Westfield granted court order to evict Bradford Occupy protesters (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

"In June last year, the company announced it hoped to restart the mothballed scheme in the first half of 2012"
But they did not?
What they saying now 2013, 2024???

this will never get built:westfield will go bust before fulfilling it's contract with Bradford council. we will be left with nothing for ever and ever.

amen

Have the council actually given any excuses why they did not set deadlines for this project, which if not met would incur fines?!

Perhaps next time the council should display the full contractual agreements with contractors so that we, the public, can scrutinise them and point out the parts that they havent been bothered checking or even putting in place! Cos it seems clear the council have no clue of how to expand and rejuvenate Bradford!

OH looks like someone has recreated this epetition, the previous ones were closed as they were not about asking an inquiry into the actions of the council. The government cant tell a company to do something, but they can ask the council why it has done what it has done.

So you should get people to sign this petition

http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/34836

So the protesters have now been evicted, WHAT NOW!!! maybe turn it into a lunchtime park for all the people that eat out of paper bags, instead of walking round the streets of Bradford eating which i find quite disgusting. It could even be named "GREGGS PARK"

After almost a decade Wastefield spring into action - pity it's against people who actually care about the disgraceful destruction they have wrought in Bradford

Amazing how quickly all the legalities to get an eviction were obtained. How much longer does it take those inept tw@ts in the council to do the same with gypsies on council land? Usual story, BMDC - unfit for purpose!

Ordinarily I don't support this kind of action but in this case I fully support these protesters. It is an absoute disgrace and for the council to grumble that the protesters are costing the council money to deal with people who support the city is also a disgrace. Who gets that money by the way, greedy lawyers methinks.

Silsdenman wrote:
Ordinarily I don't support this kind of action but in this case I fully support these protesters. It is an absoute disgrace and for the council to grumble that the protesters are costing the council money to deal with people who support the city is also a disgrace. Who gets that money by the way, greedy lawyers methinks.

I have to disagree. Ordinarily I DO support this kind of action but in this case I do not support these protesters! I've never heard of a pro-Capitalist demonstration before, it's completely nuts! We don't need a new shopping mall, no one I know wants one. We have plenty of shops as it is, and we certainly don't need any more!

april fool wrote:
So the protesters have now been evicted, WHAT NOW!!! maybe turn it into a lunchtime park for all the people that eat out of paper bags, instead of walking round the streets of Bradford eating which i find quite disgusting. It could even be named "GREGGS PARK"

The site would be put to better use as allotments to grow much needed food for people now that we are in an economic Depression and many are being made destitute by the wicked Tories.

Sooner these Occupy tramps are out of every town and city the better.

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

Silsdenman wrote:
Ordinarily I don't support this kind of action but in this case I fully support these protesters. It is an absoute disgrace and for the council to grumble that the protesters are costing the council money to deal with people who support the city is also a disgrace. Who gets that money by the way, greedy lawyers methinks.

I have to disagree. Ordinarily I DO support this kind of action but in this case I do not support these protesters! I've never heard of a pro-Capitalist demonstration before, it's completely nuts! We don't need a new shopping mall, no one I know wants one. We have plenty of shops as it is, and we certainly don't need any more!

We might have plenty of shops, but they are either border up or are pound shops, charity shops, mobile phone shops , but not any quality shops seen in other city's.
Bradford needs the shopping centre and quick not two years down the line but now.
Bradford is on a life support machine and the batteries are running out.

“We were never here to break the law, so we will move peacefully on to the Urban Garden"

But in moving to the Urban Garden they are breaking the law as it is Council owned, which means they are trespassing in the same manner as Gypsy's!

Not only that, the cost to evict will have to be met from public funds, which is a ludicrous if they want to maintain public support let alone increase it!

Andee wrote:

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

Silsdenman wrote:
Ordinarily I don't support this kind of action but in this case I fully support these protesters. It is an absoute disgrace and for the council to grumble that the protesters are costing the council money to deal with people who support the city is also a disgrace. Who gets that money by the way, greedy lawyers methinks.

I have to disagree. Ordinarily I DO support this kind of action but in this case I do not support these protesters! I've never heard of a pro-Capitalist demonstration before, it's completely nuts! We don't need a new shopping mall, no one I know wants one. We have plenty of shops as it is, and we certainly don't need any more!

We might have plenty of shops, but they are either border up or are pound shops, charity shops, mobile phone shops , but not any quality shops seen in other city's.
Bradford needs the shopping centre and quick not two years down the line but now.
Bradford is on a life support machine and the batteries are running out.

