Respect defeat leaves Bradford Council without a leader (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Previously, Party affiliation was affected by class. Now, at least in Bradford, it appears affected by ethnicity. A new type of politics is dawning in Bradford and it is something our political leaders will have to take note of.

vbfg wrote:
If you two usual suspects think only Asian people are voting Respect you're kidding yourselves with your own bigotted ignorance.

Albion. wrote:

vbfg wrote:
If you two usual suspects think only Asian people are voting Respect you're kidding yourselves with your own bigotted ignorance.

It's more likely to be the voters who were kidding themselves.
Of more interest are the Mayoral votes, with a lot of NOs so far.

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

vbfg wrote:
If you two usual suspects think only Asian people are voting Respect you're kidding yourselves with your own bigotted ignorance.

darkhorse (he's a) wrote:

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

Any segregation that has happened within this once great city has been SELF segregation. With large parts of the minority population refusing to become involved with the indigenous population, with purposefully choosing to live within their own community they/ you cannot then
Turn around and blame everybody else. The problem in every other racial community in Bradford has integrated, and respected the culture of the country they have chosen to become part of. Many years ago the council had a policy of integration through schools, ensuring children from all areas were taught together which had an impact On funding for other areas of education. This ended because the minority did not want it!

darkhorse (he's a) wrote:

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

Any segregation that has happened within this once great city has been SELF segregation. With large parts of the minority population refusing to become involved with the indigenous population, with purposefully choosing to live within their own community they/ you cannot then
Turn around and blame everybody else. The problem in every other racial community in Bradford has integrated, and respected the culture of the country they have chosen to become part of. Many years ago the council had a policy of integration through schools, ensuring children from all areas were taught together which had an impact On funding for other areas of education. This ended because the minority did not want it!

Old Dave wrote:
George Galloway is indeed a very astute man. He was aware of a significant number of Bradford West's population that did not have any political affiliation, and who were ripe for the picking. Yes, many of these were people of Asian origin, mostly Muslim, but do not be fooled into thinking that only Muslims vote respect! There is a saying "in a democracy, the people get the politicians they deserve." That is only too true here in Bradford, it's just that one man had the intelligence to try and engage with people who previously felt that nobody spoke for them. Time will tell if Galloway and respect are here today, gone tomorrow.
I dont agree with a lot of what Galloway says, and I definitely dont like the way he goes about things sometimes, but if he can get Bradford spoken about as a place that is moving forward, he cannot be anything but good.

The acid test is the next six months. Since his election, he's made some bold statements regarding the Odeon, Westfield, and the two professional sports clubs. Lets see how he does. Out of those four 'projects' if he gets two of them up and running, he will have done more for this city than many politicians who were born and bred Bradfordians, have in the last 20 years. There isnt now an election campaign to win, the parliamentary seat and council seats are decided, so lets see how respect make a difference. If they dont, you can say "we told you so!" if they do we all win! so for the doom mongers who dont like respect and Galloway, you cant lose!

Happy Friday everyone!!!!

vbfg wrote:
If you two usual suspects think only Asian people are voting Respect you're kidding yourselves with your own bigotted ignorance.

thingybob68 wrote:

darkhorse (he's a) wrote:

thingybob68 wrote: at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice. theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer. As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

Any segregation that has happened within this once great city has been SELF segregation. With large parts of the minority population refusing to become involved with the indigenous population, with purposefully choosing to live within their own community they/ you cannot then Turn around and blame everybody else. The problem in every other racial community in Bradford has integrated, and respected the culture of the country they have chosen to become part of. Many years ago the council had a policy of integration through schools, ensuring children from all areas were taught together which had an impact On funding for other areas of education. This ended because the minority did not want it!

look up the term white flight, and explain the contant harrassment and racism against non whites in the 60s, 70s and every other decade from the NF, to the BNP to the EDF, the names change but the people and the sentiment remain the same the onslaught is endless. And you say its one way - are you on strong medication?

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What great news, bye bye Mr Greenwood, don't let the door hit you on the backside whilst you leave.
Lets hope the next leader of the council actually does something rather than peddling out excuse after excuse for incompetance.

Mike Strutter wrote:
Let the smoke screen clear and you will see it isn't Greenwood (much as I don't like him) that is the problem but people like Reeves and Barra Mac who are totally unelected.
The councillors have very little or no power, they are just a front to make the electorate think they actually have a say

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Over the years Mr Greenwood has assiduously courted the Asian vote: he must be quite bitter now they've turned on him. Arf!

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Over the years Mr Greenwood has assiduously courted the Asian vote: he must be quite bitter now they've turned on him. Arf!

Mike Strutter wrote:
Let the smoke screen clear and you will see it isn't Greenwood (much as I don't like him) that is the problem but people like Reeves and Barra Mac who are totally unelected.
The councillors have very little or no power, they are just a front to make the electorate think they actually have a say

Mike Strutter wrote:
Let the smoke screen clear and you will see it isn't Greenwood (much as I don't like him) that is the problem but people like Reeves and Barra Mac who are totally unelected.
The councillors have very little or no power, they are just a front to make the electorate think they actually have a say

tyker2 wrote:
Forget ethnicity! Time for change. Bring it on.get westfield to the table now, start creating Hobson and get the city working again by creating wealth and inner well being by creation of jobs. City Hall sits at the centre of a rotting city and those within for the last 20years or so have to take a long peaceful look at what they have done to this great city. Long may they look on. Westfield,as a start, has to start building now and,if they cannot commit to so build within six months, they should be thrown out.time for positivity in this city to dismember the negativity which has been allowed to pervade this city for so many years.

