murdered less than a couple of miles away. . As Old Dave says, there but for the grace of God, and let's hope none of the Bankfoot residents ever need the services of this charity for their children.[/p][/quote]They Chose Their Anti Social Life Yes Lets Hope Bankfoot Residents Dont Ever Need This Service, Lets Hope That They Have Better Sense, Then They Wont Need Them No Excuses For Them Who Dont Use Common sense , They Are warned By Every Media There Is, & Still Have No Respect & Self Dicipline No Sypathy, From Law abiding Citizens AntiDrug

1:34pm Thu 27 May 10

Old Dave says...

Good God, Its getting like Nazi Germany in here!!! what should we do, round them all up and exterminate them?

Actually, I live less than 200 yards from 2 drug projects, and they are so well run that If i didnt know of their existence through work, I wouldnt have known they were there. the people who attend these projects are the ones who have accepted that their lives have become derailed and they need help. I pity some people, and wonder why Bradford is becoming such a backward place with such bigoted, opinionated people around.
Good God, Its getting like Nazi Germany in here!!! what should we do, round them all up and exterminate them? Actually, I live less than 200 yards from 2 drug projects, and they are so well run that If i didnt know of their existence through work, I wouldnt have known they were there. the people who attend these projects are the ones who have accepted that their lives have become derailed and they need help. I pity some people, and wonder why Bradford is becoming such a backward place with such bigoted, opinionated people around. Old Dave

2:44pm Thu 27 May 10

Juice Terry says...

How many of these "campaigners" live near a pub? Surely it's less bother to live near a place where people are committed to ending a relationship with mind altering substances as opposed to living near a place that celebrates it?
How many of these "campaigners" live near a pub? Surely it's less bother to live near a place where people are committed to ending a relationship with mind altering substances as opposed to living near a place that celebrates it? Juice Terry

4:03pm Thu 27 May 10

AntiDrug says...

If You Want Them, Then Your Welcome

AS GORDON BROWN SAID
ENGLAND IS TO SOFT
If You Want Them, Then Your Welcome AS GORDON BROWN SAID ENGLAND IS TO SOFT AntiDrug

4:10pm Thu 27 May 10

AntiDrug says...

Old Dave wrote:
Good God, Its getting like Nazi Germany in here!!! what should we do, round them all up and exterminate them? Actually, I live less than 200 yards from 2 drug projects, and they are so well run that If i didnt know of their existence through work, I wouldnt have known they were there. the people who attend these projects are the ones who have accepted that their lives have become derailed and they need help. I pity some people, and wonder why Bradford is becoming such a backward place with such bigoted, opinionated people around.
GOOD GOD, Yes,
Your First Sentence Would Be The Best Answer,
if These Places Are So Good ?
Why Do They Carry On Giving Them Drugs & Needles
??
Like Methodone, Then They Sell that To kids, Get Them Hooked, & Then Spend That Money On Further Drugs
Wake Up, Sleepy Head
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Good God, Its getting like Nazi Germany in here!!! what should we do, round them all up and exterminate them? Actually, I live less than 200 yards from 2 drug projects, and they are so well run that If i didnt know of their existence through work, I wouldnt have known they were there. the people who attend these projects are the ones who have accepted that their lives have become derailed and they need help. I pity some people, and wonder why Bradford is becoming such a backward place with such bigoted, opinionated people around.[/p][/quote]GOOD GOD, Yes, Your First Sentence Would Be The Best Answer, if These Places Are So Good ? Why Do They Carry On Giving Them Drugs & Needles ?? Like Methodone, Then They Sell that To kids, Get Them Hooked, & Then Spend That Money On Further Drugs Wake Up, Sleepy Head AntiDrug

4:14pm Thu 27 May 10

AntiDrug says...

Bradford IS Becoming A Backward Place WHY, Because Of This
Anti Social Behavour
Proven Time & Time Again
Bradford IS Becoming A Backward Place WHY, Because Of This Anti Social Behavour Proven Time & Time Again AntiDrug

4:42pm Thu 27 May 10

Hockens Hey says...

'AntiDrug' is an interesting change of account name for someone so opposed to a charity that helps users beat their addiction to drugs.
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No point arguing on here. But I'd be very surprised if there won't be someone in that photo at the top of the page who's life, in one way or another, will be touched by addiction in the future. Then, when it's too late, they'll realise the merits of a place like this.
'AntiDrug' is an interesting change of account name for someone so opposed to a charity that helps users beat their addiction to drugs. . No point arguing on here. But I'd be very surprised if there won't be someone in that photo at the top of the page who's life, in one way or another, will be touched by addiction in the future. Then, when it's too late, they'll realise the merits of a place like this. Hockens Hey

5:14pm Thu 27 May 10

MyleftPenguin says...

