Number of jobless youths up by 542% (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

These figures are not very surprising at all and no matter how much funding is thrown at the problem it is not going to go away. Bradford is now reaping the results of very poor education over more than the last decade. No qualifications at the end of your schooling life means no jobs. You cannot walk into a job if the basic knowledge of english and maths are not in place. How does anyone expect to work without even the basic qualifications. But not good that the education system takes all of the blame, the kids themselves need to be interested instead of "being bored".

The problem is we have an education system that churns out farm animals for labour.
The last 5 years at school are wasted on 5 years of the most useless tosh imaginable.
Nobody leaves public school with any knowledge how to do anything of any employability or worth.
Our education system was out of date 30 years ago, these days, nothing they are taught is of the slightest relevance.
Churned academic skills need to be replaced with practical hands on skills.
We dont need kids skilled in advanced mathematics problem solving, we have had computers for 30 years now.
The only solution is to sort the academic from the hands on skilled at 13 at the very latest, then put those who can work with hands to work learning skills that are relevant, let the acedmic minority learn the number crunching.
Other countries are churning out 16 year olds who can build, lay bricks, mend computers, fix cars, here we churn out gormless kids with heads full of rubbish that takes 5 years to teach out of them.

Again blame the foreigners, I know a lot of these people and their are here because the Government allows them to be here and many of the jobs their do (Cleaning Know one wanted). I also know and work with a lot of young people who in many cases want a job and yes their should be one for them but at the other hand many refuse to work and be leave their should live of the state like their families already do, unforgettably these people have not seen any thing different. We are at a time that families are getting bigger and bigger but not the work to go round. We all need to lobby the government and tell them to get sorting things out, close the borders and deal with the problem know before we to go like spain and other countries NO WORK NO MONEY NO FOOD.

michaelmcclusky wrote:
i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

The nazis did this blaming the economic troubles in Germany on the Jewish, & other communities and just look where that led us.
How many times do you read inthe papers & hear employers saying on the television & radio the schools are not teaching the skills required by them,thus the immigrant workers who have the relevant skills are taking up the work. I have heard the arguements that the wages paid to these employees are lower than a local person applying for the work would accept and have no doubt in some cases this may prove to be true, but it still does not get away from the fact the schools driven by government dogma of whichever party are not turning out the pupils with the correct education to suit a 2012 work force.

By the apparent standard of some of the above posts, it would appear that the education system is failing badly.

Hardly surprising in a city which is almost void of jobs being created!

To quote one of these youngsters:

'The others are all bad jobs.'
'Now all the good jobs need experience, otherwise it’s just sales jobs'

Comments like that explain the need for 'foreigners' to work here if people can be on benefits if they think some jobs are 'bad' or think that 'sales jobs' are beneath them.
I think it's laudable that a Pole or a Latvian will travel to a foreign country for a job when our youth won't go to 'the other side of Huddersfield'

When the econem'y wasn't doing so bad the people at the top wanted cheap labou'r . There was no unions screaming out that the lowly paid were been screwed over so the wealthy could make more money by employing even cheaper foreigners. The unions were been paid handsomley to shut'up by (labour).
Now whats happened is you can call a Englishman anything you like, Workshy, Scrounger, Lazy, even racist.
There is no one there protecting the indigenous population.
Face it this country will spend your money on anyone but you.

angry bradfordian wrote:
To quote one of these youngsters: 'The others are all bad jobs.' 'Now all the good jobs need experience, otherwise it’s just sales jobs' Comments like that explain the need for 'foreigners' to work here if people can be on benefits if they think some jobs are 'bad' or think that 'sales jobs' are beneath them. I think it's laudable that a Pole or a Latvian will travel to a foreign country for a job when our youth won't go to 'the other side of Huddersfield'

this is exactly what I was thinking. I remember when I left school with nothing really after dossing around then the reality of finding a job any job hit me. I travelled from Odsal to Wakefield everyday on public transport as this was the only thing available. it was horrible but still a job...everyone of them quotes above just seem to show the bone idle laziness of the youth today

It is more a case of the "unemployable " in many cases .

Don't want to travel too far ,the job has got to suit me .They just want everything given to them on a plate ,they send applications every week because if they don't they will not get benefit .

As an employer who has been interviewing regulalry in the last 12 months, I have to say that standards are shocking. When jobs are advertised asking for somone who has an eye for detail and is organised, it does not fill me with confidence when there are incorrect spellings and poor grammar.
Whilst we can all blame the system, the young people of today need to takle some blame because, to be fair, there are some whose attitudes are very poor and they just do not want to work. They expect everything to be given to them on a plate!

michaelmcclusky wrote:
i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

Judging by the terrible use of grammar, total lack of punctuation and countless spelling mistakes its no wonder you are unemployed.
But no its all the foreigners' fault that class A employment prospects like yourself can't find work.

Why are people on about punctuation and grammer, What jobs do you think are out there . Fools?

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Why are people on about punctuation and grammer, What jobs do you think are out there . Fools?

"grammer"?

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Why are people on about punctuation and grammer, What jobs do you think are out there . Fools?

'Sales jobs' and 'bad jobs' (whatever they are) according to Daniel Gardecki, 24, of Little Horton.
If I was an employer I would immediately discount any application that contained any spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. I'm not surprised that these people are not hearing back from potential employers. If they can't be bothered to check spelling mistakes for a CV (easily done on any computer) it doesn't bode well for their potential employment.

Farsley Bantam wrote:

michaelmcclusky wrote:
i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

Judging by the terrible use of grammar, total lack of punctuation and countless spelling mistakes its no wonder you are unemployed.
But no its all the foreigners' fault that class A employment prospects like yourself can't find work.

