Administrators of crisis hit club hope for new solution

Odsal Stadium, home of the Bulls

Odsal Stadium, home of the Bulls

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Administrators battling to save Bradford Bulls from liquidation have been left disappointed after the only expression of interest in taking on the crisis-torn club has now been withdrawn.

The Telegraph & Argus reported yesterday how the rugby league club had finally admitted defeat over its bid to raise the funds needed to pay a huge tax bill. It was put into administration earlier this week with a deadline of ten working days given for a buyer to come forward to avoid liquidation.

Brendan Guilfoyle, who has been appointed joint administrator, told the T&A that he had taken a call from an interested party on Tuesday night. But yesterday he admitted that they were now back to square one.

He said: “I had an unsolicited expression of interest and then it was withdrawn. It’s disappointing, but we hope others will come forward.

“For the moment we are looking to stabilise things within the club, and then next week we may have to go knocking on a few doors.”

He said he was still hopeful that a solution could be found that would keep the club alive within the deadline and dismissed speculation that the Bulls would be able to finish the season as a new company even if the club goes into liquidation.

“This is a loss-making business,” he said. “As things currently stand, the club loses £100,000 a month.

“How is a supporters’ trust supposed to come up with that kind of money to take over the club straightaway?”

He reiterated that without a buyer coming forward by the end of next week, they did not have enough money in the bank to pay the players’ wages, a bill of around £260,000 a month. In addition the debts include a £250,000 VAT bill, and around £200,000 due in PAYE.

The boss of a catering firm which has been providing corporate hospitality at Odsal Stadium has also told the T&A that he is owed around £20,000 by the club for work which goes back to March. Trevor Landsdall, of County Caterers Special Events, said it had been continuing to provide pink champagne, canapes and a choice menu during home games and special dinners, but had insisted on being paid up front.

“We are still owed around £20,000 from earlier though,” he said. “It will hit us quite hard if we don’t get paid.

“We have had to stand staff wages and pay our suppliers.”

The company, which is based in Wakefield, has previously lost out when Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and Bradford City Football Club went into administration.

In addition the Bulls’ cheerleaders have not been paid. Robyn Morrison, who runs Panache, the cheerschool which trains the Bullettes, said the 12 girls had previously performed at five or six home games without pay before reluctantly deciding to take on an alternative paying job the day of the recent Wakefield Trinity clash.

“It’s not just about the money for us,” she said. “We’ve been helping to raise funds for the club and it would be devastating for the Bullettes if the club were to go into liquidation.”

Meanwhile the All Party Parliamentary Rugby League Group yesterday pledged its support.

Chairman of the Parliamentary Group, Leeds North West MP Greg Mulholland, said: “This is a sad day. We urge all involved to find a way for Bradford to continue its proud history as a top-flight club.

“Members of the Parliamentary Rugby League Group are fans of the game as well as club representatives in Parliament and we have a singular remit – ‘to support the sport of rugby league football’. The Group's offer of support to the club, the RFL and Bradford City Council remains open.”

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8:25am Thu 28 Jun 12

oddshapedballs says...

I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison
I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison oddshapedballs
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8:31am Thu 28 Jun 12

birkybull says...

I remember when the Bulls Cheerleaders were fans. They did it every game for the love of it. I knew a few personally. Then they all got the boot to make way for prof dancers.
The Club has too many back room staff that are on development in schools etc. YOu only have to take a look into the club shop. What once brought in £1million plus per season has been reduced to a pittance because the quality of the goods on sale are utter tripe.
I remember when the Bulls Cheerleaders were fans. They did it every game for the love of it. I knew a few personally. Then they all got the boot to make way for prof dancers. The Club has too many back room staff that are on development in schools etc. YOu only have to take a look into the club shop. What once brought in £1million plus per season has been reduced to a pittance because the quality of the goods on sale are utter tripe. birkybull
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8:37am Thu 28 Jun 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.
This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it. Thee Voice of Reason
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8:41am Thu 28 Jun 12

bantamcougar says...

oddshapedballs wrote:
I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison
Ken Morrison was a friend of my late father inlaw he said he would never put money into sport, in his words " if I did it for one it would never end, every sports club in Bradford would want something so no"
[quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison[/p][/quote]Ken Morrison was a friend of my late father inlaw he said he would never put money into sport, in his words " if I did it for one it would never end, every sports club in Bradford would want something so no" bantamcougar
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8:43am Thu 28 Jun 12

Correctness says...

birkybull wrote:
I remember when the Bulls Cheerleaders were fans. They did it every game for the love of it. I knew a few personally. Then they all got the boot to make way for prof dancers. The Club has too many back room staff that are on development in schools etc. YOu only have to take a look into the club shop. What once brought in £1million plus per season has been reduced to a pittance because the quality of the goods on sale are utter tripe.
I remember when the players used to play for next to nothing. The world has changed and it would appear that a lot of 'people' at Odsal have taken advantage of this. Looking at the picture with this article I don't think it will encourage any investment although I am sure it would not even encourage travellers to move in, it looks more like a Shanty Town.
[quote][p][bold]birkybull[/bold] wrote: I remember when the Bulls Cheerleaders were fans. They did it every game for the love of it. I knew a few personally. Then they all got the boot to make way for prof dancers. The Club has too many back room staff that are on development in schools etc. YOu only have to take a look into the club shop. What once brought in £1million plus per season has been reduced to a pittance because the quality of the goods on sale are utter tripe.[/p][/quote]I remember when the players used to play for next to nothing. The world has changed and it would appear that a lot of 'people' at Odsal have taken advantage of this. Looking at the picture with this article I don't think it will encourage any investment although I am sure it would not even encourage travellers to move in, it looks more like a Shanty Town. Correctness
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8:59am Thu 28 Jun 12

haterugbysometimes says...

As for the comment re Ken Morrison, he won't put money into sport cos he's a tight s*d end of and he would rather line his own pockets than save a legacy of Bradford up yours then Ken; back to Asda for moi for my shopping. I am not surprised the expression of interest has withdrawn as I have kept saying the club has not been totally honest re the mess it is in and well it will take more than a few hundred grand to save the club and ensure it's long term survival I think we all have to accept that Bulls will be history next week
As for the comment re Ken Morrison, he won't put money into sport cos he's a tight s*d end of and he would rather line his own pockets than save a legacy of Bradford up yours then Ken; back to Asda for moi for my shopping. I am not surprised the expression of interest has withdrawn as I have kept saying the club has not been totally honest re the mess it is in and well it will take more than a few hundred grand to save the club and ensure it's long term survival I think we all have to accept that Bulls will be history next week haterugbysometimes
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9:31am Thu 28 Jun 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

I am sure Ken is gutted not to get your business :-p Why should Ken and JT put money in ? Its THEIR money and will spend it as they see fit, Would you put into a sporting club you have no interest in and thats losing 100k a month ? No thought not.
I am sure Ken is gutted not to get your business :-p Why should Ken and JT put money in ? Its THEIR money and will spend it as they see fit, Would you put into a sporting club you have no interest in and thats losing 100k a month ? No thought not. scandanavian's love child52
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9:46am Thu 28 Jun 12

Laney1989 says...

I see you are blaming KM & JT for not putting their own money in to the club?!
They will NEVER put money in to a sporting club in Bradford, if that's their choice so be it. You can't blame them for your own downfall.
I see you are blaming KM & JT for not putting their own money in to the club?! They will NEVER put money in to a sporting club in Bradford, if that's their choice so be it. You can't blame them for your own downfall. Laney1989
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9:50am Thu 28 Jun 12

Avro says...

Hardly surprising that there are no takers.
Business people will only put money where there is profit to be made and a minimal risk of loss.
The club has no assets, makes no profit and has generated a £1.7million of debt, which even if cleared would quickly start to accrue again.

I don't see a cat in hells chance of the club being saved out of saving it for saving sake, and the bigger picture shows that the ground currently has little else going for it.

If at least the ground had a regular income from such as stock cars or speedway, then at least it would have had other income other than the odd event such as the monster truck/firework bash.
Hardly surprising that there are no takers. Business people will only put money where there is profit to be made and a minimal risk of loss. The club has no assets, makes no profit and has generated a £1.7million of debt, which even if cleared would quickly start to accrue again. I don't see a cat in hells chance of the club being saved out of saving it for saving sake, and the bigger picture shows that the ground currently has little else going for it. If at least the ground had a regular income from such as stock cars or speedway, then at least it would have had other income other than the odd event such as the monster truck/firework bash. Avro
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10:04am Thu 28 Jun 12

Laney1989 says...

I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop? Laney1989
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10:18am Thu 28 Jun 12

murphyslaw says...

haterugbysometimes wrote:
As for the comment re Ken Morrison, he won't put money into sport cos he's a tight s*d end of and he would rather line his own pockets than save a legacy of Bradford up yours then Ken; back to Asda for moi for my shopping. I am not surprised the expression of interest has withdrawn as I have kept saying the club has not been totally honest re the mess it is in and well it will take more than a few hundred grand to save the club and ensure it's long term survival I think we all have to accept that Bulls will be history next week
Ken Morrison did not make his money investing in businesses like the Bulls. Far from being a tight s*d he's a shrewd business man. On another tack why on earth have the T&A chosen to show that picture? The place is dilapidated I know but there are many other views that do it more justice. Shame on you T&A for that.
[quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: As for the comment re Ken Morrison, he won't put money into sport cos he's a tight s*d end of and he would rather line his own pockets than save a legacy of Bradford up yours then Ken; back to Asda for moi for my shopping. I am not surprised the expression of interest has withdrawn as I have kept saying the club has not been totally honest re the mess it is in and well it will take more than a few hundred grand to save the club and ensure it's long term survival I think we all have to accept that Bulls will be history next week[/p][/quote]Ken Morrison did not make his money investing in businesses like the Bulls. Far from being a tight s*d he's a shrewd business man. On another tack why on earth have the T&A chosen to show that picture? The place is dilapidated I know but there are many other views that do it more justice. Shame on you T&A for that. murphyslaw
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10:18am Thu 28 Jun 12

cragender says...

