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New traffic-calming plans drawn up for Nab Wood and Moorhead
11:00am Tuesday 21st August 2012 in News
New 20mph zones are being proposed
Amended plans drawn up for a traffic-calming scheme, including 20mph zones in Shipley , are being publicised.
Residents have until September 14 to object to the proposals, which are designed to stop speeding and rat-running in Nab Wood and Moorhead.
The original scheme was thrown out by the Shipley Area Committee in January following concerns from residents.
The plans were then reassessed following changes to legislation on 20mph zones, which allow for a reduced number of physical calming measures.
The changes include retaining the 30mph speed limit along Moorhead Lane, but installing raised junctions at the junctions with Avondale Road, Ashfield Road and an existing zebra crossing. The number of vertical calming features has been reduced from six to three.
In Nab Wood , the number of calming measures has been cut from 52 to 18, with speed limit warnings painted in the road and 20mph repeater signs proposed at sites originally earmarked for road humps or other vertical features.
Block-paving has been proposed at the Sherwood Grove, Highfield Terrace and Bromley Road junctions with Bingley Road to slow down crossing traffic and turning vehicles.
Bradford Council has already carried out consultation on the amended proposals, with a majority of people supporting the 20mph zones and traffic calming proposals. In addition, people have called for traffic calming in cul-de-sacs to be removed eventually.
Work is due to start this year on 20mph zones in Saltaire , Wycliffe and Hirst Wood, which were agreed by the committee earlier this year.
The two schemes are both part of a wider £3.3million project to improve traffic flow and safety at the notorious Saltaire roundabout, by turning it into a traffic light junction.
In a report to the area committee last month, Richard Bruce, principal engineer at the Council’s major highways unit, stated: “The traffic calming proposals have been developed as part of the Saltaire Roundabout Improvement project to address existing concerns about the speed and volume of unwanted through-traffic within the residential area.
“The proposals also provide a means of dissuading through-traffic from using residential areas both during and post-construction of the signal controlled junction at the existing Saltaire roundabout junction.”
Details of the draft traffic regulation orders are available to view at City Hall in Bradford and Shipley Town Hall. Any objections should be submitted by noon on Friday, September 14.
If there are objections, the issue will go back before the area committee again.
Comments(23)
angry bradfordian
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11:46am Tue 21 Aug 12
Did the original plans serious suggest lowering it to 20mph? It's hardly a 'rat-running' route- it's a main road for God's sake!
I don't thing the council are going to be happy until every road in Bradford has a 20 limit.
smitd
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11:56am Tue 21 Aug 12
yezboss
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1:37pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Also who is going to enforce it?
BagOfMonkeys
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1:44pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Utter rubbish, I live in a 20mph zone and nobody but me seems to stick to the limit, in fact most still buzz along at 40 (the whizz kids in their music blaring motors do 50+ wheelies).
Nope just a few policemen with speed guns would do the trick, and mightily cheaper. And for speed bumps anyone notice how they adversely affect your suspensions?! The best (worst bump of all is at the end of Grove House Road/Bolton Road junction - they look innocuous but you can feeeeel the damage as the car lurches over them)
basil fawlty
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1:48pm Tue 21 Aug 12
a reasonable sort of chap
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1:51pm Tue 21 Aug 12
angry bradfordian
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2:14pm Tue 21 Aug 12
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:I completely agree (for a change!)
I welcome measures to reduce speed, but really it is more a matter of enforcing existing limits that are routinely flouted on a daily basis. We need more speed cameras, in all areas, on all roads.
I wonder how many people who campaign for speed limits in their own street can say hand on heart that they never speed in anybody else's neighbourhood where other people's children might be playing.
webess
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2:20pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Council have already made their mind up and will have placed order for jerry built speed humps
whoflungdung
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2:34pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Speed bumps on the footpaths then???
beardedclam
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4:05pm Tue 21 Aug 12
smitd wrote:What are you driving? a go-kart?
You ought to see the speed calming measure they have just built in Baker Street, Saltaire the ''hump'' is that high only the bus can get over it
fish'n'chips
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4:35pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Joedavid
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5:08pm Tue 21 Aug 12
yangyeight
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5:35pm Tue 21 Aug 12
a reasonable sort of chap,
so do you catch the bus then?!!
cockadoodledo
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6:02pm Tue 21 Aug 12
gregort
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6:08pm Tue 21 Aug 12
NO51GET
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6:34pm Tue 21 Aug 12
And if they taught more road safety there wouldnt be so many accidents...!!
And whos gonna enforce the limits...??? oh wait....no one so then they will have an excuse to add cameras....!!!!!!!!!
Drop it now and save the money to teach road safety in schools.....!!!!
cockadoodledo
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6:45pm Tue 21 Aug 12
I wish you good luck! My opinion is a complete waste of money!! Dont bother.
basil fawlty
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6:54pm Tue 21 Aug 12
cockadoodledo wrote:I dont disagree except that a small percentage of people will tend to obey the signs so they wont be totally. Road humps are likely to work for a large percentage of people, although the 4 wheel drive and white van brigade will no doubt mostly speed on. Understandably the police have got higher priorities.
Residents should be under no illusions as putting in place 20MPH speed limits will NOT have any real impact. Speak to your Local Police, they will tell you that ALL such schemes are to be SELF POLICING and they will NOT get invloved in any form of enforecment in such Zones. Your Ward Councillors will also be aware that this is the case so speak with them.
SellingEnglandByThePound
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8:55pm Tue 21 Aug 12
mad matt
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9:23pm Tue 21 Aug 12
Mind you I did have a good laugh the other night when a rather heavily laden low-slung car got stuck on the top of a bump and all the passengers had to get out in the rain so the driver could free the thing - with some rather expensive scraping sounds!
As for the police, they can't police the 40 limits so 20 is a complete waste of time.
Patrick Bateman
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6:52am Wed 22 Aug 12
Apollo
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8:05am Wed 22 Aug 12
All, of course, backed up by no enforcement.
Although to be fair I have recenlty seen a large number of cars pulled over by unmarked cars in Keighley - keep that up please.
thatsnotmyname says...
11:45am Tue 21 Aug 12
It will be interesting to see how much more traffic will be on the main roads from the rat running measures.