Old Dave wrote:
George Galloway is indeed a very astute man. He was aware of a significant number of Bradford West's population that did not have any political affiliation, and who were ripe for the picking. Yes, many of these were people of Asian origin, mostly Muslim, but do not be fooled into thinking that only Muslims vote respect! There is a saying "in a democracy, the people get the politicians they deserve." That is only too true here in Bradford, it's just that one man had the intelligence to try and engage with people who previously felt that nobody spoke for them. Time will tell if Galloway and respect are here today, gone tomorrow.
I dont agree with a lot of what Galloway says, and I definitely dont like the way he goes about things sometimes, but if he can get Bradford spoken about as a place that is moving forward, he cannot be anything but good.

The acid test is the next six months. Since his election, he's made some bold statements regarding the Odeon, Westfield, and the two professional sports clubs. Lets see how he does. Out of those four 'projects' if he gets two of them up and running, he will have done more for this city than many politicians who were born and bred Bradfordians, have in the last 20 years. There isnt now an election campaign to win, the parliamentary seat and council seats are decided, so lets see how respect make a difference. If they dont, you can say "we told you so!" if they do we all win! so for the doom mongers who dont like respect and Galloway, you cant lose!

Happy Friday everyone!!!!

tyker2 wrote:

tyker2 wrote:
Forget ethnicity! Time for change. Bring it on.get westfield to the table now, start creating Hobson and get the city working again by creating wealth and inner well being by creation of jobs. City Hall sits at the centre of a rotting city and those within for the last 20years or so have to take a long peaceful look at what they have done to this great city. Long may they look on. Westfield,as a start, has to start building now and,if they cannot commit to so build within six months, they should be thrown out.time for positivity in this city to dismember the negativity which has been allowed to pervade this city for so many years.

Creating jobs,what the heck has Hobson to do with it? Predictive text sucks!

darkhorse (he's a) wrote:

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

Any segregation that has happened within this once great city has been SELF segregation. With large parts of the minority population refusing to become involved with the indigenous population, with purposefully choosing to live within their own community they/ you cannot then
Turn around and blame everybody else. The problem in every other racial community in Bradford has integrated, and respected the culture of the country they have chosen to become part of. Many years ago the council had a policy of integration through schools, ensuring children from all areas were taught together which had an impact On funding for other areas of education. This ended because the minority did not want it!

Gemzki-Lou wrote:
""""at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice."""
quoted: ... seriosuly? FINALLY get a voice? behave! it irritates me how people make it sound like asians and minority groups are victims and don't get this and that! have a look at the figures of these; Most of the unemployed sponging benefites are non white as they can't speak english and refuse to learn - and most of the drug dealers and money launderers are non whites. you speak about non-whites being victims and FINALLY having a voice - give me a break!..... They CHOOSE not to integrate with the white community and think they can bring in their own ridiculous laws - and not bide by our own? excuse me but i think THEY'RE the ignorant pig headed ones. so DO NOT talk as if they're targeted! because most of them have it better than us!.....

Camicus wrote:
Have a look at the respect website then tell us its not a part for the Asian community. THEY are making this about race not us.

Idontunderstand wrote:
So Mr Greenwood, no Councillor wage or expenses to live on now. You just might find out what living on JSA is like, although I suspect you have become intentially jobless as you voluntarily put yourself up for election, therefore you should be exempt for 26 weeks. probably get HB though....

AAA.Happy.Man wrote:

Mike Strutter wrote:
Let the smoke screen clear and you will see it isn't Greenwood (much as I don't like him) that is the problem but people like Reeves and Barra Mac who are totally unelected.
The councillors have very little or no power, they are just a front to make the electorate think they actually have a say

Your point is taken, MS.
BUT
There is a great element of incompetence, inexperience, laziness, lack of skill, too many outside interests, etc, involved in what you correctly highlight.
Taking the example of most organizations:
The 'Chair' is elected, the CEO - appointed.
The Board - a mixture of NEDs, and Execs, makes Policy - the Executive brings it about.
If the Execs don't, or more seriously won't, they are 'Asked to leave.'
The dog wags the tail !

Is it possible that you are suggesting that lilly livered elected Portfolio holders on OUR Council are allowing the tail to wag our dog?
No! That could never be!
You're damned right, MS, it does!
(No comments about what is delivered to us from under the dog's tail, please.)

yorkshiredude wrote:
Well, no people outside my polling station encouraging me to vote. We got a 28 year old woman winning in the City ward.

I look forward to Labour being held to account from the left and a new leader of the council.

People talking about Greenwood's legacy do seem to forget about the Tory-Lib Dem coalition that presided over the council for many years in the 2000s.

URBAN WARRIOR wrote:
Its going to be interesting to see if respect are going to keep their promises and what GG is going to do for Bradford , from his track record not very much , its also going to be interesting to see how long before some off the respect newly elected Councillors switch to labour once they cant deliver on there promises .

yorkshirepud61 wrote:
Unfortunately Labour has only had 2 years to put right 10 years of Tory mismanagement in Bradford. The Westfield site is a private venture and due to the downturn in the economy we have been left in the lurch, the Odeon again is in private hands and should be demolished,lets get Bradford back on its feet, WITHOUT Galloway he's got his job in Whitehall where will he stand next. Very sad to see Ian Greenwood loosing his seat, tribeal voting at it's worst.

