New traffic-calming plans drawn up for Nab Wood and Moorhead

New 20mph zones are being proposed New 20mph zones are being proposed

Amended plans drawn up for a traffic-calming scheme, including 20mph zones in Shipley , are being publicised.

Residents have until September 14 to object to the proposals, which are designed to stop speeding and rat-running in Nab Wood and Moorhead.

The original scheme was thrown out by the Shipley Area Committee in January following concerns from residents.

The plans were then reassessed following changes to legislation on 20mph zones, which allow for a reduced number of physical calming measures.

The changes include retaining the 30mph speed limit along Moorhead Lane, but installing raised junctions at the junctions with Avondale Road, Ashfield Road and an existing zebra crossing. The number of vertical calming features has been reduced from six to three.

In Nab Wood , the number of calming measures has been cut from 52 to 18, with speed limit warnings painted in the road and 20mph repeater signs proposed at sites originally earmarked for road humps or other vertical features.

Block-paving has been proposed at the Sherwood Grove, Highfield Terrace and Bromley Road junctions with Bingley Road to slow down crossing traffic and turning vehicles.

Bradford Council has already carried out consultation on the amended proposals, with a majority of people supporting the 20mph zones and traffic calming proposals. In addition, people have called for traffic calming in cul-de-sacs to be removed eventually.

Work is due to start this year on 20mph zones in Saltaire , Wycliffe and Hirst Wood, which were agreed by the committee earlier this year.

The two schemes are both part of a wider £3.3million project to improve traffic flow and safety at the notorious Saltaire roundabout, by turning it into a traffic light junction.

In a report to the area committee last month, Richard Bruce, principal engineer at the Council’s major highways unit, stated: “The traffic calming proposals have been developed as part of the Saltaire Roundabout Improvement project to address existing concerns about the speed and volume of unwanted through-traffic within the residential area.

“The proposals also provide a means of dissuading through-traffic from using residential areas both during and post-construction of the signal controlled junction at the existing Saltaire roundabout junction.”

Details of the draft traffic regulation orders are available to view at City Hall in Bradford and Shipley Town Hall. Any objections should be submitted by noon on Friday, September 14.

If there are objections, the issue will go back before the area committee again.

Comments(23)

thatsnotmyname says...
11:45am Tue 21 Aug 12

Sounds good. Lets move on and get the roundabout sorted now.

It will be interesting to see how much more traffic will be on the main roads from the rat running measures.

angry bradfordian says...
11:46am Tue 21 Aug 12

"The changes include retaining the 30mph speed limit along Moorhead Lane"

Did the original plans serious suggest lowering it to 20mph? It's hardly a 'rat-running' route- it's a main road for God's sake!
I don't thing the council are going to be happy until every road in Bradford has a 20 limit.

smitd says...
11:56am Tue 21 Aug 12

You ought to see the speed calming measure they have just built in Baker Street, Saltaire the ''hump'' is that high only the bus can get over it

yezboss says...
1:37pm Tue 21 Aug 12

If they think this will reduce collisions they need to rethink it. The latest stats from the D f T show where such speed limits have been installed the collision rate has escalated.
Also who is going to enforce it?

BagOfMonkeys says...
1:44pm Tue 21 Aug 12

What we need is more 5mph zones and Huge speedbumbs .........

Utter rubbish, I live in a 20mph zone and nobody but me seems to stick to the limit, in fact most still buzz along at 40 (the whizz kids in their music blaring motors do 50+ wheelies).

Nope just a few policemen with speed guns would do the trick, and mightily cheaper. And for speed bumps anyone notice how they adversely affect your suspensions?! The best (worst bump of all is at the end of Grove House Road/Bolton Road junction - they look innocuous but you can feeeeel the damage as the car lurches over them)

basil fawlty says...
1:48pm Tue 21 Aug 12

I see no problems with 20 mph zones as long as they are supported by traffic calming. What I am against is measures such as introducing bollards and one-way systems as I think that this is an unreasonable solution because it force funnels all the traffic onto what are already badly congested main roads.

a reasonable sort of chap says...
1:51pm Tue 21 Aug 12

I welcome measures to reduce speed, but really it is more a matter of enforcing existing limits that are routinely flouted on a daily basis. We need more speed cameras, in all areas, on all roads.

angry bradfordian says...
2:14pm Tue 21 Aug 12

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
I welcome measures to reduce speed, but really it is more a matter of enforcing existing limits that are routinely flouted on a daily basis. We need more speed cameras, in all areas, on all roads.
I completely agree (for a change!)