AntiDrug wrote:
Bradford IS Becoming A Backward Place WHY, Because Of This
Anti Social Behavour
Proven Time & Time Again
Bradford might indeed be a backward place but on the strength of that post I can't help feeling that removing you from the gene pool might go some way to redressing the balance.
[quote][p][bold]AntiDrug[/bold] wrote: Bradford IS Becoming A Backward Place WHY, Because Of This Anti Social Behavour Proven Time & Time Again[/p][/quote]Bradford might indeed be a backward place but on the strength of that post I can't help feeling that removing you from the gene pool might go some way to redressing the balance. MyleftPenguin

6:02pm Thu 27 May 10

AntiDrug says...

Are You Talking About As YOU Say Yourself

It Seems Like You, Are The Negative Balance
Never Used To Be Backward, Drugs Are the Cause And Any One With An Ounce Of Grey Matter Knows It
Like The Prostitutes, Read It, ALL To Do With Drugs
See What Happens, ?
No Contest
Are You Talking About As YOU Say Yourself It Seems Like You, Are The Negative Balance Never Used To Be Backward, Drugs Are the Cause And Any One With An Ounce Of Grey Matter Knows It Like The Prostitutes, Read It, ALL To Do With Drugs See What Happens, ? No Contest AntiDrug

8:48pm Thu 27 May 10

Shipleygirl says...

I have to comment on this one...I agree that these kind of projects should exist and the people who have commented that they live near similar projects and have had little or no trouble...that is encouraging. Having spoken to someone who lives in Bankfoot, the main conern is that that the residents weren't consulted properly over the application. The NHS and Bridge Project should be very aware that residents are not going to welcome a project like that so why did they not consult and communicate with residents properly rather than trying to sneak the planning permission through (which is what they did, and why they have withdrawn the application, and why 3 councillors attended the meeting the other night)...neighbourho
ods should be places where residents feel safe and if Bridge project want to have a centre for substance misuse in a residential area then they should work with communities not alienate them by not consulting them...its not fair on residents or substance users who need help is it? The NHS and Bridge Project are to blame here for not communicating, not the residents of Bankfoot.
I have to comment on this one...I agree that these kind of projects should exist and the people who have commented that they live near similar projects and have had little or no trouble...that is encouraging. Having spoken to someone who lives in Bankfoot, the main conern is that that the residents weren't consulted properly over the application. The NHS and Bridge Project should be very aware that residents are not going to welcome a project like that so why did they not consult and communicate with residents properly rather than trying to sneak the planning permission through (which is what they did, and why they have withdrawn the application, and why 3 councillors attended the meeting the other night)...neighbourho ods should be places where residents feel safe and if Bridge project want to have a centre for substance misuse in a residential area then they should work with communities not alienate them by not consulting them...its not fair on residents or substance users who need help is it? The NHS and Bridge Project are to blame here for not communicating, not the residents of Bankfoot. Shipleygirl

11:18pm Thu 27 May 10

AntiDrug says...

Well Said Shipley Girl,
See What Tin God Attitude Does
We Are All Fed Up With These Tin Gods
Thinking They Can Do Just As They Please, By Back Door Antics
And Telling Us What We Have To do,
Well This Time It Backfired,
Great To see a Community Back Together
Like We Used Yo Be, KEEP TOGETHER
Dont Ignore Each Other, Residents Help Each Other, You Can Win The Fight Against Red Tape & Buarocracy
If You Stick Together, Well Done The Residents Of Carr Bottom Road BD5
Well Said Shipley Girl, See What Tin God Attitude Does We Are All Fed Up With These Tin Gods Thinking They Can Do Just As They Please, By Back Door Antics And Telling Us What We Have To do, Well This Time It Backfired, Great To see a Community Back Together Like We Used Yo Be, KEEP TOGETHER Dont Ignore Each Other, Residents Help Each Other, You Can Win The Fight Against Red Tape & Buarocracy If You Stick Together, Well Done The Residents Of Carr Bottom Road BD5 AntiDrug

1:06pm Fri 28 May 10

ItchyBungle says...