Albion. wrote:
So! Reality check, Respect predicted nine wins and got five, Respect predicted having the balance of power and failed, Respect predicted a win for an elected mayor, there was a "no" vote, Respect also predicted that they would win the resulting Mayoral Election, There won't be an election. Greenwood lost his seat but his party took control of the council.
Labour got in because the Tories are making unpopular decisions at national level, the Tories got in at national level because Brown mucked up Labours chances.
And so the merry-go-round continues (with a slight intrusion from a short-term visitor).

ra1nyn1ght wrote:

Albion. wrote:
So! Reality check, Respect predicted nine wins and got five, Respect predicted having the balance of power and failed, Respect predicted a win for an elected mayor, there was a "no" vote, Respect also predicted that they would win the resulting Mayoral Election, There won't be an election. Greenwood lost his seat but his party took control of the council.
Labour got in because the Tories are making unpopular decisions at national level, the Tories got in at national level because Brown mucked up Labours chances.
And so the merry-go-round continues (with a slight intrusion from a short-term visitor).

same old, same old tripe from you albino - change the record please? Let us give these people a chance? If they don't perform then no doubt in 4 years time they won't get re-elected, simple! And in any event, Albino, it has been suggested you cast your vote for Respect so why so much hatred? Time will tell if GG is a short time visitor or whether he remains here for years to come and attracts jobs and investment, time will tell. Now do1 you sad old man

darkhorse (he's a) wrote:

thingybob68 wrote: at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice. theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer. As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

Any segregation that has happened within this once great city has been SELF segregation. With large parts of the minority population refusing to become involved with the indigenous population, with purposefully choosing to live within their own community they/ you cannot then Turn around and blame everybody else. The problem in every other racial community in Bradford has integrated, and respected the culture of the country they have chosen to become part of. Many years ago the council had a policy of integration through schools, ensuring children from all areas were taught together which had an impact On funding for other areas of education. This ended because the minority did not want it!

Steam Pigs wrote:
Reports last night of the Lib Dems calling the police following an aggressive incident involving Respect and Labour and Respect voters clashing – why isn’t the T&A reporting this????

thelastmanstanding wrote:
I must say, the Labour party deserve this bloody nose that they are getting off the pro-Islamic party.

The Labour party thought, with their open door policy to immigration, that they would be in power forever due to immigrants traditionally ALWAYS voting Labour.

Along comes the Respect Party though and offers them everything except Shariah law, and they steal the Muslim block vote.

So now, some white people still vote Labour, which as someone pointed out, is a bit like Turkeys voting for Christmas as it was them who opened our borders in an attempt to "Get Whitey" and Gerrymander us. As Longshanks said, "If we can't get them out, we will breed them out". Their experimenthas backfired though and they will now have to do everything they can to hold onto the votes from the community they tried to destroy.

Albion. wrote:

thelastmanstanding wrote:
I must say, the Labour party deserve this bloody nose that they are getting off the pro-Islamic party.

The Labour party thought, with their open door policy to immigration, that they would be in power forever due to immigrants traditionally ALWAYS voting Labour.

Along comes the Respect Party though and offers them everything except Shariah law, and they steal the Muslim block vote.

So now, some white people still vote Labour, which as someone pointed out, is a bit like Turkeys voting for Christmas as it was them who opened our borders in an attempt to "Get Whitey" and Gerrymander us. As Longshanks said, "If we can't get them out, we will breed them out". Their experimenthas backfired though and they will now have to do everything they can to hold onto the votes from the community they tried to destroy.

What "bloody nose"? They just won control of the council!

Clowny wrote:

Albion. wrote:

thelastmanstanding wrote:
I must say, the Labour party deserve this bloody nose that they are getting off the pro-Islamic party.

The Labour party thought, with their open door policy to immigration, that they would be in power forever due to immigrants traditionally ALWAYS voting Labour.

Along comes the Respect Party though and offers them everything except Shariah law, and they steal the Muslim block vote.

So now, some white people still vote Labour, which as someone pointed out, is a bit like Turkeys voting for Christmas as it was them who opened our borders in an attempt to "Get Whitey" and Gerrymander us. As Longshanks said, "If we can't get them out, we will breed them out". Their experimenthas backfired though and they will now have to do everything they can to hold onto the votes from the community they tried to destroy.

What "bloody nose"? They just won control of the council!

Given the national picture for Labour gains, I'd hardly call Bradford a resounding success. Would you?

Albion. wrote:
So! Reality check, Respect predicted nine wins and got five, Respect predicted having the balance of power and failed, Respect predicted a win for an elected mayor, there was a "no" vote, Respect also predicted that they would win the resulting Mayoral Election, There won't be an election. Greenwood lost his seat but his party took control of the council.
Labour got in because the Tories are making unpopular decisions at national level, the Tories got in at national level because Brown mucked up Labours chances.
And so the merry-go-round continues (with a slight intrusion from a short-term visitor).

AntiDrug wrote:
NO MATTER WHO GETS ELECTED, "DO NOT FORGET"
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
"**** TO THE tax paying people" as long as my back pockets full, THATS THEIR MOTTO, No Matter Who They Are, WE HAD NO RACISM HERE UNTIL THE "ASIANS ARRIVED"
& WE "ALL" KNOW THATS THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, They Just Please Themselves What They Do, & IF Anybody Says Owt, Guess What, "ITS RACISM",
The Whites Were NEVER Racist To Anybody, NEVER HEARD THE WORD, Before THE ASIANS CAME HERE, We Have Had Every Race You Can Think Of Before THE ASIANS & Never Had A Problem, With Drugs Etc, & Galloway ??
Strange name for an asian??
Wonder Why He Uses, "George"
George Is BRITISH, Always Was, If Your Ancestory Was BRITISH Then You Are,, If Not YOU AINT You Are A Foreigner & Always Will Be, Nothing To Do With Racism
But Mark My Words ITS ONLY GOING TO GET BLACKER

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Just out of interest what was Greenwood's 'day job' before he became a councillor/Labour leader? Is it 'back to work' for him come Monday (or whenever the investiture of the new councillors occurs)?

Saltaire Bantam wrote:
Bye bye comrade Greenwood. Thanks for ruining the city for the last 17 years. It was in a much better state before you arrived.

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Just out of interest what was Greenwood's 'day job' before he became a councillor/Labour leader? Is it 'back to work' for him come Monday (or whenever the investiture of the new councillors occurs)?

jim75 wrote:
HAHAHAHA!!