I wonder how many people who campaign for speed limits in their own street can say hand on heart that they never speed in anybody else's neighbourhood where other people's children might be playing.

webess says...
2:20pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Consultation? yeah right.

Council have already made their mind up and will have placed order for jerry built speed humps

whoflungdung says...
2:34pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Get round Bradford Moor where motorists drive on the pavements, blatantly drive through red lights and do just about everything else to break the law - it is an effin joke!
Speed bumps on the footpaths then???

beardedclam says...
4:05pm Tue 21 Aug 12

smitd wrote:
You ought to see the speed calming measure they have just built in Baker Street, Saltaire the ''hump'' is that high only the bus can get over it
What are you driving? a go-kart?

fish'n'chips says...
4:35pm Tue 21 Aug 12

The last speed bump on Wrose Road near the Coop is a killer on my car i hate the things. But once again the majority are punished for the minoritys crimes. If the traffic police did the job right we would'nt have to suffer the damage these things are causing my car the last MOT my car failed for front suspension bush's and cost £120 for the replacements to be fitted.

Joedavid says...
5:08pm Tue 21 Aug 12

More work for those that repair cars.

yangyeight says...
5:35pm Tue 21 Aug 12

i see someone as been crying because they did not like my opinion and got it removed!
a reasonable sort of chap,
so do you catch the bus then?!!

cockadoodledo says...
6:02pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Residents should be under no illusions as putting in place 20MPH speed limits will NOT have any real impact. Speak to your Local Police, they will tell you that ALL such schemes are to be SELF POLICING and they will NOT get invloved in any form of enforecment in such Zones. Your Ward Councillors will also be aware that this is the case so speak with them.

gregort says...
6:08pm Tue 21 Aug 12

thinking outside the box but how about the police do their job

NO51GET says...
6:34pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Once they start with 20mph zones they wont know when to stop......!!
And if they taught more road safety there wouldnt be so many accidents...!!
And whos gonna enforce the limits...??? oh wait....no one so then they will have an excuse to add cameras....!!!!!!!!!

Drop it now and save the money to teach road safety in schools.....!!!!

cockadoodledo says...
6:45pm Tue 21 Aug 12

It is police policy NOT to enforce speeding in 20mph. zones so think again , in addition speed cameras will only be installed after a set number of accidents have been recorded.We have tried all of the above in our area and drawn a blank.Drivers ignore the traffic calming and travel in excess of 40mph.
I wish you good luck! My opinion is a complete waste of money!! Dont bother.

basil fawlty says...
6:54pm Tue 21 Aug 12

cockadoodledo wrote:
Residents should be under no illusions as putting in place 20MPH speed limits will NOT have any real impact. Speak to your Local Police, they will tell you that ALL such schemes are to be SELF POLICING and they will NOT get invloved in any form of enforecment in such Zones. Your Ward Councillors will also be aware that this is the case so speak with them.
I dont disagree except that a small percentage of people will tend to obey the signs so they wont be totally. Road humps are likely to work for a large percentage of people, although the 4 wheel drive and white van brigade will no doubt mostly speed on. Understandably the police have got higher priorities.

SellingEnglandByThePound says...
8:55pm Tue 21 Aug 12

They want to use the same speed humps they have at Asda in Bierley, they're chuffing lethal!!!

mad matt says...
9:23pm Tue 21 Aug 12

We have speed bumps in the street, the square ones - absolutely useless when all the local hot-heads simply fit bushes to the wheels to give them a wider track and belt down the street at 50 mph in perfect comfort!
Mind you I did have a good laugh the other night when a rather heavily laden low-slung car got stuck on the top of a bump and all the passengers had to get out in the rain so the driver could free the thing - with some rather expensive scraping sounds!
As for the police, they can't police the 40 limits so 20 is a complete waste of time.

Patrick Bateman says...
6:52am Wed 22 Aug 12

Traffic does not need to be 'calmed' in this area in the first place. I use it regularly and rarely see speeding or inconsiderate driving. What a waste of public money: increased inconvenience, travelling time and car damage will be the only result of this dumb proposal.

Apollo says...
8:05am Wed 22 Aug 12

Who cares? This is Bradford where everyone just does what they want, particularly in cars. Speed limits, use of mobiles, not wearing seat belts, anti-social driving, no tax, no insurance, no MOT, blacked out windows, illegal lights etc etc.

All, of course, backed up by no enforcement.

Although to be fair I have recenlty seen a large number of cars pulled over by unmarked cars in Keighley - keep that up please.

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