Fury as thieves steal Bronte church's historic gravestones in Thornton

7:00am Monday 22nd October 2012 in News Photograph of the Author By Dolores Cowburn, Bradford Chief Reporter

Police at St James Church, Thornton, where thieves have stolen historic gravestones Police at St James Church, Thornton, where thieves have stolen historic gravestones

Thieves have desecrated a historic cemetery with Bronte links by uprooting and stealing three ancient headstones which have been there for the last 200 years.

The crime, described by police as despicable, is believed to have been committed to get at the Yorkshire stone.

It has led to condemnation by councillors responsible for the district’s heritage, who described it as “sickening” and blasted the vandals who are “throwing away hundreds of years of history”.

Police patrolled the Old Bell Chapel, also known as the Bronte Bell Chapel, opposite St James Church on Thornton Road, Thornton, on Saturday night after fears were raised that the vandals would return for more stone slabs they had already removed from sacred resting places and stacked up in the cemetery.

The damage was discovered on Saturday morning by church warden Steven Stanworth, who said he was left sickened. He now faces the task of trying to find out who the headstones belonged to and contacting family members with the harrowing news.

The stones were taken between 9pm on Friday and 8am on Saturday.

Mr Stanworth said that on Thursday night, thieves also stole up to 30 metres of Yorkshire Stone from the pathway, making it dangerous for the public to walk on.

“It is absolutely disgraceful and disgusting,” he said. “One of the headstones was next to the grave of author Joseph Lister, who was a friend of Lord Fairfax’s and was involved in the Siege of Bradford in 1642.

“It is a graveyard. We have had vandalism before but nothing like this. We have no chance of recovering it and how do you put a price on something like that which is 200 years old?

“A historic part of the ground has been taken and desecrated and they must be sick to do this.

“There is no respect for life or death. This is part of our social history they have no idea what they are doing and must be morons.”

Mr Stanworth believes taking the stones would need four men, adding that a jemmy had been left at the site.

On Thursday night in between the church and the chapel, Mr Stanworth said that 30 metres of Yorkshire stone were taken from the Bronte Way and stone has also gone from the chapel wall.

“I need to raise awareness with the people living around here, because we can’t allow this to happen,” he added.

It comes just months after Yorkshire stone was taken from the grounds of Bolling Hall Museum, while thieves also took an 1870s bell that had been sitting in pride of place at Manningham Mills last month.

Councillor Val Slater, Heritage Champion for Bradford Council, said it was terrible news, while Coun Susan Hinchcliffe, the portfolio holder for tourism, said: “Incidents like this are sickening.

“The Old Bell Chapel has a strong significance to the Bronte story, a major tourist draw for the Bradford district. For minimal short term gain, people who commit these crimes throw away hundreds of years of history.”

Detective Inspector Mark Long, of Airedale and North Bradford CID, called it a “despicable act which would cause great offence in the local community”.

“Unfortunately there are no positive lines of enquiry at this time despite investigations, so we appeal to anyone who has information and furthermore, to any local stone masons who are offered what are clearly gravestones, to contact us,” he added.

“Any new leads to identify and catch those responsible will be followed up and information should be passed to the North Bradford Neighbourhood Policing Team on 101.”

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Andy2010 says...
9:10am Mon 22 Oct 12

pure scum but judging but judging by the amount of lads you see driving around in flat bed transits it doesnt surprise me

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ANY WHERE BUT HERE says...
10:08am Mon 22 Oct 12

Has bad has it'is, people will be bothered about food on the table. Not that its been there 200 years. The stone will go to London just the same has the rest.

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Andy2010 says...
10:19am Mon 22 Oct 12

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Has bad has it'is, people will be bothered about food on the table. Not that its been there 200 years. The stone will go to London just the same has the rest.
No one steals headstones to "put food on the table". This is pure and simple theft for profit by some gypo scum Id hazard a guess

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MontyLeMar says...
10:24am Mon 22 Oct 12

If the government insists on austerity, this is what you get. There's still lots of unguarded wealth around for opportunists or hungry people to steal. Looks like they had a go at some cast iron bollards in Idle the other week and the cast iron gully grates are regularly taken along with Yorkshire stone walling. All very depressing but as more people start to go hungry there'll be more of it.

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bullybullman says...
10:32am Mon 22 Oct 12

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Has bad has it'is, people will be bothered about food on the table. Not that its been there 200 years. The stone will go to London just the same has the rest.
Hunger ! what a load of rubbish pure greed pro job to profit not feed the family.