Goodbye Ig,youve got to laugh.
The headline reads ...'Council leaderless'.....it has been for years.Greenwoods political career should be buried in the sight dedicated to Westfield.He talks about GG having to deliver on his promises,well you set the bar so low it wouldnt matter if GG delivers nothing he will stilll have delivered more than Greenwood.Last i heard Greenwood was blaming the EDL for his defeat along with global warming and the hole in the ground.pmsl

tyker2 wrote:
Forget ethnicity! Time for change. Bring it on.get westfield to the table now, start creating Hobson and get the city working again by creating wealth and inner well being by creation of jobs. City Hall sits at the centre of a rotting city and those within for the last 20years or so have to take a long peaceful look at what they have done to this great city. Long may they look on. Westfield,as a start, has to start building now and,if they cannot commit to so build within six months, they should be thrown out.time for positivity in this city to dismember the negativity which has been allowed to pervade this city for so many years.

AAA.Happy.Man wrote:

Patrick Bateman wrote:
Just out of interest what was Greenwood's 'day job' before he became a councillor/Labour leader? Is it 'back to work' for him come Monday (or whenever the investiture of the new councillors occurs)?

Hello. Hello.
Earth calling resident of planet Zogg.
Please resume your daily ingestion of reality - you are showing signs of memory disturbance. When you said Mr Greenwood, perhaps you meant Mr Pickles ?

Message repeats:
Hello. ......

parader no1 wrote:
During the whole election campaign no one from ANY party has canvassed my street, nor have I seen any canvassers in the area, Maybe we are taken for granted being a " white area"

AntiDrug wrote:

parader no1 wrote:
During the whole election campaign no one from ANY party has canvassed my street, nor have I seen any canvassers in the area, Maybe we are taken for granted being a " white area"

You Mean Taken For A Ride , By The SO Called RESPECT Party, Who Voted For You Maybe ??

Saltaire Bantam wrote:
Amir Hussain, the Labour councillor for Toller, who was caught holding a grenade launcher easily kept his seat. The voters were impressed with his direct approach and honesty.
Mohammed Khan, the Respect candidate pictured with a gun on the Pakistan/Afgan border just afer September 11th, was beaten to second in Barkerend by his brother.

Idontunderstand wrote:
So Mr Greenwood, no Councillor wage or expenses to live on now. You just might find out what living on JSA is like, although I suspect you have become intentially jobless as you voluntarily put yourself up for election, therefore you should be exempt for 26 weeks. probably get HB though....

Blotto wrote:
Its like watching Turkeys vote for Christmas!

AAA.Happy.Man wrote:

tyker2 wrote:
Forget ethnicity! Time for change. Bring it on.get westfield to the table now, start creating Hobson and get the city working again by creating wealth and inner well being by creation of jobs. City Hall sits at the centre of a rotting city and those within for the last 20years or so have to take a long peaceful look at what they have done to this great city. Long may they look on. Westfield,as a start, has to start building now and,if they cannot commit to so build within six months, they should be thrown out.time for positivity in this city to dismember the negativity which has been allowed to pervade this city for so many years.

Hallelujah, Brothers & Sisters!
All good things come from the gods, all bad things from humankind.
All good things come from Capitalism, all bad things from liberals, leftists, reformers and other crypto commies.
Come off it, Tyker #2

eccythump wrote:
A friend of mine works at one of the schools in Bradford used as a polling station. He told me that the 'Respect' candidates and their acolytes behaved deplorably on Thursday. When they were not arguing with anyone who appeared to be averse to them, they were seen to activley try and strong arm passers-by into coming in to vote for them. I think these people need to look in an English dictionary, at the meaning of the word RESPECT. Then go and change the name of their disgusting party.

Mummys little Sunbeam wrote:
I read all the comments on here, agreeing strongly with some, and totally disagreeing with others (there are a couple I didn't understand!). It appears there has been some "debatable" canvassing and rumors of vote rigging abound, but it seems we now have to sit back and wait for the nirvana promised by Mr Galloway (pbuh) and vote accordingly next time round.

pjl20 wrote:
Some people are claiming that the results in these Bradford elections are indicating a shift away from class to one of ethnicity in the decision about which party and candidate to support.

I see that analysis as a gross over-simplification. The vote, particularly against Council Leader Ian Greenwood, despite his 17 years service, is one of rejection of an administration with an appalling record of poor decision making and spending. The City is now far worse both in terms of the social conditions of the populous and in the poor facilities on offer compared with 30-40 years ago.

Also consider that two MP, Kris Hopkins, Keighley & Ilkley and Phil Davies, Shipley, wish to take their districts out of the Bradford Council control to form a new district council totally separate from the city, with its own elected councillors.

antianti wrote:
why dont all the anti respect commenters on here just give it 6 months and see what GG can do. Then you can judge them on what they have or havent done, not what you all think will happen? GG is the democratically elected mp for bradford, if you dont like next time you can canvass for the lib/con/lab/bnp or the monster raving loony party for all i care.
GG is anti war and anti cuts , im assuming his opponents are pro both the above.

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

webess wrote:

antianti wrote:
why dont all the anti respect commenters on here just give it 6 months and see what GG can do. Then you can judge them on what they have or havent done, not what you all think will happen? GG is the democratically elected mp for bradford, if you dont like next time you can canvass for the lib/con/lab/bnp or the monster raving loony party for all i care.
GG is anti war and anti cuts , im assuming his opponents are pro both the above.

GG does have a track record. A track record of failure, this is his fourth attempt now to be an MP.

Ever wonder why he never lasts more than one term and lost twice in his native Scotland?

lazybeat wrote:

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

well said this town wants to see change and this is a first in its steps. let hope something positive will come from this. before all the hate mongers start criticising, thinking it was down to asian votes for respect, overall they voted a blue eyed white guy. Good luck respect party.

angry bradfordian wrote:

Steam Pigs wrote:
Reports last night of the Lib Dems calling the police following an aggressive incident involving Respect and Labour and Respect voters clashing – why isn’t the T&A reporting this????