Hope a buyer comes in soon, can't imagine Sunday afternoon without pink champagne and canapes
Hope a buyer comes in soon, can't imagine Sunday afternoon without pink champagne and canapes cragender
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10:19am Thu 28 Jun 12

Mumby was the best says...

Why did Caisley take over if he knew he could not get the backing? If so he must be the worse lawyer ever. He f***** the club with the Harris affair now this!!
Surely this is all part of his master plan and all will be revealed in the last minutes as he saves the club!!, I sincerely hope so
Why did Caisley take over if he knew he could not get the backing? If so he must be the worse lawyer ever. He f***** the club with the Harris affair now this!! Surely this is all part of his master plan and all will be revealed in the last minutes as he saves the club!!, I sincerely hope so Mumby was the best
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10:20am Thu 28 Jun 12

baildonbullette says...

Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
[quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic! baildonbullette
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10:55am Thu 28 Jun 12

BD16 says...

Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?
Wasn't it because the floodlight pylons were too close to the track? That and the fact that only a handfull of people went to watch it at Odsal or later when they went back to the Shay.

Good luck to all Bulls fans. I hope somebody comes in and saves the club for you.
[quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]Wasn't it because the floodlight pylons were too close to the track? That and the fact that only a handfull of people went to watch it at Odsal or later when they went back to the Shay. Good luck to all Bulls fans. I hope somebody comes in and saves the club for you. BD16
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10:59am Thu 28 Jun 12

Wots up says...

I keep reading in the T & A that we have a monthly salary bill of £260k. This report now states it is the players salary bill that is £260k. Now if the Super League salary cap is £1.65m + National Insurance (i.e. add 13%). That would be £156k per month. That means we have a further monthly wage bill of £100k. Where exactly does that go? Is it on admin? Should it really cost £100k a month in wages to run a SL club? KM and JCT could man a number of supermarkets/garages on that wage bill. Can the T & A investigate this instead of quoting similar dribble everyday from players and ex players.
I keep reading in the T & A that we have a monthly salary bill of £260k. This report now states it is the players salary bill that is £260k. Now if the Super League salary cap is £1.65m + National Insurance (i.e. add 13%). That would be £156k per month. That means we have a further monthly wage bill of £100k. Where exactly does that go? Is it on admin? Should it really cost £100k a month in wages to run a SL club? KM and JCT could man a number of supermarkets/garages on that wage bill. Can the T & A investigate this instead of quoting similar dribble everyday from players and ex players. Wots up
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11:00am Thu 28 Jun 12

Avro says...

murphyslaw wrote:
haterugbysometimes wrote: As for the comment re Ken Morrison, he won't put money into sport cos he's a tight s*d end of and he would rather line his own pockets than save a legacy of Bradford up yours then Ken; back to Asda for moi for my shopping. I am not surprised the expression of interest has withdrawn as I have kept saying the club has not been totally honest re the mess it is in and well it will take more than a few hundred grand to save the club and ensure it's long term survival I think we all have to accept that Bulls will be history next week
Ken Morrison did not make his money investing in businesses like the Bulls. Far from being a tight s*d he's a shrewd business man. On another tack why on earth have the T&A chosen to show that picture? The place is dilapidated I know but there are many other views that do it more justice. Shame on you T&A for that.
Ken is indeed a shrewd business man, and is currently very happy in his new found love of livestock farming and enjoying his retirement.

I somehow doubt he would ever consider jumping into what resembles a bottomless money pit!
[quote][p][bold]murphyslaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: As for the comment re Ken Morrison, he won't put money into sport cos he's a tight s*d end of and he would rather line his own pockets than save a legacy of Bradford up yours then Ken; back to Asda for moi for my shopping. I am not surprised the expression of interest has withdrawn as I have kept saying the club has not been totally honest re the mess it is in and well it will take more than a few hundred grand to save the club and ensure it's long term survival I think we all have to accept that Bulls will be history next week[/p][/quote]Ken Morrison did not make his money investing in businesses like the Bulls. Far from being a tight s*d he's a shrewd business man. On another tack why on earth have the T&A chosen to show that picture? The place is dilapidated I know but there are many other views that do it more justice. Shame on you T&A for that.[/p][/quote]Ken is indeed a shrewd business man, and is currently very happy in his new found love of livestock farming and enjoying his retirement. I somehow doubt he would ever consider jumping into what resembles a bottomless money pit! Avro
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11:01am Thu 28 Jun 12

pweibj67 says...

..... and now the end is near and so i face the final hooter! knock ons .. ive had a few and disallowed try's too many to mention .....


sad face
..... and now the end is near and so i face the final hooter! knock ons .. ive had a few and disallowed try's too many to mention ..... sad face pweibj67
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11:02am Thu 28 Jun 12

pweibj67 says...

mean while in the T&A

"Council writes off £415,000 in unpaid parking fines"


cracking!!
mean while in the T&A "Council writes off £415,000 in unpaid parking fines" cracking!! pweibj67
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11:16am Thu 28 Jun 12

haterugbysometimes says...

Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour
Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour haterugbysometimes
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11:18am Thu 28 Jun 12

wobbley-bob says...

baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
[quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting. wobbley-bob
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11:33am Thu 28 Jun 12

raisemeup says...

pweibj67 wrote:
mean while in the T&A

"Council writes off £415,000 in unpaid parking fines"


cracking!!
Yep! all we need to do is ask for the list of debtors re: unpaid fines, send a few of the lads round to collect, and then charge the Council debt collection fees, and negotiate to keep the collected cash...then we would have at least £600k...

Ah well back to the Happy Sauce is it!!!!!

Unfortunately we are becoming like the government:

"Knowing the price of everything, but the value of Nothing" Sad day for the "BULLS" but it will be a sadder day for all our young supporters who will no longer get to see the joys of competitive Rugby and the advantages of being taught the Skills and Health benefits through the Foundations efforts in the community and through all local schools,...it is indeed a sad day!
[quote][p][bold]pweibj67[/bold] wrote: mean while in the T&A "Council writes off £415,000 in unpaid parking fines" cracking!![/p][/quote]Yep! all we need to do is ask for the list of debtors re: unpaid fines, send a few of the lads round to collect, and then charge the Council debt collection fees, and negotiate to keep the collected cash...then we would have at least £600k... Ah well back to the Happy Sauce is it!!!!! Unfortunately we are becoming like the government: "Knowing the price of everything, but the value of Nothing" Sad day for the "BULLS" but it will be a sadder day for all our young supporters who will no longer get to see the joys of competitive Rugby and the advantages of being taught the Skills and Health benefits through the Foundations efforts in the community and through all local schools,...it is indeed a sad day! raisemeup
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11:50am Thu 28 Jun 12

cj says...

i'm sure it's already been said, but didn't mr caisley say he had people willing to put money into the club as long as hood went??? where are these backers then??egg on ones face then caisley. wouldn't trust that man as far as i could throw him! i know hood was obviously withholding info as to just how bad things were, so both as bad as each other.
i'm sure it's already been said, but didn't mr caisley say he had people willing to put money into the club as long as hood went??? where are these backers then??egg on ones face then caisley. wouldn't trust that man as far as i could throw him! i know hood was obviously withholding info as to just how bad things were, so both as bad as each other. cj
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11:51am Thu 28 Jun 12

raisemeup says...

birkybull wrote:
I remember when the Bulls Cheerleaders were fans. They did it every game for the love of it. I knew a few personally. Then they all got the boot to make way for prof dancers.
The Club has too many back room staff that are on development in schools etc. YOu only have to take a look into the club shop. What once brought in £1million plus per season has been reduced to a pittance because the quality of the goods on sale are utter tripe.
You are quite wrong about the number of backroom staff Bb.

The staff is cut to the bone.
You are also wrong about the Foundation as it is run as a charity and therefore is not a drain on the club's resources, just the opposite in fact the charity enhances our club, and serves as a massive benefit to the youngsters (they used to be the life blood of the sport,remember> small adults who make a lot of noice!) in the city.

You are right about the first cheerleaders of the club. But times evolve and I have seen the merit in both. The new "Bullettes" have put the Bulls on the map by winning countless competitions.

You are right about the shop takings though and lack of staff, not too many as you say, has caused this problem, plus a lot more goes through the internet than previously.

So there you have it my friend.

Hope that answers a lot of the questions you and others might have.

Regards

And let's hope it's not farewell!
[quote][p][bold]birkybull[/bold] wrote: I remember when the Bulls Cheerleaders were fans. They did it every game for the love of it. I knew a few personally. Then they all got the boot to make way for prof dancers. The Club has too many back room staff that are on development in schools etc. YOu only have to take a look into the club shop. What once brought in £1million plus per season has been reduced to a pittance because the quality of the goods on sale are utter tripe.[/p][/quote]You are quite wrong about the number of backroom staff Bb. The staff is cut to the bone. You are also wrong about the Foundation as it is run as a charity and therefore is not a drain on the club's resources, just the opposite in fact the charity enhances our club, and serves as a massive benefit to the youngsters (they used to be the life blood of the sport,remember> small adults who make a lot of noice!) in the city. You are right about the first cheerleaders of the club. But times evolve and I have seen the merit in both. The new "Bullettes" have put the Bulls on the map by winning countless competitions. You are right about the shop takings though and lack of staff, not too many as you say, has caused this problem, plus a lot more goes through the internet than previously. So there you have it my friend. Hope that answers a lot of the questions you and others might have. Regards And let's hope it's not farewell! raisemeup
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11:53am Thu 28 Jun 12

baildonbullette says...

wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal.
Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?
[quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal. Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days? baildonbullette
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12:03pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

