Gerry Sutcliffe is delighted at 'flurry' of offers to help the Bulls

Bradford Bulls’ owners say they have received a flurry of offers of help to build the “Wembley of the North” at Odsal – but cannot yet make plans.

Former Sports Minister Gerry Sutcliffe, who is honorary chairman of Bradford restaurant boss Omar Khan’s OK Bulls Limited, said a number of people had been in touch with suggestions to turn the side’s stadium into a seven-day-a-week, 365-day-a year venue – with proposals on the table including a hairdressers, cafe and museum.

But the Bradford South MP said he and Mr Khan would not be in a position to respond to anyone or form a concrete business plan until the Rugby Football League (RFL) ratifies the change of ownership and decides if the four-time Super League champions can continue to play in the top-flight.

Mr Sutcliffe told the Telegraph & Argus: “We had hoped we would hear whether we have been granted RFL membership at the start of this week but we’re still waiting to hear from them. It’s a concern, but they’re going through the processes.

“Omar is working away to get things moving and looking at business plans, but we can’t do a great deal until we know that our Super League status is secure.

“We’ve been overwhelmed by the people wanting to help us achieve our vision of building the Wembley of the North, I think people are relishing the opportunity to use the site at its full potential, but we can’t say anything to them until we know what’s happening.”

An RFL spokesman said a decision on whether to grant the new owners membership of the governing body is expected to be made during a conference call today, but it had yet to reveal the process for choosing a 14th Super League side.

It has previously been suggested that a mini round of licensing could take place, with Championship sides Leigh, Featherstone and Halifax mooted as potential contenders to replace Bulls, but the spokesman it had yet to decide how a decision will be made.

If a licensing process takes place, is believed much of whether the Bulls' application is successful will depend on the new owners’ ability to take the club forward and counter suggestions that entering administration has given it a competitive advantage.

To offset that, Bulls could forego some of its central distribution, such as television cash, sponsorship funds and revenue from the play-off matches and Grand Finals, over the next two years.

However, Championship clubs would only have a short period to put an application together proving they are ready and have plans in place to step up to the Super League.

The governing body spokesman said other Super League clubs had indicated they want it to remain a 14-team competition. “It may be a Championship club wants to contest the 14th Super League spot,” he added.

“After Friday, the board will make a decision on what should happen.”

Comments(104)

yangyeight says...
7:58am Fri 7 Sep 12

a flurry of offers, cafe, hairdressers, musuem?
hardly going to draw in the crowds!
they need to think of something original, its off the main area for public footfall so they need to make people want to come 365 days a year.
sounds like they are playing guilt trip on RFL to me.

Avro says...
8:00am Fri 7 Sep 12

Sutcliffe needs a reality check!

UP TO to £6m on the table will never make it a "Wembly of the North"

He'll be telling us next that they have bought the Odeon domes....

Thee Voice of Reason says...
8:14am Fri 7 Sep 12

£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.

Sheffieldbull says...
8:33am Fri 7 Sep 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
8:36am Fri 7 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Its reported in the sodding story above so I'm commenting on it. Do you not read the story before commenting?
Should I comment on the weather instead?

monkey belly says...
8:38am Fri 7 Sep 12

it would have been good to hear business people involved like the lady wanting to come on board last week. instead we get hairdressers.!

Sheffieldbull says...
8:47am Fri 7 Sep 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Its reported in the sodding story above so I'm commenting on it. Do you not read the story before commenting?
Should I comment on the weather instead?
Tut tut, language sunshine - look, there's a weather comment for you.

BCFC1234 says...
8:52am Fri 7 Sep 12

Maybe a school too, Im sure we could attract more than 31 pupils at this side of town.

raisemeup says...
8:52am Fri 7 Sep 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Its reported in the sodding story above so I'm commenting on it. Do you not read the story before commenting?
Should I comment on the weather instead?
Yes TVoNR stick to the weather. It is time this was sorted once & for all. One has to admire the patience of the buyers Mr.Khan & Gerry Sutcliffe it must have tested their resolve to the limit.

Bullcity says...
8:58am Fri 7 Sep 12

Some of these comments are quite hurtful --at least these 2 men have saved the Bulls & are putting in 6M more than the last lot for sure .
I wish them well & I will wait to see if we remain in the SL.
If we do we can then go forward and develop the Stadium .
We all know it is one big monster to look after but at the end it is our home and it is light years better than it was some 30 years ago.
The next stage of development will take it even further.
Stop moaning all you lot out there & put in some posotive suggestions that may help us all go forward

Mumby was the best says...
8:59am Fri 7 Sep 12

As has been said before by other posters the ground already exists, the plan was to put a roof over the openside.Whenever any improvements have been mentioned it`s always gets the headline "the wembley of the north"
Nobody in their right mind believes that statement after all this time, but £6million may go along way to making it a more comfortable stadium. Obviously OK is looking at making better use of the ground even if it is a hairdressers or cafe, city were going to have school!

Thee Voice of Reason says...
9:15am Fri 7 Sep 12

SheffieldBull, I have passed comment on the story, you have just followed me round and thrown abuse without even refering to the story, if that what everyone wants on the forum. No comments on the story just throwing insults at each other?

As much as St Helens, Wigan, Leeds, etc all support the fact the Super League is better off with the Bulls in it, you are naive if you think for one second they will give up or allow any advantage over them going forward so as the story quite rightly points to, they will be seeing what the Bulls will be offering in the way of not just strengthening the team to become top 4 now all the debts have gone.

It's fair comment and one that will be discussed behind the scenes as we speak, just because a few on here might not want to acknowledge it is happening shouldn't mean it can't be discussed.

Avro says...
9:23am Fri 7 Sep 12

Bullcity wrote:
Some of these comments are quite hurtful --at least these 2 men have saved the Bulls & are putting in 6M more than the last lot for sure .
I wish them well & I will wait to see if we remain in the SL.
If we do we can then go forward and develop the Stadium .
We all know it is one big monster to look after but at the end it is our home and it is light years better than it was some 30 years ago.
The next stage of development will take it even further.
Stop moaning all you lot out there & put in some posotive suggestions that may help us all go forward
6 milion is NOT being put in, it is UP TO £6m being put in, which in real terms could be a small fraction of £6m

Time wil only tell, for now its simply dreams, and even if it was £6m, this will not transform the venue to being "the Wembley of the North" as its a drop in the ocean compard to what the true cost would be.

Sheffieldbull says...
9:24am Fri 7 Sep 12

Any talk of stadium improvement are met with howls of derision by the usual suspects - with their anti Bulls agenda. As the real Mumby correctly points out, any improvements are to be welcomed, and will be, by all the true fans.
.
Whats the weather like in Bradford today?

Mumby was the best says...
9:48am Fri 7 Sep 12

If there is a few quid knocking about maybe a certain person mentioned in the story can pay his bill to a local company .

