Pubs from Bradford district listed in CAMRA Good Beer Guide (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Standards have obviously slipped.

There are some very good pubs around Bradford, just a matter of knowing where to look. Most of the Pubco pubs should be avoided, which is easy enough because they are usually shut and have a 'For Sale' sign fixed to the front wall - visit Jacob's Well or Old Bank for example. I think they are running out of punters to fleece.

MontyLeMar wrote:
There are some very good pubs around Bradford, just a matter of knowing where to look. Most of the Pubco pubs should be avoided, which is easy enough because they are usually shut and have a 'For Sale' sign fixed to the front wall - visit Jacob's Well or Old Bank for example. I think they are running out of punters to fleece.

I agree..I see jacobs Well's doors are closed again..a few months after it was re-opened to much fanfare and optimism..The Old Bank would do well now with the bus stop outside it

Albion. wrote:
Standards have obviously slipped.

Not in the "Real Ale" bars they haven't, some excellent pubs in our Area, "Sparrow Bar", "CornDolly", "Haigy's", "Bee Hive", "Fighting ****" all bars not to be missed. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.

Billyboyarnold wrote:

Albion. wrote:
Standards have obviously slipped.

Not in the "Real Ale" bars they haven't, some excellent pubs in our Area, "Sparrow Bar", "CornDolly", "Haigy's", "Bee Hive", "Fighting ****" all bars not to be missed. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.

I was referring to the one that is the main feature in the report.
These things are always a matter of personal opinion......one mans meat etc.

Albion. wrote:

Billyboyarnold wrote:

Albion. wrote:
Standards have obviously slipped.

Not in the "Real Ale" bars they haven't, some excellent pubs in our Area, "Sparrow Bar", "CornDolly", "Haigy's", "Bee Hive", "Fighting ****" all bars not to be missed. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.

I was referring to the one that is the main feature in the report.
These things are always a matter of personal opinion......one mans meat etc.

Yes, you must choose your pubs carefully. I've been in a couple over the last few months which to my surprise had got on the 'Real Ale' trail when before they were only selling cream-flow. I wasn't too surprised when I found that the 'Real Ale' they placed in front of me tasted like vinegar. Luckily they didn't quibble when I asked for something else, but , I mean, you shouldn't have to. Just wish Saltaire would provide proper training when they are supplying pumps and 'Real Ale' to novices.

Not forgetting the Junction at Baildon, who was pub of the year a couple of years ago, not sure why it's not included as the standard of beer and hospitality remain the same.

I think there's a lot of Politics in CAMRA, as other pubs that should eb included are the Corn Dolly, FightingCock, Beehive, Haigys.

Plus there's consistently good beer on offer at the symposium in Idle too.

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Not forgetting the Junction at Baildon, who was pub of the year a couple of years ago, not sure why it's not included as the standard of beer and hospitality remain the same.

I think there's a lot of Politics in CAMRA, as other pubs that should eb included are the Corn Dolly, FightingCock, Beehive, Haigys.

Plus there's consistently good beer on offer at the symposium in Idle too.

I used to own this pub, I think you will find it is still in there. Brighton Bill

MontyLeMar wrote:

Albion. wrote:

Billyboyarnold wrote:

Albion. wrote:
Standards have obviously slipped.

Not in the "Real Ale" bars they haven't, some excellent pubs in our Area, "Sparrow Bar", "CornDolly", "Haigy's", "Bee Hive", "Fighting ****" all bars not to be missed. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.

I was referring to the one that is the main feature in the report.
These things are always a matter of personal opinion......one mans meat etc.

Yes, you must choose your pubs carefully. I've been in a couple over the last few months which to my surprise had got on the 'Real Ale' trail when before they were only selling cream-flow. I wasn't too surprised when I found that the 'Real Ale' they placed in front of me tasted like vinegar. Luckily they didn't quibble when I asked for something else, but , I mean, you shouldn't have to. Just wish Saltaire would provide proper training when they are supplying pumps and 'Real Ale' to novices.

As the Camra BLO (Brewery Liaison Officer) for this Brewery I will mention your comments to the main man at Saltaire Brewery, I am sure your very wise comments will be acted on, and I agree with you 100%. Brighton Bill.

Traditional beers like Tetleys, Carling
and Carlsberg eh!

The article is about pubs selected for the first time. No doubt the old faithfuls like the Fighting **** will still be in there.

It's in there "Basil"

Well done to all. Live in Shipley but Ring O' Bells wrong side form me; will make sure I get up there... and to the others :-P

Albion. wrote:
Standards have obviously slipped.

Have you ever been or is this the usual negative bile which spills forth on every story?

Well done the "Ring O' Bells" I have known the Landlord Mick for a long time and I know he is dedicated to looking after his beers, if you have a bad pint anywhere, just give it back, all decent landlords will swap it without arguing. Brighton Bill.

JAtkinson wrote:

Albion. wrote:
Standards have obviously slipped.

Have you ever been or is this the usual negative bile which spills forth on every story?

I have been and the place was dirty and the beer was horrible, I wasn't impressed with the catering but that isn't the issue here.
As I said "these things are just opinions".
We went elsewhere and enjoyed the food and drink.
I remember Mick when he had the Cup and Ring and I used to visit the Ring O Bells quite often before he had it.
So, yes, "negative bile" and deserved in my opinion.