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Tex@s37 says...
10:37am Mon 22 Oct 12

This has made me so angry! Stealing for food... as if! Stealing for drugs more like! I feel sorry for the group of volunteers that work hard in preserving this historic graveyard. I would plant some sharp/spikey bear traps for when the scum of the earth return to steal more of our history :-(

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Bone_idle18 says...
10:42am Mon 22 Oct 12

you can make enough spaghetti Bolognais to provide 2 meals for a family of 4 for under £5. that's £3 less than a packet a fags!

It is not expensive to provide a decent balanced diet.

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Andy2010 says...
10:55am Mon 22 Oct 12

If "hunger" was the motive here there are plenty of food banks to help people. This is pure and simple stone theft as has been going on in Little Germany for many years. If I remember rightly the last time was a load of smackheads

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Old Peculiar says...
10:57am Mon 22 Oct 12

MontyLeMar wrote:
If the government insists on austerity, this is what you get. There's still lots of unguarded wealth around for opportunists or hungry people to steal. Looks like they had a go at some cast iron bollards in Idle the other week and the cast iron gully grates are regularly taken along with Yorkshire stone walling. All very depressing but as more people start to go hungry there'll be more of it.
what an absolute load of tosh - this is nothing to do with Government austerity, or putting food on tables - since when did the desperate and needy have access to flat back trailers ? this is 100% total and utter criminality, theft of irreplaceable historical artifacts, by those who have no concience or regard to anything other than their own pockets. Discpicable. To suggest that these people are scum would be an understatement.

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supernan says...
10:58am Mon 22 Oct 12

Hunger my foot!!! The people who did this just have no respect for anyone or anything and Bradford is full of these thugs. Rarely do they get caught, so they know they can get away with it, and if they are caught it will only be a slap on the wrists. These aren't hungry people, they are fully equipped with vans and tools for jobs like these, they have plenty but they want more and they don't care how they get it.

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MontyLeMar says...
11:03am Mon 22 Oct 12

Bone_idle18 wrote:
you can make enough spaghetti Bolognais to provide 2 meals for a family of 4 for under £5. that's £3 less than a packet a fags!

It is not expensive to provide a decent balanced diet.
Point taken, but this is obviously carried out by organised gangs with the strength and ability to lift and transport heavy stone flags, etc. No one is suggesting that someone wakes up one morning and there is nothing in the cupboard so he/she goes out and steals a half tonne grave stone so they can buy some muesli. But if you've been scratching round for work for a few weeks and know the right people doing naughty things you may be tempted to join in and earn a few bob. There are lots of people newly arrived from eastern Europe who may well innocently sign up with someone only to find themselves in the dead of night lifting flagstones. They just want money to send back east to their families.

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Albion. says...
11:09am Mon 22 Oct 12

It all boils down to greed and ineffective deterrents.

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angry bradfordian says...
11:15am Mon 22 Oct 12

MontyLeMar wrote:
If the government insists on austerity, this is what you get. There's still lots of unguarded wealth around for opportunists or hungry people to steal. Looks like they had a go at some cast iron bollards in Idle the other week and the cast iron gully grates are regularly taken along with Yorkshire stone walling. All very depressing but as more people start to go hungry there'll be more of it.
Please explain why lead/stone/metal theft has been on the rise for at least 15 years- most of it during the excuse of a Labour government?

This has nothing to do with hunger, but low life scum who want something belonging to somebody else.
If these people are so 'hungry' how did they afford to run the vehicle that transported the stolen goods?

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Old Peculiar says...
11:32am Mon 22 Oct 12

Andy2010 wrote:
If "hunger" was the motive here there are plenty of food banks to help people. This is pure and simple stone theft as has been going on in Little Germany for many years. If I remember rightly the last time was a load of smackheads
Good result for Barnsley this weekend.

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Avro says...
12:01pm Mon 22 Oct 12

What's next, robbing the dead??

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Avro says...
12:01pm Mon 22 Oct 12

What's next, robbing the dead??

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Bone_idle18 says...
12:02pm Mon 22 Oct 12

At least no one was hurt. I think there are far worse crimes, but this sums up the problem with society at the moment, too many people with little regard for others.

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yorkshiredude says...
12:02pm Mon 22 Oct 12

scum, sub-human scum.

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The Hoffster says...
1:15pm Mon 22 Oct 12

yorkshiredude wrote:
scum, sub-human scum.
Alan, is that you ?