This whole scenario shows yet again that the Super League licensing system is biased and flawed.Bradford's accounts were clearly not checked by the RFL and when you see how a well run club like Halfax time and again have been excluded from the SL party it shows how corrupt and unfair the system is.Bring back relegation and relegate the Bulls.In fact get rid of Harlequins too and bring Halifax and Featherstone into the Super League.I have a lot of sympathy with Bulls fans but not the club itself.It has been run like a dodgy corner shop for years and it is the fans who suffer.It's time to relegate the Bulls if they survive liquidation and give SL and RL some fairness and credibility.
This whole scenario shows yet again that the Super League licensing system is biased and flawed.Bradford's accounts were clearly not checked by the RFL and when you see how a well run club like Halfax time and again have been excluded from the SL party it shows how corrupt and unfair the system is.Bring back relegation and relegate the Bulls.In fact get rid of Harlequins too and bring Halifax and Featherstone into the Super League.I have a lot of sympathy with Bulls fans but not the club itself.It has been run like a dodgy corner shop for years and it is the fans who suffer.It's time to relegate the Bulls if they survive liquidation and give SL and RL some fairness and credibility. Reality50
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12:12pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

Also it amazes me how fans can't understand why the club makes a big loss.Look,go-ahead clubs the past 10-15 years have built new space age stadiums that serve the community and are in use 24/7 365.Odsal is a dump and a decaying relic from the past.You need hotels and conference centres ,a modern merchandise megastore,and loads more to provide income streams when the matches are not on.Bulls sat on their laurels as other clubs looked ahead.The city council need to take blame too as Bradford folk have been let down with empty talk over the years about new stadiums.I personally think the council should hold talks with Bulls and Bradford Park Avenue-who are now just 2 divisions away from professional football-about building and sharing a ground if-and it is a big if-Bulls buy some time over this financial mess.
Also it amazes me how fans can't understand why the club makes a big loss.Look,go-ahead clubs the past 10-15 years have built new space age stadiums that serve the community and are in use 24/7 365.Odsal is a dump and a decaying relic from the past.You need hotels and conference centres ,a modern merchandise megastore,and loads more to provide income streams when the matches are not on.Bulls sat on their laurels as other clubs looked ahead.The city council need to take blame too as Bradford folk have been let down with empty talk over the years about new stadiums.I personally think the council should hold talks with Bulls and Bradford Park Avenue-who are now just 2 divisions away from professional football-about building and sharing a ground if-and it is a big if-Bulls buy some time over this financial mess. Reality50
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12:18pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Shelfrhino says...

Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore. Shelfrhino
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12:23pm Thu 28 Jun 12

justjustice says...

Well who wants to buy a lousy team which cannot balance it's sheets, from a city which cannot run itself?

Maybe we should completely dismantle Bradford council and merge with Leeds. It's how the government sees Leeds & Bradford anyway since we are so close together. They see Leeds doing well and assume Bradford is as well, cos why shouldnt it, it's right next door.
Well who wants to buy a lousy team which cannot balance it's sheets, from a city which cannot run itself? Maybe we should completely dismantle Bradford council and merge with Leeds. It's how the government sees Leeds & Bradford anyway since we are so close together. They see Leeds doing well and assume Bradford is as well, cos why shouldnt it, it's right next door. justjustice
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12:29pm Thu 28 Jun 12

bartsbull says...

I would like to know what is Caisley involvement in this debaticle

First he gets Hood & Bennet to resign on the back of promises that he as the backers

Which we all new were not there or there would have been news that he is now in charge

This seems to me the biggest con going to oust a chairman that was running a club whom had stated he had also got parties interested

Here we are today will a possible interested party no news from Caisely and Co in fact Caisley has been so quiet since he made the statement that he wanted the Bulls to be here for the next twenty years and beyond

Here is a challenge Mr Caisely come out of the woodwork and make a statement regarding the club as the old saying goes put up or shut up
I would like to know what is Caisley involvement in this debaticle First he gets Hood & Bennet to resign on the back of promises that he as the backers Which we all new were not there or there would have been news that he is now in charge This seems to me the biggest con going to oust a chairman that was running a club whom had stated he had also got parties interested Here we are today will a possible interested party no news from Caisely and Co in fact Caisley has been so quiet since he made the statement that he wanted the Bulls to be here for the next twenty years and beyond Here is a challenge Mr Caisely come out of the woodwork and make a statement regarding the club as the old saying goes put up or shut up bartsbull
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12:40pm Thu 28 Jun 12

SellingEnglandByThePound says...

haterugbysometimes wrote:
Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour
One of the reasons why he wont invest is down to The R.F.L/The Super League as a whole and the way it is run. In his words,"It's bent"! He loves rugby and the Bulls but wont invest in a system that he feels is blatantly crooked!
[quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour[/p][/quote]One of the reasons why he wont invest is down to The R.F.L/The Super League as a whole and the way it is run. In his words,"It's bent"! He loves rugby and the Bulls but wont invest in a system that he feels is blatantly crooked! SellingEnglandByThePound
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12:45pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Bone_idle18 says...

bartsbull wrote:
I would like to know what is Caisley involvement in this debaticle

First he gets Hood & Bennet to resign on the back of promises that he as the backers

Which we all new were not there or there would have been news that he is now in charge

This seems to me the biggest con going to oust a chairman that was running a club whom had stated he had also got parties interested

Here we are today will a possible interested party no news from Caisely and Co in fact Caisley has been so quiet since he made the statement that he wanted the Bulls to be here for the next twenty years and beyond

Here is a challenge Mr Caisely come out of the woodwork and make a statement regarding the club as the old saying goes put up or shut up
I agree, he got in on false pretences with the full intention of going into administration!
[quote][p][bold]bartsbull[/bold] wrote: I would like to know what is Caisley involvement in this debaticle First he gets Hood & Bennet to resign on the back of promises that he as the backers Which we all new were not there or there would have been news that he is now in charge This seems to me the biggest con going to oust a chairman that was running a club whom had stated he had also got parties interested Here we are today will a possible interested party no news from Caisely and Co in fact Caisley has been so quiet since he made the statement that he wanted the Bulls to be here for the next twenty years and beyond Here is a challenge Mr Caisely come out of the woodwork and make a statement regarding the club as the old saying goes put up or shut up[/p][/quote]I agree, he got in on false pretences with the full intention of going into administration! Bone_idle18
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12:47pm Thu 28 Jun 12

otleybull says...

I wonder where we'd be today if Morrisons hadn't blocked the Tesco stadium a few years ago?
I wonder where we'd be today if Morrisons hadn't blocked the Tesco stadium a few years ago? otleybull
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12:49pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!!
Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!! Steam Pigs
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12:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

blue marlin says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
bartsbull wrote: I would like to know what is Caisley involvement in this debaticle First he gets Hood & Bennet to resign on the back of promises that he as the backers Which we all new were not there or there would have been news that he is now in charge This seems to me the biggest con going to oust a chairman that was running a club whom had stated he had also got parties interested Here we are today will a possible interested party no news from Caisely and Co in fact Caisley has been so quiet since he made the statement that he wanted the Bulls to be here for the next twenty years and beyond Here is a challenge Mr Caisely come out of the woodwork and make a statement regarding the club as the old saying goes put up or shut up
I agree, he got in on false pretences with the full intention of going into administration!
just a guess but whats the betting that over the hill about 8 hours before the dead line will appear a man on a white charger to save the day.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bartsbull[/bold] wrote: I would like to know what is Caisley involvement in this debaticle First he gets Hood & Bennet to resign on the back of promises that he as the backers Which we all new were not there or there would have been news that he is now in charge This seems to me the biggest con going to oust a chairman that was running a club whom had stated he had also got parties interested Here we are today will a possible interested party no news from Caisely and Co in fact Caisley has been so quiet since he made the statement that he wanted the Bulls to be here for the next twenty years and beyond Here is a challenge Mr Caisely come out of the woodwork and make a statement regarding the club as the old saying goes put up or shut up[/p][/quote]I agree, he got in on false pretences with the full intention of going into administration![/p][/quote]just a guess but whats the betting that over the hill [which hill i dont know as the only way out of bradford is up hill] about 8 hours before the dead line will appear a man on a white charger to save the day. blue marlin
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12:57pm Thu 28 Jun 12

barbarian mike says...

Reality50 wrote:
This whole scenario shows yet again that the Super League licensing system is biased and flawed.Bradford's accounts were clearly not checked by the RFL and when you see how a well run club like Halfax time and again have been excluded from the SL party it shows how corrupt and unfair the system is.Bring back relegation and relegate the Bulls.In fact get rid of Harlequins too and bring Halifax and Featherstone into the Super League.I have a lot of sympathy with Bulls fans but not the club itself.It has been run like a dodgy corner shop for years and it is the fans who suffer.It's time to relegate the Bulls if they survive liquidation and give SL and RL some fairness and credibility.
I agree its a crap situation and bulls deserve to be punished but reckon you have gone a bit over the top there. Bulls have given loafs to super league and yea, are in the crap at the moment, but do they really deserve to be treated in the way you suggest?Wakey went through and recovered, don't see you having a pop at them, and im sure Widnes have gone into admin twice in the past, but i guess we disregard tht bbecause they haven't won anything aand are not the bulls.
As for Broncos, sky owners won't allow them to be pulled from the league as they want some sort of representative from London in the league for their money, so they will be ever present despite not giving anything to the league at all. I have it on good authority that the Broncos have had a crowd as low as 300 this season. But we can overlook that eh! A joke.
Lastly, many other super league teams are also struggling massively and it may not be too long before the likes of Cas, Salford, wakey again, r also in a similar situation. Do you suggest getting rid of them too, and btinging other teams in? Teams coming in such as fax etc would struggle equally as bad as there is no money in super league, and the fanbase just isn't there for such clubs. Getting rid of teams, relegation etc, is not what is needed. There needs to be a more viable solution or this will continue to happen to clubs down the line. To be honest, the way the sport is in this country, I don't see a solution and worry about the state of the sport and what is to come!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: This whole scenario shows yet again that the Super League licensing system is biased and flawed.Bradford's accounts were clearly not checked by the RFL and when you see how a well run club like Halfax time and again have been excluded from the SL party it shows how corrupt and unfair the system is.Bring back relegation and relegate the Bulls.In fact get rid of Harlequins too and bring Halifax and Featherstone into the Super League.I have a lot of sympathy with Bulls fans but not the club itself.It has been run like a dodgy corner shop for years and it is the fans who suffer.It's time to relegate the Bulls if they survive liquidation and give SL and RL some fairness and credibility.[/p][/quote]I agree its a crap situation and bulls deserve to be punished but reckon you have gone a bit over the top there. Bulls have given loafs to super league and yea, are in the crap at the moment, but do they really deserve to be treated in the way you suggest?Wakey went through and recovered, don't see you having a pop at them, and im sure Widnes have gone into admin twice in the past, but i guess we disregard tht bbecause they haven't won anything aand are not the bulls. As for Broncos, sky owners won't allow them to be pulled from the league as they want some sort of representative from London in the league for their money, so they will be ever present despite not giving anything to the league at all. I have it on good authority that the Broncos have had a crowd as low as 300 this season. But we can overlook that eh! A joke. Lastly, many other super league teams are also struggling massively and it may not be too long before the likes of Cas, Salford, wakey again, r also in a similar situation. Do you suggest getting rid of them too, and btinging other teams in? Teams coming in such as fax etc would struggle equally as bad as there is no money in super league, and the fanbase just isn't there for such clubs. Getting rid of teams, relegation etc, is not what is needed. There needs to be a more viable solution or this will continue to happen to clubs down the line. To be honest, the way the sport is in this country, I don't see a solution and worry about the state of the sport and what is to come! barbarian mike
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12:58pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Steam Pigs wrote:
Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!!
Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs.

Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock.

The league will continue regardless.

As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.
[quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!![/p][/quote]Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs. Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock. The league will continue regardless. As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:00pm Thu 28 Jun 12

TirNaNog says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Oh the irony!
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Oh the irony! TirNaNog
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1:03pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

Steam Pigs says...
12:49pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!! Yes Steam Pigs that is true and that is because the game and the rules are bent and as said earlier "Crooked". I don't support Fax but a 15 years ago they were a big club who lost most their support due to having no promotion relegation and a bent licensing procedure.I take it you support Bulls? Well in other sports like Union or football the rules for going into admin are - 10 or even -25 points and worse in the Glasgow Rangers situation.As there is no relegation in SL then that punishment means nothing so let's see if Bulls get relegated or bust will you be laughing then/ If one club goes bust then SL has to replace that club and Halifax would almost certainly be that club unless they chose an expansion club which I doubt.
Steam Pigs says... 12:49pm Thu 28 Jun 12 Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!! Yes Steam Pigs that is true and that is because the game and the rules are bent and as said earlier "Crooked". I don't support Fax but a 15 years ago they were a big club who lost most their support due to having no promotion relegation and a bent licensing procedure.I take it you support Bulls? Well in other sports like Union or football the rules for going into admin are - 10 or even -25 points and worse in the Glasgow Rangers situation.As there is no relegation in SL then that punishment means nothing so let's see if Bulls get relegated or bust will you be laughing then/ If one club goes bust then SL has to replace that club and Halifax would almost certainly be that club unless they chose an expansion club which I doubt. Reality50
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1:05pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Avro says...

wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
Its nothing kore than scandalous and utterly shameful.

Full of promises which leave the city worse than what it had, and now the club about to vanish too!
[quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]Its nothing kore than scandalous and utterly shameful. Full of promises which leave the city worse than what it had, and now the club about to vanish too! Avro
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1:11pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

Salford and Wakefield will prosper and that is because both clubs have ambition.Salford play in a brand new stadium with great catchment and Sale Sharks move in next season too to add extra income.Wakey last week finally got permission for their Newmarket stadium so a bright future for them.Cas have a new stadium in the planning while Odsal goes to rack and ruin.Apart from matchday the Bulls make very little income and that is why they need a new stadium with all that comes with it and income streams.Odsal will never be a money spinner.I agree on Harlequins and they offer nothing to the game.
Salford and Wakefield will prosper and that is because both clubs have ambition.Salford play in a brand new stadium with great catchment and Sale Sharks move in next season too to add extra income.Wakey last week finally got permission for their Newmarket stadium so a bright future for them.Cas have a new stadium in the planning while Odsal goes to rack and ruin.Apart from matchday the Bulls make very little income and that is why they need a new stadium with all that comes with it and income streams.Odsal will never be a money spinner.I agree on Harlequins and they offer nothing to the game. Reality50
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1:21pm Thu 28 Jun 12

haterugbysometimes says...

SellingEnglandByTheP
ound
wrote:
haterugbysometimes wrote: Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour
One of the reasons why he wont invest is down to The R.F.L/The Super League as a whole and the way it is run. In his words,"It's bent"! He loves rugby and the Bulls but wont invest in a system that he feels is blatantly crooked!
yep crocked but what isn't crocked these days!!
[quote][p][bold]SellingEnglandByTheP ound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour[/p][/quote]One of the reasons why he wont invest is down to The R.F.L/The Super League as a whole and the way it is run. In his words,"It's bent"! He loves rugby and the Bulls but wont invest in a system that he feels is blatantly crooked![/p][/quote]yep crocked but what isn't crocked these days!! haterugbysometimes
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1:24pm Thu 28 Jun 12

haterugbysometimes says...

haterugbysometimes wrote:
SellingEnglandByTheP ound wrote:
haterugbysometimes wrote: Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour
One of the reasons why he wont invest is down to The R.F.L/The Super League as a whole and the way it is run. In his words,"It's bent"! He loves rugby and the Bulls but wont invest in a system that he feels is blatantly crooked!
yep crocked but what isn't crocked these days!!
what happened there crooked it should have said apologies for my crappy spelling
[quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SellingEnglandByTheP ound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: Scandanavian's lovechild52 thanks for answering your own question on my behalf Ken wouldn't even invest with sponsorship when they were a successful and viable club and he is renonwed for being a tight s*d that's why he has so much personal wealth, as well as having a successful business. Many of us know him and JT could save the club and if you keep up to date with the posts I have repeatedly said they and other investors won't because it will take a massive amount not only to save the Bulls but to sustain them for the future. As for the comment about shopping at Asda it was said tongue in cheek err a joke, but whoops forgetting you obviously have a zilch sense of humour[/p][/quote]One of the reasons why he wont invest is down to The R.F.L/The Super League as a whole and the way it is run. In his words,"It's bent"! He loves rugby and the Bulls but wont invest in a system that he feels is blatantly crooked![/p][/quote]yep crocked but what isn't crocked these days!![/p][/quote]what happened there crooked it should have said apologies for my crappy spelling haterugbysometimes
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1:36pm Thu 28 Jun 12

theoutsider says...

bantamcougar wrote:
oddshapedballs wrote:
I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison
Ken Morrison was a friend of my late father inlaw he said he would never put money into sport, in his words " if I did it for one it would never end, every sports club in Bradford would want something so no"
One day ( and I hope its a good while for him yet ) Uncle Ken is going to that great supermarket in the sky ( as we all surely do ). But when he's gone just get ready for the statue in the the wa'tter park. Morrisons have sucked the living daylights out of Bratfud down the years and offered very little in return apart from low paid jobs. Everywhere has been blighted by them, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers in all the boroughs have been wiped off the map and in some cases the very fabric of communities has changed for ever. Morrison's name should be the vanguard Bradford as far as the community is concerned - along the lines of the way things were with Walkers Steel in Blackburn but it is far from it. So when the call comes from the Local Village Idioits in City Hall the statue to be raised in his honour I and many others will be there to make sure it is'nt going to happen. But thanks Ken for now't!
[quote][p][bold]bantamcougar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison[/p][/quote]Ken Morrison was a friend of my late father inlaw he said he would never put money into sport, in his words " if I did it for one it would never end, every sports club in Bradford would want something so no"[/p][/quote]One day ( and I hope its a good while for him yet ) Uncle Ken is going to that great supermarket in the sky ( as we all surely do ). But when he's gone just get ready for the statue in the the wa'tter park. Morrisons have sucked the living daylights out of Bratfud down the years and offered very little in return apart from low paid jobs. Everywhere has been blighted by them, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers in all the boroughs have been wiped off the map and in some cases the very fabric of communities has changed for ever. Morrison's name should be the vanguard Bradford as far as the community is concerned - along the lines of the way things were with Walkers Steel in Blackburn but it is far from it. So when the call comes from the Local Village Idioits in City Hall the statue to be raised in his honour I and many others will be there to make sure it is'nt going to happen. But thanks Ken for now't! theoutsider
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1:39pm Thu 28 Jun 12

MeccaBingo1 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.
No, not at all (I said Thursday next week).

On another note I'm sick of hearing about the cheerleaders, its such a minor thing why has it been raised so many times? I USED to give my labour on match days for sweet FA and never expected or received any payment as many others did and still do. By the look of the wage bill more people will have to do the same in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.[/p][/quote]No, not at all (I said Thursday next week). On another note I'm sick of hearing about the cheerleaders, its such a minor thing why has it been raised so many times? I USED to give my labour on match days for sweet FA and never expected or received any payment as many others did and still do. By the look of the wage bill more people will have to do the same in the future. MeccaBingo1
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1:55pm Thu 28 Jun 12

theoutsider says...

wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
The World Finals were held in 1985 and 1990. Speedway was sold a dummy by the 'developers' and the local council at the end of the 1997 season regarding the Superdome project. Although it has to go on record that Bradford Council did support the speedway in its time ultimately thousands of West Yorkshire speedway fans have been let down for 15 years and more by the lack of a venue. Its incredulous that the Bradford went from being 'the hub' of world speedway to where we are now. A whole generation and more of Bratfudians simply have no idea what the sport is ?. The history at Odsal is one of speedways richests in terms of characters and yes the track of the 80's and 90's was world renowned.