Billyboyarnold wrote:
Well done the "Ring O' Bells" I have known the Landlord Mick for a long time and I know he is dedicated to looking after his beers, if you have a bad pint anywhere, just give it back, all decent landlords will swap it without arguing. Brighton Bill.

Most decent landlords wouldn't hold up a pint of Tets in place of a real ale !

Some good pubs in Bratfud but too spread out. Halifax and a quick hop on a train to Sowerby Bridge is much better

Mike Strutter wrote:

Billyboyarnold wrote:
Well done the "Ring O' Bells" I have known the Landlord Mick for a long time and I know he is dedicated to looking after his beers, if you have a bad pint anywhere, just give it back, all decent landlords will swap it without arguing. Brighton Bill.

Most decent landlords wouldn't hold up a pint of Tets in place of a real ale !

Some good pubs in Bratfud but too spread out. Halifax and a quick hop on a train to Sowerby Bridge is much better

I don't know what your constitution is like but by the time I've walked between The Corn Dolly, Shoulder of Mutton, City Vaults, Ginger Goose, Sir Titus Salt, The Sparrow, New Beehive, Haigys, Fighting C0ck.. I'm blathered anyway. All good pubs. Too spread out? There's more than a normal man can handle in a square mile round the city centre.

MontyLeMar wrote:

Mike Strutter wrote:

Billyboyarnold wrote:
Well done the "Ring O' Bells" I have known the Landlord Mick for a long time and I know he is dedicated to looking after his beers, if you have a bad pint anywhere, just give it back, all decent landlords will swap it without arguing. Brighton Bill.

Most decent landlords wouldn't hold up a pint of Tets in place of a real ale !

Some good pubs in Bratfud but too spread out. Halifax and a quick hop on a train to Sowerby Bridge is much better

I don't know what your constitution is like but by the time I've walked between The Corn Dolly, Shoulder of Mutton, City Vaults, Ginger Goose, Sir Titus Salt, The Sparrow, New Beehive, Haigys, Fighting C0ck.. I'm blathered anyway. All good pubs. Too spread out? There's more than a normal man can handle in a square mile round the city centre.

Titus Salt ? Come on for christs sake !

Wetherspoons for me, choice
and price.

allannicho wrote:
Wetherspoons for me, choice
and price.

I'll drink to that.

MontyLeMar wrote:

allannicho wrote:
Wetherspoons for me, choice
and price.

I'll drink to that.

Obviously not a real ale fan then !

Cheap beer often near its sell by date which tastes nothing like the equivalent served in a real ale house .

I'd personally rather pay extra for a good pint rather than the dross dished up in a Wetherspoons

Mike Strutter wrote:

MontyLeMar wrote:

allannicho wrote:
Wetherspoons for me, choice
and price.

I'll drink to that.

Obviously not a real ale fan then !

Cheap beer often near its sell by date which tastes nothing like the equivalent served in a real ale house .

I'd personally rather pay extra for a good pint rather than the dross dished up in a Wetherspoons

I must admit I go in for the architecture as much as anything. What he's done to the Sir Titus is interesting, but when I find Saltaire Blonde selling at £1.99 in Bingley/Shipley and others charging £2.80 I swallow my pride and imbibe. Besides Tim Martin is one of the most high profile anti-euro people going and deserves support if you agree with his stance. I also do not hold the view that an expensive pint is necessarily a better pint. It's all down to the training and experience of the bar staff and 'Spoons do train their bar staff. Also there are too many local CAMRA branches who often vote for their local 'Spoons as Pubs of the Season for it to be coincidence. Let's not be snobby about price. I suppose you reckon that the CAMRA campaign to kill the Beer Duty Escalator is a load of nonsense too? The price of a pint is too high.

MontyLeMar wrote:

Mike Strutter wrote:

MontyLeMar wrote:

allannicho wrote:
Wetherspoons for me, choice
and price.

I'll drink to that.

Obviously not a real ale fan then !

Cheap beer often near its sell by date which tastes nothing like the equivalent served in a real ale house .

I'd personally rather pay extra for a good pint rather than the dross dished up in a Wetherspoons

I must admit I go in for the architecture as much as anything. What he's done to the Sir Titus is interesting, but when I find Saltaire Blonde selling at £1.99 in Bingley/Shipley and others charging £2.80 I swallow my pride and imbibe. Besides Tim Martin is one of the most high profile anti-euro people going and deserves support if you agree with his stance. I also do not hold the view that an expensive pint is necessarily a better pint. It's all down to the training and experience of the bar staff and 'Spoons do train their bar staff. Also there are too many local CAMRA branches who often vote for their local 'Spoons as Pubs of the Season for it to be coincidence. Let's not be snobby about price. I suppose you reckon that the CAMRA campaign to kill the Beer Duty Escalator is a load of nonsense too? The price of a pint is too high.

Agree architecture is good.
I never said an expensive pint is better . What I did say is my experience of Wetherspoons is that on average they serve up a crap pint and I'd rather pay more for a good one.
As for training staff, I wonder if it's coincidence that most of the staff tend to serve gap fillers instead of keeping an eye on who is next ? A good bar person should know who is next to be served rather than going down the line serving whoever.