This is bad, very bad, if not entirely hopeless. I feel sorry for those who have to interview some of these. A bit of advice to all those currently seeking work. Go into the public library and read the quality newspapers for at least 3 hours a day. It does several things for you - teaches you how to spell properly, teaches you how to construct a coherent sentence, increases your vocabulary and increases your knowledge of world affairs. It doesn't matter that you can not differentiate from first principles but if you can hold an intelligent conversation with a potential employer you have a very good chance of landing a job. Good luck.

michaelmcclusky wrote:
i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

I think you'll find the foreigners are just as exploited as anyone else. They come here to get work in the hope of bettering their lives, but end up doing the jobs we English don't want to do, the sh1tty minimum wage packing jobs that we are expected to apply for even though the jobs are often based miles away and most people don't have any transport, coupled with the fact that the pay is atrocious. So your xenophobic rant is **** basically.

That's B o l l o c k s

Farsley Bantam wrote:

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Why are people on about punctuation and grammer, What jobs do you think are out there . Fools?

'Sales jobs' and 'bad jobs' (whatever they are) according to Daniel Gardecki, 24, of Little Horton.
If I was an employer I would immediately discount any application that contained any spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. I'm not surprised that these people are not hearing back from potential employers. If they can't be bothered to check spelling mistakes for a CV (easily done on any computer) it doesn't bode well for their potential employment.

Bad jobs are the ones that you are expected to travel miles to get to, and then be expected to work hard, often doing the most monotonous of tasks in exchange for very little pay, so that at the end of the week you have less in your pocket than you would have on the dole. Do you see now what 'bad jobs' are? I hope so.

whoflungdung wrote:
As an employer who has been interviewing regulalry in the last 12 months, I have to say that standards are shocking. When jobs are advertised asking for somone who has an eye for detail and is organised, it does not fill me with confidence when there are incorrect spellings and poor grammar.
Whilst we can all blame the system, the young people of today need to takle some blame because, to be fair, there are some whose attitudes are very poor and they just do not want to work. They expect everything to be given to them on a plate!

Standards are shocking? What are the standards of pay and conditions you are offering? Anything less than £8.00 per hour is truly shocking.

angry bradfordian wrote:
To quote one of these youngsters:

'The others are all bad jobs.'
'Now all the good jobs need experience, otherwise it’s just sales jobs'

Comments like that explain the need for 'foreigners' to work here if people can be on benefits if they think some jobs are 'bad' or think that 'sales jobs' are beneath them.
I think it's laudable that a Pole or a Latvian will travel to a foreign country for a job when our youth won't go to 'the other side of Huddersfield'

Listen up eejit. Sales jobs are only suitable for people with sales background and mentality, and often only pay commission.

For a description of what constitutes a 'bad job', see one of my previous comments.

How does anyone with no transport get to the other side of Huddersfield for a 6.00am start? or even 9.00am ? What time would they arrive back home? Does the job pay enough to cover transport costs? Usually no.

The Industrial Revolution is finished. There is no industry, there no jobs, and there aren't going to be any jobs. It's over and now the State owes us all a living. Recognize this fact and stop persecuting the unemployed and stop trying to use them as a scapegoat for failing policies in a failed system.

What I actually said:

Interviewer - What's it like at the jobcentre

Me - It's ****! They give you a couple of jobs every month or so to apply for which are in places like the other side of Huddersfield (which I applied for and didn't get, I did NOT refuse a job), where are the jobs in Bradford.

Interviewer - How long have you been looking for work, what did you do before?

Me - I worked at the co-op for 8 years before I got sacked for not listening to one of my supervisors (the only one I didn't get on with).

Interviewer - What type of jobs are out there?

Me - I want a job in a shop/supermarket but there are none. The only jobs there are, are ones where you need experience, or jobs in call centres/sales (in other words, cold-calling people trying to sell them stuff, most of which have been advertised for over a year, even though they reckon they have no vacancies!)

P.S. Like Michael said if there weren't so many immigrants (Polish, Serbian, Slovakian etc) like there was at my last job, then it would be a lot easier to find work. My last job was at Mailway Packaging Solutions which is owned by English people, but is practically run by the foreigners. 90% of workers there are foreign including the people in charge of handing out hours. The English people were lucky to get 15 hours a week, while the foreign receptionists were giving their foreign mates 40 hours a week or more! How is that right?

Another thing, I'm 26 not 24. What training is there for people like me out there, where you don't have to waste 2 years of your life to get the qualifications? I have 9 GCSE's and NVQ level 2 in Retail, what else do I need?

All I want is a 9-5 job in a shop/supermarket, Monday to Friday. I train for football a few nights a week at 7, I play on Sunday mornings and watch Bradford city on Saturdays. I could work more than 9-5 if it doesn't clash with any of my football.

Things are only going to get much worse after next April when JSA is replaced with Universal Credit. Claimants will be required to log-on to the DWP system and do 35 hours per week of job search, which is clearly not going to happen, resulting in all claimants being 'sanctioned' and reduced to the level of Hardship. Many people will be pushed into destitution by this wicked Tory government, whilst the Dole is effectively replaced with lower-rate Hardship, and the Min. Wage is undermined by people on full-level being required to work in exchange for their Benefits. Civil war anyone?

michaelmcclusky wrote:
i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

The state of the reporters handwriting. Did you see it? I think he needs to go back to school, too much time on a computer.

angry bradfordian wrote:
To quote one of these youngsters:

'The others are all bad jobs.'
'Now all the good jobs need experience, otherwise it’s just sales jobs'

Comments like that explain the need for 'foreigners' to work here if people can be on benefits if they think some jobs are 'bad' or think that 'sales jobs' are beneath them.
I think it's laudable that a Pole or a Latvian will travel to a foreign country for a job when our youth won't go to 'the other side of Huddersfield'

Read what I actually said above :-)

A Casual Observer wrote:

Farsley Bantam wrote:

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Why are people on about punctuation and grammer, What jobs do you think are out there . Fools?

'Sales jobs' and 'bad jobs' (whatever they are) according to Daniel Gardecki, 24, of Little Horton.
If I was an employer I would immediately discount any application that contained any spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. I'm not surprised that these people are not hearing back from potential employers. If they can't be bothered to check spelling mistakes for a CV (easily done on any computer) it doesn't bode well for their potential employment.

