New buyer bids for Bradford Bulls (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Administrator says RFL will make decision on latest offer today
12:31pm Wednesday 8th August 2012 in News
By Hannah Postles, T&A Reporter
Brendan Guilfoyle
The administrator of struggling Bradford Bulls today revealed he is considering a new, undisclosed offer for the club - worth more than a previous bid by Super League Europe.
Brendan Guilfoyle, partner at The P&A Partnership, said the Rugby Football League is considering the takeover deal from a new potential buyer, whose identity has not been disclosed, and is expected to make its decision this afternoon.
Mr Guilfoyle said: “I put the offer to the RFL last Friday and they will make their decision later on this afternoon.
“I understand the frustration of fans, players and staff that we haven’t sold the club yet. The administrators have a duty to creditors to aim to get the best deal possible so we submit all offers where funds are proved.
“This new offer is for more than Super League (Europe) Ltd put forward so we felt obliged to submit to the RFL for consideration.”
Comments(76)
Bone_idle18
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12:40pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Ken Morrison?
Another of Caisley's covers?
monkey belly
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12:41pm Wed 8 Aug 12
is this the final throw of the dice and who is in the shadows behind this mysterious bid.
monkey belly
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12:42pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Reality50
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12:43pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mumby was the best
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12:51pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Thee Voice of Reason
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12:54pm Wed 8 Aug 12
BrisBull
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12:54pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Bone_idle18
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12:56pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Reality50 wrote:So you think Wakefield and London also have no right to be in SL? Londaon have been in administration plenty, not even received a points deduction and I suspect were even liquidated at one stage, onlt to re-emerge as Harlequins RL!
The fact is no one is going to make a big offer unless SL membership is guaranteed.Anyone would be crazy to invest and buy a club that is in the Championship with no prospect of promotion.Bulls should be forcibly relegated after the next 4 games but of course they won't as SL and the RFL are bent to the core.Hope Bulls survive but not as an SL club as they gave up all right to being in SL with the farce of the last few months.
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No on can tell me London are a greater asset to SL than Bulls, I don't think you could even argue Wakefield are a greater asset.
Bone_idle18
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12:57pm Wed 8 Aug 12
monkey belly wrote:I know, but it's good to dream that a strong backer with no hidden agenda has emerged!
sorry bone idle, its hardly likely to be the first two.
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Thee Voice of Reason
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12:57pm Wed 8 Aug 12
BrisBull wrote:Lets put it this way, they would strong be considered if they made the right noises rather than the previous bidders who were told no conditions but just ignored it.
Surely if they pay their creditors and have financial stability, along with a viable business plan they have as much right as, say Wakefield did?
Lets hope this is good news so the regular 11k can enjoy Friday.
shikran
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1:05pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mumby was the best
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1:09pm Wed 8 Aug 12
shikran wrote:Many a true word spoke in jest!
CC trying to drive the price up
Bacon Bantam
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1:14pm Wed 8 Aug 12
shikran wrote:Maybe so, but I wouldn't expect SLE to adjust their bid, their bid is probably take it or leave it as we aren't bidding against people on it.
CC trying to drive the price up
-HCK3R-
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1:14pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Blotto
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1:17pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Bacon Bantam wrote:Well seeing as the RFL showed its hand in the SLE bid, will the new bid pass muster even unconditionally??
shikran wrote:Maybe so, but I wouldn't expect SLE to adjust their bid, their bid is probably take it or leave it as we aren't bidding against people on it.
CC trying to drive the price up
parader no1
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1:26pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Bone_idle18 wrote:The RFL are hell bent on having a foothold in the capital although the capital has shown that it is not the slightest interested in RL. The RFL have bent, altered or simply turned a blind eye to Londopn clubs and it is about time they gave the franchise to a northern club with RL at its heart
Reality50 wrote:So you think Wakefield and London also have no right to be in SL? Londaon have been in administration plenty, not even received a points deduction and I suspect were even liquidated at one stage, onlt to re-emerge as Harlequins RL!