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Yorkshire Lass says...
2:34pm Mon 22 Oct 12

MontyLeMar wrote:
If the government insists on austerity, this is what you get. There's still lots of unguarded wealth around for opportunists or hungry people to steal. Looks like they had a go at some cast iron bollards in Idle the other week and the cast iron gully grates are regularly taken along with Yorkshire stone walling. All very depressing but as more people start to go hungry there'll be more of it.
This is not unguarded wealth but someones' history being disturbed a long time after death. Cannot believe how low some people can go, but if, they are caught, maybe they will be sent to prison for a long, long time as an example to other low life.

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zippy25 says...
2:49pm Mon 22 Oct 12

This graveyard is in my Village and i think its Dissgusting how theifs can even steal grave stones .I realy feel sorry for all those who have done so much work in that graveyard and made it look so nice .To steal from a grave yard is the lowest of the lowest hope the police find out who it was !!!!

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RollandSmoke says...
3:58pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.

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bullybullman says...
4:39pm Mon 22 Oct 12

You can not defend these scum bags Saltaire has been ravaged by stone & metal theft which is bad enough but to plunder a grave is just a disgrace.

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bullybullman says...
4:40pm Mon 22 Oct 12

RollandSmoke wrote:
Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.
Great idea !

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Andy2010 says...
5:07pm Mon 22 Oct 12

RollandSmoke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.
I was using the term "Gypo's" as I do and always have done to stress what others would call "Scum" or "Tramps" etc etc etc I realise not policitally correct but honestly dont care if I upset the "sub section" of society as you put it
People you believe beneath you? I didn't say you were upsetting them I said you were slandering them. A more worthy case for immediate removal of cranium from sphinkter is rarely seen.
So I'm slandering Gypsies / Travellers or whatever they want to be called nowadays by calling them "Gypos"? Dear god as we not allowed to say anything about anyone anymore
No it's more to do with you accusing them of committing a crime with absolutely no evidence to back it up. I'm suprised I'm having to explain this to you what with you being a superiour being.
I think you've missed the point entirely. 'Gypos' is a term he uses to describe thieving low life scum (of all colours and creeds) At no point does he blame 'Gypos' for this particular incident.
Last sentence should read 'At no point does he blame Gypsies for this particular incident.
You have both admitted associating Gypsies (or 'Gypos' as you call them whilst amusingly trying to mask to whom you are referring) with low life thieving scum. I for one do not defend the actions of any criminals who is found guilty due to the evidence but pointing fingers doesn't help.
Please put down your copy of The EU human rights agenda

Gypo's is a term I have used since I was born in the 60's. It simply means low life or scum and doesnt intentionally mean Gypsies or travellers or whatever.

Same goes for terms like tramp. I use this also to highlight someone who doesnt look after themselves. Doesnt mean they are an actual tramp and not aimed at homeless people or classing them as tramps. I also use the term "Stig" in the same way as Tramp but this isnt referring to the Top Gear Stig its referring to Stig of the Dump.

Now please shut it with your labelling rubbish. The days when everyone didnt take everything literally, when you could say what you want without upsetting someones "feelings" I realise are long gone but they were simpler times and I certainly wont change because someone says I should.

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Bone_idle18 says...
5:12pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Yo don't earn the money Gypsies have to buy caravans and flash cars by (badly) tarmacking a few drives!

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RollandSmoke says...
5:39pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.
I was using the term "Gypo's" as I do and always have done to stress what others would call "Scum" or "Tramps" etc etc etc I realise not policitally correct but honestly dont care if I upset the "sub section" of society as you put it
People you believe beneath you? I didn't say you were upsetting them I said you were slandering them. A more worthy case for immediate removal of cranium from sphinkter is rarely seen.
So I'm slandering Gypsies / Travellers or whatever they want to be called nowadays by calling them "Gypos"? Dear god as we not allowed to say anything about anyone anymore
No it's more to do with you accusing them of committing a crime with absolutely no evidence to back it up. I'm suprised I'm having to explain this to you what with you being a superiour being.
I think you've missed the point entirely. 'Gypos' is a term he uses to describe thieving low life scum (of all colours and creeds) At no point does he blame 'Gypos' for this particular incident.
Last sentence should read 'At no point does he blame Gypsies for this particular incident.
You have both admitted associating Gypsies (or 'Gypos' as you call them whilst amusingly trying to mask to whom you are referring) with low life thieving scum. I for one do not defend the actions of any criminals who is found guilty due to the evidence but pointing fingers doesn't help.
Please put down your copy of The EU human rights agenda

Gypo's is a term I have used since I was born in the 60's. It simply means low life or scum and doesnt intentionally mean Gypsies or travellers or whatever.