But history and tradition and giving the real people of the area what they want matters to those in Council bogged down as they are in their social intergration project and the economic mire.

I went over to Scunthorpe earlier this week to watch speedway. Now here is a council who cares about the things that matter. So much so that they ( the Council ) donated to the land to the Speedway for a peppercorn rent and a fantastic facility has grown up there. Basic facilities yes but a great little race track. I say to the Council give me a piece of land on the edge of the city ( maybe up by the M62 ) and I will bring speedway back to Bradford. But there needs to be the will to make it happen and those supposedly running Bradford dont have the will or the wherewithall and that pretty clear to see.
[quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]The World Finals were held in 1985 and 1990. Speedway was sold a dummy by the 'developers' and the local council at the end of the 1997 season regarding the Superdome project. Although it has to go on record that Bradford Council did support the speedway in its time ultimately thousands of West Yorkshire speedway fans have been let down for 15 years and more by the lack of a venue. Its incredulous that the Bradford went from being 'the hub' of world speedway to where we are now. A whole generation and more of Bratfudians simply have no idea what the sport is ?. The history at Odsal is one of speedways richests in terms of characters and yes the track of the 80's and 90's was world renowned. But history and tradition and giving the real people of the area what they want matters to those in Council bogged down as they are in their social intergration project and the economic mire. I went over to Scunthorpe earlier this week to watch speedway. Now here is a council who cares about the things that matter. So much so that they ( the Council ) donated to the land to the Speedway for a peppercorn rent and a fantastic facility has grown up there. Basic facilities yes but a great little race track. I say to the Council give me a piece of land on the edge of the city ( maybe up by the M62 ) and I will bring speedway back to Bradford. But there needs to be the will to make it happen and those supposedly running Bradford dont have the will or the wherewithall and that pretty clear to see. theoutsider
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1:56pm Thu 28 Jun 12

MeccaBingo1 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.
Forgot to ask, how is the job hunting going? ;-) or do you still rely on tax payers hand outs!!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.[/p][/quote]Forgot to ask, how is the job hunting going? ;-) or do you still rely on tax payers hand outs!! MeccaBingo1
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1:57pm Thu 28 Jun 12

jagzter says...

Didn't salford just put out a plea for fresh investment because they have lost income streams from the facilities they had at the old stadium and sharing with Sale is to try shore up that shortfall so all is far from well there and if Sale ever lose their RFU backing as a North West outpost like London in the south is if for league then will that club survive, plus headingly is a disgrace at the beginning of the season barely a blade of grass football sharing is far a better option. Cas don't have a new ground it is in the realms as the Odsal sporting village, they are a tiny town without a large potential fan base where is the opportnity for profit from a business point of view. Wakey have done well since administration but they got lucky with the backer and not having to pay for their corporate stand at belle vue, there new stadium is great news for them but can they sustain it is the question not worked so well for Salford so far.
Didn't salford just put out a plea for fresh investment because they have lost income streams from the facilities they had at the old stadium and sharing with Sale is to try shore up that shortfall so all is far from well there and if Sale ever lose their RFU backing as a North West outpost like London in the south is if for league then will that club survive, plus headingly is a disgrace at the beginning of the season barely a blade of grass football sharing is far a better option. Cas don't have a new ground it is in the realms as the Odsal sporting village, they are a tiny town without a large potential fan base where is the opportnity for profit from a business point of view. Wakey have done well since administration but they got lucky with the backer and not having to pay for their corporate stand at belle vue, there new stadium is great news for them but can they sustain it is the question not worked so well for Salford so far. jagzter
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2:07pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.
Forgot to ask, how is the job hunting going? ;-) or do you still rely on tax payers hand outs!!
Haha poor comeback my friend, your clearly getting me mixed up with someone else.
You stated the deals in the table and this story says there has been a pull out. So lets not deflect from your master predictions and stay on topic.
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.[/p][/quote]Forgot to ask, how is the job hunting going? ;-) or do you still rely on tax payers hand outs!![/p][/quote]Haha poor comeback my friend, your clearly getting me mixed up with someone else. You stated the deals in the table and this story says there has been a pull out. So lets not deflect from your master predictions and stay on topic. Thee Voice of Reason
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2:16pm Thu 28 Jun 12

MeccaBingo1 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.
Forgot to ask, how is the job hunting going? ;-) or do you still rely on tax payers hand outs!!
Haha poor comeback my friend, your clearly getting me mixed up with someone else.
You stated the deals in the table and this story says there has been a pull out. So lets not deflect from your master predictions and stay on topic.
Ok, roll on end of next week voice of so called reason.

I have a decent track record when it comes to predicting things concerning the Bulls!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.[/p][/quote]Forgot to ask, how is the job hunting going? ;-) or do you still rely on tax payers hand outs!![/p][/quote]Haha poor comeback my friend, your clearly getting me mixed up with someone else. You stated the deals in the table and this story says there has been a pull out. So lets not deflect from your master predictions and stay on topic.[/p][/quote]Ok, roll on end of next week voice of so called reason. I have a decent track record when it comes to predicting things concerning the Bulls! MeccaBingo1
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2:26pm Thu 28 Jun 12

salford red says...

its a sad day for rugby league that a great club like bradford are in so much trouble. as a salford fan i travel regular to bradford a friend of mine lives in shipley as is a bulls fan. take any salford, cas, wakey, broncos/harlquinns,w
idnes. any of these could be in trouble. salford are looking for investment mr wilkinson as been great but it is time to move on. the owner of the land salford reds are on.he is one of the richest men in uk. so possible there ?? there are others looking at investment.and the owner of sale sharks is a business man with interests in football also so. possible there to ? we are in a new stadium and it will take time to adjust. hopefully we will survive. but there are no gaurantees
its a sad day for rugby league that a great club like bradford are in so much trouble. as a salford fan i travel regular to bradford a friend of mine lives in shipley as is a bulls fan. take any salford, cas, wakey, broncos/harlquinns,w idnes. any of these could be in trouble. salford are looking for investment mr wilkinson as been great but it is time to move on. the owner of the land salford reds are on.he is one of the richest men in uk. so possible there ?? there are others looking at investment.and the owner of sale sharks is a business man with interests in football also so. possible there to ? we are in a new stadium and it will take time to adjust. hopefully we will survive. but there are no gaurantees salford red
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2:29pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote:
Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!!
Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs.

Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock.

The league will continue regardless.

As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.
stick to wendyball and those losers at VP ;-) you know nothing of rugby and the RFL
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!![/p][/quote]Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs. Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock. The league will continue regardless. As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.[/p][/quote]stick to wendyball and those losers at VP ;-) you know nothing of rugby and the RFL Steam Pigs
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2:31pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

Reality50 wrote:
Steam Pigs says...
12:49pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!! Yes Steam Pigs that is true and that is because the game and the rules are bent and as said earlier "Crooked". I don't support Fax but a 15 years ago they were a big club who lost most their support due to having no promotion relegation and a bent licensing procedure.I take it you support Bulls? Well in other sports like Union or football the rules for going into admin are - 10 or even -25 points and worse in the Glasgow Rangers situation.As there is no relegation in SL then that punishment means nothing so let's see if Bulls get relegated or bust will you be laughing then/ If one club goes bust then SL has to replace that club and Halifax would almost certainly be that club unless they chose an expansion club which I doubt.
another one with no idea about RL and the RFL

how much would you like to bet on the Fax being in SL this year or next???? come on loud mouths put yer money wer your gobs are.......!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Steam Pigs says... 12:49pm Thu 28 Jun 12 Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!! Yes Steam Pigs that is true and that is because the game and the rules are bent and as said earlier "Crooked". I don't support Fax but a 15 years ago they were a big club who lost most their support due to having no promotion relegation and a bent licensing procedure.I take it you support Bulls? Well in other sports like Union or football the rules for going into admin are - 10 or even -25 points and worse in the Glasgow Rangers situation.As there is no relegation in SL then that punishment means nothing so let's see if Bulls get relegated or bust will you be laughing then/ If one club goes bust then SL has to replace that club and Halifax would almost certainly be that club unless they chose an expansion club which I doubt.[/p][/quote]another one with no idea about RL and the RFL how much would you like to bet on the Fax being in SL this year or next???? come on loud mouths put yer money wer your gobs are.......! Steam Pigs
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2:31pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Laney1989 says...

Best comment throughout this whole process - "Headingley is a disgrace"

I'd get your own house in order before you start labelling Headingley a disgrace.

Very funny indeed :-)
Best comment throughout this whole process - "Headingley is a disgrace" I'd get your own house in order before you start labelling Headingley a disgrace. Very funny indeed :-) Laney1989
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2:33pm Thu 28 Jun 12

theoutsider says...

baildonbullette wrote:
wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal.
Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?
Gary went on to ride for Poole, Eastbourne, Peterborough and Arena Essex over a 10 year period when he left Bradford. He eventually returned 'home' to Middlesborough - Redcar where he leads the Bears in the second tier of League Speedway now incredibly 43 years young Havvy sustained serious career threatening injuries earlier this season and will at the very least not ride again this season. He was a young man when he came to Odsal a real out and out racer and kind of filled the void when we lost Kenny Carter in terrible off track circumstances. Havvy was a bit wild on and off track which led to a years ban from the sport in 1989, but he returned became World Champion in 1993 and matured a person and performer. Ostensibly he was Bradford Speedway in the late 80's - 90's to the close and on balance amongst many of the top English talent we stabled at Odsal in that time; the late Simon Wigg, Kelvin Tatum, Joe Screen and Mark Loram; Havvy was stand out racer.
[quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal. Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?[/p][/quote]Gary went on to ride for Poole, Eastbourne, Peterborough and Arena Essex over a 10 year period when he left Bradford. He eventually returned 'home' to Middlesborough - Redcar where he leads the Bears in the second tier of League Speedway now incredibly 43 years young Havvy sustained serious career threatening injuries earlier this season and will at the very least not ride again this season. He was a young man when he came to Odsal a real out and out racer and kind of filled the void when we lost Kenny Carter in terrible off track circumstances. Havvy was a bit wild on and off track which led to a years ban from the sport in 1989, but he returned became World Champion in 1993 and matured a person and performer. Ostensibly he was Bradford Speedway in the late 80's - 90's to the close and on balance amongst many of the top English talent we stabled at Odsal in that time; the late Simon Wigg, Kelvin Tatum, Joe Screen and Mark Loram; Havvy was stand out racer. theoutsider
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2:35pm Thu 28 Jun 12

baildonbullette says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Sorry but I'd rather stick pins in my eyes! If the worst happens I will go along and give Dudley Hill and Keighley some support as it all helps.
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I'd rather stick pins in my eyes! If the worst happens I will go along and give Dudley Hill and Keighley some support as it all helps. baildonbullette
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2:35pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Laney1989 says...