The fact is no one is going to make a big offer unless SL membership is guaranteed.Anyone would be crazy to invest and buy a club that is in the Championship with no prospect of promotion.Bulls should be forcibly relegated after the next 4 games but of course they won't as SL and the RFL are bent to the core.Hope Bulls survive but not as an SL club as they gave up all right to being in SL with the farce of the last few months.
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No on can tell me London are a greater asset to SL than Bulls, I don't think you could even argue Wakefield are a greater asset.
Eddie Tees
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1:28pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Reality50
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1:48pm Wed 8 Aug 12
andylaptew@talk21.com
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1:56pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Andy L
monobrow man
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1:56pm Wed 8 Aug 12
otleybull
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2:00pm Wed 8 Aug 12
From what I gather Guilfoyle and CC go back many years.
andylaptew@talk21.com
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2:02pm Wed 8 Aug 12
otleybull
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2:02pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Eddie Tees
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2:05pm Wed 8 Aug 12
otleybull wrote:Of course, no one ever lies on twitter. I do hope your are wrong
The bid is from Chris Caisley, it was confirmed on twitter by Michael Gledhill. I wondered how long it'd be before he turned up. From what I gather Guilfoyle and CC go back many years.
Wots up
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2:13pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Eddie Tees
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2:20pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mick Gledhill
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2:20pm Wed 8 Aug 12
This new £3,000,000 bid has nothing to do with Chris Caisley.
Mumby was the best
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2:24pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mick Gledhill wrote:Thank the heavens for that!!
Sincere apologies for any confusion earlier.
This new £3,000,000 bid has nothing to do with Chris Caisley.
GC BD4
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2:25pm Wed 8 Aug 12
monkey belly wrote:Bloody Hell, He's got a tongue he's found the Scarlet Pimpernal ' they seek him there they seek him everywhere'
at last he makes a statement.
is this the final throw of the dice and who is in the shadows behind this mysterious bid.
proberly another stalling tactic.
Fozz13
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2:34pm Wed 8 Aug 12
flashdonut
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2:48pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mumby was the best wrote:IF this is the same Mick Gledhill and not a troll with a nickname change.
Mick Gledhill wrote:Thank the heavens for that!!
Sincere apologies for any confusion earlier.
This new £3,000,000 bid has nothing to do with Chris Caisley.
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Sign of the times when I have to think like that.
shikran
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2:51pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Blotto wrote:Be interesting to find out.
Bacon Bantam wrote:Well seeing as the RFL showed its hand in the SLE bid, will the new bid pass muster even unconditionally??
shikran wrote:Maybe so, but I wouldn't expect SLE to adjust their bid, their bid is probably take it or leave it as we aren't bidding against people on it.
CC trying to drive the price up
Bacon your probably right on reflection theyve probably no interest in a bidding war
Bone_idle18
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2:54pm Wed 8 Aug 12
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But London, time for a change I think! Another French club would be better, it would make a great local derby for Catalans, and raise the standard in France.
Bacon Bantam
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3:03pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Bone_idle18 wrote:Fairly bold statements to make about kicking London out of the SL when the Bulls are hanging by a thread.
OK, I concede Wakey are heading in the right direction and new stadium is a boost, and they're steeped in history! . But London, time for a change I think! Another French club would be better, it would make a great local derby for Catalans, and raise the standard in France.
Shouldn't one put their own house in order first before ruling over others.
Eddie Tees
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3:15pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Bacon Bantam wrote:As far as I know Bone Idle does not have the casting vote and is mearly expressing an opinion. One or two local lads coming through at London now. Might that help bring the crowds in?
Bone_idle18 wrote: OK, I concede Wakey are heading in the right direction and new stadium is a boost, and they're steeped in history! . But London, time for a change I think! Another French club would be better, it would make a great local derby for Catalans, and raise the standard in France.Fairly bold statements to make about kicking London out of the SL when the Bulls are hanging by a thread. Shouldn't one put their own house in order first before ruling over others.
Reality50
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3:30pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Wally Lewis
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4:09pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Eddie Tees
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4:16pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Wally Lewis wrote:Where has this come from?