Same goes for terms like tramp. I use this also to highlight someone who doesnt look after themselves. Doesnt mean they are an actual tramp and not aimed at homeless people or classing them as tramps. I also use the term "Stig" in the same way as Tramp but this isnt referring to the Top Gear Stig its referring to Stig of the Dump.

Now please shut it with your labelling rubbish. The days when everyone didnt take everything literally, when you could say what you want without upsetting someones "feelings" I realise are long gone but they were simpler times and I certainly wont change because someone says I should.
These days you talk of sound very remanicent of Nazi Germany circa 1933. There are many who now wish they did take things more literally because they certainly wern't simpler times for them. Governments throughout history have demonized sections of society in order to devide and conquer and time and time again vast swathes of the population have cheered on. Shame your Daily Mail comment disappeared. I suspect it was your most honest post of the day.

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justjustice says...
9:09pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Dont forget it could have been a "pre-ordered" crime, where collectors pay thugs to steal historic items.

But seeing the area and "respect" people have these days, probably was some local idiot who cares nothing about their own town and would sell hundreds of years worth of history for a few pints.

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Salty Bantam says...
11:46pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Avro wrote:
What's next, robbing the dead??
wakening the dead is next, they're to be exhumed and made to do unpaid voluntary work, apparently Chris Grayling and Lord Freud said so.

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Salty Bantam says...
11:49pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.
I was using the term "Gypo's" as I do and always have done to stress what others would call "Scum" or "Tramps" etc etc etc I realise not policitally correct but honestly dont care if I upset the "sub section" of society as you put it
People you believe beneath you? I didn't say you were upsetting them I said you were slandering them. A more worthy case for immediate removal of cranium from sphinkter is rarely seen.
So I'm slandering Gypsies / Travellers or whatever they want to be called nowadays by calling them "Gypos"? Dear god as we not allowed to say anything about anyone anymore
No it's more to do with you accusing them of committing a crime with absolutely no evidence to back it up. I'm suprised I'm having to explain this to you what with you being a superiour being.
I think you've missed the point entirely. 'Gypos' is a term he uses to describe thieving low life scum (of all colours and creeds) At no point does he blame 'Gypos' for this particular incident.
Last sentence should read 'At no point does he blame Gypsies for this particular incident.
You have both admitted associating Gypsies (or 'Gypos' as you call them whilst amusingly trying to mask to whom you are referring) with low life thieving scum. I for one do not defend the actions of any criminals who is found guilty due to the evidence but pointing fingers doesn't help.
Please put down your copy of The EU human rights agenda

Gypo's is a term I have used since I was born in the 60's. It simply means low life or scum and doesnt intentionally mean Gypsies or travellers or whatever.

Same goes for terms like tramp. I use this also to highlight someone who doesnt look after themselves. Doesnt mean they are an actual tramp and not aimed at homeless people or classing them as tramps. I also use the term "Stig" in the same way as Tramp but this isnt referring to the Top Gear Stig its referring to Stig of the Dump.

Now please shut it with your labelling rubbish. The days when everyone didnt take everything literally, when you could say what you want without upsetting someones "feelings" I realise are long gone but they were simpler times and I certainly wont change because someone says I should.
Since the 60's eh? bet you still call black people **** too! or do you still laugh at Irish jokes? you shunt go casting blame at folk with out proof, OR call them silly nicknames, it is offensive nowadays. This is the 21st CENTURY!

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Salty Bantam says...
11:52pm Mon 22 Oct 12

Anyway...so much for the 'Ring of Steel' !

I though every vehicle going in/out of Bradford was now captured on CCTV! So why don't the cops just look at the pictures, see a van/truck in the area at that time of night and BINGO!