Steam Pigs wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote:
Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!!
Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs.

Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock.

The league will continue regardless.

As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.
stick to wendyball and those losers at VP ;-) you know nothing of rugby and the RFL
Losers at VP?!
I'd have a little rethink about that one fella.
Those "losers" you speak of might just be housing your little Rugby team very soon.
But hey, VP isn’t good enough for Bradford Bulls supporters.
They’d rather see their team go under than support them at a nice, modern stadium.
[quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!![/p][/quote]Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs. Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock. The league will continue regardless. As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.[/p][/quote]stick to wendyball and those losers at VP ;-) you know nothing of rugby and the RFL[/p][/quote]Losers at VP?! I'd have a little rethink about that one fella. Those "losers" you speak of might just be housing your little Rugby team very soon. But hey, VP isn’t good enough for Bradford Bulls supporters. They’d rather see their team go under than support them at a nice, modern stadium. Laney1989
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2:35pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp......
THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams...
FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL
for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL Steam Pigs
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2:39pm Thu 28 Jun 12

jagzter says...

Selective quoting there Headingley is a disgrace at the beginning of the season when there is not a blade of grass on the pitch you are better sharing with football I put. You could work for panorama take a tiny snippet and change the context.
Ask how many Rhinos supporters are happy with how the pitch is for the first couple of months of super league?
The early televised games this year the pitch was just brown mud no green.
Selective quoting there Headingley is a disgrace at the beginning of the season when there is not a blade of grass on the pitch you are better sharing with football I put. You could work for panorama take a tiny snippet and change the context. Ask how many Rhinos supporters are happy with how the pitch is for the first couple of months of super league? The early televised games this year the pitch was just brown mud no green. jagzter
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2:39pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

Laney1989 wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote:
Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!!
Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs.

Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock.

The league will continue regardless.

As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.
stick to wendyball and those losers at VP ;-) you know nothing of rugby and the RFL
Losers at VP?!
I'd have a little rethink about that one fella.
Those "losers" you speak of might just be housing your little Rugby team very soon.
But hey, VP isn’t good enough for Bradford Bulls supporters.
They’d rather see their team go under than support them at a nice, modern stadium.
the losers at VP are the players and management, not the fans - city are my footy team. And lets be clear City will gain from having the Bulls down there and of course where did I say I'd rather see the team go under????? calm down dear as Mr Winner says
[quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: Halifax in SL....... that has right cheered me up.... keep dreaming fax fans, one day you may realise that the RFL don't want you at the top table!!!![/p][/quote]Your not really in a position to start barking out stuff like this to other clubs. Just like Glasgow Rangers, we are too big and you can't survive without us, you Bulls fans are going to be in for a shock. The league will continue regardless. As for the RFL don't want Fax at the top table, they will probably be looking at Bradford and think we don't want any more liabilities like this at our top table either.[/p][/quote]stick to wendyball and those losers at VP ;-) you know nothing of rugby and the RFL[/p][/quote]Losers at VP?! I'd have a little rethink about that one fella. Those "losers" you speak of might just be housing your little Rugby team very soon. But hey, VP isn’t good enough for Bradford Bulls supporters. They’d rather see their team go under than support them at a nice, modern stadium.[/p][/quote]the losers at VP are the players and management, not the fans - city are my footy team. And lets be clear City will gain from having the Bulls down there and of course where did I say I'd rather see the team go under????? calm down dear as Mr Winner says Steam Pigs
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2:41pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

Even if Fax aren't in SL this time next year I guarantee Bulls won't be either as they won't exist if no backer is found.I think a few Bulls fans are a bit blase about this and believe a fairy godmother will appear.Sorry to say but I can't see her on the horizon.Best you can hope for is playing out the season over at VP then once the fixtures are fullfilled then you will liquidate.
Even if Fax aren't in SL this time next year I guarantee Bulls won't be either as they won't exist if no backer is found.I think a few Bulls fans are a bit blase about this and believe a fairy godmother will appear.Sorry to say but I can't see her on the horizon.Best you can hope for is playing out the season over at VP then once the fixtures are fullfilled then you will liquidate. Reality50
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2:43pm Thu 28 Jun 12

JAtkinson says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
And where is Shelf?

2 miles from Odsal, in Halifax with a Bradford phone number and you support...

L**ds.

Def no glory there so can't slate you for that.
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]And where is Shelf? 2 miles from Odsal, in Halifax with a Bradford phone number and you support... L**ds. Def no glory there so can't slate you for that. JAtkinson
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2:45pm Thu 28 Jun 12

theoutsider says...

theoutsider wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal.
Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?
Gary went on to ride for Poole, Eastbourne, Peterborough and Arena Essex over a 10 year period when he left Bradford. He eventually returned 'home' to Middlesborough - Redcar where he leads the Bears in the second tier of League Speedway now incredibly 43 years young Havvy sustained serious career threatening injuries earlier this season and will at the very least not ride again this season. He was a young man when he came to Odsal a real out and out racer and kind of filled the void when we lost Kenny Carter in terrible off track circumstances. Havvy was a bit wild on and off track which led to a years ban from the sport in 1989, but he returned became World Champion in 1993 and matured a person and performer. Ostensibly he was Bradford Speedway in the late 80's - 90's to the close and on balance amongst many of the top English talent we stabled at Odsal in that time; the late Simon Wigg, Kelvin Tatum, Joe Screen and Mark Loram; Havvy was stand out racer.
Just writing that and remembering the great times at the Speedway as a kid in the 70's and then in the 80-90's era really underlines to me where this has all gone pear shaped. Really who thought just for one momemt that Odsal was viable staging a measily 14 yes 14 Rugby games a season ! that means the gates open 14 times only in a year its just complete and utter lunancy.

So I say this to Bradford Council get the buy the ground back off the Rugby League - dont care what if it costs we want the thing back in local ownership and get lets get the SPEEDWAY BACK ON THE BILL ! FOR BRADFORD.
[quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal. Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?[/p][/quote]Gary went on to ride for Poole, Eastbourne, Peterborough and Arena Essex over a 10 year period when he left Bradford. He eventually returned 'home' to Middlesborough - Redcar where he leads the Bears in the second tier of League Speedway now incredibly 43 years young Havvy sustained serious career threatening injuries earlier this season and will at the very least not ride again this season. He was a young man when he came to Odsal a real out and out racer and kind of filled the void when we lost Kenny Carter in terrible off track circumstances. Havvy was a bit wild on and off track which led to a years ban from the sport in 1989, but he returned became World Champion in 1993 and matured a person and performer. Ostensibly he was Bradford Speedway in the late 80's - 90's to the close and on balance amongst many of the top English talent we stabled at Odsal in that time; the late Simon Wigg, Kelvin Tatum, Joe Screen and Mark Loram; Havvy was stand out racer.[/p][/quote]Just writing that and remembering the great times at the Speedway as a kid in the 70's and then in the 80-90's era really underlines to me where this has all gone pear shaped. Really who thought just for one momemt that Odsal was viable staging a measily 14 yes 14 Rugby games a season ! that means the gates open 14 times only in a year its just complete and utter lunancy. So I say this to Bradford Council get the buy the ground back off the Rugby League - dont care what if it costs we want the thing back in local ownership and get lets get the SPEEDWAY BACK ON THE BILL ! FOR BRADFORD. theoutsider
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2:48pm Thu 28 Jun 12

wobbley-bob says...

baildonbullette wrote:
wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal.
Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?
No worries....I'm related to an ex Coventry, Dukes & Sheffield rider (big clue) :)
Havvy had a really bad smash in March, which left him in a mess. :(
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[quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal. Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?[/p][/quote]No worries....I'm related to an ex Coventry, Dukes & Sheffield rider (big clue) :) Havvy had a really bad smash in March, which left him in a mess. :( http://www.gazetteli ve.co.uk/north-east- sport/motorsport-new s/redcar-bears/2012/ 06/13/gary-havelock- back-in-the-pit-for- redcar-bears-84229-3 1173363/#ixzz1xgdRz6 zX wobbley-bob
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2:49pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Laney1989 says...

jagzter wrote:
Selective quoting there Headingley is a disgrace at the beginning of the season when there is not a blade of grass on the pitch you are better sharing with football I put. You could work for panorama take a tiny snippet and change the context.
Ask how many Rhinos supporters are happy with how the pitch is for the first couple of months of super league?
The early televised games this year the pitch was just brown mud no green.
Talk about nit-picking yourself, out of everything that's wrong with the stadium you've picked the pitch.
What do you expect when it doesn't get any rest what so ever?
We've got those RU clowns running up and down it during our off season.
Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about it.
Is it playable? Yes.
No problem as far as I can.
Instead of pointless attacking against Headingley Stadium I’d advise taking a long hard look at Odsal, then we will have a chat.