Bad jobs are the ones that you are expected to travel miles to get to, and then be expected to work hard, often doing the most monotonous of tasks in exchange for very little pay, so that at the end of the week you have less in your pocket than you would have on the dole. Do you see now what 'bad jobs' are? I hope so.

I didn't say 'bad jobs' but I agree with what 'A Casual Observer' has written. If you work 15 hours a week or less and claim JSA, you can end up earning less than you would by just claiming JSA on its own.

Danstarr69 wrote:

angry bradfordian wrote:
To quote one of these youngsters:

'The others are all bad jobs.'
'Now all the good jobs need experience, otherwise it’s just sales jobs'

Comments like that explain the need for 'foreigners' to work here if people can be on benefits if they think some jobs are 'bad' or think that 'sales jobs' are beneath them.
I think it's laudable that a Pole or a Latvian will travel to a foreign country for a job when our youth won't go to 'the other side of Huddersfield'

Read what I actually said above :-)

Apologies, it look like you've been badly misquoted!

I wonder how many jobs for youngsters keen to get a foot on the ladder could be created with the £100m a year currently handed to ATOS to "assess" the sick and disabled to see if they can be thrown into the jobs market to compete with these kids? Or how many more could be funded from the saving in legal aid payments for appeals if this frankly sick process was ended and we went back to believing the medical judgement of our doctors. There are elderly people who need support, why not direct some of the money into that? Improving the quality of life for the vunerable makes the world a better place for us all.

Danstarr69 wrote:
What I actually said:

Interviewer - What's it like at the jobcentre

Me - It's ****! They give you a couple of jobs every month or so to apply for which are in places like the other side of Huddersfield (which I applied for and didn't get, I did NOT refuse a job), where are the jobs in Bradford.

Interviewer - How long have you been looking for work, what did you do before?

Me - I worked at the co-op for 8 years before I got sacked for not listening to one of my supervisors (the only one I didn't get on with).

Interviewer - What type of jobs are out there?

Me - I want a job in a shop/supermarket but there are none. The only jobs there are, are ones where you need experience, or jobs in call centres/sales (in other words, cold-calling people trying to sell them stuff, most of which have been advertised for over a year, even though they reckon they have no vacancies!)

P.S. Like Michael said if there weren't so many immigrants (Polish, Serbian, Slovakian etc) like there was at my last job, then it would be a lot easier to find work. My last job was at Mailway Packaging Solutions which is owned by English people, but is practically run by the foreigners. 90% of workers there are foreign including the people in charge of handing out hours. The English people were lucky to get 15 hours a week, while the foreign receptionists were giving their foreign mates 40 hours a week or more! How is that right?

Another thing, I'm 26 not 24. What training is there for people like me out there, where you don't have to waste 2 years of your life to get the qualifications? I have 9 GCSE's and NVQ level 2 in Retail, what else do I need?

All I want is a 9-5 job in a shop/supermarket, Monday to Friday. I train for football a few nights a week at 7, I play on Sunday mornings and watch Bradford city on Saturdays. I could work more than 9-5 if it doesn't clash with any of my football.

Another thing to add to my post above. If you're 26 years old or older like me then you have to pay to go to college etc. How am I supposed to pay? The only free courses are for things like I.T. using things like Excel and Word.

RollandSmoke wrote:
I wonder how many jobs for youngsters keen to get a foot on the ladder could be created with the £100m a year currently handed to ATOS to "assess" the sick and disabled to see if they can be thrown into the jobs market to compete with these kids? Or how many more could be funded from the saving in legal aid payments for appeals if this frankly sick process was ended and we went back to believing the medical judgement of our doctors. There are elderly people who need support, why not direct some of the money into that? Improving the quality of life for the vunerable makes the world a better place for us all.

On the other hand, how much money is going to be saved by not giving it to people fraudulently claiming?
They're presumably spending the £100m to save an awful lot more than that.

That's also money that will be able to go towards tackling youth unemployment.

angry bradfordian wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
I wonder how many jobs for youngsters keen to get a foot on the ladder could be created with the £100m a year currently handed to ATOS to "assess" the sick and disabled to see if they can be thrown into the jobs market to compete with these kids? Or how many more could be funded from the saving in legal aid payments for appeals if this frankly sick process was ended and we went back to believing the medical judgement of our doctors. There are elderly people who need support, why not direct some of the money into that? Improving the quality of life for the vunerable makes the world a better place for us all.

On the other hand, how much money is going to be saved by not giving it to people fraudulently claiming?
They're presumably spending the £100m to save an awful lot more than that.

That's also money that will be able to go towards tackling youth unemployment.

Judging by the amount of appeals that have been won those fraudulently claiming are very few indeed.

Why doesn't Starbuck's and Google (to name a couple) pay no tax?

Danstarr69 wrote:

A Casual Observer wrote:

Farsley Bantam wrote:

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
Why are people on about punctuation and grammer, What jobs do you think are out there . Fools?

'Sales jobs' and 'bad jobs' (whatever they are) according to Daniel Gardecki, 24, of Little Horton.
If I was an employer I would immediately discount any application that contained any spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. I'm not surprised that these people are not hearing back from potential employers. If they can't be bothered to check spelling mistakes for a CV (easily done on any computer) it doesn't bode well for their potential employment.

Bad jobs are the ones that you are expected to travel miles to get to, and then be expected to work hard, often doing the most monotonous of tasks in exchange for very little pay, so that at the end of the week you have less in your pocket than you would have on the dole. Do you see now what 'bad jobs' are? I hope so.

I didn't say 'bad jobs' but I agree with what 'A Casual Observer' has written. If you work 15 hours a week or less and claim JSA, you can end up earning less than you would by just claiming JSA on its own.

If I worked 40 hours for Min. Wage and then had to pay say £20 per week on travel, I would be approx. £40 per week WORSE OFF than on JSA, which is hard enough to live on as it is!