AntiDrug says...
10:01am Fri 7 Sep 12

Please no stupid comments
but is there anyone out there that Knows the history of Odsal Stadium?
were you born in the 1930/40s?
If not then you dont know the history, & will not know about the bombings that took place in bradford & surounding areas, There has always been a question about Odsal Stadium, As to what may have happened there, "Surounding area" Is there any truth in these questions, Is that why Many other consortiums have never developed it? May be only a few are priveleged to have the answers to these questions? But it does seem very strange as to why it has never been developed
Not that long ago it was mentioned to extend it and incorporate a Retail Park, But once again the consortium pulled out, Must be some reasons as to why
?

A N Oldman says...
10:11am Fri 7 Sep 12

TVOR, et al. Note, what was also said in this article. " would forego some of the central funding. No sky cash, no advertising cash, no sponsorship, etc." If this is true, the bulls are going into the next two seasons, on a level with other super league clubs. We know how much central funding brings in. The fact they have no debts, the lack of the afore mentioned brings them level. FAKE Mumby, explain your last post.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
10:22am Fri 7 Sep 12

A N Oldman, it clearly states could forego, not would forego.

It wouldn't be all sky cash, etc like your post reads, just a percentage which would forego. Everyone gets 100% of their share, the Bulls get 80% with 20% going elsewhere.

Van Bellen's Baby says...
10:24am Fri 7 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Not sure what you are getting at here Sheff Bull, TVR makes a valid point that not servicing a debt like all other clubs will put it into a potentially advantageous position and that, presumably, is one of the reasons why the TV money might be reduced next time around.

Sheffieldbull says...
10:54am Fri 7 Sep 12

Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Not sure what you are getting at here Sheff Bull, TVR makes a valid point that not servicing a debt like all other clubs will put it into a potentially advantageous position and that, presumably, is one of the reasons why the TV money might be reduced next time around.
Right, I've checked and double checked and coupled to my post at 9:24am I can confirm to you Van Bellen's Baby that I cannot find any reference I made to Debt or Funding, but I'll stand corrected if you care to point out what I may have missed. The T&A article that these comments are attached to relate, in essence, to Odsal Stadium, plans for development and the first 2 and 1/2 comments related to just that, before Mr Reason (sic) weighed in with his theories on funding - something Mr Reason accused me of raking up over and over again only very recently. Hope that clears it up Van B.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
11:02am Fri 7 Sep 12

You missed this bit?

If a licensing process takes place, is believed much of whether the Bulls' application is successful will depend on the new owners’ ability to take the club forward and counter suggestions that entering administration has given it a competitive advantage.

To offset that, Bulls could forego some of its central distribution, such as television cash, sponsorship funds and revenue from the play-off matches and Grand Finals, over the next two years.

Thats what I was commenting on which is within the story or did you just ignore that part of the story?
You commented on absolutely nothing, you just tried to rip into me passing no comment on the story. It's embarassing that you are trying to even suggest otherwise.

A N Oldman says...
11:02am Fri 7 Sep 12

TVOR. In previous articles, I have read on the subject of central funding and the Bulls. Most pointed out that it WOULD be ALL, Sky monies, plus MAYBE a percentage of rest. So I base my arguments, on what I have read, not just on what the T n A, publish. No doubt that will not satisfy you. As you appear to be " I'm right, your wrong" type of person. Cannot accept what others say as fact. I suggest that you take a leaf out of my book, not be blinkered by what the local rag says and read ALL the stuff published on the Bulls.

theviking62 says...
11:10am Fri 7 Sep 12

What are you going on about FAKE Mumby.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
11:15am Fri 7 Sep 12

A N Oldman wrote:
TVOR. In previous articles, I have read on the subject of central funding and the Bulls. Most pointed out that it WOULD be ALL, Sky monies, plus MAYBE a percentage of rest. So I base my arguments, on what I have read, not just on what the T n A, publish. No doubt that will not satisfy you. As you appear to be " I'm right, your wrong" type of person. Cannot accept what others say as fact. I suggest that you take a leaf out of my book, not be blinkered by what the local rag says and read ALL the stuff published on the Bulls.
I know the T&A aren't the best for breaking news so if its elsewhere you have got that info from then thats fine, I was only commenting on what was here.

Steam Pigs says...
11:27am Fri 7 Sep 12

Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Not sure what you are getting at here Sheff Bull, TVR makes a valid point that not servicing a debt like all other clubs will put it into a potentially advantageous position and that, presumably, is one of the reasons why the TV money might be reduced next time around.
So does having a rich benefactor also put you at an unfair advantage to those that don't?

Same thing but no one punishes Wire or Shudds or Stains etc........

BierleyBoy says...
11:28am Fri 7 Sep 12

Khan will only invest if SL status is guaranteed. £6m won't go very far at Odsal. If TV money is rightly withheld to prevent any advantage it will ensure no play offs for at least 2 more seasons. That will have a knock on effect on crowds which will be reduced by season ticket prices going back up and subsequently revenue will fall. The Bulls are on a continuous downward spiral..No mention of the lease in any of this.

Sheffieldbull says...
11:30am Fri 7 Sep 12

"Thee Voice of Reason says...
9:37pm Wed 5 Sep 12

I said I was happy to put it to bed, its Sheffieldbull who keeps bringing up this.
Someone took over Wakefield and paid the debts. Someone took over Bradford and didn't pay the debts. Due to the dofference the RFL can treat each case differently, thats my point and I have no idea what Sheffield is struggling to understand.” and .... "Have you got blinkers on, can't you see that since I said I would put it to bed it's Sheffieldbull who has been the one pushing it?”
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So thats putting it to bed eh? Now on Wednesday you carefully avoided answering the question I asked, will you now point out to me where I made comment on Debt or Funding here today?... No. I thought not.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
11:37am Fri 7 Sep 12

It's like talking to a brick wall.

I was commenting on a story in todays T&A which raised the question of making sure that the Bulls didn't benefit from administration going forward. Is that no longer allowed? The other day I was pointing out as Wakefields admin was exited in a different way to that of the Bulls, there is no reason why both should recieve the same punishment as there are two different senarios being played out.

It would be nice if you commented on the story rather than pointless garbage. Has anything you have said today got anything to do with the story or are you just hounding me? Serious question.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
11:42am Fri 7 Sep 12

Steam Pigs wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
£6m would struggle to turn it into the Fratton Park of the North nevermind Wembley.

There is an interesting line in this story.
"To counter suggestions that Administration has given it a competetive advantage"
That is an important factor. All other teams with existing debt will have to budget for next year to service and cover any existkng debts. The Bulls will be starting with a clean slate and with no debt to service in theory money that would of otherwise had to service debt can now be spent and squad strenthening.
Same old guff from you TVoNR, nothing changes eh? What a naive view of things you have, just like a child!Think you should change your user name to ' I'll aways have the last word' - at least that would have some basis of 'fact' about it.
Not sure what you are getting at here Sheff Bull, TVR makes a valid point that not servicing a debt like all other clubs will put it into a potentially advantageous position and that, presumably, is one of the reasons why the TV money might be reduced next time around.
So does having a rich benefactor also put you at an unfair advantage to those that don't?