Yes, there are also more incidents being reported in The Guardian today.
It's surprising it gets mentioned in a national newspaper first.

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Previously, Party affiliation was affected by class. Now, at least in Bradford, it appears affected by ethnicity. A new type of politics is dawning in Bradford and it is something our political leaders will have to take note of.

vbfg wrote:
If you two usual suspects think only Asian people are voting Respect you're kidding yourselves with your own bigotted ignorance.

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

i hate bradford wrote:

lazybeat wrote:

thingybob68 wrote:
at it again albino, can you not handle non whites voting, why does it upset you so much, are you worried that asians might finally get a voice.

theres been segregagtion in bradford for decades with complete areas, housing etc etc divided amongst racial lines, not that Respect is an asain only party as clearly people from all backgrounds are voting. ive never vote din my life but for hte first time i felt compelled to vote, and yes i voted respect. why? because i want change, i dont want my children growing up in apartheid with sub standard schooling and health services, and im pretty sure many others voted for change for the same reason. As always Albion, you remain an ignorant hate mongerer.

As for you Dicky, why dont yo come down to Bradford and see what else is affected by ethinity, it might be an eye opener for you.

well said this town wants to see change and this is a first in its steps. let hope something positive will come from this. before all the hate mongers start criticising, thinking it was down to asian votes for respect, overall they voted a blue eyed white guy. Good luck respect party.

Islam doesn't care about the colour of someones skin so why did you say that?
why would you pretend the religion is racist to prove a point? why would muslims not vote for a blue eyed white guy??

what you just said is

it isnt asian votes that got him in because after all they are not likely to vote a white guy -therefor it must have been white people who voted him in.

i find your comment racist actually

lonniejockstrap wrote:

angry bradfordian wrote:

Steam Pigs wrote:
Reports last night of the Lib Dems calling the police following an aggressive incident involving Respect and Labour and Respect voters clashing – why isn’t the T&A reporting this????

Yes, there are also more incidents being reported in The Guardian today.
It's surprising it gets mentioned in a national newspaper first.

The T&A hasn't reported that GG has called for the resignation of Tony Reeve, Chief Exec of Bradford Council either. Or that GG is suing Councillor Arshad Hussein for defamation and that his defamation was made using a 'Council telephone' (texting) and, therefore, involves Bradford City Council in what could become a criminal liable case.

Come on T&A keep up!

webess wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

angry bradfordian wrote:

Steam Pigs wrote:
Reports last night of the Lib Dems calling the police following an aggressive incident involving Respect and Labour and Respect voters clashing – why isn’t the T&A reporting this????

Yes, there are also more incidents being reported in The Guardian today.
It's surprising it gets mentioned in a national newspaper first.

The T&A hasn't reported that GG has called for the resignation of Tony Reeve, Chief Exec of Bradford Council either. Or that GG is suing Councillor Arshad Hussein for defamation and that his defamation was made using a 'Council telephone' (texting) and, therefore, involves Bradford City Council in what could become a criminal liable case.

Come on T&A keep up!

Yet another court case where GG is expecting cash because someone's besmirched his good name?
No wonder he's no time to attend parliament.

tyker2 wrote:
There is a call for the city to be rebuilt from the venture out. Politicians of all shades of red through to blue and beyond have failed and,to my ming,wilfully whilst those paid officials have twiddled their expensive pens!
Time ti **** and move Westfield into a position of getting on with it or taking a hit. Let us hope now that people will get off their collective backsides to make sure that those newly elected officials start a proper review,completely it quickly and start work. Target date no later than 1January 2013and,more importantly, keep the public informed of those seeking to block them or withholding information and,of course,PROGRESS!

AAA.Happy.Man wrote:
tyker2 says... 11:47am Sat 5 May 12
' ...to make sure that those newly elected officials start a proper review,completely it quickly ...
---------------
t#2 - Perhaps you'd care to join my On-line guide to the basics of the UK's (So called) Democratic process;
Here's your 1st, Free, PolEdBite.
* Politicians are the ones who are elected and are paid to make Policy on our behalf - that's why they are called Poli-ticians/
* Council Officials are recruited, interviewed and appointed by the Poli-ticians. They are there to Execute the policies decided by the Poli-ticians. that's why those Officials are usually called Execut-ives;
Now - repeat after me :
Poli-ticians = Poli-cies
Execut-ives = Execute the Poli-cies.

NB Execute in this context = Carry out, NOT Kill off, as too many think that it is their un-elected right to do.

Patrick Bateman wrote:
@ AntiDrug:

Your posts are hard work to read. Don't you want to be understood? Why put a capital letter at the beginning of every word? Sorry, it just makes you look silly. The overuse of capitols used for whole words doesn't help either. And you might want to consider ordering your posts into paragraphs (as things stand you come across like some ranting, barely-literate loon).

I hope you find these comments helpful and take them in the spirit in which they are intended.

lonniejockstrap wrote:
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)

Comments anyone?

lonniejockstrap wrote:
"I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people." Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.

How much faith do you have in Politicians and Governments to 'change the system'?

"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain." Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France.

To win at the game you need to know what the rules are. Don't think too hard folks the Real World is stranger than Alison in Wonderland. And once you wake up to who really Governs, then you might -we ALL might- ,collectively, really be able to have an impact on Political change.

Right, I'm off for my dose of 'opium for the masses'. Come on City!, come on City!

lonniejockstrap wrote:
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)

Comments anyone?

Albion. wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:
"I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people." Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.

How much faith do you have in Politicians and Governments to 'change the system'?

"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain." Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France.

To win at the game you need to know what the rules are. Don't think too hard folks the Real World is stranger than Alison in Wonderland. And once you wake up to who really Governs, then you might -we ALL might- ,collectively, really be able to have an impact on Political change.