You people truly make me want to throw up! I am ashamed to think that i live in a city with so many people who are not happy when a needed service is going to be located near them. I HATE NIMBYs!! These people are in drugs treament services and for the majority of them, the ongoing support that is needed is often provided by the voluntary sector in the community and the people who are receiving this service are LESS likely to be involved in crime and other "anti-social" behaviours that all of you want to see reduced.
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Addicts do not choose the life they lead and deserve the opportunity to purt their lives back in order. Would you complain if a Stop Smoking Service is on your doorstep? After all these people also suffer from an addiction that is best dealt with in the community. I agree that this is slightly different but it is a very thin margin and all we are really talking about is a matter of the degree of the problem.
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CDTS (Community Drug Treatment Services) have been shown to help to tackle the issues of drug-related crime and a lot of this is down to commissioned services in the local community (such as the Bridge Project, RIPPLE, etc.) so why would you NOT want this near you? Do you think it might bring the value of your house down? The fact is that if it was there you would probably not even know that it exists there.
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If you want the issues that affect your area to be out-of-sight out-of-mind then I hope you lead happy lives with your blinkers on and that your life never takes a downward spiral and when you need these services you are not left wondering what kind of self-centered individuals would protest against something like this!
You people truly make me want to throw up! I am ashamed to think that i live in a city with so many people who are not happy when a needed service is going to be located near them. I HATE NIMBYs!! These people are in drugs treament services and for the majority of them, the ongoing support that is needed is often provided by the voluntary sector in the community and the people who are receiving this service are LESS likely to be involved in crime and other "anti-social" behaviours that all of you want to see reduced. . Addicts do not choose the life they lead and deserve the opportunity to purt their lives back in order. Would you complain if a Stop Smoking Service is on your doorstep? After all these people also suffer from an addiction that is best dealt with in the community. I agree that this is slightly different but it is a very thin margin and all we are really talking about is a matter of the degree of the problem. . CDTS (Community Drug Treatment Services) have been shown to help to tackle the issues of drug-related crime and a lot of this is down to commissioned services in the local community (such as the Bridge Project, RIPPLE, etc.) so why would you NOT want this near you? Do you think it might bring the value of your house down? The fact is that if it was there you would probably not even know that it exists there. . If you want the issues that affect your area to be out-of-sight out-of-mind then I hope you lead happy lives with your blinkers on and that your life never takes a downward spiral and when you need these services you are not left wondering what kind of self-centered individuals would protest against something like this! ItchyBungle

11:03am Sat 29 May 10

AntiDrug says...

You Hate NIMBY's ?
Then you must hate yourself Top Whack, as you sre the bigest NIMBY
Addicts do not choose the life they lead Talk about NIMBY's, Who Does Choose their life , & Smoking, People dont Rob, Steal, Attack , To Fund Their Habit, & They dont get freebies, They have to pay,
there is no contest, & If you Listen & Learn To read, Nobody, says that These places are not needed, BUT Place them In More Appropriate & Agreeable Places, But you will never stop these idiots, Until Education , Dicipline, Self Respect Is Got Back To what it used to be, & What % sucess is achieved by these places, Very Small & Costs Millions
THEY CHOOSE THEIR LIFE No One Else, WE ALL Have a choice
If You Cannot Stand The HEAT, Then Get Out Of The Kitchen
You Hate NIMBY's ? Then you must hate yourself Top Whack, as you sre the bigest NIMBY Addicts do not choose the life they lead Talk about NIMBY's, Who Does Choose their life , & Smoking, People dont Rob, Steal, Attack , To Fund Their Habit, & They dont get freebies, They have to pay, there is no contest, & If you Listen & Learn To read, Nobody, says that These places are not needed, BUT Place them In More Appropriate & Agreeable Places, But you will never stop these idiots, Until Education , Dicipline, Self Respect Is Got Back To what it used to be, & What % sucess is achieved by these places, Very Small & Costs Millions THEY CHOOSE THEIR LIFE No One Else, WE ALL Have a choice If You Cannot Stand The HEAT, Then Get Out Of The Kitchen AntiDrug

2:29pm Wed 2 Jun 10

MarkPullen says...

People always have a choice in their lives - such as being able to learn to spell and use capitals where applicable.
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There is no excuse for abusing your body with chemicals, and others with bad vocabulary.
People always have a choice in their lives - such as being able to learn to spell and use capitals where applicable. . There is no excuse for abusing your body with chemicals, and others with bad vocabulary. MarkPullen

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