Same thing but no one punishes Wire or Shudds or Stains etc........
Having a rich benefactor would probably put you in a more advantageous position but surely you can see the difference with someone bankrolling a club and one which uses administration to clear its debts.
As for your comment the other day don't the creditors know about insurance is similar to a thief telling you well you have insurance don't you as he nicks your car.

Steam Pigs says...
11:47am Fri 7 Sep 12

person of no reason - so you agree legally wiping your debts gives you the same advantage as having a benefactor pouring money in, the only difference being the supposed moral ground??

am I wrong???

A N Oldman says...
11:47am Fri 7 Sep 12

BierleyBoy wrote:
Khan will only invest if SL status is guaranteed. £6m won't go very far at Odsal. If TV money is rightly withheld to prevent any advantage it will ensure no play offs for at least 2 more seasons. That will have a knock on effect on crowds which will be reduced by season ticket prices going back up and subsequently revenue will fall. The Bulls are on a continuous downward spiral..No mention of the lease in any of this.
Bierley boy, Can you explain how you arrived at this? We know TV money will be withheld but where do you get the idea we will unable to reach the playoffs from. Money doesn't stop teams making playoffs, you can get there without it as long as you have a TEAM. As to season tkt sales falling off, because of increase in price, possible, but there are fans out there who will still buy them, come what may.

Some learned people on here feel that the Bulls will still have an advantage. By having no debts to pay.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
11:52am Fri 7 Sep 12

Steam Pigs wrote:
person of no reason - so you agree legally wiping your debts gives you the same advantage as having a benefactor pouring money in, the only difference being the supposed moral ground??

am I wrong???
There are no rules in Super League to stop rich benefactors buying clubs and bankrolling them, there are however rules again administration and the fact that the Bulls haven't as yet been granted a place in next years competition appears to clearly show they intend it not to happen on a regular basis.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
12:06pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Anyhow your somewhat missing the point Steampigs, it's not whether it is the same advantage as having a rich benefactor, there are plenty of teams in super league who have debts and don't have a rich benefactor, the Bulls debt being wiped clear puts them in a more favourable position than those clubs.

Steam Pigs says...
12:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

keep going you might get to the eureka moment in a bit.......

A N Oldman says...
12:30pm Fri 7 Sep 12

TVOR, we know to our cost about administration. To avoid it happening again the RFL, will have to look closely at SLE. Which they are doing. Hence, the relegation and promotion, talk. As to clubs with rich benefactors/sponsors
. Several are pulling the plug, probiz at cas, moving to featherstone less overheads, the owner of Salford, crying out for more sponsorship, so he can cut his cash involvement, owner of Giants, who just gave them 400k to cover holes, but will not do it again. So having a rich benefactor in this day and age, with a major recession imminent, is going to be a problem. As I say, read other papers, sites before commenting.

RuggerTyke says...
12:40pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Hotel, Restaurant, Gym, only viable options

Hudzilla says...
12:47pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Once again, a story get hijacked.

Sometimes i despair.

Is there actual people that see the worst in everything, and ignore the positives?, it seems so...

Mumby was the best says...
1:16pm Fri 7 Sep 12

I was not going to reply due to being called fake Mumby but if you care to read my post above again Viking it's self evident.

Mumby was the best says...
1:25pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
If there is a few quid knocking about maybe a certain person mentioned in the story can pay his bill to a local company .
I`m sure I don`t know what he`s on about but thats about par for the course.
I`m now going to refrain from posting as I feel the forum is being hijacked for some personal gratification

Mumby was the best says...
1:25pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
If there is a few quid knocking about maybe a certain person mentioned in the story can pay his bill to a local company .
I`m sure I don`t know what he`s on about but thats about par for the course.
I`m now going to refrain from posting as I feel the forum is being hijacked for some personal gratification

Thee Voice of Reason says...
1:27pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Hudzilla wrote:
Once again, a story get hijacked.

Sometimes i despair.

Is there actual people that see the worst in everything, and ignore the positives?, it seems so...
Care to explain what you mean by hijacked?
I may have not focused on all the positives in this news but I have kept my replies based on the story in question so if you mean hijacked by discussing something in the story that isn't very positive then I can't see where you are coming from as all the topic is availible to comment possitive or negative as that is what the comment section is about.
If you mean hijacked because some people would rather just have a go at others with no reference to the story then I agree.

Mumby was the best says...
1:49pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote: If there is a few quid knocking about maybe a certain person mentioned in the story can pay his bill to a local company .
I`m sure I don`t know what he`s on about but thats about par for the course. I`m now going to refrain from posting as I feel the forum is being hijacked for some personal gratification
Glad you are leaving but you trolls normally last longer than that. Please leave the forum to us serious posters.

Sheffieldbull says...
1:55pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
It's like talking to a brick wall.

I was commenting on a story in todays T&A which raised the question of making sure that the Bulls didn't benefit from administration going forward. Is that no longer allowed? The other day I was pointing out as Wakefields admin was exited in a different way to that of the Bulls, there is no reason why both should recieve the same punishment as there are two different senarios being played out.

It would be nice if you commented on the story rather than pointless garbage. Has anything you have said today got anything to do with the story or are you just hounding me? Serious question.
Sheffieldbull says...
9:24am Fri 7 Sep 12

Any talk of stadium improvement are met with howls of derision by the usual suspects - with their anti Bulls agenda. As the real Mumby correctly points out, any improvements are to be welcomed, and will be, by all the true fans.
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Whats that then TVoNR? Are you really as stupid you make yourself out to be? Noticed your avoiding my question again... as predicted!

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
1:59pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
SheffieldBull, I have passed comment on the story, you have just followed me round and thrown abuse without even refering to the story, if that what everyone wants on the forum. No comments on the story just throwing insults at each other?

As much as St Helens, Wigan, Leeds, etc all support the fact the Super League is better off with the Bulls in it, you are naive if you think for one second they will give up or allow any advantage over them going forward so as the story quite rightly points to, they will be seeing what the Bulls will be offering in the way of not just strengthening the team to become top 4 now all the debts have gone.

It's fair comment and one that will be discussed behind the scenes as we speak, just because a few on here might not want to acknowledge it is happening shouldn't mean it can't be discussed.
As you are aware TVOR, we differ opinions on many things but I do think you have a valid point and one that could and should be discussed by Bulls fans on an open forum.

This is unlikely to happen with many of the robots on here who still, after all the guff that has been spoken and written about the Bulls over the last few months, will refuse to acknowledge that to begin next season in Super League with a 0 balance debt is indeed very wrong and will not be supported by any of the other clubs in SL.

Cue the barrage of why nots instead of stopping and thinking about the issue for a minute.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
2:15pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
It's like talking to a brick wall.

I was commenting on a story in todays T&A which raised the question of making sure that the Bulls didn't benefit from administration going forward. Is that no longer allowed? The other day I was pointing out as Wakefields admin was exited in a different way to that of the Bulls, there is no reason why both should recieve the same punishment as there are two different senarios being played out.