Admittedly, I'm not a young person still living at home, so it depends on circumstances to some extent, but for a single adult the Min. Wage is out of the question.

angry bradfordian wrote:

RollandSmoke wrote:
I wonder how many jobs for youngsters keen to get a foot on the ladder could be created with the £100m a year currently handed to ATOS to "assess" the sick and disabled to see if they can be thrown into the jobs market to compete with these kids? Or how many more could be funded from the saving in legal aid payments for appeals if this frankly sick process was ended and we went back to believing the medical judgement of our doctors. There are elderly people who need support, why not direct some of the money into that? Improving the quality of life for the vunerable makes the world a better place for us all.

On the other hand, how much money is going to be saved by not giving it to people fraudulently claiming?
They're presumably spending the £100m to save an awful lot more than that.

That's also money that will be able to go towards tackling youth unemployment.

However much is saved is it worth driving vunerable people to dispair as they treat everyone as a suspected fraudster? According to a FOI request by the daily mirror over a thousand people found fit for work by ATOS last year were dead within six weeks. Is this a price worth paying? They are driving many people to comit suicide. Are all these taking their lives benefit cheats?

The people pictured above look like life has been sucked out of them. What gain have people of Bradford had in the last 15 years, zero. We are now worse off. If people want real change, there will after be a price to pay. I'm sure our grandfathers and great grandfathers didn't pay the ultimate price so our corrupt elite could give it all away. Don't listen to them take what you need and stand your ground. Bradford has a great tradition in cooperating when there's a gun on the table.

One guy has a gypsy haircut (you can see the bottom of it sticking out behind his neck under his ear), another a tattoo on his neck. Maybe some people should actually have a look their own appearances and consider if that is a factor in trying to get a job?

I do agree there is very little industry or investment in a large, rapidly expanding city (the fastest outside of London) that doesn't help.
But while I appreciate it is VERY difficult for many people, there are still a lot out there who do themselves no favours in terms of something as simple as their appearance when it comes to impressing potential employers.

Rambo wrote:
One guy has a gypsy haircut (you can see the bottom of it sticking out behind his neck under his ear), another a tattoo on his neck. Maybe some people should actually have a look their own appearances and consider if that is a factor in trying to get a job?

I do agree there is very little industry or investment in a large, rapidly expanding city (the fastest outside of London) that doesn't help.
But while I appreciate it is VERY difficult for many people, there are still a lot out there who do themselves no favours in terms of something as simple as their appearance when it comes to impressing potential employers.

What the chuff has people's haircuts got to do with anything? As for tattoos, loathsome has they may be, they are quite common place, and I am certain there are millions of tattooed people in work in this country right now. You can't judge a book by its cover! I personally would refuse any job that demanded I somehow change my appearance.

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
The people pictured above look like life has been sucked out of them. What gain have people of Bradford had in the last 15 years, zero. We are now worse off. If people want real change, there will after be a price to pay. I'm sure our grandfathers and great grandfathers didn't pay the ultimate price so our corrupt elite could give it all away. Don't listen to them take what you need and stand your ground. Bradford has a great tradition in cooperating when there's a gun on the table.

Of course they've had the life sucked out of them, that is the long term effect of living in poverty. Increase State Benefits and give everyone a free holiday!

BILLTILL wrote:
It is more a case of the "unemployable " in many cases .

Don't want to travel too far ,the job has got to suit me .They just want everything given to them on a plate ,they send applications every week because if they don't they will not get benefit .

Well who the helll wants to travel long distances to do a job in which they have zero interest and that pays a crapp wage? Jeez. And if the Jobcentre constantly force people to provide job-search evidence EVERY time, what else are they meant to do but apply? You talk out of your arrsehole, honestly.

THERE IS NO FUTURE IN ENGLAND'S DREAMING.

michaelmcclusky wrote:
i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

Who the hell is going to employ you now, after making a complete t**t of yourself and a photo to go with it.

And how come all these foreigners have managed to find work in england but you the real english haven`t ?

My answer, probably because your just another lazy NONE EDUCATED DELINQUENT

Danstarr69 wrote:
What I actually said:

Interviewer - What's it like at the jobcentre

Me - It's ****! They give you a couple of jobs every month or so to apply for which are in places like the other side of Huddersfield (which I applied for and didn't get, I did NOT refuse a job), where are the jobs in Bradford.

Interviewer - How long have you been looking for work, what did you do before?

Me - I worked at the co-op for 8 years before I got sacked for not listening to one of my supervisors (the only one I didn't get on with).

Interviewer - What type of jobs are out there?

Me - I want a job in a shop/supermarket but there are none. The only jobs there are, are ones where you need experience, or jobs in call centres/sales (in other words, cold-calling people trying to sell them stuff, most of which have been advertised for over a year, even though they reckon they have no vacancies!)

P.S. Like Michael said if there weren't so many immigrants (Polish, Serbian, Slovakian etc) like there was at my last job, then it would be a lot easier to find work. My last job was at Mailway Packaging Solutions which is owned by English people, but is practically run by the foreigners. 90% of workers there are foreign including the people in charge of handing out hours. The English people were lucky to get 15 hours a week, while the foreign receptionists were giving their foreign mates 40 hours a week or more! How is that right?

Another thing, I'm 26 not 24. What training is there for people like me out there, where you don't have to waste 2 years of your life to get the qualifications? I have 9 GCSE's and NVQ level 2 in Retail, what else do I need?

All I want is a 9-5 job in a shop/supermarket, Monday to Friday. I train for football a few nights a week at 7, I play on Sunday mornings and watch Bradford city on Saturdays. I could work more than 9-5 if it doesn't clash with any of my football.

you dont want to waste 2 years of your life training ? wasnt you quoted as been unemployed for the last 2 years ?

Was that time filled effectively rather than wasting it on training ?

As for a job in retail you have absolutely no chance if your telling employers ALL you want is 9-5 on a monday to friday.

Theres your answer , as to why immigrants are chosen over yourself

I doubt any employer has ever heard the hard grafting Eastern Europeans say well i only want 9-5 Mon-Fri becuse i have football practice on an evening ( and if your still practicing at 26 not 24 you cant be that good at it ) whats more important kicking a bag of wind around or been in employment ?

