Bulls' fans clarity call over penality cash (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

were wakey, London or crusaders penalised like this? I know we are a slightly different case but witholding money from Sky is like.trying to hammer in that final nail

Like the idea that it could go to some of the local business's that have lost money.

Why are the RFL, FA and all the other 'governing bodies' required ? Basically all they do is organise matches, are the teams not capable of doing such a simple task themselves? The RFL take a large slice of customers (supporters) money and keep themselves in fine style.

oddshapedballs wrote:
were wakey, London or crusaders penalised like this? I know we are a slightly different case but witholding money from Sky is like.trying to hammer in that final nail

Always the victim.

Penality oh dear atrocious spelling

"It is believed it would be unlikely the RFL could legally distribute the money to creditors who lost cash when the previous company collapsed."

If that's the case, then the money should be given to a Third Party that WILL pay the creditors. Otherwise, this is no more than a bribe!!!

councilhouselad wrote:
Penality oh dear atrocious spelling

Penality = the quality or state of being penal, liability to punishment.

nosher wrote:
Like the idea that it could go to some of the local business's that have lost money.

in a fair world that would happen.
sadly its not.

The RFL are showing themselves up to be an indecisive and incompetent bunch.

No one seems to see the illegality of what is being said ie Bulls agreed to surrender the “significant” sum of money after its owners were told rival Super League sides were not happy for them to continue playing in the competition unless they gave up part of their share of the annual £1.2 million Sky distribution cash paid to each club.

I am sure the CPS may find this is actually Blackmail. Or will someone tell me different!

Well I'm not a sporting person but even this sound dodgy to me!

Why would rival clubs be interested in the ownership of another club? The club was in trouble and fell into administration, but now someone has bought it. So why do these other clubs feel threatened that a club is going to continue?

A quick look and they are 9th in the league, not exactly a big threat; so why try to given them a further disadvantage?

As said other clubs didnt have this sort of punishment imposed on them, so why Bradford? I think the RFL should inform people as to why and which clubs are the ones who complained.

One more time, the Bulls have had 1.3m debt written off and are set to lose a proportion of 1.2m.
So next season instead of servicing existing debt like the other clubs in super league they start with a clean slate.
So when teams like Salford, etc can't spend to cap because they have to service existing debt, the Bulls will be spending to cap due to debts been wiped clean.
If no punishment is handed out then this will happen over and over again.
The RFL should really have done this years ago and this might have not happened again and again.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
One more time, the Bulls have had 1.3m debt written off and are set to lose a proportion of 1.2m.
So next season instead of servicing existing debt like the other clubs in super league they start with a clean slate.
So when teams like Salford, etc can't spend to cap because they have to service existing debt, the Bulls will be spending to cap due to debts been wiped clean.
If no punishment is handed out then this will happen over and over again.
The RFL should really have done this years ago and this might have not happened again and again.

You are a little naive aren't you.
You keep carping on about something you know nothing about, hoping it will sound plausible, and you will look good.
But as you are writing about our club, you are on a hiding to nothing, no one cares what you think.

What you forget is the fans are not to blame for the clubs demise, in fact they did all they could to help it survive in it's entirety, previous to the new owners taking over.

Once the writing was on the wall, we supporters had to suffer for 4 months, not knowing whether we would have a club, or what league we would be, in or even if we had a new owner, before Omar Khan and Gerry Sutcliffe took over.

This is in fact a New Ownership.
So legally speaking they do not own any of those debts, nor as a new SL club are they obliged to pay any debts excepting their own and the transfer of undertaking contractual obligations.

So as just justice says, why give us further disadvantage? he makes a few other points that you may be well advised to read, before writing anything else.

May I also point out that it isn't a crime to go into administration, and even if it was, it wasn't our responsibility as supporters.
Your attitude is that we personally should take the moral stance for the benefit of other clubs that may be suffering similar problems.

OK Bulls as new owners of a business that have nothing to show at this moment but expense, plus the prospect of being further denied the contracted revenue due to them as a Super League Club,next season,
may well think that the level playing field suddenly is an uphill struggle, with a slate that's not actually clean at all.

But people like you still want more from us, don't you???

raisemeup wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
One more time, the Bulls have had 1.3m debt written off and are set to lose a proportion of 1.2m.
So next season instead of servicing existing debt like the other clubs in super league they start with a clean slate.
So when teams like Salford, etc can't spend to cap because they have to service existing debt, the Bulls will be spending to cap due to debts been wiped clean.
If no punishment is handed out then this will happen over and over again.
The RFL should really have done this years ago and this might have not happened again and again.