It would be nice if you commented on the story rather than pointless garbage. Has anything you have said today got anything to do with the story or are you just hounding me? Serious question.
Sheffieldbull says...
9:24am Fri 7 Sep 12

Any talk of stadium improvement are met with howls of derision by the usual suspects - with their anti Bulls agenda. As the real Mumby correctly points out, any improvements are to be welcomed, and will be, by all the true fans.
.
Whats that then TVoNR? Are you really as stupid you make yourself out to be? Noticed your avoiding my question again... as predicted!
I have nothing to answer with regards to you. Your questions are completely.irrelavan
t to anything that I say.

You put head back in a bucket of sand and let the grown ups discuss the actual story rather than have it dragged down by those who would just prefer to argue over nothing.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
2:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sorry bout the typos in the above.

SharonVH says...
2:31pm Fri 7 Sep 12

For Goodness Sake! How old are some of you posting on here? It's worse than a kids playground!

Get a grip and be pleased that someone has taken over the Bulls at such a crucial time. Almost end of the season, coaching staff and players contracts to be decided, RFL to make their announcements re SL status etc.

Try concentrate on supporting the club no matter what league they're in!

Thee Voice of Reason says...
2:41pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: SheffieldBull, I have passed comment on the story, you have just followed me round and thrown abuse without even refering to the story, if that what everyone wants on the forum. No comments on the story just throwing insults at each other? As much as St Helens, Wigan, Leeds, etc all support the fact the Super League is better off with the Bulls in it, you are naive if you think for one second they will give up or allow any advantage over them going forward so as the story quite rightly points to, they will be seeing what the Bulls will be offering in the way of not just strengthening the team to become top 4 now all the debts have gone. It's fair comment and one that will be discussed behind the scenes as we speak, just because a few on here might not want to acknowledge it is happening shouldn't mean it can't be discussed.
As you are aware TVOR, we differ opinions on many things but I do think you have a valid point and one that could and should be discussed by Bulls fans on an open forum. This is unlikely to happen with many of the robots on here who still, after all the guff that has been spoken and written about the Bulls over the last few months, will refuse to acknowledge that to begin next season in Super League with a 0 balance debt is indeed very wrong and will not be supported by any of the other clubs in SL. Cue the barrage of why nots instead of stopping and thinking about the issue for a minute.
Thanks, I thought I was going insane by seeing this, but I'm glad someone else can see it from a different point of view compared to the head in the sand viewpoint.

Sheffieldbull says...
2:56pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Two pious City bods putting their heads together - we get a wooden hut!

AntiDrug says...
3:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Maybe you would like to join them Wooden Top
Cannot resist with your derogatory & insulting comments towards others can you, everybody wrong but you
why dont you go have some fun with your ball & some artics on the Tinsley Flyovers, Do some Trolling there

raisemeup says...
3:37pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Two pious City bods putting their heads together - we get a wooden hut!
I'm with you Sheffield.

What is the reason for them going on and on about it all:

do they think that it will alter anything in the scenario's we are left with.

Obviously they do not understand the concept of Administration and realisation of assets versus what creditors get or don't get.

Why they keep going on is merely to say to the genuine fans, who did support the efforts to get our club trading profitably, whilst paying our debts, that we are somehow also to blame.

I really haven't read such sanctimonious twaddle in a long time.

Of course we feel for the creditors, I'm one of them.

But for all the years I have supported Northern and the Bulls, it's a small price to pay for those years, through the good and bad times.
And if any fool thinks going into Administration is an advantage to the club, think again.You have to be there to know what it's like.

So Sheff. let's us just carry on supporting our team. They have their opinions but that's all they are, their thoughts and musings will not answer anything .

Mumby was the best says...
3:37pm Fri 7 Sep 12

I have often stuck up for Sheffieldbull but on this occasion I find in favour of the other 2.
Chill out Sheffield don't let them grind you down.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
3:43pm Fri 7 Sep 12

raisemeup wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote: Two pious City bods putting their heads together - we get a wooden hut!
I'm with you Sheffield. What is the reason for them going on and on about it all: do they think that it will alter anything in the scenario's we are left with. Obviously they do not understand the concept of Administration and realisation of assets versus what creditors get or don't get. Why they keep going on is merely to say to the genuine fans, who did support the efforts to get our club trading profitably, whilst paying our debts, that we are somehow also to blame. I really haven't read such sanctimonious twaddle in a long time. Of course we feel for the creditors, I'm one of them. But for all the years I have supported Northern and the Bulls, it's a small price to pay for those years, through the good and bad times. And if any fool thinks going into Administration is an advantage to the club, think again.You have to be there to know what it's like. So Sheff. let's us just carry on supporting our team. They have their opinions but that's all they are, their thoughts and musings will not answer anything .
It's the story that brough the unfair advantage quote up or did you miss that.

If a licensing process takes place, is believed much of whether the Bulls' application is successful will depend on the new owners’ ability to take the club forward and counter suggestions that entering administration has given it a competitive advantage

This isn't 2 City fans, it's the actual story above that has raised the issue, so why the attacks on the city fans? Why not discuss the story set out in front. Was the story wrong to suggest a competitive advantage because thats what is being said, your just seeing 2 City fans and the blinkers are on. Lets not forget where the suggestion came from in the first place eh.

Sheffieldbull says...
4:19pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
I have often stuck up for Sheffieldbull but on this occasion I find in favour of the other 2.
Chill out Sheffield don't let them grind you down.
Idiot - you've stolen identities from Mumby, Myself and Viking in the past. You are a coward and a fraud. The odious collection that is terrysblackchicken, scandinavianlovechil
d52 and others can be all attributed to you - what a worthless individual you are! Mop up your trail when you eventually get the boot.

Mumby was the best says...
4:36pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote: I have often stuck up for Sheffieldbull but on this occasion I find in favour of the other 2. Chill out Sheffield don't let them grind you down.
Idiot - you've stolen identities from Mumby, Myself and Viking in the past. You are a coward and a fraud. The odious collection that is terrysblackchicken, scandinavianlovechil d52 and others can be all attributed to you - what a worthless individual you are! Mop up your trail when you eventually get the boot.
Its me sheffield don't get drawn in mate

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
4:53pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Two pious City bods putting their heads together - we get a wooden hut!
Hahaha, must say it made me laugh.

Not pious at all.

Answer me this, if the Bulls had a mediocre season and failed to hit 8th spot but Widnes had gone into admin last season and started with 0 debt this season, therefore being able to spend all their available money on players only, no serviced debt, would you be happy if they finished above you?

I have no axe to grind with The Bulls as a team, in fact quite the opposite, I do have an issue with people never seeing the full picture, or ignoring there is another picture apart from the childlike one they have drawn in their own puerile minds.

Whoisevans? says...
5:11pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Define Flurry a snow flurry light snow?

Correctness says...
6:47pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote: If there is a few quid knocking about maybe a certain person mentioned in the story can pay his bill to a local company .
I`m sure I don`t know what he`s on about but thats about par for the course. I`m now going to refrain from posting as I feel the forum is being hijacked for some personal gratification
Best news I've heard all week, please keep your promise.