Im surprised you dont want to start at 10 incase you have to miss an episode of Spongebob, your 26 for gods sake get in the real world...

Get back to work wrote:

Danstarr69 wrote:
What I actually said:

Interviewer - What's it like at the jobcentre

Me - It's ****! They give you a couple of jobs every month or so to apply for which are in places like the other side of Huddersfield (which I applied for and didn't get, I did NOT refuse a job), where are the jobs in Bradford.

Interviewer - How long have you been looking for work, what did you do before?

Me - I worked at the co-op for 8 years before I got sacked for not listening to one of my supervisors (the only one I didn't get on with).

Interviewer - What type of jobs are out there?

Me - I want a job in a shop/supermarket but there are none. The only jobs there are, are ones where you need experience, or jobs in call centres/sales (in other words, cold-calling people trying to sell them stuff, most of which have been advertised for over a year, even though they reckon they have no vacancies!)

P.S. Like Michael said if there weren't so many immigrants (Polish, Serbian, Slovakian etc) like there was at my last job, then it would be a lot easier to find work. My last job was at Mailway Packaging Solutions which is owned by English people, but is practically run by the foreigners. 90% of workers there are foreign including the people in charge of handing out hours. The English people were lucky to get 15 hours a week, while the foreign receptionists were giving their foreign mates 40 hours a week or more! How is that right?

Another thing, I'm 26 not 24. What training is there for people like me out there, where you don't have to waste 2 years of your life to get the qualifications? I have 9 GCSE's and NVQ level 2 in Retail, what else do I need?

All I want is a 9-5 job in a shop/supermarket, Monday to Friday. I train for football a few nights a week at 7, I play on Sunday mornings and watch Bradford city on Saturdays. I could work more than 9-5 if it doesn't clash with any of my football.

you dont want to waste 2 years of your life training ? wasnt you quoted as been unemployed for the last 2 years ?

Was that time filled effectively rather than wasting it on training ?

As for a job in retail you have absolutely no chance if your telling employers ALL you want is 9-5 on a monday to friday.

Theres your answer , as to why immigrants are chosen over yourself

I doubt any employer has ever heard the hard grafting Eastern Europeans say well i only want 9-5 Mon-Fri becuse i have football practice on an evening ( and if your still practicing at 26 not 24 you cant be that good at it ) whats more important kicking a bag of wind around or been in employment ?

Im surprised you dont want to start at 10 incase you have to miss an episode of Spongebob, your 26 for gods sake get in the real world...

By the sounds of it you're someone who has never been out of work in your life. I wonder what it would be like if the shoe was on the other foot and you were unemployed.

"A Casual Observer" is the main poster on this story that actually talks any sense.

If you had been working for 8 years for £650-£800 a month at the co-op (which we helped win a few awards for best store in Yorkshire/England) in un-sociable hours (10-6 or 2-10 for 5 or 6 days a week including at least 1 weekend day) then I'm sure you'd also want a normal 9-5 job.

On that wage of £650-£800 a month I couldn't afford to run a car so it was pointless learning to drive, plus also couldn't afford to move out.
Also with the hours I worked I rarely saw my close mates that's why this year we've set up our own football team which is also something I like doing to keep fit (I can't exactly go and have a football match by myself can I?)

I never drink (unless I'm out, which even when in employment I only did once or twice a month) and I don't take drugs, like a lot on unemployed people. I was also the hardest worker at the co-op and I was in charge of the beer, wines, spirit's, and pop sections, plus one of only two people who kept the warehouse tidy and took the deliveries. I did everything my manager said and found extra jobs to do when I had finished them (unlike some staff including supervisors). The reason I got sacked is because I did not do what this certain supervisor wanted me to do, which was different to the managers previous instructions and would have taken longer to do.

I would be perfect for any job if training was given, but nearly every job out there you need experience. Most of the jobs I have no idea what they are either, asking the jobcentre staff to help is pointless.

If you search on the jobcentre machines it probably comes up with about 300 jobs a day, but I have noticed about 70% are in sales/cold-calling, some have been advertised repeatedly for over a year even though they have no vacancies for the job advertised, some a repeats of the same job, and after you get past 100/300 jobs the locations are no longer Bradford but places like London etc. Why is London coming up in the search results?

Danstarr69 wrote:

Get back to work wrote:

Danstarr69 wrote:
What I actually said:

Interviewer - What's it like at the jobcentre

Me - It's ****! They give you a couple of jobs every month or so to apply for which are in places like the other side of Huddersfield (which I applied for and didn't get, I did NOT refuse a job), where are the jobs in Bradford.

Interviewer - How long have you been looking for work, what did you do before?

Me - I worked at the co-op for 8 years before I got sacked for not listening to one of my supervisors (the only one I didn't get on with).

Interviewer - What type of jobs are out there?

Me - I want a job in a shop/supermarket but there are none. The only jobs there are, are ones where you need experience, or jobs in call centres/sales (in other words, cold-calling people trying to sell them stuff, most of which have been advertised for over a year, even though they reckon they have no vacancies!)

P.S. Like Michael said if there weren't so many immigrants (Polish, Serbian, Slovakian etc) like there was at my last job, then it would be a lot easier to find work. My last job was at Mailway Packaging Solutions which is owned by English people, but is practically run by the foreigners. 90% of workers there are foreign including the people in charge of handing out hours. The English people were lucky to get 15 hours a week, while the foreign receptionists were giving their foreign mates 40 hours a week or more! How is that right?

Another thing, I'm 26 not 24. What training is there for people like me out there, where you don't have to waste 2 years of your life to get the qualifications? I have 9 GCSE's and NVQ level 2 in Retail, what else do I need?

All I want is a 9-5 job in a shop/supermarket, Monday to Friday. I train for football a few nights a week at 7, I play on Sunday mornings and watch Bradford city on Saturdays. I could work more than 9-5 if it doesn't clash with any of my football.

you dont want to waste 2 years of your life training ? wasnt you quoted as been unemployed for the last 2 years ?