This Bid that has been on the table since last week covers ALL debts to creditors and the business plan that has been submitted in detail as we have been requested to do so shows how the club will be turned into a profit making organisation within 4 years. The Business plan that has been submitted has been worked on by staying in Super League. The RFL stated that all debts must be paid to ensure the remainder of the license. This has been taken care off. The offer is totally unconditional and ensures the Bulls will remain at Odsal and Funds will be in place over the next 4 seasons to spend the full Salary cap. We have already today held talks with Mr Potter concerning an extended contract and have advised the UK Border agency in order to secure a new Visa for my Potter and others as of yet unnamed. We now await the 2 parties.
Mumby was the best
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4:17pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Wally Lewis wrote:Are you the real Wally Lewis? Please don`t be a Troll winding us up.
This Bid that has been on the table since last week covers ALL debts to creditors and the business plan that has been submitted in detail as we have been requested to do so shows how the club will be turned into a profit making organisation within 4 years. The Business plan that has been submitted has been worked on by staying in Super League. The RFL stated that all debts must be paid to ensure the remainder of the license. This has been taken care off. The offer is totally unconditional and ensures the Bulls will remain at Odsal and Funds will be in place over the next 4 seasons to spend the full Salary cap. We have already today held talks with Mr Potter concerning an extended contract and have advised the UK Border agency in order to secure a new Visa for my Potter and others as of yet unnamed. We now await the 2 parties.
Bacon Bantam
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4:24pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Eddie Tees wrote:He's just made it up to please everyone on the site.
Wally Lewis wrote: This Bid that has been on the table since last week covers ALL debts to creditors and the business plan that has been submitted in detail as we have been requested to do so shows how the club will be turned into a profit making organisation within 4 years. The Business plan that has been submitted has been worked on by staying in Super League. The RFL stated that all debts must be paid to ensure the remainder of the license. This has been taken care off. The offer is totally unconditional and ensures the Bulls will remain at Odsal and Funds will be in place over the next 4 seasons to spend the full Salary cap. We have already today held talks with Mr Potter concerning an extended contract and have advised the UK Border agency in order to secure a new Visa for my Potter and others as of yet unnamed. We now await the 2 parties.Where has this come from?
tyker2
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4:25pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Reality50 wrote:precisely:the golden key to unlock this unholy mess is held by the SL.
The fact is no one is going to make a big offer unless SL membership is guaranteed.Anyone would be crazy to invest and buy a club that is in the Championship with no prospect of promotion.Bulls should be forcibly relegated after the next 4 games but of course they won't as SL and the RFL are bent to the core.Hope Bulls survive but not as an SL club as they gave up all right to being in SL with the farce of the last few months.
Could it be the one and only MARL LAWN: it would give him another platform to berate supporters!!
tyker2
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4:26pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Tricky Dicky
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4:36pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mumby was the best
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4:38pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Tricky Dicky wrote:Draw the line at Gordon Brown!!
Will some of you please get real, please. If the bid comes from Chris Caisley, Gary Hethrington, Gordon Brown or Tweedledum and Tweedledee, does it really matter if it results in the secure future of the club AND its future in Super League (which has a limited life expectancy IMHO). Please, beggars really can't be choosers!
Spirit of '64
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4:50pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mr Capp
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5:00pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Spirit of '64
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5:05pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mr Capp wrote:Dont think there are any restaurants in keighley with that kind of cash. Not from selling bhunas anyway
So the bidders are from Keighley then. Anybody know which indian restaurant?
BirchLane-1964
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5:24pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mumby was the best
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5:31pm Wed 8 Aug 12
justjustice
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5:49pm Wed 8 Aug 12
scandanavian's love child52
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6:25pm Wed 8 Aug 12
olicanabull
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6:35pm Wed 8 Aug 12
scandanavian's love child52
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7:35pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Mumby was the best
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7:39pm Wed 8 Aug 12
scandanavian's love child52 wrote:You shouldn`t believe Calendar news
Well its been rejected so SLE it is.
Someone on the red amber and black forum posted this:-
"@RobJonesSport-RFL have confirmed they are seriously considering the first UNCONDITIONAL offer for the Bradford Bulls, more meetings over next few days"
Rob Jones works for BBC Sport by the way.