Right, I'm off for my dose of 'opium for the masses'. Come on City!, come on City!

"Alison"? Now that IS strange.

Albion. wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)

Comments anyone?

http://econproph.com

/2010/11/30/are-bank

s-necessary/ If the right conditions are created the necessary improvisation would take place to allow business and finance to continue.

AAA.Happy.Man wrote:
lonniejockstrap says... 1:17pm Sat 5 May 12
' I like your posts Happy.Man.'
-----------------
You're very kind, thank you L J S.
You do pretty well yourself.

yorkshirepud61 wrote:
Unfortunately Labour has only had 2 years to put right 10 years of Tory mismanagement in Bradford. The Westfield site is a private venture and due to the downturn in the economy we have been left in the lurch, the Odeon again is in private hands and should be demolished,lets get Bradford back on its feet, WITHOUT Galloway he's got his job in Whitehall where will he stand next. Very sad to see Ian Greenwood loosing his seat, tribeal voting at it's worst.

AntiDrug wrote:
NO MATTER WHO GETS ELECTED, "DO NOT FORGET"
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
"**** TO THE tax paying people" as long as my back pockets full, THATS THEIR MOTTO, No Matter Who They Are, WE HAD NO RACISM HERE UNTIL THE "ASIANS ARRIVED"
& WE "ALL" KNOW THATS THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, They Just Please Themselves What They Do, & IF Anybody Says Owt, Guess What, "ITS RACISM",
The Whites Were NEVER Racist To Anybody, NEVER HEARD THE WORD, Before THE ASIANS CAME HERE, We Have Had Every Race You Can Think Of Before THE ASIANS & Never Had A Problem, With Drugs Etc, & Galloway ??
Strange name for an asian??
Wonder Why He Uses, "George"
George Is BRITISH, Always Was, If Your Ancestory Was BRITISH Then You Are,, If Not YOU AINT You Are A Foreigner & Always Will Be, Nothing To Do With Racism
But Mark My Words ITS ONLY GOING TO GET BLACKER

koeeoaddiladdi wrote:

yorkshirepud61 wrote:
Unfortunately Labour has only had 2 years to put right 10 years of Tory mismanagement in Bradford. The Westfield site is a private venture and due to the downturn in the economy we have been left in the lurch, the Odeon again is in private hands and should be demolished,lets get Bradford back on its feet, WITHOUT Galloway he's got his job in Whitehall where will he stand next. Very sad to see Ian Greenwood loosing his seat, tribeal voting at it's worst.

Tripe. Greenwood was involved in the Odeon's demise for over a decade and regularly made it perfectly clear that, like a lot of the out of touch plonkers in the local Labour group, he didn't give a flying fig about it. He was a major player in the Regen, committee that made some of the worst decisions in Bradford history. Best place for him is in a pub playing fruit machines.

koeeoaddiladdi wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
NO MATTER WHO GETS ELECTED, "DO NOT FORGET"
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
"**** TO THE tax paying people" as long as my back pockets full, THATS THEIR MOTTO, No Matter Who They Are, WE HAD NO RACISM HERE UNTIL THE "ASIANS ARRIVED"
& WE "ALL" KNOW THATS THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, They Just Please Themselves What They Do, & IF Anybody Says Owt, Guess What, "ITS RACISM",
The Whites Were NEVER Racist To Anybody, NEVER HEARD THE WORD, Before THE ASIANS CAME HERE, We Have Had Every Race You Can Think Of Before THE ASIANS & Never Had A Problem, With Drugs Etc, & Galloway ??
Strange name for an asian??
Wonder Why He Uses, "George"
George Is BRITISH, Always Was, If Your Ancestory Was BRITISH Then You Are,, If Not YOU AINT You Are A Foreigner & Always Will Be, Nothing To Do With Racism
But Mark My Words ITS ONLY GOING TO GET BLACKER

'We had no racism here before the Asians arrived ????' You're either very young or you've been living on a different planet. We ASKED 'Asians' to come here in the first place you plant pot. There's always been racism here (try asking an Irish person, an Italian or a Jamaican) Secondly there's always been drugs here. Why don't you check out what Queen Victoria 'did' for leisure ?

mark04 wrote:
AntiDrug,Dont think I have ever read such a load of rubbish as your rambling incoherent posts above.Was going to point out how wrong you are on all your points, but cant really be bothered engaging with you,and giving you more chance to give us more of your ramblings.

AntiDrug wrote:
mark04 Who Asked You Anyway
The thing that Needs to be done is Takle the Problems That Are Here Now, Forget The Past You Will Never Change That,
Saying Thats Not True ??
You Seem To Like The Problems, Thats The Way You Portray Your Self To Our Group
Another Future Less Critic

AntiDrug wrote:
Make Your Mind Up, First You Say I Am Wrong In All The Points, Then Mostly Agre With Them,
Your Quotes::::::Dont think I have ever read such a load of rubbish as your rambling incoherent posts above.Was going to point out how wrong you are on all your points, but cant really be bothered engaging with you,and giving you more chance to give us more of your ramblings.
Dont Quibble On Nit Pickings,
It Only Shows You As Sacastic, Lowest For Of Wit

AntiDrug wrote:
But If You Are Also NIT Picking Then The Same Applies
The Truth Is The Truth, Like It Or Not

Albion. wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
But If You Are Also NIT Picking Then The Same Applies
The Truth Is The Truth, Like It Or Not

You obviously didn't read my post timed at 11:00am.

AntiDrug wrote:
Make Your Mind Up, First You Say I Am Wrong In All The Points, Then Mostly Agre With Them,
Your Quotes::::::Dont think I have ever read such a load of rubbish as your rambling incoherent posts above.Was going to point out how wrong you are on all your points, but cant really be bothered engaging with you,and giving you more chance to give us more of your ramblings.
Dont Quibble On Nit Pickings,
It Only Shows You As Sacastic, Lowest For Of Wit

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
The lib dems been told they weren't welcome in certain areas, people been menaced at the polling station the t@a not even reporting it. When did we lower the british flag and raise the pakistani won. People are very pis***.

