Aftermath of collision shows need to keep Shipley and Idle stations says Bradford East MP

The aftermath of the collision at the junction of Valley Road and Canal Road The aftermath of the collision at the junction of Valley Road and Canal Road

A major city centre crash that snarled up traffic in Bradford for hours is all the proof campaigners need to show plans to close two district fire stations would put people living in those areas at risk, says an MP.

David Ward, the Bradford East MP who has backed a petition against the proposed closure of Idle and Shipley fire stations, said the three-car collision in Canal Road at lunchtime on Wednesday had put plans to merge crews at a new station on that road into “shocking” perspective.

He said the incident cast doubt on claims by West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service that the new Canal Road crews would be able to “blue-light their way through anything”.

But the fire service hit back, stating that all three fire engines that attended Wednesday's incident arrived within the benchmark time, despite the heavy traffic.

Mr Ward is sceptical about assurances over public safety and believes the merger would mean doubling response times for firefighters to reach emergencies in some outlying areas.

He said: “We have been told they will be able to blue-light their way through anything and there would not be a problem, but what happened in Canal Road makes that over-optimistic to say the least. That collision was a good example of where difficulties may occur.”

He said people, especially those in the Shipley and Idle areas, needed to be aware of that and he hoped they would have their say at a special neighbourhood forum on Thursday at 6pm at the Salvation Army Corps, Walter Road, Idle.

A West Yorkshire Fire & Rescue Service spokesman emphasised that “despite the heavy traffic congestion during Wednesday’s incident, all three of its fire engines arrived well within our benchmark attendance times for incidents.”
The spokesman also said its emergency cover proposals now out for consultation extensively looked at various sources including incident data, actual and predicted attendance times and changes in profiles of communities.
“This information is used, along with professional judgement and experience to support the proposals, to ensure they have minimal impact upon local communities,” he added.

The proposed closure of the two stations would save West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service about £8million. Mr Ward and Bradford Council Liberal Democrat leader Councillor Jeanette Sunderland have raised fears that lives could be put at risk with chief fire officer Simon Pilling and Fire Brigades Union (FBU) representatives.

They are particularly worried about people living in high-rise flats on Thorpe Edge and Ravenscliffe who, they say, would face the longest response times under the plans.

First buses were seriously affected by the congestion from Wednesday’s collision but it was routes 622, 623 and 626 to Shipley that were identified as the most badly affected, said a spokesman.

Julian Jackson, Bradford Council's Assistant Director for Planning, Transportation and Highways, said a serious accident and police incident on any part of the road network would have resulted in major traffic delays.

“When such an incident occurs on city centre arterial routes those delays take longer to clear. Although there were heavy delays in the city centre in the vicinity of Canal Road while the roads were closed for the police investigation and damaged vehicles to be removed, other commuter routes were not as badly affected,” he said.

  • Two men, aged 18 and 28, who were arrested in connection with Wednesday’s collision on Canal Road, have been released by police on bail pending further inquiries.

e-mail: kathie.griffiths@telegraphandargus.co.uk

Comments(17)

windymiller says...
8:08am Fri 19 Oct 12

I never realised that where the accident occured was the city centre!! I thought it was outside Tesco on Canal Road.

RuggerTyke says...
8:49am Fri 19 Oct 12

windymiller wrote:
I never realised that where the accident occured was the city centre!! I thought it was outside Tesco on Canal Road.
Which is very much the City Centre.

windymiller says...
10:21am Fri 19 Oct 12

City centre is where the hole and lake are. IE centre of the city!!

Albion. says...
10:26am Fri 19 Oct 12

windymiller wrote:
City centre is where the hole and lake are. IE centre of the city!!
Hahaha! True, Tesco is where the people are :-)

webess says...
10:26am Fri 19 Oct 12

Don't know if I'm being thick here but the new fire station will be on Canal Road which would mean fire service response to this incident would have been faster than it was...

Joedavid says...
12:29pm Fri 19 Oct 12

windymiller wrote:
I never realised that where the accident occured was the city centre!! I thought it was outside Tesco on Canal Road.
The retail parks and Tesco are the center, well there are more people shopping there than in what used to be the traditional center.

The Hoffster says...
12:31pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Sounds like this whole thing was a false flag...hmmm....

Joedavid says...
12:31pm Fri 19 Oct 12

The accident problem was the police chasing a car along such a busy road, a crash was bound to hapen.

Albion. says...
12:48pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Joedavid wrote:
The accident problem was the police chasing a car along such a busy road, a crash was bound to hapen.
The problem was the fleeing driver, the police were doing their job.

Joedavid says...
1:35pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Our driver of the First 612 was approaching the area just after it happened and diverted straight away to Queens Road and Valley Parade.

Mish29 says...
1:45pm Fri 19 Oct 12

webess wrote:
Don't know if I'm being thick here but the new fire station will be on Canal Road which would mean fire service response to this incident would have been faster than it was...
The new fire station would only have the one fire engine tho. Where as they cover that road with two fire engines at the moment from Shipley and idle. A car accident of this nature would attract the need for three fire engines. Where would they come from ??

Silsdenman says...
1:58pm Fri 19 Oct 12

The amount of disruption caused by these type of incidents is quite absurd. The police have no consideration whatsoever for the rest of the general public as they painstakingly investigate matters for no good reason. It seems pretty obvious what happened here. This causes massive and expensive inconvenience in the name of crime investigations.
In this incident the injured persons should be taken to hospital and/or arrested and the wreckage then shovelled out of the way immediately like they do in other countries.
As it was, one of the main arterial roads out of the city was closed for several hours and it seems that the perpetuators are now merely on bail.

webess says...
2:24pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Mish29 wrote:
webess wrote:
Don't know if I'm being thick here but the new fire station will be on Canal Road which would mean fire service response to this incident would have been faster than it was...
The new fire station would only have the one fire engine tho. Where as they cover that road with two fire engines at the moment from Shipley and idle. A car accident of this nature would attract the need for three fire engines. Where would they come from ??
Nelson Street.

wobbley-bob says...
5:48pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Joedavid wrote:
The accident problem was the police chasing a car along such a busy road, a crash was bound to hapen.
Typical silly response from Regards David. :-)

What should the Police do then?

Oh, look! that car has no tax or insurance, & the driver's banned, shall we stop it & have a word?......

... Nah, they might decide to make a run for it & cause an accident, leave 'em to it.

yezboss says...
7:15pm Fri 19 Oct 12

As I see it, had there been just one fire station where proposed, such an incident as under consideration would have inhibited the attendance of crews into the suburbs in the event of a call out, as opposed to now where they can be deployed from the either or both of the satellite stations. In other words it is very unlikely two stations would be blocked as opposed to the one as proposed. Seems sensible to maintain the divergence as opposed to concentrate resources.

Huneybunch says...
8:37am Sat 20 Oct 12

I think they should keep all the stations opened. Canal road is one of the busiest roads in the district, and when an accident happens on the road, traffic is backed up or comes to a stand on all routes so it would hinder fire crew to reach canal road even if cars moved in order to let them pass.Bradford is one of the worst for congestion and when I left work to go home at 4:30 it was still backed up on Wakefeild Rd, Sticker Lane, Leeds Rd, Barkerend Rd need I say more!

Steve30d says...
7:19pm Sat 20 Oct 12

How long did it take to get blood from BRI upto Eccleshill only 3 years ago?

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