You are a little naive aren't you.
You keep carping on about something you know nothing about, hoping it will sound plausible, and you will look good.
But as you are writing about our club, you are on a hiding to nothing, no one cares what you think.

What you forget is the fans are not to blame for the clubs demise, in fact they did all they could to help it survive in it's entirety, previous to the new owners taking over.

Once the writing was on the wall, we supporters had to suffer for 4 months, not knowing whether we would have a club, or what league we would be, in or even if we had a new owner, before Omar Khan and Gerry Sutcliffe took over.

This is in fact a New Ownership.
So legally speaking they do not own any of those debts, nor as a new SL club are they obliged to pay any debts excepting their own and the transfer of undertaking contractual obligations.

So as just justice says, why give us further disadvantage? he makes a few other points that you may be well advised to read, before writing anything else.

May I also point out that it isn't a crime to go into administration, and even if it was, it wasn't our responsibility as supporters.
Your attitude is that we personally should take the moral stance for the benefit of other clubs that may be suffering similar problems.

OK Bulls as new owners of a business that have nothing to show at this moment but expense, plus the prospect of being further denied the contracted revenue due to them as a Super League Club,next season,
may well think that the level playing field suddenly is an uphill struggle, with a slate that's not actually clean at all.

But people like you still want more from us, don't you???

It wan't the BCFC's fans that City went into admin but we have all stuck by and picked up the pieces falling many leagues in the process.

Can we stop it with the victim card please.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

raisemeup wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
One more time, the Bulls have had 1.3m debt written off and are set to lose a proportion of 1.2m.
So next season instead of servicing existing debt like the other clubs in super league they start with a clean slate.
So when teams like Salford, etc can't spend to cap because they have to service existing debt, the Bulls will be spending to cap due to debts been wiped clean.
If no punishment is handed out then this will happen over and over again.
The RFL should really have done this years ago and this might have not happened again and again.

You are a little naive aren't you.
You keep carping on about something you know nothing about, hoping it will sound plausible, and you will look good.
But as you are writing about our club, you are on a hiding to nothing, no one cares what you think.

What you forget is the fans are not to blame for the clubs demise, in fact they did all they could to help it survive in it's entirety, previous to the new owners taking over.

Once the writing was on the wall, we supporters had to suffer for 4 months, not knowing whether we would have a club, or what league we would be, in or even if we had a new owner, before Omar Khan and Gerry Sutcliffe took over.

This is in fact a New Ownership.
So legally speaking they do not own any of those debts, nor as a new SL club are they obliged to pay any debts excepting their own and the transfer of undertaking contractual obligations.

So as just justice says, why give us further disadvantage? he makes a few other points that you may be well advised to read, before writing anything else.

May I also point out that it isn't a crime to go into administration, and even if it was, it wasn't our responsibility as supporters.
Your attitude is that we personally should take the moral stance for the benefit of other clubs that may be suffering similar problems.

OK Bulls as new owners of a business that have nothing to show at this moment but expense, plus the prospect of being further denied the contracted revenue due to them as a Super League Club,next season,
may well think that the level playing field suddenly is an uphill struggle, with a slate that's not actually clean at all.

But people like you still want more from us, don't you???

It wan't the BCFC's fans that City went into admin but we have all stuck by and picked up the pieces falling many leagues in the process.

Can we stop it with the victim card please.

The truth will out won't it?
You are just a bitter and twisted City fan. who still feels the victimisation of your twice demise, even though City have a brand new stadium, good support and a wealthy backer, plus creditors who weren't paid, at the time.
You are somewhat hypocritical to suggest we are moaniing about our lot in life...what upsets me is nothing to do with the money it's the injustice.
(well the cash would be nice!)
And yes most of us, I should imagine, feel deeply about the creditors fate.

But you have no right to keep castigating us or the New owners of the club, due to your bitterness over Bradford City, I personally do wish them well and would hope that one day they will be a premiership side once more.
It is what the City of Bradford needs vibrant and succesful sports clubs.

PS They probably won't ask you to be a director though!

Injustice.
Once again with the victim card.
Get over it and move on, your in the Super League with a club to support.