AntiDrug wrote:
Why prove you are so pathetic, Who's Uncle Drug, Who's Frank
& Who Do You Think You Are Calling Me Druggy Dont You Comprehend "ANTIDRUG" Stupid
You Are Not Referring To GG Are You Scapegoating ?? If So You Could be right There
Yours sincerely, a white, English, born and bred, working class,, Bradfordian who's dad worked in the wool mills with Pakistanis who he often described as 'grafters them lads'
So Was I For 55 Years, & Yes we Had "Grafters Them Lads
We are not refering to them
You A Witch That Managed To Escape, ?? Maybe Gay Or Lesbian, Who Knows,
But You Are Living In The Past
Open Your Eyes Its Todays Problems, & Its Not My ruddy Job To Sort It, Seeing You Have been Derogative To Me Personally, I Will send a Report In

AntiDrug wrote:
I think that we have a 'Troll' , or person who exhibits Troll like tendencies, amongst us.
Therefore I am leaving what was proving to be an interesting Thread.
I hope to 'See' you elsewhere.

Albion. wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
I think that we have a 'Troll' , or person who exhibits Troll like tendencies, amongst us.
Therefore I am leaving what was proving to be an interesting Thread.
I hope to 'See' you elsewhere.

Aw Shucks! ;-)

c-sense wrote:
Ha Ha Ha! AntiDrug you are sheer class pal. Sheer class!
I've no idea what half of your last reply was but that's cool 'cos we live in a democracy and all have a right to an opinion. I respect that our opinions differ.
Sorry about the mis-spells mate.

I think you will find that there many more of them in China and Russia than in England. As for Australia... well you will find that there are about a fifth of the population NOT born in Australia.
Just don't believe everything you read in the tabloids mate. I've met some fantastic asians and some horrible ones. I have also met some fantastic English people and some that make me ashamed to be English.

As for who 'discovered' England. You tell me and i'll prove to you if you are right or wrong.

AntiDrug wrote:

c-sense wrote:
Ha Ha Ha! AntiDrug you are sheer class pal. Sheer class!
I've no idea what half of your last reply was but that's cool 'cos we live in a democracy and all have a right to an opinion. I respect that our opinions differ.
Sorry about the mis-spells mate.

I think you will find that there many more of them in China and Russia than in England. As for Australia... well you will find that there are about a fifth of the population NOT born in Australia.
Just don't believe everything you read in the tabloids mate. I've met some fantastic asians and some horrible ones. I have also met some fantastic English people and some that make me ashamed to be English.

As for who 'discovered' England. You tell me and i'll prove to you if you are right or wrong.

Who discovered the british isles It Is Written That It was The Greeks,??
& Yes you are right, There are Good And "Unfortunately" Bad In every Creed & Denomination one can List, I have worked in Mills & lots of other Businesses
and found That to be very true
I have Very Good friends from Lots of different Denominations,
All be it the older ones,
& yes maybe there are many more of them in the countries you list, But do they do as they like there?? Very doubtful
It realy does seem that the Generations of today, All of them, Whoever they are, Seem to have this Phobia, that the world owes them all the time
but to do very little themselves to improve anything,
To quote an old saying, Money the root of all evil, well yes it probably is part of it, Then there is religion, another cotradictive Area, But it seems from the year imomorial, That this>>> has always been the same, A big problem >>> "Greed", & to be honest this will always be there Its a Human Failure, & Unfortunately A lot of Humans will not share, They want it all themselves & it will go on until
Until doomsday
Killing & Desecration Of the Human Race, Always has been

AntiDrug wrote:

c-sense wrote:
Ha Ha Ha! AntiDrug you are sheer class pal. Sheer class!
I've no idea what half of your last reply was but that's cool 'cos we live in a democracy and all have a right to an opinion. I respect that our opinions differ.
Sorry about the mis-spells mate.

I think you will find that there many more of them in China and Russia than in England. As for Australia... well you will find that there are about a fifth of the population NOT born in Australia.
Just don't believe everything you read in the tabloids mate. I've met some fantastic asians and some horrible ones. I have also met some fantastic English people and some that make me ashamed to be English.

As for who 'discovered' England. You tell me and i'll prove to you if you are right or wrong.

Who discovered the british isles It Is Written That It was The Greeks,??
& Yes you are right, There are Good And "Unfortunately" Bad In every Creed & Denomination one can List, I have worked in Mills & lots of other Businesses
and found That to be very true
I have Very Good friends from Lots of different Denominations,
All be it the older ones,
& yes maybe there are many more of them in the countries you list, But do they do as they like there?? Very doubtful
It realy does seem that the Generations of today, All of them, Whoever they are, Seem to have this Phobia, that the world owes them all the time
but to do very little themselves to improve anything,
To quote an old saying, Money the root of all evil, well yes it probably is part of it, Then there is religion, another cotradictive Area, But it seems from the year imomorial, That this>>> has always been the same, A big problem >>> "Greed", & to be honest this will always be there Its a Human Failure, & Unfortunately A lot of Humans will not share, They want it all themselves & it will go on until
Until doomsday
Killing & Desecration Of the Human Race, Always has been