PS I don`t plagiarise I say where I saw or heard it.
kira171239
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8:11pm Wed 8 Aug 12
raisemeup
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8:22pm Wed 8 Aug 12
I listened to BS of the RFL, and he is saying he doesn't know what league we will be playing in next year.. Boots and All was not very helpful, apart form Eddie Hemmings who actually said it as it will be, if the Bulls go down to championship 1....there will be no Bradford Bulls, period???
Mc Dermot and O' Connor, say glibly they think our support will follow us wherever we go, and the fighting spirit that we have shown etc. etc etc.
Hogwash! We will have no money-no players-no coach and an expensive ground to run, and the revoked licence will mean at least another two years in the wilderness and more.
It's time it was all finished, with a decision one way or another.
All fans., players / staff/ coaches and their families are absolutely fed up with the underhand way this fiasco has been dealt with.
How much longer ?
PS If the RFL were politicians, we at least could vote them out of office.
trueBradfordian
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8:33pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Given the lack of real information, I will choose to believe that this latest event is just another episode an a well-reheased charade.
If this new person or consortium had the means to unconditionally rescue the club, why did they wait unto two liquidation deadlines had passed before declaring themselves?
Please stop taking the ****. We are up to our necks in it.
Bullcity
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8:37pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Want to keep our players & coaches & have a real go next year & even reach the play offs this year.
Think posotive all of you and stop moaning & get hoping that we keep all our current status --despite all we deserve it for our SL contribution since the start of SL.
COYB
manure
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8:59pm Wed 8 Aug 12
manure
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8:59pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Sheffieldbull
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9:22pm Wed 8 Aug 12
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The simple question is... IF the latest offer for the Bulls is 'unconditional' as per RFL and includes paying all creditors including HMRC and presenting a business plan together with proof of funding over the next 2/3 years, why would the Bulls not expect to see out the remaining 2 seasons of the Super League license (Liquidation has not taken place) and re-applying along with the rest at the next round of Licensing. This is not aimed at Bull hating or Bull baiting opinion, just on the conditions set out above. I ask this because this is what my Clubs future relies upon, it appears.
Anti-Firm
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9:26pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Thee Voice of Reason
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9:36pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Sheffieldbull wrote:If those conditions mentioned above are met then I see no reason why the Bulls would be replaced in super league.
Well here's a question i'll put out for comment on here. It's become obvious that this is the place of sages, reason, law. reality and truth, together with the wise and knowledgeable bitter fans from City (not all), LS6 and various successful hotbeds of Rugby League ala Halifax, Cougars and even those who speculate, guess and research. There are the others but we will not acknowledge them - they know who they are.
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The simple question is... IF the latest offer for the Bulls is 'unconditional' as per RFL and includes paying all creditors including HMRC and presenting a business plan together with proof of funding over the next 2/3 years, why would the Bulls not expect to see out the remaining 2 seasons of the Super League license (Liquidation has not taken place) and re-applying along with the rest at the next round of Licensing. This is not aimed at Bull hating or Bull baiting opinion, just on the conditions set out above. I ask this because this is what my Clubs future relies upon, it appears.
The trouble is meeting those conditions as it appears quite clear the RFL are not willing to change them.
theviking62
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10:20pm Wed 8 Aug 12
http://www.sportingl
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74210/rfl-hopeful-bu
lls-will-be-saved
scandanavian's love child52
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10:31pm Wed 8 Aug 12
theviking62
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scandanavian's love child52
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theviking62
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11:06pm Wed 8 Aug 12
/sport/0/rugby-leagu
e/19180069, this thread, on the beeb, says a little bit more, to go with the one from sporting life. Talks about an" unconditional " bid. Which sounds very promising. But no doubt it won't please everybody. I waiting for a pointless reply from some on here.
Shaggy69
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11:18pm Wed 8 Aug 12
bradfordbronco
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11:21pm Wed 8 Aug 12
raisemeup
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11:25pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Sheffieldbull wrote:The simple question is right on the button.
Well here's a question i'll put out for comment on here. It's become obvious that this is the place of sages, reason, law. reality and truth, together with the wise and knowledgeable bitter fans from City (not all), LS6 and various successful hotbeds of Rugby League ala Halifax, Cougars and even those who speculate, guess and research. There are the others but we will not acknowledge them - they know who they are.