FAO Steam Pig - "The losers are the players and management"

That's an interesting statement to make, especially as it's the off season.
[quote][p][bold]jagzter[/bold] wrote: Selective quoting there Headingley is a disgrace at the beginning of the season when there is not a blade of grass on the pitch you are better sharing with football I put. You could work for panorama take a tiny snippet and change the context. Ask how many Rhinos supporters are happy with how the pitch is for the first couple of months of super league? The early televised games this year the pitch was just brown mud no green.[/p][/quote]Talk about nit-picking yourself, out of everything that's wrong with the stadium you've picked the pitch. What do you expect when it doesn't get any rest what so ever? We've got those RU clowns running up and down it during our off season. Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about it. Is it playable? Yes. No problem as far as I can. Instead of pointless attacking against Headingley Stadium I’d advise taking a long hard look at Odsal, then we will have a chat. FAO Steam Pig - "The losers are the players and management" That's an interesting statement to make, especially as it's the off season. Laney1989
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2:53pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Avro says...

The thing is that Speedway and Stock Car racing brought people into Bradford from all over, which is something that Bradford is now in deperate need of, and also gives kids and young adults something else to turn their attention to!

How on earth both got booted god only knows, but I bet that the Bulls now wish they had the ground income from such events!
The thing is that Speedway and Stock Car racing brought people into Bradford from all over, which is something that Bradford is now in deperate need of, and also gives kids and young adults something else to turn their attention to! How on earth both got booted god only knows, but I bet that the Bulls now wish they had the ground income from such events! Avro
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2:55pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Steam Pigs wrote:
for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL
It's become quite clear the Bulls are no where ready for the SL.

Also do you honestly believe the SL will go forward with an odd number of teams, lets have a swig of whatever your drinking please.
[quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL[/p][/quote]It's become quite clear the Bulls are no where ready for the SL. Also do you honestly believe the SL will go forward with an odd number of teams, lets have a swig of whatever your drinking please. Thee Voice of Reason
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3:06pm Thu 28 Jun 12

jagzter says...

My point was that's whats going to happen to Salfords pitch now they have to share it with union and that you are better off sharing with football if you get the opportunity.
How was it attacking headingley? Were you going to go report me for bullying to say the state of the pitch from Union ground sharing was shocking?
I know what Odsal is like been going there since before 1989.
There has been ongoing talk about renovating Odsal since that time from falling through to supermarkets objecting to Prescott objecting all have failed.
Having played on Headingley I know how lush the surface used to be and yes the whole ground needs modernising, but with the bumper crowds Leeds get and the other revenue from union even they don't seem to have the funds to upgrade the stadium.
Hence back to my point mergers are going to be the inevitable end of all this as happened in Sydney, Huddersfield have the ground but not the crowds, Bradford have the crowds not the ground. Wakefield will have the ground but not the crowds cas no ground and not big enough crowds etc
My point was that's whats going to happen to Salfords pitch now they have to share it with union and that you are better off sharing with football if you get the opportunity. How was it attacking headingley? Were you going to go report me for bullying to say the state of the pitch from Union ground sharing was shocking? I know what Odsal is like been going there since before 1989. There has been ongoing talk about renovating Odsal since that time from falling through to supermarkets objecting to Prescott objecting all have failed. Having played on Headingley I know how lush the surface used to be and yes the whole ground needs modernising, but with the bumper crowds Leeds get and the other revenue from union even they don't seem to have the funds to upgrade the stadium. Hence back to my point mergers are going to be the inevitable end of all this as happened in Sydney, Huddersfield have the ground but not the crowds, Bradford have the crowds not the ground. Wakefield will have the ground but not the crowds cas no ground and not big enough crowds etc jagzter
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3:13pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote:
for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL
It's become quite clear the Bulls are no where ready for the SL.

Also do you honestly believe the SL will go forward with an odd number of teams, lets have a swig of whatever your drinking please.
Why does it need an even number???????????? go check what the NRL did a few years ago...... I'll give you a clue "bye". as I said stick to footy - you like most on here have not got a clue about Rugby the game or behind the scenes.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL[/p][/quote]It's become quite clear the Bulls are no where ready for the SL. Also do you honestly believe the SL will go forward with an odd number of teams, lets have a swig of whatever your drinking please.[/p][/quote]Why does it need an even number???????????? go check what the NRL did a few years ago...... I'll give you a clue "bye". as I said stick to footy - you like most on here have not got a clue about Rugby the game or behind the scenes. Steam Pigs
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3:17pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

Reality50 wrote:
Even if Fax aren't in SL this time next year I guarantee Bulls won't be either as they won't exist if no backer is found.I think a few Bulls fans are a bit blase about this and believe a fairy godmother will appear.Sorry to say but I can't see her on the horizon.Best you can hope for is playing out the season over at VP then once the fixtures are fullfilled then you will liquidate.
you seem 100% sure of the bulls demise - in one form or another the Bradford Northern/Bulls will continue - the form and position is to be decided.
Only the other SL teams can kick us out of the SL and how many will vote for that?? especially when the Bulls have one of the larger away followings..... thats all ££££££ to all the clubs that are struggling..... some people really should engage whats between their ears before hitting enter!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Even if Fax aren't in SL this time next year I guarantee Bulls won't be either as they won't exist if no backer is found.I think a few Bulls fans are a bit blase about this and believe a fairy godmother will appear.Sorry to say but I can't see her on the horizon.Best you can hope for is playing out the season over at VP then once the fixtures are fullfilled then you will liquidate.[/p][/quote]you seem 100% sure of the bulls demise - in one form or another the Bradford Northern/Bulls will continue - the form and position is to be decided. Only the other SL teams can kick us out of the SL and how many will vote for that?? especially when the Bulls have one of the larger away followings..... thats all ££££££ to all the clubs that are struggling..... some people really should engage whats between their ears before hitting enter!!!!!! Steam Pigs
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3:46pm Thu 28 Jun 12

haterugbysometimes says...

theoutsider wrote:
bantamcougar wrote:
oddshapedballs wrote: I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison
Ken Morrison was a friend of my late father inlaw he said he would never put money into sport, in his words " if I did it for one it would never end, every sports club in Bradford would want something so no"
One day ( and I hope its a good while for him yet ) Uncle Ken is going to that great supermarket in the sky ( as we all surely do ). But when he's gone just get ready for the statue in the the wa'tter park. Morrisons have sucked the living daylights out of Bratfud down the years and offered very little in return apart from low paid jobs. Everywhere has been blighted by them, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers in all the boroughs have been wiped off the map and in some cases the very fabric of communities has changed for ever. Morrison's name should be the vanguard Bradford as far as the community is concerned - along the lines of the way things were with Walkers Steel in Blackburn but it is far from it. So when the call comes from the Local Village Idioits in City Hall the statue to be raised in his honour I and many others will be there to make sure it is'nt going to happen. But thanks Ken for now't!
Agree 100% with what you said and as I have said the only reason why he won't is because he is a tight fisted old s*d
[quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantamcougar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote: I for one pledgeto buy from jct if he digs us out of this mireor even buy a can of beans from mr morrison[/p][/quote]Ken Morrison was a friend of my late father inlaw he said he would never put money into sport, in his words " if I did it for one it would never end, every sports club in Bradford would want something so no"[/p][/quote]One day ( and I hope its a good while for him yet ) Uncle Ken is going to that great supermarket in the sky ( as we all surely do ). But when he's gone just get ready for the statue in the the wa'tter park. Morrisons have sucked the living daylights out of Bratfud down the years and offered very little in return apart from low paid jobs. Everywhere has been blighted by them, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers in all the boroughs have been wiped off the map and in some cases the very fabric of communities has changed for ever. Morrison's name should be the vanguard Bradford as far as the community is concerned - along the lines of the way things were with Walkers Steel in Blackburn but it is far from it. So when the call comes from the Local Village Idioits in City Hall the statue to be raised in his honour I and many others will be there to make sure it is'nt going to happen. But thanks Ken for now't![/p][/quote]Agree 100% with what you said and as I have said the only reason why he won't is because he is a tight fisted old s*d haterugbysometimes
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3:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Steam Pigs says...

our problems, the Bulls, is not a mess made by Morrison or Tordoff as much as I would love one of them to be our saviour - they won't and they shouldn't - its their money they do what they please with it - same as me with mine!
our problems, the Bulls, is not a mess made by Morrison or Tordoff as much as I would love one of them to be our saviour - they won't and they shouldn't - its their money they do what they please with it - same as me with mine! Steam Pigs
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4:54pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Steam Pigs wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote: for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL
It's become quite clear the Bulls are no where ready for the SL. Also do you honestly believe the SL will go forward with an odd number of teams, lets have a swig of whatever your drinking please.
Why does it need an even number???????????? go check what the NRL did a few years ago...... I'll give you a clue "bye". as I said stick to footy - you like most on here have not got a clue about Rugby the game or behind the scenes.
So who sits out of the Magic weekend with an odd number of teams?
[quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: for those fresh from the VP kop - Rugby League has very little resemblence to football except that the top divison teams run the top league - SL is run by SL clubs same with the Premiership - so all this garbage about 25 point deduction sis carp...... THe RFL have already stated that the bulls even in liquidation can carry on their remaining fixtures.... how does that fit in with Fax getting a SL spot???? if Bulls drop out of SL, it will revert to 13 teams... FAX ARE NO WHERE NEAR READY FOR SL[/p][/quote]It's become quite clear the Bulls are no where ready for the SL. Also do you honestly believe the SL will go forward with an odd number of teams, lets have a swig of whatever your drinking please.[/p][/quote]Why does it need an even number???????????? go check what the NRL did a few years ago...... I'll give you a clue "bye". as I said stick to footy - you like most on here have not got a clue about Rugby the game or behind the scenes.[/p][/quote]So who sits out of the Magic weekend with an odd number of teams? Thee Voice of Reason
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5:08pm Thu 28 Jun 12

bovine says...

Interesting to see speedway fans posting on this thread. In the 70's the Bradford speedway team was called Bradford Northern. They went to the wall too.
Interesting to see speedway fans posting on this thread. In the 70's the Bradford speedway team was called Bradford Northern. They went to the wall too. bovine
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5:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Bullcity says...