A N Oldman says...
6:59pm Fri 7 Sep 12

The fact that the Bulls, will have no monies coming in from Central Funding, goes a long way to levelling the playing field. So to all those who think it's unfair that they have no debt. Think again. Plus, the SLE clubs were aware of what was going to happen and12 of the remaining 13 clubs, voted to keep the Bulls in super league. Cas, are at the moment going through a similar problem as the Bulls, but this will be seen at the end of the season. Salford, another team who are financially, embarrassed, their chair asking again today for more and immediate investment. So come next season how many more will be crying the poor tale. Oh, I forgot the owner of the giants, who are haemorrhaging money, has said he has no more cash available to bail them out. To you all I say, don't rely on just the info you get in this paper. Widen your reading on the Internet. There are loads of papers, Rl site just begging to be read. Theses will give a clearer outlook on what is actually happening. Although there some of you I believe are having difficulty, reading Janet and John books, as well as writing and English. You know who you are. No names, no pack drill.

bullfanregardless says...
8:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

On the other side of the coin we have been severly disadvantaged by the transfer embargo that has been in place and is effectively still in place. Until we know what league we play in next season who would sign for us now. If we are finally granted Super League status for next season there will only be players that no one else wanted still available. Also, we still officially have no coaching team have lost Burgess Elima,possibly Crookes, Sibbet, Jefferies and who knows how many more of the out of contract players have signed elsewhere for next season. As for money who says whilst we may start with a big fat 0 that we will spend to the full cap? It was stated (as a rumour I hasten to add) that Potter has been offered half his previous salary. Now I don't have a clue how much he was on - but if the same type of offers are being made to the out of contract players, how many of them will stay? So we are not coming out of this smelling of roses despite what many might think

theviking62 says...
9:46pm Fri 7 Sep 12

We couldn't talk to other teams players whilst in administration, as we had no owner. But we can talk to who we want to now. There will be our own players, who will have been spoken to now. One or two have spoken to other clubs, eg gale to giants, but these deals are based on our not being in super league. There will be overseas " unknowns " available and no doubt some UK ones.

eadwager says...
10:00pm Fri 7 Sep 12

SharonVH wrote:
For Goodness Sake! How old are some of you posting on here? It's worse than a kids playground!

Get a grip and be pleased that someone has taken over the Bulls at such a crucial time. Almost end of the season, coaching staff and players contracts to be decided, RFL to make their announcements re SL status etc.

Try concentrate on supporting the club no matter what league they're in!
Absolutely spot on sharon.
I think many of those posting on here have never seem a match never mind trying to concentrate on supporting the club.
Although this season has in many ways been horrific it has also in some ways magnificent. The reaction of the team, supporters and staff needs to be contrasted with the those in charge.
Now despite all that and the dim-witted comments on here we seem to be headed for a new era. Only time will tell where this will lead but I am optimistic that the direction is right.

Sheffieldbull says...
10:09pm Fri 7 Sep 12

yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Two pious City bods putting their heads together - we get a wooden hut!
fu-ck off sheffieldbull.
if you live there stay there!
Don't you have the balls to say properly little member, without using a '-'?
.
Sad little member!.
.
Yes, I live there and am happy to continue to do so, thanks for your concern half inch!.
.
Psst!.. every wooden hut needs a spare plank little one - offer your splinter to the cause.

tyker2 says...
10:13pm Fri 7 Sep 12

field are interested. They know how to manage large hols in the ground. And they have got themseves a bid for a 10 year lease of 60 sq ft of shop from my old barber! so must be going ahead NOT.

6 MILLION IS A P IN A POT FOR SUCH A LARGE AREA

Sheffieldbull says...
10:36pm Fri 7 Sep 12

bullfanregardless wrote:
On the other side of the coin we have been severly disadvantaged by the transfer embargo that has been in place and is effectively still in place. Until we know what league we play in next season who would sign for us now. If we are finally granted Super League status for next season there will only be players that no one else wanted still available. Also, we still officially have no coaching team have lost Burgess Elima,possibly Crookes, Sibbet, Jefferies and who knows how many more of the out of contract players have signed elsewhere for next season. As for money who says whilst we may start with a big fat 0 that we will spend to the full cap? It was stated (as a rumour I hasten to add) that Potter has been offered half his previous salary. Now I don't have a clue how much he was on - but if the same type of offers are being made to the out of contract players, how many of them will stay? So we are not coming out of this smelling of roses despite what many might think
Our wonderful Administrator announced his Salary to the gathered crowd at the meeting at the Guide Post- pretty certain he wouldn't take 50% of that after doing it for the last 2 months for nowt bullfanregardless.We will see though. Hope the lads acquit themselves well tomorrow afternoon. COYBs!

matacaster says...
11:17pm Fri 7 Sep 12

"Gerry Sutcliffe is delighted at 'flurry' of offers to help the Bulls"

I think I've cracked it! - McFlurry!

Perhaps Maccydees maybe going to build the biggest halal burger palace in the north?

trueBradfordian says...
11:56pm Fri 7 Sep 12

I have a nice idea.

Allow Bulls to stay in Super League.

The first £1.5M of Sky money is withheld and distributed to Bulls creditors.

Level playing field.

Everyone happy.

:-)

raisemeup says...
12:18am Sat 8 Sep 12

This is the part of the story that most of the dissenters are diseminating!
It's not the full story and it's the RFLs damage limiter for their part in the whole debacle.
Quote> An RFL spokesman said>

"If a licensing process takes place, is believed much of whether the Bulls' application is successful will depend on the new owners’ ability to take the club forward and counter suggestions that entering administration has given it a competitive advantage.

To offset that, Bulls could forego some of its central distribution, such as television cash, sponsorship funds and revenue from the play-off matches and Grand Finals, over the next two years."

Now as Mumby once said TVof R picks a small section of a story to comment on, that appears to be true of many posters about this story!

The question is 'What do you think should happen to the Bulls?' I am sure that 1) The RFL will be delighted that you are intent of being their spokespeople, and main backers in whatever futher hardship we will have to endure.
2) Mr K and Mr S, plus Kate Hardcastle and all those who wish to see a new beginning in Super League for the Bulls, may think they were wrong in trying to save the Club for such a lot of ungrateful fans?

But can I ask all those who wish for a supporters forum to diiscuss the plight of all the creditors and whether or not the Bulls should be further punished and for how long this should carry on.

Firstly how much did you contribute to help those creditors to get paid whilst Bradford Bulls holdings were the parent club,? Secondly how much will they be prepared to pay the creditors out of their own money, to ensure the OK consortium starts with this so called clean sheet morality trip.

Thought so? Silence!

Empty vessels make the most noice!


For what it's worth I support the venture from "OK Bulls" they were the only ones allowed to save us. I will not do the RFLs work for them nor will I be the moral compass for anyone.
I feel deeply for some of the creditors, but the RFL made sure they weren't one of them, didn't they (clawed back £750k they were owed by the Bulls) hypothetically how moral is that?