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The simple question is... IF the latest offer for the Bulls is 'unconditional' as per RFL and includes paying all creditors including HMRC and presenting a business plan together with proof of funding over the next 2/3 years, why would the Bulls not expect to see out the remaining 2 seasons of the Super League license (Liquidation has not taken place) and re-applying along with the rest at the next round of Licensing. This is not aimed at Bull hating or Bull baiting opinion, just on the conditions set out above. I ask this because this is what my Clubs future relies upon, it appears.
Absolutely accurate as far as I know?
All parameters are covered, and even the amount seems to be right.
Our club has been bandied about so much with all that's gone on dare we hope for a simple solution??
Let's all hope that we have the final solution, through the new bidders.
Tell you what- If all we hope is true. Friday night is going to be one hell of a crowd and one hell of a celebration.
arhmen aleg
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11:32pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Irinically comes in with Nigel Wood in Australia.
We will see.
John Tordoff a possible but thats blind speculatiion.
Due Dilligence would be easy with that families wealth
bradfordbronco
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12:11am Thu 9 Aug 12
The game in the London area is growing faster than in any other SL clubs area. These juniors are potential England players of the future. Replacing London with Halifax or Featherstone etc will result in a hugh loss of talent to the game. Not one single extra player would come through the ranks if another of the heartland clubs was admitted to the League.
It might take a few more years for the London experiment to succeed but lets remember that clubs like Hudds, Widnes, Salford etc have taken over 100 years to get crowds of approx 5000!!! In fact Wakefield v Castleford struggled to get 7000 for thei "big" derby game at the weekend.
Kick London out if you think it will improve things but so called Heartland clubs like Workington, Doncaster, Hull, Hull KR, Oldham, Huddersfield, Salford, Widnes, Castleford, Wakefield have all spent less time in SL and most have brought very little to the competition.
Restricting the game to the M62 corridor is a sure way of killing it. The national team will never beat Australia, We will lose TV revenue & sponsorship, the players will have to go part time or play Rugby Union & the game will stagnate and die.
Some Northern Numpties might not like it, but the game needs to develop outside the west Yorkhire/ South Lancs area. The problems the game face are not the fault of London Broncos. It wasnt their fault only 6000 northerners bothered to turn up to watch an England game at Huddersfield recently.
The game suffers because of its "northern"image. Lets put more effort into the development clubs & less into the Widnes's, Halifax's, Featherstones, Leighs etc, who've all tried and failed before, on many occasions
bradfordbronco
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12:11am Thu 9 Aug 12
The game in the London area is growing faster than in any other SL clubs area. These juniors are potential England players of the future. Replacing London with Halifax or Featherstone etc will result in a hugh loss of talent to the game. Not one single extra player would come through the ranks if another of the heartland clubs was admitted to the League.
It might take a few more years for the London experiment to succeed but lets remember that clubs like Hudds, Widnes, Salford etc have taken over 100 years to get crowds of approx 5000!!! In fact Wakefield v Castleford struggled to get 7000 for thei "big" derby game at the weekend.
Kick London out if you think it will improve things but so called Heartland clubs like Workington, Doncaster, Hull, Hull KR, Oldham, Huddersfield, Salford, Widnes, Castleford, Wakefield have all spent less time in SL and most have brought very little to the competition.
Restricting the game to the M62 corridor is a sure way of killing it. The national team will never beat Australia, We will lose TV revenue & sponsorship, the players will have to go part time or play Rugby Union & the game will stagnate and die.
Some Northern Numpties might not like it, but the game needs to develop outside the west Yorkhire/ South Lancs area. The problems the game face are not the fault of London Broncos. It wasnt their fault only 6000 northerners bothered to turn up to watch an England game at Huddersfield recently.
The game suffers because of its "northern"image. Lets put more effort into the development clubs & less into the Widnes's, Halifax's, Featherstones, Leighs etc, who've all tried and failed before, on many occasions
scandanavian's love child52
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2:54am Thu 9 Aug 12
I can see clearly now... says...
12:39pm Wed 8 Aug 12