Was that time filled effectively rather than wasting it on training ?

As for a job in retail you have absolutely no chance if your telling employers ALL you want is 9-5 on a monday to friday.

Theres your answer , as to why immigrants are chosen over yourself

I doubt any employer has ever heard the hard grafting Eastern Europeans say well i only want 9-5 Mon-Fri becuse i have football practice on an evening ( and if your still practicing at 26 not 24 you cant be that good at it ) whats more important kicking a bag of wind around or been in employment ?

Im surprised you dont want to start at 10 incase you have to miss an episode of Spongebob, your 26 for gods sake get in the real world...

By the sounds of it you're someone who has never been out of work in your life. I wonder what it would be like if the shoe was on the other foot and you were unemployed.

"A Casual Observer" is the main poster on this story that actually talks any sense.

If you had been working for 8 years for £650-£800 a month at the co-op (which we helped win a few awards for best store in Yorkshire/England) in un-sociable hours (10-6 or 2-10 for 5 or 6 days a week including at least 1 weekend day) then I'm sure you'd also want a normal 9-5 job.

On that wage of £650-£800 a month I couldn't afford to run a car so it was pointless learning to drive, plus also couldn't afford to move out.
Also with the hours I worked I rarely saw my close mates that's why this year we've set up our own football team which is also something I like doing to keep fit (I can't exactly go and have a football match by myself can I?)

I never drink (unless I'm out, which even when in employment I only did once or twice a month) and I don't take drugs, like a lot on unemployed people. I was also the hardest worker at the co-op and I was in charge of the beer, wines, spirit's, and pop sections, plus one of only two people who kept the warehouse tidy and took the deliveries. I did everything my manager said and found extra jobs to do when I had finished them (unlike some staff including supervisors). The reason I got sacked is because I did not do what this certain supervisor wanted me to do, which was different to the managers previous instructions and would have taken longer to do.

I would be perfect for any job if training was given, but nearly every job out there you need experience. Most of the jobs I have no idea what they are either, asking the jobcentre staff to help is pointless.

If you search on the jobcentre machines it probably comes up with about 300 jobs a day, but I have noticed about 70% are in sales/cold-calling, some have been advertised repeatedly for over a year even though they have no vacancies for the job advertised, some a repeats of the same job, and after you get past 100/300 jobs the locations are no longer Bradford but places like London etc. Why is London coming up in the search results?

"A Casual Observer" is the main poster on this story that actually talks any sense."
So presumably you wish to emulate his lifetime of being out of work and perpetually moaning about how much of a victim you are, how there is no hope or future for anyone?

It all boils down (in my opinion) to a growing number of school students who think that school is just somewhere to go and kill some time, see your mates and complain whilst doing so. If they put some actual effort into their studies instead of aspiring to minimal effort then maybe they would be reading this article from their office instead of in between each section of the Jeremy Kyle show. I didn't try my hardest at school but fortunately I'm naturally good with exams so got good results, since leaving in 6th form I haven't stopped trying to learn and gain in employment. I now have various qualifications behind me, nice apartment, nice car, great job.........i don't know if people these days just expect things to be handed to them on a silver plate!! Bone Idle comes to mind!

A Casual Observer wrote:

Rambo wrote:
One guy has a gypsy haircut (you can see the bottom of it sticking out behind his neck under his ear), another a tattoo on his neck. Maybe some people should actually have a look their own appearances and consider if that is a factor in trying to get a job?

I do agree there is very little industry or investment in a large, rapidly expanding city (the fastest outside of London) that doesn't help.
But while I appreciate it is VERY difficult for many people, there are still a lot out there who do themselves no favours in terms of something as simple as their appearance when it comes to impressing potential employers.

What the chuff has people's haircuts got to do with anything? As for tattoos, loathsome has they may be, they are quite common place, and I am certain there are millions of tattooed people in work in this country right now. You can't judge a book by its cover! I personally would refuse any job that demanded I somehow change my appearance.

TIts got everything to do with it, thats just how it is though with a lot of employers, wether people like it or not.

Its all well and good saying it shouldnt be like that, but thats just how it is and people know that. Workers need employers more than employers need workers, so unfortunately that means potential employees may have to not look like they sell horses to gypsies if they want to make a good impression.

Get back to work wrote:

michaelmcclusky wrote: i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

Who the hell is going to employ you now, after making a complete t**t of yourself and a photo to go with it. And how come all these foreigners have managed to find work in england but you the real english haven`t ? My answer, probably because your just another lazy NONE EDUCATED DELINQUENT

That should be "NON-EDUCATED", England has a capital E, and it should be "you're" not "your".

bradford rose wrote:

Get back to work wrote:

michaelmcclusky wrote: i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

Who the hell is going to employ you now, after making a complete t**t of yourself and a photo to go with it. And how come all these foreigners have managed to find work in england but you the real english haven`t ? My answer, probably because your just another lazy NONE EDUCATED DELINQUENT

That should be "NON-EDUCATED", England has a capital E, and it should be "you're" not "your".

LOL! Now who's un-educated?

Danstarr69 wrote:

bradford rose wrote:

Get back to work wrote:

michaelmcclusky wrote: i also said if you sent all these forreigners back home to there own countrys there would be a lot more job opportunaties in bradford and the whole country why didnt you put that in with what i said i think you reporters need to learn how to do your job properlys ... but then again the lad that took my comments down was also a forreigner so i gather he wouldnt want to publish the fact that he and his family n friends should go back home so us english real english people could have work!!! send them all back!

Who the hell is going to employ you now, after making a complete t**t of yourself and a photo to go with it. And how come all these foreigners have managed to find work in england but you the real english haven`t ? My answer, probably because your just another lazy NONE EDUCATED DELINQUENT

That should be "NON-EDUCATED", England has a capital E, and it should be "you're" not "your".

LOL! Now who's un-educated?

My humble appologies , mistakes do happen though when its gone 1am in the morning and you have just finished working, having been up since 6am the previous morning.