AntiDrug wrote:
As i said there are Good & Bad In Every Race & Denominations Including the Whites
Just to point out We rent From An Asian Chap, Who Is Very Nice & Socialbe No Problems, before he offered us the house He had Some Asians living here
He said he was glad to get rid of them, they trashed the place, Lots of damage Etc, He had the place totally Refurbished & Decorated & Thoroughly Cleaned , He asked if we would like it, As He Knew Us to be Good Tenants, We Agreed to This & We are very happy & So Is he, He has visited us & remarked he is very happy With
How we look after the place, & hopes we stop for long term
This is the Second Rent We Have Had From An Asian, Who It Has Been A Pleasure To Have Met Them 2, But We Have Had Some Very Bad Experiances aswell, So As We Say There Are Good & Bad In Every Race
I would be pleased if you now agree that the problems of Bradford are not all caused by British born Asian folk, who are just trying to live their lives as best they can, like the rest of us.The Answer to your Question Is NO, The problems are not all Asian, There are other Denominations Who Cause Problems Including Whites,
Not Just In Bradford, But Many Other Towns And Cities
I Think The Answer Is To Intergrate & Lets Get The Whole Communities Together In Harmony

AntiDrug wrote:
As i said there are Good & Bad In Every Race & Denominations Including the Whites
Just to point out We rent From An Asian Chap, Who Is Very Nice & Socialbe No Problems, before he offered us the house He had Some Asians living here
He said he was glad to get rid of them, they trashed the place, Lots of damage Etc, He had the place totally Refurbished & Decorated & Thoroughly Cleaned , He asked if we would like it, As He Knew Us to be Good Tenants, We Agreed to This & We are very happy & So Is he, He has visited us & remarked he is very happy With
How we look after the place, & hopes we stop for long term
This is the Second Rent We Have Had From An Asian, Who It Has Been A Pleasure To Have Met Them 2, But We Have Had Some Very Bad Experiances aswell, So As We Say There Are Good & Bad In Every Race
I would be pleased if you now agree that the problems of Bradford are not all caused by British born Asian folk, who are just trying to live their lives as best they can, like the rest of us.The Answer to your Question Is NO, The problems are not all Asian, There are other Denominations Who Cause Problems Including Whites,
Not Just In Bradford, But Many Other Towns And Cities
I Think The Answer Is To Intergrate & Lets Get The Whole Communities Together In Harmony

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Anti-drug, I think you may have made some valid points and also some rubbish ones, just hard to decipher. I'd consider dropping the anti and partaking in your nemesis, it may even you out a little.

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

lonniejockstrap wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

Bye, and try to cut down on your drug use cos it's totally wrecked your cognition. The sooner you accept your an addict the sooner you will be on the road to recovery.

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Anti-drug, I think you may have made some valid points and also some rubbish ones, just hard to decipher. I'd consider dropping the anti and partaking in your nemesis, it may even you out a little.

Yup, roll a fat one....

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

Bye, and try to cut down on your drug use cos it's totally wrecked your cognition. The sooner you accept your an addict the sooner you will be on the road to recovery.

I especially enjoyed the bit about your handle being wrong lonnie. It shouldn't be jockstrap it should be jockstrap cos you talk like something has comeout of a JOCKSTRAP.

PS,
It isn't shaun is it?

AntiDrug wrote:
We Aint Bradfordians But We Can Plainly See What **** It Has From People Like You
Sorry You Aint A Person, Your A TROLL
Guttersnipe
Regards From Leicester

Albion. wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

Bye, and try to cut down on your drug use cos it's totally wrecked your cognition. The sooner you accept your an addict the sooner you will be on the road to recovery.

I especially enjoyed the bit about your handle being wrong lonnie. It shouldn't be jockstrap it should be jockstrap cos you talk like something has comeout of a JOCKSTRAP.

PS,
It isn't shaun is it?

I think you got that slightly wrong.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

Bye, and try to cut down on your drug use cos it's totally wrecked your cognition. The sooner you accept your an addict the sooner you will be on the road to recovery.

I especially enjoyed the bit about your handle being wrong lonnie. It shouldn't be jockstrap it should be jockstrap cos you talk like something has comeout of a JOCKSTRAP.

PS,
It isn't shaun is it?

I think you got that slightly wrong.

Hardly surprising, I still don't know what was trying to be said.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

Bye, and try to cut down on your drug use cos it's totally wrecked your cognition. The sooner you accept your an addict the sooner you will be on the road to recovery.

I especially enjoyed the bit about your handle being wrong lonnie. It shouldn't be jockstrap it should be jockstrap cos you talk like something has comeout of a JOCKSTRAP.

PS,
It isn't shaun is it?

I think you got that slightly wrong.

Hardly surprising, I still don't know what was trying to be said.

I think he/she is saying if you want to get a 'high' then sniff a jockstrap? Errrr! Anyway I had a word with FRANK and I think I'll 'just say NO!' and give that one a body swerve. (Call me old fashioned but I can't see there being much peer pressure to try that idea)

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

AntiDrug wrote:
Some of you are so nieve, & dont understand the word "ANTIDRUG" It means tottaly Against, You Plonkers
It is very clear that the ones who continualy Demise people on these threads ARE they ones Who know ALL About drugs
& Plainly make others Know that they are the druggies
to reiterate "ANTIDRUG" Tottaly Against, So Bye You Trolls
Case Closed Thread Closed
Mumble on to your hearts content, Case / Thread Closed
To you time wasters

Bye, and try to cut down on your drug use cos it's totally wrecked your cognition. The sooner you accept your an addict the sooner you will be on the road to recovery.

I especially enjoyed the bit about your handle being wrong lonnie. It shouldn't be jockstrap it should be jockstrap cos you talk like something has comeout of a JOCKSTRAP.

PS,
It isn't shaun is it?

I think you got that slightly wrong.

Hardly surprising, I still don't know what was trying to be said.

I think he/she is saying if you want to get a 'high' then sniff a jockstrap? Errrr! Anyway I had a word with FRANK and I think I'll 'just say NO!' and give that one a body swerve. (Call me old fashioned but I can't see there being much peer pressure to try that idea)

Ahhhhh, enlightenment at last.

My youngest once deleved into the FIltronic cricket kit bag and promptly pulled out a box and used it as a mask. Never been the same since, there may just be something in it, and not total boll**