And before the moral brigade start gearing up for another onslought, an aquaintance of mine lost £20,000 when City last went belly up.

Let's see some bluster from you then, failing that let's all realise that this has been a bloody situation, and what we should be doing is everything we can to move forward into a brighter future, for the sake of our kids/grandchildren, and a future generation who should be able to enjoy and partake of sport in the City of Bradford, whatever that sport it might be.

I'll leave you with this:

"If we open a quarrel with the past and the present, we might find out we've lost the future!"
(Winston Churchill)

New Hall Nev says...
3:15am Sat 8 Sep 12

raisemeup wrote:
This is the part of the story that most of the dissenters are diseminating!
It's not the full story and it's the RFLs damage limiter for their part in the whole debacle.
Quote> An RFL spokesman said>

"If a licensing process takes place, is believed much of whether the Bulls' application is successful will depend on the new owners’ ability to take the club forward and counter suggestions that entering administration has given it a competitive advantage.

To offset that, Bulls could forego some of its central distribution, such as television cash, sponsorship funds and revenue from the play-off matches and Grand Finals, over the next two years."

Now as Mumby once said TVof R picks a small section of a story to comment on, that appears to be true of many posters about this story!

The question is 'What do you think should happen to the Bulls?' I am sure that 1) The RFL will be delighted that you are intent of being their spokespeople, and main backers in whatever futher hardship we will have to endure.
2) Mr K and Mr S, plus Kate Hardcastle and all those who wish to see a new beginning in Super League for the Bulls, may think they were wrong in trying to save the Club for such a lot of ungrateful fans?

But can I ask all those who wish for a supporters forum to diiscuss the plight of all the creditors and whether or not the Bulls should be further punished and for how long this should carry on.

Firstly how much did you contribute to help those creditors to get paid whilst Bradford Bulls holdings were the parent club,? Secondly how much will they be prepared to pay the creditors out of their own money, to ensure the OK consortium starts with this so called clean sheet morality trip.

Thought so? Silence!

Empty vessels make the most noice!


For what it's worth I support the venture from "OK Bulls" they were the only ones allowed to save us. I will not do the RFLs work for them nor will I be the moral compass for anyone.
I feel deeply for some of the creditors, but the RFL made sure they weren't one of them, didn't they (clawed back £750k they were owed by the Bulls) hypothetically how moral is that?

And before the moral brigade start gearing up for another onslought, an aquaintance of mine lost £20,000 when City last went belly up.

Let's see some bluster from you then, failing that let's all realise that this has been a bloody situation, and what we should be doing is everything we can to move forward into a brighter future, for the sake of our kids/grandchildren, and a future generation who should be able to enjoy and partake of sport in the City of Bradford, whatever that sport it might be.

I'll leave you with this:

"If we open a quarrel with the past and the present, we might find out we've lost the future!"
(Winston Churchill)
your really are sad dude and boring also
bulls should not be in sl until theyd payed there detts off 6 million migth get you a new scorebord and not much else potter gone to france and wont be back lol cheeting bulls in nl1 haha every one hates you bulls lol

collos25 says...
7:14am Sat 8 Sep 12

Would anybody in their right mind have anything to with GS were money is concerned I would not trust either of them with a secondhand toilet paper never mind millions of other peoples money.

BCFC LAD says...
8:17am Sat 8 Sep 12

Looks like New Hall Nev or TBC or SLC or many other names and pinched ones has been working nights again to post at that time, How sad he can`t get his head down.

raisemeup says...
9:15am Sat 8 Sep 12

New Hall Nev wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
This is the part of the story that most of the dissenters are diseminating!
It's not the full story and it's the RFLs damage limiter for their part in the whole debacle.
Quote> An RFL spokesman said>

"If a licensing process takes place, is believed much of whether the Bulls' application is successful will depend on the new owners’ ability to take the club forward and counter suggestions that entering administration has given it a competitive advantage.

To offset that, Bulls could forego some of its central distribution, such as television cash, sponsorship funds and revenue from the play-off matches and Grand Finals, over the next two years."

Now as Mumby once said TVof R picks a small section of a story to comment on, that appears to be true of many posters about this story!

The question is 'What do you think should happen to the Bulls?' I am sure that 1) The RFL will be delighted that you are intent of being their spokespeople, and main backers in whatever futher hardship we will have to endure.
2) Mr K and Mr S, plus Kate Hardcastle and all those who wish to see a new beginning in Super League for the Bulls, may think they were wrong in trying to save the Club for such a lot of ungrateful fans?

But can I ask all those who wish for a supporters forum to diiscuss the plight of all the creditors and whether or not the Bulls should be further punished and for how long this should carry on.

Firstly how much did you contribute to help those creditors to get paid whilst Bradford Bulls holdings were the parent club,? Secondly how much will they be prepared to pay the creditors out of their own money, to ensure the OK consortium starts with this so called clean sheet morality trip.

Thought so? Silence!

Empty vessels make the most noice!


For what it's worth I support the venture from "OK Bulls" they were the only ones allowed to save us. I will not do the RFLs work for them nor will I be the moral compass for anyone.
I feel deeply for some of the creditors, but the RFL made sure they weren't one of them, didn't they (clawed back £750k they were owed by the Bulls) hypothetically how moral is that?

And before the moral brigade start gearing up for another onslought, an aquaintance of mine lost £20,000 when City last went belly up.

Let's see some bluster from you then, failing that let's all realise that this has been a bloody situation, and what we should be doing is everything we can to move forward into a brighter future, for the sake of our kids/grandchildren, and a future generation who should be able to enjoy and partake of sport in the City of Bradford, whatever that sport it might be.

I'll leave you with this:

"If we open a quarrel with the past and the present, we might find out we've lost the future!"
(Winston Churchill)
your really are sad dude and boring also
bulls should not be in sl until theyd payed there detts off 6 million migth get you a new scorebord and not much else potter gone to france and wont be back lol cheeting bulls in nl1 haha every one hates you bulls lol
As I said Empty vessels make the most noise (correct spelling).

trueBradfordian says...
9:45am Sat 8 Sep 12

From BPA message board:

"Wembley is the Odsal of the South"

;-)

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
10:59am Sat 8 Sep 12

I love this site, you have one commenting on how others cannot read Janet and John books then the sentence containg the word 'English',as in lessons, is a nonsensical statement. Well done you.

Then another who bandies insults about more than he makes sense wants the players to 'acquit' themselves. This is either a new way to review a court case or the poster is dim and meant to say equip, cannot really blame a typo, just lack of eductaion.

The same poster pulled someone else for not typing a full swear word, which no doubt would get *** out anyway but then goes on to call him a 'member' obviously meaning a gentleman's bits but not actually using the swear words available to describe such. Once again, well done you, I bet you're a hoot on the terraces.

theviking62 says...
11:47am Sat 8 Sep 12

Cell block A another city plank. If you had read the full article, you would have seen, a fair bit of sense spoken. The dig re j and j books was at the troll new hallnev, see his use of English. Now be a good lad and troll off back to the valley.