What about the two Forster Retail Parks? What about TESCO, ALDI, Morrisons, John St. Market, etc, not to mention the plethora of local stores in every area. There are LOADS of shops! I can get practically anything I want/need in Bradford, and anything out of the ordinary can easily be ordered via the internet, so what's the problem? Not to mention that there is barely enough money around to support the existing shops in any case. WE DO NOT NEED A NEW SHOPPING MALL !

Reality50 wrote:
Sooner these Occupy tramps are out of every town and city the better.

I think you're getting confused. These idiots are nothing to do with the real Occupy movement, which is a protest AGAINST the greed of Capitalism! This lot are actually IN FAVOUR of yet another Capitalist venture. They are just using the Occupy name, that's all.

Oh I did not realise that the term 'Occupy' had a copyright to it. Second if you check the Urban Gardens you will find that there are no Occupiers there. We left last night. Two reasons One because we have fulfilled part of our Campaign and that was to raise awareness. Two because we do not wish to impose any financial cost to the people of Bradford with regards to legal costs to remove us. Another point I find it rather distasteful the banding around of a community of people called 'Gypsies'. They also have legal rights and a right to their traditional way of life. Also to call us idiots is rather childish. Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work. We are about Bradford and if this upsets you then tough. Our campaign will continue and until you wish to take 'Occupy Westfield' group to court for using the term 'Occupy' the please stop complaining. Unlike your movement we have made serious 'Awareness' progress! Have a nice day and watch this space.

I would just leave them, and tell Westfield to come over and move their caravan. Maybe revisiting the site might make them realise what a mess they have made of the city, I bet no one from Westfield has been there in years.

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

Silsdenman wrote:
Ordinarily I don't support this kind of action but in this case I fully support these protesters. It is an absoute disgrace and for the council to grumble that the protesters are costing the council money to deal with people who support the city is also a disgrace. Who gets that money by the way, greedy lawyers methinks.

I have to disagree. Ordinarily I DO support this kind of action but in this case I do not support these protesters! I've never heard of a pro-Capitalist demonstration before, it's completely nuts! We don't need a new shopping mall, no one I know wants one. We have plenty of shops as it is, and we certainly don't need any more!

Whether either of us want a shopping centre or not doesn't really matter, I'd never use it anyway but the fact is that Westfield are procrastinating for years on end about this and will not make any decisions. If they are not going to build the thing it should be made into a proper decent, tidy, permanent, open space instead of making the city centre more of a shambles than it already is. These protesters are trying to give Westfield a kick up up their corporate backside.

Avro wrote:
“We were never here to break the law, so we will move peacefully on to the Urban Garden"

But in moving to the Urban Garden they are breaking the law as it is Council owned, which means they are trespassing in the same manner as Gypsy's!

Not only that, the cost to evict will have to be met from public funds, which is a ludicrous if they want to maintain public support let alone increase it!

I don't think they can be compared with Gypsy's (sic) although I think you mean travellers. This is being done as a protest and not as a "traditional way of life" (and that, Servius, is a different topic for discussion elsewhere).

Just to point out, Alias Yousaf, Of Chambers Solicitors (Respect Party) HQ for the by election.

Also if you look on the "Lets Elect George Galloway in the Bradford West by Election." Another name predominately on this page Adnan Awan (and not Adan Awan) is another respect party member. I am sure these guys promised no to cuts well if they decided to camp out the URBAN GARDEN, then we as taxpayers will be paying for the legal costs. So that goes against RESPECT policy and what was vociferous outlined around the election period. The council is already facing enormous challenges with the cuts they are facing and dont need extra money spent on evicting some numptys out, because this will have a knock on effect on some services down the line which may be held back or even cut to fund for the courtcase.

So it looks like a Respect party way of grabbing media attention.

Mr Jolly wrote:
Just to point out, Alias Yousaf, Of Chambers Solicitors (Respect Party) HQ for the by election.

Also if you look on the "Lets Elect George Galloway in the Bradford West by Election." Another name predominately on this page Adnan Awan (and not Adan Awan) is another respect party member. I am sure these guys promised no to cuts well if they decided to camp out the URBAN GARDEN, then we as taxpayers will be paying for the legal costs. So that goes against RESPECT policy and what was vociferous outlined around the election period. The council is already facing enormous challenges with the cuts they are facing and dont need extra money spent on evicting some numptys out, because this will have a knock on effect on some services down the line which may be held back or even cut to fund for the courtcase.

So it looks like a Respect party way of grabbing media attention.