Maybe i should get a 9-5 job, 5 days a week in a retail establishment allowing me more time to concentrate on my grammar.

Interesting that jobless numbers are falling across the UK as a whole. What is it about Bradford that could possibly be a contributing factor to this issue?

Because obviously the young people they've interviewed for this article are entirely representative of the demographic of young jobless in Bradford.

Wow!! How the hell did that elephant get into my front room???!!

SinnerSaint wrote:
Interesting that jobless numbers are falling across the UK as a whole. What is it about Bradford that could possibly be a contributing factor to this issue?

Because obviously the young people they've interviewed for this article are entirely representative of the demographic of young jobless in Bradford.

Wow!! How the hell did that elephant get into my front room???!!

Don't believe everything you read. The jobless figures only appear to be falling because people have been bullied into applying for insecure low-paid work, much of it temporary or part-time. Also there are many thousands who have had their entitlement to JSA withdrawn, and are now living on Hardship Allowance (not mentioned in the figures). You can say anything you want with statistics but there is no industry and there are no where near enough jobs. In fact, there never can be, because what all politicians know but aren't prepared to say, is that full employment in a Capitalist system is an impossibility. It is more convenient to use the unemployed as a scapegoat, just a smokescreen to fool the likes of you and distract attention away from the real issues.

Rambo wrote:

A Casual Observer wrote:

Rambo wrote:
One guy has a gypsy haircut (you can see the bottom of it sticking out behind his neck under his ear), another a tattoo on his neck. Maybe some people should actually have a look their own appearances and consider if that is a factor in trying to get a job?

I do agree there is very little industry or investment in a large, rapidly expanding city (the fastest outside of London) that doesn't help.
But while I appreciate it is VERY difficult for many people, there are still a lot out there who do themselves no favours in terms of something as simple as their appearance when it comes to impressing potential employers.

What the chuff has people's haircuts got to do with anything? As for tattoos, loathsome has they may be, they are quite common place, and I am certain there are millions of tattooed people in work in this country right now. You can't judge a book by its cover! I personally would refuse any job that demanded I somehow change my appearance.

TIts got everything to do with it, thats just how it is though with a lot of employers, wether people like it or not.

Its all well and good saying it shouldnt be like that, but thats just how it is and people know that. Workers need employers more than employers need workers, so unfortunately that means potential employees may have to not look like they sell horses to gypsies if they want to make a good impression.

It's the other way around, employers wouldn't exist if they had no workers.

A Casual Observer wrote:

Rambo wrote:

A Casual Observer wrote:

Rambo wrote:
One guy has a gypsy haircut (you can see the bottom of it sticking out behind his neck under his ear), another a tattoo on his neck. Maybe some people should actually have a look their own appearances and consider if that is a factor in trying to get a job?

I do agree there is very little industry or investment in a large, rapidly expanding city (the fastest outside of London) that doesn't help.
But while I appreciate it is VERY difficult for many people, there are still a lot out there who do themselves no favours in terms of something as simple as their appearance when it comes to impressing potential employers.

What the chuff has people's haircuts got to do with anything? As for tattoos, loathsome has they may be, they are quite common place, and I am certain there are millions of tattooed people in work in this country right now. You can't judge a book by its cover! I personally would refuse any job that demanded I somehow change my appearance.

TIts got everything to do with it, thats just how it is though with a lot of employers, wether people like it or not.

Its all well and good saying it shouldnt be like that, but thats just how it is and people know that. Workers need employers more than employers need workers, so unfortunately that means potential employees may have to not look like they sell horses to gypsies if they want to make a good impression.

It's the other way around, employers wouldn't exist if they had no workers.

Many employers start a business and as it expands they take on staff, employers are the real creators.

I was talking to a neighbour of mine who lives three doors up about 2 weeks ago. He is about 26 and is from Poland and came over here about 2 years ago. I mentioned that I dont see much of him around and he stated he works 10 hour shifts in a factory and travels from Bradford to Castleford everyday to support his family. He wasnt moaning but was simply happy to have a job at all that paid to help him support his family.

This ^^ is why all the "foreigners" have "stolen" the English jobs. Nothing to do with stealing and more to do with the lazy bone idle culture of today and as posted above by the likes of Observer he wouldnt do this job as it would be too much like hard work or not worth it.

I despair for certain elements of the skiving benefit generation.

Lets hope the Universal Credit when that comes in really hits them hard

Albion. wrote:

A Casual Observer wrote:

Rambo wrote:

A Casual Observer wrote:

Rambo wrote:
One guy has a gypsy haircut (you can see the bottom of it sticking out behind his neck under his ear), another a tattoo on his neck. Maybe some people should actually have a look their own appearances and consider if that is a factor in trying to get a job?

I do agree there is very little industry or investment in a large, rapidly expanding city (the fastest outside of London) that doesn't help.
But while I appreciate it is VERY difficult for many people, there are still a lot out there who do themselves no favours in terms of something as simple as their appearance when it comes to impressing potential employers.

What the chuff has people's haircuts got to do with anything? As for tattoos, loathsome has they may be, they are quite common place, and I am certain there are millions of tattooed people in work in this country right now. You can't judge a book by its cover! I personally would refuse any job that demanded I somehow change my appearance.

TIts got everything to do with it, thats just how it is though with a lot of employers, wether people like it or not.

Its all well and good saying it shouldnt be like that, but thats just how it is and people know that. Workers need employers more than employers need workers, so unfortunately that means potential employees may have to not look like they sell horses to gypsies if they want to make a good impression.

It's the other way around, employers wouldn't exist if they had no workers.

Many employers start a business and as it expands they take on staff, employers are the real creators.

He's a t1t of the highest order. Workshy, state dependent and proud of it. A parasite of the highest grade. As if he knows anything about economics.

I see no-one has responded to my post at 2:59 on Wednesday.

Why can't I find a job? Because there are none.

* Mostly cold-calling jobs
* Jobs advertised still for jobs no longer available over a year later
* Repeats of the same job
* Local job search coming up with London etc in the results

Danstarr69 wrote:
I see no-one has responded to my post at 2:59 on Wednesday.

