NHS team in bid to tackle obesity (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

It amazes me how many grossly fat people there are these days, one has to wonder about their intelligence.

Albion. wrote:
It amazes me how many grossly fat people there are these days, one has to wonder about their intelligence.

Most likely a lot higher than yours.

A lot of jobs these days are desk jobs. All you do is sit in from of a PC all day. And if they have a family they then spend time with their family during the evenings, assuming they are good parents.

Add the fact that we live in a country where we are treated like cattle and have a "live to work" society, with prices increasing and wages not, people have to spend more time working to make a decent living.

So people arrive home for a long days work, too tired to make fresh, healthy meals and just order takeaways. Hence why some people are getting fatter.

Until this country adopts a "work to live" society like they do in europe, we wont see things get better. I mean they wanted to cancel the Jubilee bank holiday!
"We're in it all together" until they want more money by making us work more. If that was the case, why werent the Olympics cancelled? We've seen how big an affect it had on local trading, down by 30%!

justjustice wrote:

Albion. wrote:
It amazes me how many grossly fat people there are these days, one has to wonder about their intelligence.

Most likely a lot higher than yours.

A lot of jobs these days are desk jobs. All you do is sit in from of a PC all day. And if they have a family they then spend time with their family during the evenings, assuming they are good parents.

Add the fact that we live in a country where we are treated like cattle and have a "live to work" society, with prices increasing and wages not, people have to spend more time working to make a decent living.

So people arrive home for a long days work, too tired to make fresh, healthy meals and just order takeaways. Hence why some people are getting fatter.

Until this country adopts a "work to live" society like they do in europe, we wont see things get better. I mean they wanted to cancel the Jubilee bank holiday!
"We're in it all together" until they want more money by making us work more. If that was the case, why werent the Olympics cancelled? We've seen how big an affect it had on local trading, down by 30%!

There are plenty of people doing those jobs who keep themselves in good shape.

justjustice wrote:

Albion. wrote:
It amazes me how many grossly fat people there are these days, one has to wonder about their intelligence.

Most likely a lot higher than yours.

A lot of jobs these days are desk jobs. All you do is sit in from of a PC all day. And if they have a family they then spend time with their family during the evenings, assuming they are good parents.

Add the fact that we live in a country where we are treated like cattle and have a "live to work" society, with prices increasing and wages not, people have to spend more time working to make a decent living.

So people arrive home for a long days work, too tired to make fresh, healthy meals and just order takeaways. Hence why some people are getting fatter.

Until this country adopts a "work to live" society like they do in europe, we wont see things get better. I mean they wanted to cancel the Jubilee bank holiday!
"We're in it all together" until they want more money by making us work more. If that was the case, why werent the Olympics cancelled? We've seen how big an affect it had on local trading, down by 30%!

I don't have a job, and all I do is sit in front of a PC all day, yet I am approx. 3 Stones underweight!

Why is there never any advice on how to GAIN weight?

Generally, all these diet plans last about 8 weeks and then people go back to their old routines. OK, a small percentage succeed. I have tried them all. I lost weight on every diet and then rationalised its inevitable return.

So is there is there something wrong with the diet plans suggested by the health professionals?

Read 'Diet Evolution' by Dr Steven Gundry.

Dr Gundry is recognised as one of the worlds leading heart surgeons.
He holds patents on some of the most commonly used equipment used for open heart surgery.

From his vast medical experience he has come up with a food regime which will cause you to loose weight; counter high blood pressure, bad cholesterol, elevated blood sugar levels, and high insulin levels.

Sounds too good to be true, but expect to have to go against conventional wisdom and be prepared for a revolution in what you eat.

For me it has bee a 'life saver'.

Now in my second year.

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Why is there never any advice on how to GAIN weight?

lol, made me laugh.

These diets are just fads, just recently I read that so called health bars contain more sugar than a can of coke! And filled with saturates to make them more filling.

Different people have different rates of metabolism. So if you eat more and has a slow metabolism and dont do much exercise you will gain weight very quickly.

For chap above, he probably has a fast metabolism, eats normal/more due to it but still loses weight even though he sits at his desk all day.

Point is there are a million different reasons why people get fat. Real question is why are people so hateful of fat people?
And what does other people being fat got to do with you? Why do you have to meddle in their problem, it has nothing to do with you. It's between them and their GP if they think they have a problem and need help.

justjustice wrote:

a reasonable sort of chap wrote: Why is there never any advice on how to GAIN weight?

lol, made me laugh. These diets are just fads, just recently I read that so called health bars contain more sugar than a can of coke! And filled with saturates to make them more filling. Different people have different rates of metabolism. So if you eat more and has a slow metabolism and dont do much exercise you will gain weight very quickly. For chap above, he probably has a fast metabolism, eats normal/more due to it but still loses weight even though he sits at his desk all day. Point is there are a million different reasons why people get fat. Real question is why are people so hateful of fat people? And what does other people being fat got to do with you? Why do you have to meddle in their problem, it has nothing to do with you. It's between them and their GP if they think they have a problem and need help.

My impression is that the majority of people who diet do it because they are worried about their appearance rather than their health. That may be the wrong attitude but trying to look fit is nature's way of continuing the species!

justjustice wrote:

Albion. wrote:
It amazes me how many grossly fat people there are these days, one has to wonder about their intelligence.

Most likely a lot higher than yours.

A lot of jobs these days are desk jobs. All you do is sit in from of a PC all day. And if they have a family they then spend time with their family during the evenings, assuming they are good parents.

Add the fact that we live in a country where we are treated like cattle and have a "live to work" society, with prices increasing and wages not, people have to spend more time working to make a decent living.

So people arrive home for a long days work, too tired to make fresh, healthy meals and just order takeaways. Hence why some people are getting fatter.

Until this country adopts a "work to live" society like they do in europe, we wont see things get better. I mean they wanted to cancel the Jubilee bank holiday!
"We're in it all together" until they want more money by making us work more. If that was the case, why werent the Olympics cancelled? We've seen how big an affect it had on local trading, down by 30%!

With respect, what you are saying is nonsense. It is impossible to become even slightly overweight on a diet of fish and fresh vegetables or fresh chicken, along with VERY carefully reading EVERY label on each product, to make sure that there is as little saturated fat; low sugar and salt. Also being intelligent enough to avoid things like pizza, pies, cheese based meals including pasta sauces with that in; curry; take away food and so on. Everything can else can be eaten in moderation, such as having crisps three of four times a year and not every day. Another thing is to not drink alcohol or only occasionally and in small amounts. Also do not have chips frequently and limit this to once every other week for example, and in small portions.

This is just a few examples of what can be done, and is what I have done all my life. I am 41 this year and have done a sitting down job most of my life, and I rarely get any exercise and yet I am the same size, shape and weight as when I was a teenager; I am 6' 1" and weigh 10st 3lbs. I never eat between meals and certainly no crisps, cheap chocolate or sugary drinks; always have a good breakfast (usually porridge). Whenever I have to eat away from home, I take a healthy packed lunch.

Whenever I see what people buy in the supermarket, it both amazes and shocks me. Some people openly admit they are bone idle and have no desire to eat properly or cook their own meals! In that case all healthcare should be denied to them.