I don't think Respect had been mentioned on this forum until you brought them up. You are making this more political than necessary. I don't give a monkeys about Respect but I don't think you should be against peaceful protest just because it might cost the council a few quid. There are plenty of other ways in which the council waste far more on a daily basis than they might do on this matter.

servius wrote:
Oh I did not realise that the term 'Occupy' had a copyright to it. Second if you check the Urban Gardens you will find that there are no Occupiers there. We left last night. Two reasons One because we have fulfilled part of our Campaign and that was to raise awareness. Two because we do not wish to impose any financial cost to the people of Bradford with regards to legal costs to remove us. Another point I find it rather distasteful the banding around of a community of people called 'Gypsies'. They also have legal rights and a right to their traditional way of life. Also to call us idiots is rather childish. Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work. We are about Bradford and if this upsets you then tough. Our campaign will continue and until you wish to take 'Occupy Westfield' group to court for using the term 'Occupy' the please stop complaining. Unlike your movement we have made serious 'Awareness' progress! Have a nice day and watch this space.

"Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work."

That is your misinformed assumption. Most anti-capitalists (including myself) resent the ongoing exploitation of the workers, and of the planet's resources, all in the name of greed, which leads to the wanton destruction of the environment, and at the expense of local economies/communitie
s, and which creates an unfair and unjust world with the wealth and resources being hoarded by a minority elite. The last thing we want or need is yet another shopping centre.

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

servius wrote:
Oh I did not realise that the term 'Occupy' had a copyright to it. Second if you check the Urban Gardens you will find that there are no Occupiers there. We left last night. Two reasons One because we have fulfilled part of our Campaign and that was to raise awareness. Two because we do not wish to impose any financial cost to the people of Bradford with regards to legal costs to remove us. Another point I find it rather distasteful the banding around of a community of people called 'Gypsies'. They also have legal rights and a right to their traditional way of life. Also to call us idiots is rather childish. Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work. We are about Bradford and if this upsets you then tough. Our campaign will continue and until you wish to take 'Occupy Westfield' group to court for using the term 'Occupy' the please stop complaining. Unlike your movement we have made serious 'Awareness' progress! Have a nice day and watch this space.

"Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work."

That is your misinformed assumption. Most anti-capitalists (including myself) resent the ongoing exploitation of the workers, and of the planet's resources, all in the name of greed, which leads to the wanton destruction of the environment, and at the expense of local economies/communitie

s, and which creates an unfair and unjust world with the wealth and resources being hoarded by a minority elite. The last thing we want or need is yet another shopping centre.

Or more spongers like you.

Albion. wrote:

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

servius wrote:
Oh I did not realise that the term 'Occupy' had a copyright to it. Second if you check the Urban Gardens you will find that there are no Occupiers there. We left last night. Two reasons One because we have fulfilled part of our Campaign and that was to raise awareness. Two because we do not wish to impose any financial cost to the people of Bradford with regards to legal costs to remove us. Another point I find it rather distasteful the banding around of a community of people called 'Gypsies'. They also have legal rights and a right to their traditional way of life. Also to call us idiots is rather childish. Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work. We are about Bradford and if this upsets you then tough. Our campaign will continue and until you wish to take 'Occupy Westfield' group to court for using the term 'Occupy' the please stop complaining. Unlike your movement we have made serious 'Awareness' progress! Have a nice day and watch this space.

"Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work."

That is your misinformed assumption. Most anti-capitalists (including myself) resent the ongoing exploitation of the workers, and of the planet's resources, all in the name of greed, which leads to the wanton destruction of the environment, and at the expense of local economies/communitie


s, and which creates an unfair and unjust world with the wealth and resources being hoarded by a minority elite. The last thing we want or need is yet another shopping centre.

Or more spongers like you.

Anything intelleigent to add? or just the usual childish insults?

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

Albion. wrote:

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:

servius wrote:
Oh I did not realise that the term 'Occupy' had a copyright to it. Second if you check the Urban Gardens you will find that there are no Occupiers there. We left last night. Two reasons One because we have fulfilled part of our Campaign and that was to raise awareness. Two because we do not wish to impose any financial cost to the people of Bradford with regards to legal costs to remove us. Another point I find it rather distasteful the banding around of a community of people called 'Gypsies'. They also have legal rights and a right to their traditional way of life. Also to call us idiots is rather childish. Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work. We are about Bradford and if this upsets you then tough. Our campaign will continue and until you wish to take 'Occupy Westfield' group to court for using the term 'Occupy' the please stop complaining. Unlike your movement we have made serious 'Awareness' progress! Have a nice day and watch this space.

"Most of the anti-capitalists are people who mainly are resentful of people who have done well financially through hard work."

That is your misinformed assumption. Most anti-capitalists (including myself) resent the ongoing exploitation of the workers, and of the planet's resources, all in the name of greed, which leads to the wanton destruction of the environment, and at the expense of local economies/communitie



s, and which creates an unfair and unjust world with the wealth and resources being hoarded by a minority elite. The last thing we want or need is yet another shopping centre.

Or more spongers like you.

Anything intelleigent to add? or just the usual childish insults?

"intelleigent"?