Sheffieldbull says...
11:52am Sat 8 Sep 12

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
I love this site, you have one commenting on how others cannot read Janet and John books then the sentence containg the word 'English',as in lessons, is a nonsensical statement. Well done you.

Then another who bandies insults about more than he makes sense wants the players to 'acquit' themselves. This is either a new way to review a court case or the poster is dim and meant to say equip, cannot really blame a typo, just lack of eductaion.

The same poster pulled someone else for not typing a full swear word, which no doubt would get *** out anyway but then goes on to call him a 'member' obviously meaning a gentleman's bits but not actually using the swear words available to describe such. Once again, well done you, I bet you're a hoot on the terraces.
Oh dear! I'd have thought if you were going to try to be clever you'd have taken the trouble to get your facts right first - 'D-'Fail,must try harder.
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Shame you let yourself down Muppet - you didn't acquit yourself very well - thicko!..... going by your name, methinks you spend too much time in front of Judges and Magistrates.

Sheffieldbull says...
12:01pm Sat 8 Sep 12

And while your checking your dictionary I suggest you check the spellings of 1) Containing and 2) Education.......lol! you couldn't make it up, could you? Dim?

Sheffieldbull says...
12:05pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Still think your clever Prisioner?.... No, thought not.

yangyeight says...
6:19pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Still think your clever Prisioner?.... No, thought not.
he's clever enough to go out in the sun instead of being a sad person sat on his computer trying to have conversations on a website that is not even in your own town!
you are the muppet troll, now do one.

Sheffieldbull says...
7:56pm Sat 8 Sep 12

yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Still think your clever Prisioner?.... No, thought not.
he's clever enough to go out in the sun instead of being a sad person sat on his computer trying to have conversations on a website that is not even in your own town!
you are the muppet troll, now do one.
In Sheffield we have these clever devices that are not attached by wires - i won't bore you with the details because you wouldn't understand but I can make sure my landscape gardening team are doing a good job. Then i watched my team go down in France to a much better team on the day - this was watched on a device called Sky, again you wouldn't understand mini dick so i won't bother explaining. Sheffield has electricity and everything, you need to get out more, i've heard Bradford has good care in the community so you've nothing to worry about, half inch! Question, which one do you want me to d-o?

yangyeight says...
8:26pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Still think your clever Prisioner?.... No, thought not.
he's clever enough to go out in the sun instead of being a sad person sat on his computer trying to have conversations on a website that is not even in your own town!
you are the muppet troll, now do one.
In Sheffield we have these clever devices that are not attached by wires - i won't bore you with the details because you wouldn't understand but I can make sure my landscape gardening team are doing a good job. Then i watched my team go down in France to a much better team on the day - this was watched on a device called Sky, again you wouldn't understand mini dick so i won't bother explaining. Sheffield has electricity and everything, you need to get out more, i've heard Bradford has good care in the community so you've nothing to worry about, half inch! Question, which one do you want me to d-o?
nice one fool, bulls were not on sky!!
shows what cra-p you talk.
not wasting anymore of my MOBILE internet on you.
ha ha, what a bullsh-itter!!

Sheffieldbull says...
9:17pm Sat 8 Sep 12

yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Still think your clever Prisioner?.... No, thought not.
he's clever enough to go out in the sun instead of being a sad person sat on his computer trying to have conversations on a website that is not even in your own town!
you are the muppet troll, now do one.
In Sheffield we have these clever devices that are not attached by wires - i won't bore you with the details because you wouldn't understand but I can make sure my landscape gardening team are doing a good job. Then i watched my team go down in France to a much better team on the day - this was watched on a device called Sky, again you wouldn't understand mini dick so i won't bother explaining. Sheffield has electricity and everything, you need to get out more, i've heard Bradford has good care in the community so you've nothing to worry about, half inch! Question, which one do you want me to d-o?
nice one fool, bulls were not on sky!!
shows what cra-p you talk.
not wasting anymore of my MOBILE internet on you.
ha ha, what a bullsh-itter!!
Oh dear! - check your facts and then apologise -if you have any danglers. You just don't know do you thicko?.Ask a mate, assuming you have one - are you cell block A in disguise? Don't be too embarrassed, I can help people like you.

moomooland says...
9:35pm Sat 8 Sep 12

yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
yangyeight wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Still think your clever Prisioner?.... No, thought not.
he's clever enough to go out in the sun instead of being a sad person sat on his computer trying to have conversations on a website that is not even in your own town!
you are the muppet troll, now do one.
In Sheffield we have these clever devices that are not attached by wires - i won't bore you with the details because you wouldn't understand but I can make sure my landscape gardening team are doing a good job. Then i watched my team go down in France to a much better team on the day - this was watched on a device called Sky, again you wouldn't understand mini dick so i won't bother explaining. Sheffield has electricity and everything, you need to get out more, i've heard Bradford has good care in the community so you've nothing to worry about, half inch! Question, which one do you want me to d-o?
nice one fool, bulls were not on sky!!
shows what cra-p you talk.
not wasting anymore of my MOBILE internet on you.
ha ha, what a bullsh-itter!!
Funny because i watched the game on Sky tonight too, it was on via the red button service

yangyeight says...
9:42pm Sat 8 Sep 12

i have just been informed they were on telly.
was not scheduled on my tv guide.
twenty20 cricket. (would not watch either!)
whoopee you are right on one thing.
with a name like yours you should have gone.
still a blinkered fool who only sees the bulls point of view and shoots everyone else down.
bored with you now, pint please barkeep....

theviking62 says...
9:55pm Sat 8 Sep 12

More puerile ramblings, by no marks, who know nothing. Not just on here but on the city site. Nothing but brain dead zombies. Can't spell, can't read, yet think there always right and very funny. They must lead very painful lives, the sort of people who stand their bedding up to air, every morning. Purport to go drinking, when a whiff of the barmaids apron, would knock 'em over. The type of people, whose only joy in life is playing " Devils' Advocate " at the expense of others. The type of person, who would deficate theirselves, should they ever meet up some one on here. I'm quite willing to meet, any of you and explain where you are going wrong. Give you extra curricula schooling, in the finer points of etiquette.

Mumby was the best says...
8:50am Sun 9 Sep 12

You are wasting your time Viking, go to RLFANS.com, the moderator there soon gets rid of the trolls. Take care may see you there.

AntiDrug says...
5:45pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Maybe some of these posters Might be better reading the following link
http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Odsal_Stadi

um#Future_redevelopm
ents
& see the costs it would have been "Wembley of the north" £6m Seems like an insult” & thats over 3 years ?
some one mentioned a Roof, would it be like wembley? Or another of the Onion shaped roofs That we now see all over bradford?
Will sutcliffe lose his Parliamentary seat in the next election? and has seen odsal as his next back pocket filler? Last 14 months claims £188k expenses, What the hell is his salary?
If he loses his seat, then has he just jumped on another band wagon?
Dont get me wrong but i would dearly like to see Odsal Stadium Revamped
and the Bulls have a secure future, But sorry i would not put money on it While GS is there”

theviking62 says...
7:16pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Anti drug, WHY? What has GS, done wrong. NOTE, he his only honorary Chairman. So has no actual, role in OK Holdings. It appears you have a vendetta against him. Also, DON'T believe everything you read in Wikipedia. It can be easily altered.