Why can't I find a job? Because there are none.

* Mostly cold-calling jobs
* Jobs advertised still for jobs no longer available over a year later
* Repeats of the same job
* Local job search coming up with London etc in the results

Actually, I did!
Although as it was attached to someone else's post, maybe you should ask them specifically?

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
When the econem'y wasn't doing so bad the people at the top wanted cheap labou'r . There was no unions screaming out that the lowly paid were been screwed over so the wealthy could make more money by employing even cheaper foreigners. The unions were been paid handsomley to shut'up by (labour).
Now whats happened is you can call a Englishman anything you like, Workshy, Scrounger, Lazy, even racist.
There is no one there protecting the indigenous population.
Face it this country will spend your money on anyone but you.

Very good accurate post.
The labour government by virtue of its 'open door' policy created both wage control and wage restraint by massively increasing the labour force and by creating a climate of fear for those in work.
As this poster pointed out, this was done under the very noses of the Trades Union led by self serving hypocritical individuals whose only interest was getting their own noses in the trough at Westminster.
Put your trust in Labour and the Trades Union at your peril.

wrongsideofthetracks wrote:

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
When the econem'y wasn't doing so bad the people at the top wanted cheap labou'r . There was no unions screaming out that the lowly paid were been screwed over so the wealthy could make more money by employing even cheaper foreigners. The unions were been paid handsomley to shut'up by (labour).
Now whats happened is you can call a Englishman anything you like, Workshy, Scrounger, Lazy, even racist.
There is no one there protecting the indigenous population.
Face it this country will spend your money on anyone but you.

Very good accurate post.
The labour government by virtue of its 'open door' policy created both wage control and wage restraint by massively increasing the labour force and by creating a climate of fear for those in work.
As this poster pointed out, this was done under the very noses of the Trades Union led by self serving hypocritical individuals whose only interest was getting their own noses in the trough at Westminster.
Put your trust in Labour and the Trades Union at your peril.

Yeah, but look on the brightside. At least they brought in a load of folk who would likely vote Labour in a general election....

BD16 wrote:

wrongsideofthetracks wrote:

ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:
When the econem'y wasn't doing so bad the people at the top wanted cheap labou'r . There was no unions screaming out that the lowly paid were been screwed over so the wealthy could make more money by employing even cheaper foreigners. The unions were been paid handsomley to shut'up by (labour).
Now whats happened is you can call a Englishman anything you like, Workshy, Scrounger, Lazy, even racist.
There is no one there protecting the indigenous population.
Face it this country will spend your money on anyone but you.

Very good accurate post.
The labour government by virtue of its 'open door' policy created both wage control and wage restraint by massively increasing the labour force and by creating a climate of fear for those in work.
As this poster pointed out, this was done under the very noses of the Trades Union led by self serving hypocritical individuals whose only interest was getting their own noses in the trough at Westminster.
Put your trust in Labour and the Trades Union at your peril.

Yeah, but look on the brightside. At least they brought in a load of folk who would likely vote Labour in a general election....

If they bothered to register to vote (highly unlikely).

Danstarr69 wrote:
I see no-one has responded to my post at 2:59 on Wednesday.

Why can't I find a job? Because there are none.

* Mostly cold-calling jobs
* Jobs advertised still for jobs no longer available over a year later
* Repeats of the same job
* Local job search coming up with London etc in the results

What do you want people to say ?
this is the T & A not a suggestion box at the jobcentre .

get out there sell yourself , knock on doors , cold call businesses , send speculative letters / e mails attached with a CV. place an advert in the free adds like gum tree etc ...

try voluntary work , do a placement , do a work trial. put flyers on car windscreens, sign up with agencies , join a job club

believe me if your desperate you will find a job, if your picky and choosey its going to be a long wait.

have you had someone look at your CV ? change it frequently if its not getting the desired result.

has your CV got your achievments on , because i was quite impressed with how you ranted on here how hard you had worked , and how you set up your football team. Employers love that stuff..

Only you can get yourself a job , others can help but its down to you to sell yourself.

Get back to work wrote:

Danstarr69 wrote:
I see no-one has responded to my post at 2:59 on Wednesday.

Why can't I find a job? Because there are none.

* Mostly cold-calling jobs
* Jobs advertised still for jobs no longer available over a year later
* Repeats of the same job
* Local job search coming up with London etc in the results

What do you want people to say ?
this is the T & A not a suggestion box at the jobcentre .

get out there sell yourself , knock on doors , cold call businesses , send speculative letters / e mails attached with a CV. place an advert in the free adds like gum tree etc ...

try voluntary work , do a placement , do a work trial. put flyers on car windscreens, sign up with agencies , join a job club

believe me if your desperate you will find a job, if your picky and choosey its going to be a long wait.

have you had someone look at your CV ? change it frequently if its not getting the desired result.

has your CV got your achievments on , because i was quite impressed with how you ranted on here how hard you had worked , and how you set up your football team. Employers love that stuff..

Only you can get yourself a job , others can help but its down to you to sell yourself.

Good post and whilst this is common sense for most working people a lot of the jobless just cant be bothered doing any of this. They simply want someone to give them a job with no effort on their behalf and have the employer wake them up, send a car to pick them up and drop them off everyday.

All this just harps back to this generation that now think everything should be handed to them on a plate

Case study: Barrett Steel Services
David Barker, warehouse manager at Barrett Steel Services, a Bradford steel stockist, turned to migrants to fill gaps in his workforce. “Our works are cold in winter, stifling in summer, noisy and dusty. It’s hard to recruit locally, and I’d spoken to other companies which strongly recommended migrant staff,” he explains.
All story:
http://www.director.
co.uk/MAGAZINE/2006/
10%20Oct/migrant_60_
3.html

It would be interesting to see if there's any correlation between the sharp increase in unemployment and the introduction of tuition fees.

I would imagine young people are even avoiding going to sixth form because they don't want to go to university any more.