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Andy2010 says...
8:57am Tue 23 Oct 12

Salty Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.
I was using the term "Gypo's" as I do and always have done to stress what others would call "Scum" or "Tramps" etc etc etc I realise not policitally correct but honestly dont care if I upset the "sub section" of society as you put it
People you believe beneath you? I didn't say you were upsetting them I said you were slandering them. A more worthy case for immediate removal of cranium from sphinkter is rarely seen.
So I'm slandering Gypsies / Travellers or whatever they want to be called nowadays by calling them "Gypos"? Dear god as we not allowed to say anything about anyone anymore
No it's more to do with you accusing them of committing a crime with absolutely no evidence to back it up. I'm suprised I'm having to explain this to you what with you being a superiour being.
I think you've missed the point entirely. 'Gypos' is a term he uses to describe thieving low life scum (of all colours and creeds) At no point does he blame 'Gypos' for this particular incident.
Last sentence should read 'At no point does he blame Gypsies for this particular incident.
You have both admitted associating Gypsies (or 'Gypos' as you call them whilst amusingly trying to mask to whom you are referring) with low life thieving scum. I for one do not defend the actions of any criminals who is found guilty due to the evidence but pointing fingers doesn't help.
Please put down your copy of The EU human rights agenda Gypo's is a term I have used since I was born in the 60's. It simply means low life or scum and doesnt intentionally mean Gypsies or travellers or whatever. Same goes for terms like tramp. I use this also to highlight someone who doesnt look after themselves. Doesnt mean they are an actual tramp and not aimed at homeless people or classing them as tramps. I also use the term "Stig" in the same way as Tramp but this isnt referring to the Top Gear Stig its referring to Stig of the Dump. Now please shut it with your labelling rubbish. The days when everyone didnt take everything literally, when you could say what you want without upsetting someones "feelings" I realise are long gone but they were simpler times and I certainly wont change because someone says I should.
Since the 60's eh? bet you still call black people **** too! or do you still laugh at Irish jokes? you shunt go casting blame at folk with out proof, OR call them silly nicknames, it is offensive nowadays. This is the 21st CENTURY!
for the love of god can we not even make Irish jokes now!!

Whilst it might be the 21st century so things have changed for the worst...all this peoples "feelings" and things like awarding everyone a prize in the school sports day just to not upset the ones that finish last.

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RollandSmoke says...
4:17pm Tue 23 Oct 12

@Andy2010 why don't you stick to making jokes where you are the butt of that joke. You are the only person on here who isn't laughing at you, you might as well try to make it because you're being funny.

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Salty Bantam says...
4:42pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Andy2010 wrote:
Salty Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote: Has anyone blaming the Gypsies for this got any evidence to back that up or are you all quite happy to slander a sub-section of society just in case? Lets sack the police and just have vigilante groups acting on assumptions based on prejudice.
I was using the term "Gypo's" as I do and always have done to stress what others would call "Scum" or "Tramps" etc etc etc I realise not policitally correct but honestly dont care if I upset the "sub section" of society as you put it
People you believe beneath you? I didn't say you were upsetting them I said you were slandering them. A more worthy case for immediate removal of cranium from sphinkter is rarely seen.
So I'm slandering Gypsies / Travellers or whatever they want to be called nowadays by calling them "Gypos"? Dear god as we not allowed to say anything about anyone anymore
No it's more to do with you accusing them of committing a crime with absolutely no evidence to back it up. I'm suprised I'm having to explain this to you what with you being a superiour being.
I think you've missed the point entirely. 'Gypos' is a term he uses to describe thieving low life scum (of all colours and creeds) At no point does he blame 'Gypos' for this particular incident.
Last sentence should read 'At no point does he blame Gypsies for this particular incident.
You have both admitted associating Gypsies (or 'Gypos' as you call them whilst amusingly trying to mask to whom you are referring) with low life thieving scum. I for one do not defend the actions of any criminals who is found guilty due to the evidence but pointing fingers doesn't help.
Please put down your copy of The EU human rights agenda Gypo's is a term I have used since I was born in the 60's. It simply means low life or scum and doesnt intentionally mean Gypsies or travellers or whatever. Same goes for terms like tramp. I use this also to highlight someone who doesnt look after themselves. Doesnt mean they are an actual tramp and not aimed at homeless people or classing them as tramps. I also use the term "Stig" in the same way as Tramp but this isnt referring to the Top Gear Stig its referring to Stig of the Dump. Now please shut it with your labelling rubbish. The days when everyone didnt take everything literally, when you could say what you want without upsetting someones "feelings" I realise are long gone but they were simpler times and I certainly wont change because someone says I should.
Since the 60's eh? bet you still call black people **** too! or do you still laugh at Irish jokes? you shunt go casting blame at folk with out proof, OR call them silly nicknames, it is offensive nowadays. This is the 21st CENTURY!
for the love of god can we not even make Irish jokes now!!