AntiDrug says...
8:40pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Simple anybody who knows him would not trust him with a carrot, and many say the same, just dide your time, and all will be revealed, and pray tell us why Odsal Stadium, Never gets the full masing, always an excuse when the time comes to sign on the dotted line
if it had been a viable venture, things would have happened before, several consortiums Have Had the Finances before, but backs out, and if you trust an MP nowadays then you must be in the minority, They are all in it for money, From Westminster Downwards, if they were so good at doing their jobs, Then why are they constantly been reshuffled, if you or i had a job and could not do it, What would happen,? Up the road, not be offered another Role, But these forums can go on forever, But just wait and see Who has the last word Non Of Us!!!! and if Odsal Stadium does finish up as a different venue, then GS is in the right place Yes on the Council that listens to noboby but themselves, Is not the state of Bradford Enough proof for You?

theviking62 says...
9:02pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Anti drug, your talking absolute bloody rubbish. I know GS and have always found him ok. You mention numerous consortiums, pray tell us who they are. What has cabinet reshuffling got to do with the Bulls, I'll tell you NOWT. GS does not sit on Bradford Council, you idiot. The only thing you are right on it's nothing to do with us. When they were going to build a hotel, sports village etc. a certain Bradford millionaire said he would pull his business out of the City, if Tesco were allowed to build a store there. So you can't blame the council for that.

Anti drug, you maybe, but your thoughts and postings say otherwise.

AntiDrug says...
9:05pm Sun 9 Sep 12

theviking62 wrote:
More puerile ramblings, by no marks, who know nothing. Not just on here but on the city site. Nothing but brain dead zombies. Can't spell, can't read, yet think there always right and very funny. They must lead very painful lives, the sort of people who stand their bedding up to air, every morning. Purport to go drinking, when a whiff of the barmaids apron, would knock 'em over. The type of people, whose only joy in life is playing " Devils' Advocate " at the expense of others. The type of person, who would deficate theirselves, should they ever meet up some one on here. I'm quite willing to meet, any of you and explain where you are going wrong. Give you extra curricula schooling, in the finer points of etiquette.
Please look at your spelling before you condemn others!!!!!
how many Hours have you been Actually / intimately been involed With Odsal Stadium? or has your time just been on the terraces?

theviking62 says...
9:14pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Right oh, brain box, please point out my spelling mistake. What the hell has my association with Odsal got to do with you or anything that's been posted on here.

I would like to point out, again, that your use of English, capitals, spelling, are lacking.

Boy, do you trolls make me laugh.

AntiDrug says...
9:55pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Seems like you cannot read your Own spelling now

Right oh, brain box, please point out my spelling mistake. What the hell has my association with Odsal got to do with you or anything that's been posted on here.

I would like to point out, again, that your use of English, capitals, spelling, are lacking.
Point out what you like nit picker
correct we have a brain box, unlike you brain dead, always right everybody else wrong gets irate when others dont agree with you, proves how childish you are, no respect for others blind as a bat, never answers the questions as asked Because you cannot, Just rambles on like a clapped out hoover
Paraphasing again how many people on here have pointed out WHO the troll is, if you had the insight of Odsal Stadium, you might be able to make some positive comments, But you obviously have not, So dont degrade othere who have, and keep your derogatory statements Re other posters to yourself, and show some respect, your acts on here towards others are despicable, take your crap to the toilet keep these forums clean,
your **** is not welcome by anybody, and your bombastic attitude is deplorable

"I'm quite willing to meet, any of you and explain where you are going wrong."

how bombastic can you get

theviking62 says...
10:37am Mon 10 Sep 12

Anti drug, you are beneath contempt. You say, troll, which just proves my point. You are just another alias for that a*** wipe TBC, SLC52, hijacker of other names of GENUINE supporters on here. Do not try to defend yourself, by saying your not him. Oh, your spelling, use of capitals, punctuation still stinks. The mistake you make is that you revert to a pattern, when challenged. that is insulting ME and others. Get over it.

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
1:57pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Sheffieldbull wrote:
And while your checking your dictionary I suggest you check the spellings of 1) Containing and 2) Education.......lol! you couldn't make it up, could you? Dim?
As I said, not accounting for typos, which mine were, not a choice of an obviously incorrect word, don't try pass yourself of as remotely clever, the fact you aren't has been evident for the last few months.

The name is derived from my seat at VP and a pun related to the old TV programme and book.

And yes yangy, I was wending my way back from Accy at the time of that post. Glorious day, decent point earned, side settling well for a hopeful positive season.

Looking forward to watching the Bulls in the play offs now after their massive win in France.

Ooops, sorry sheffbull, that was me being very clever.

Did you explain why you pulled someone for not swearing then chose the mild insult yourself? Thought not.

AntiDrug says...
2:54pm Mon 10 Sep 12

you must be on the moonshine, now do one, your not worth anyones breath, , but yours is just that , have you got an hot air baloon, !! you certainly would not need a bottle of gas, With all thay HOT
AIR you blow

AItheviking62 says.. NOTHING
Only tries to belittle everybody

But we all know that Goodbye Trolller
Enough time wasted on YOU
.

A N Oldman says...
3:16pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Anti drug, I fully concur with Viking. Viking is NO troll. Unlike others I could name. Yourself included. Now get real, accept your faults and continue with the rest of your life.

AntiDrug says...
3:22pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Do something useful and get a job as an HOT AIR PAINT STRIPPER

theviking62 says...
7:04pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Wow, I do like the jokes these trolls are making. But, they spoil themselves always reverting to type when in the wrong or can't answer, making with the insults. I now believe that most of theses people have been put on this earth to amuse us. Keep the jokes coming.

AntiDrug says...
8:49am Tue 11 Sep 12

Nice to hear you like the jokes,
But you are the BIGGEST JOKE ON HERE

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
9:48am Tue 11 Sep 12

theviking62 wrote:
Wow, I do like the jokes these trolls are making. But, they spoil themselves always reverting to type when in the wrong or can't answer, making with the insults. I now believe that most of theses people have been put on this earth to amuse us. Keep the jokes coming.
Don't believe I got an answer, I got a load of bull from Sheffield but no answer as to if any of you would have thought it fair if a team going into admin last season had stopped The Bulls from making the play offs. A couple have tried to write it off as there will be other penalties(monetary) which will slightly negate the 0 debt situation.

Mumby was the best says...
11:36am Tue 11 Sep 12

Wow and I thought I was unliked by Viking

A N Oldman says...
12:10pm Tue 11 Sep 12

Oh, you are, my friend, although he has stated, today, how funny he has been finding your posts and those of new hall nev.

Mumby was the best says...
12:25pm Tue 11 Sep 12

You seem to act like a big brother school master type to me.

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