Whilst it might be the 21st century so things have changed for the worst...all this peoples "feelings" and things like awarding everyone a prize in the school sports day just to not upset the ones that finish last.
NO, of course we can't make Irish jokes ! Where have you been? under a stone? I'd call you a Neanderthal but that would be offensive to Neanderthals.

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Salty Bantam says...
4:43pm Tue 23 Oct 12

P.s. You can be as offensive as you please about Tories however :)

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Salty Bantam says...
4:46pm Tue 23 Oct 12

How many Tories does it take to change a light-bulb? None, they make the Working Class do it. HAHA HAHAHA

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Salty Bantam says...
4:48pm Tue 23 Oct 12

How much does David Cameron pay for a bottle of milk?

i don't know, and neither does he. HAAAAHAAha

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Salty Bantam says...
4:49pm Tue 23 Oct 12

How many Scousers wilL dance on Thatcher's grave?

AN WHOLE GENERATION. HAHAHAHAHA

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Albion. says...
4:50pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Salty Bantam wrote:
How many Tories does it take to change a light-bulb? None, they make the Working Class do it. HAHA HAHAHA
That excludes you then!

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Salty Bantam says...
7:24pm Tue 23 Oct 12

What's red and blue all over?

A wounded Tory! Hahahahhahaha

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Salty Bantam says...
7:58pm Tue 23 Oct 12

Albion. wrote:
Salty Bantam wrote:
How many Tories does it take to change a light-bulb? None, they make the Working Class do it. HAHA HAHAHA
That excludes you then!
Whether I'm working or not, and whether you like it or not, I am STILL Working Class.

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Andy2010 says...
10:55am Wed 24 Oct 12

Salty Bantam wrote:
P.s. You can be as offensive as you please about Tories however :)
Whys that then when you clearly stated that no-one should mention anything about anyone as it could cause offense. Any tories on here would be offended therefore what the difference betwene this and your Irish comment

Once again the working class double standards are displayed

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Salty Bantam says...
8:11pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Andy2010 wrote:
Salty Bantam wrote:
P.s. You can be as offensive as you please about Tories however :)
Whys that then when you clearly stated that no-one should mention anything about anyone as it could cause offense. Any tories on here would be offended therefore what the difference betwene this and your Irish comment

Once again the working class double standards are displayed
No one should be criticized or made fun of on the basis of their race, origin, religion, height, weight, appearance, hair colour, skin colour, physique, but it is perfectly fine to ridicule another person's political views, even to express hatred towards them.

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Salty Bantam says...
8:14pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Salty Bantam wrote:
Avro wrote:
What's next, robbing the dead??
wakening the dead is next, they're to be exhumed and made to do unpaid voluntary work, apparently Chris Grayling and Lord Freud said so.
What's next? Forcing OAPs to work for their pension after they have retired, that's what !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-politics-20
044862

After that they really will start digging up the dead to put them on back-to-work schemes!

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Andy2010 says...
12:27pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Salty Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Salty Bantam wrote: P.s. You can be as offensive as you please about Tories however :)
Whys that then when you clearly stated that no-one should mention anything about anyone as it could cause offense. Any tories on here would be offended therefore what the difference betwene this and your Irish comment Once again the working class double standards are displayed
No one should be criticized or made fun of on the basis of their race, origin, religion, height, weight, appearance, hair colour, skin colour, physique, but it is perfectly fine to ridicule another person's political views, even to express hatred towards them.
Actually your wrong there

Legally weight, height, appearance, hair colour and physique are certain things which you can "ridicule" someone for without recourse.

I can call someone "fatty" or whatever I want and this isnt actually covered by law as discrimination.

I suggest you do some research before posting your usual drivel

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RollandSmoke says...
10:22pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Andy2010 wrote:
Salty Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Salty Bantam wrote: P.s. You can be as offensive as you please about Tories however :)
Whys that then when you clearly stated that no-one should mention anything about anyone as it could cause offense. Any tories on here would be offended therefore what the difference betwene this and your Irish comment Once again the working class double standards are displayed
No one should be criticized or made fun of on the basis of their race, origin, religion, height, weight, appearance, hair colour, skin colour, physique, but it is perfectly fine to ridicule another person's political views, even to express hatred towards them.
Actually your wrong there

Legally weight, height, appearance, hair colour and physique are certain things which you can "ridicule" someone for without recourse.

I can call someone "fatty" or whatever I want and this isnt actually covered by law as discrimination.

I suggest you do some research before posting your usual drivel
So you wouldn't be a criminal you'd just be a knob? Accurate description?

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