Lots of talk but once again no real progress on the media front reporting & as an ordinary fan that is all I have to keep me informed.
A ground share with the Avenue is the most sensible thing I have seen in todays comments.
Come on council --call in some investors --you have the power to do this --get the team some cash , move them from Odsal to valey Parade short term until the new ground is ready with a speedway track & conference centre that brings in some extra income--& what about some area with it that support some small business units .
Come on my City where are you ?
Lots of talk but once again no real progress on the media front reporting & as an ordinary fan that is all I have to keep me informed. A ground share with the Avenue is the most sensible thing I have seen in todays comments. Come on council --call in some investors --you have the power to do this --get the team some cash , move them from Odsal to valey Parade short term until the new ground is ready with a speedway track & conference centre that brings in some extra income--& what about some area with it that support some small business units . Come on my City where are you ? Bullcity
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6:12pm Thu 28 Jun 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

Slow down your traveling too fast ;-) the club cant sustain what they have never mind new stadium. Why should council find investors ? How many people live in bradford ? 10k go to rugby so not a lot of interest for the rest of the population.
Slow down your traveling too fast ;-) the club cant sustain what they have never mind new stadium. Why should council find investors ? How many people live in bradford ? 10k go to rugby so not a lot of interest for the rest of the population. scandanavian's love child52
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6:40pm Thu 28 Jun 12

need to know says...

chis caisleys silence is deafening only good thing to come out of it is that he will loose all his shares . all the x directors should be brought to book including caisley and his gang of 2006
chis caisleys silence is deafening only good thing to come out of it is that he will loose all his shares . all the x directors should be brought to book including caisley and his gang of 2006 need to know
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6:53pm Thu 28 Jun 12

The Insider at the Bulls says...

What all fans who pledged should be asking is what happened to their money? What I hear (and Ive no reason to doubt) from a very reliable source who was well placed to know what was happening, is that when NatWest removed the Buls O/D facility, and as per normal banking practice when they realised the Bulls couldnt meet their ongoing committments, any funds subsequently paid into this account were sent automatically to a "frozen" holding account at NatWest. As all the pledge money and cheques (other than the cash collected at the Leeds game - which I'm led to believe was taken and paid to the Revenue in actual cash !) were paid into this account by the Bulls, all NatWest did was collect it each day and put it to reduce the Bull's overdraft - so in essence all the pledges were doing was reducing the liability to the bank of the previous administration, and basically had no effect on the financial position, or did anything to help the club in any way. Is that what the fans were told???
What all fans who pledged should be asking is what happened to their money? What I hear (and Ive no reason to doubt) from a very reliable source who was well placed to know what was happening, is that when NatWest removed the Buls O/D facility, and as per normal banking practice when they realised the Bulls couldnt meet their ongoing committments, any funds subsequently paid into this account were sent automatically to a "frozen" holding account at NatWest. As all the pledge money and cheques (other than the cash collected at the Leeds game - which I'm led to believe was taken and paid to the Revenue in actual cash !) were paid into this account by the Bulls, all NatWest did was collect it each day and put it to reduce the Bull's overdraft - so in essence all the pledges were doing was reducing the liability to the bank of the previous administration, and basically had no effect on the financial position, or did anything to help the club in any way. Is that what the fans were told??? The Insider at the Bulls
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7:06pm Thu 28 Jun 12

BigFigure says...

Why is speedway seen as some sort of cash cow? Crowds at Odsal dwindled to around 1000 in the mid90's,even when the team was top of the league. And watching league racing on Sky you get the impression that racing is behind closed doors, there are so few spectators there
Why is speedway seen as some sort of cash cow? Crowds at Odsal dwindled to around 1000 in the mid90's,even when the team was top of the league. And watching league racing on Sky you get the impression that racing is behind closed doors, there are so few spectators there BigFigure
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7:45pm Thu 28 Jun 12

blue marlin says...

need to know wrote:
chis caisleys silence is deafening only good thing to come out of it is that he will loose all his shares . all the x directors should be brought to book including caisley and his gang of 2006
as i said before, a man on a white charger will ride up manchester road in the knick of time !!!!
[quote][p][bold]need to know[/bold] wrote: chis caisleys silence is deafening only good thing to come out of it is that he will loose all his shares . all the x directors should be brought to book including caisley and his gang of 2006[/p][/quote]as i said before, a man on a white charger will ride up manchester road in the knick of time !!!! blue marlin
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7:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

So SL clubs will decide where Bulls end up? Codswallop! The only people with any power are the bank manager and the tax man and to a lesser degree SKY who basically run SL anyway.As for Bulls away following it is on average far less than Wigan Saints Warrington,the 2 Humberside clubs Leeds and even Cas.Bulls aren't a big club anymore and are stuck in the past.Odsal isn't fit to host modern RL.
So SL clubs will decide where Bulls end up? Codswallop! The only people with any power are the bank manager and the tax man and to a lesser degree SKY who basically run SL anyway.As for Bulls away following it is on average far less than Wigan Saints Warrington,the 2 Humberside clubs Leeds and even Cas.Bulls aren't a big club anymore and are stuck in the past.Odsal isn't fit to host modern RL. Reality50
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7:55pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

I notice Mr Galloway is hardly making a fuss over Bulls plight and as well known public figure maybe he should but then again he only represents a certain cricket loving community so I suspect you won't get much help there either.
I notice Mr Galloway is hardly making a fuss over Bulls plight and as well known public figure maybe he should but then again he only represents a certain cricket loving community so I suspect you won't get much help there either. Reality50
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9:54pm Thu 28 Jun 12

baildonbullette says...

wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
wobbley-bob wrote:
baildonbullette wrote:
Laney1989 wrote:
I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal.
Why did that ever stop?
So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors.
It stands on where the pits used to be.
I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic!
Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;)
Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners.

Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof.....

Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.
My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal.
Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?
No worries....I'm related to an ex Coventry, Dukes & Sheffield rider (big clue) :)
Havvy had a really bad smash in March, which left him in a mess. :(
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That's awful to hear, I hope he is recovering well. I remember what happened to Kenny - really tragic, he was a good mate of a friend of ours, Mitch Shirra.
Gary kind of took over Kenny's mantle as a bit of a daredevil, but he was awesome to watch!
[quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baildonbullette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laney1989[/bold] wrote: I used to love going to watch the Speedway at Odsal. Why did that ever stop?[/p][/quote]So they could build the Coral stand for the corporate sponsors. It stands on where the pits used to be. I remember the Intercontinental Final in 1984 being held there and it was packed out, it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Really? The first speedway meeting held at Odsal since it ceased in 1975, was the World Final in 1985. Do you mean 1989? ;) Also it was good because it was one of the fastest tracks around, because of the banked corners. Speedway/stockcars left Odsal in '97 so that work could start on the new Superdome, with the promise they'd be back racing in 2000, under a sliding roof..... Like Wastefield, we're still waiting.[/p][/quote]My mistake it was the worlds in 1985. I love speedway having grown up with teams like Coventry Bees,Belle Vue Aces, Hull Vikings to name a few owing to a family connection to a rider and it was one of the best circuits at Odsal. Wonder what Gary Havelock's doing these days?[/p][/quote]No worries....I'm related to an ex Coventry, Dukes & Sheffield rider (big clue) :) Havvy had a really bad smash in March, which left him in a mess. :( http://www.gazetteli ve.co.uk/north-east- sport/motorsport-new s/redcar-bears/2012/ 06/13/gary-havelock- back-in-the-pit-for- redcar-bears-84229-3 1173363/#ixzz1xgdRz6 zX[/p][/quote]That's awful to hear, I hope he is recovering well. I remember what happened to Kenny - really tragic, he was a good mate of a friend of ours, Mitch Shirra. Gary kind of took over Kenny's mantle as a bit of a daredevil, but he was awesome to watch! baildonbullette
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9:58pm Thu 28 Jun 12

baildonbullette says...

bovine wrote:
Interesting to see speedway fans posting on this thread. In the 70's the Bradford speedway team was called Bradford Northern. They went to the wall too.
Yes, but they also came back as Bradford Dukes before moving to Halifax when the talk of a new super stadium was mooted and they were forced to move, if you remember!
[quote][p][bold]bovine[/bold] wrote: Interesting to see speedway fans posting on this thread. In the 70's the Bradford speedway team was called Bradford Northern. They went to the wall too.[/p][/quote]Yes, but they also came back as Bradford Dukes before moving to Halifax when the talk of a new super stadium was mooted and they were forced to move, if you remember! baildonbullette
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10:56pm Thu 28 Jun 12

baildonbullette says...

From these posts it's obvious how much the city of Bradford loves sport - rugby league,football, speedway and stockcar racing.
What is needed is an investor who has the vision and financial clout to unify all these sporting activities in a state of the art stadium which would encourage more families to get interested and bring added revenue through corporate sponsorship and tickets with incentives if supporters have interests in more than one sport.
From these posts it's obvious how much the city of Bradford loves sport - rugby league,football, speedway and stockcar racing. What is needed is an investor who has the vision and financial clout to unify all these sporting activities in a state of the art stadium which would encourage more families to get interested and bring added revenue through corporate sponsorship and tickets with incentives if supporters have interests in more than one sport. baildonbullette
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10:58pm Thu 28 Jun 12

hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came. hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull
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11:19pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Shelfrhino says...

hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.
I can feel the love all the way over here in Halifax.
Here's a thought, why don't you support Wakey? Or are you another glory fan with no glory to be a fan of anymore?

Loving how some of you deluded folk on here keep mentioning a knight on a white charger coming in at the last minute, that head in the sand fool Adey mentions this on RLfans, and here you are taking it all in like sheep.
Marching on together.
ps, Not very nice to wish me dead is it.
pps, The current world and Superleague champions are self financing. That's what really gets up your nose isn't it, go on, admit it, small club man.
[quote][p][bold]hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.[/p][/quote]I can feel the love all the way over here in Halifax. Here's a thought, why don't you support Wakey? Or are you another glory fan with no glory to be a fan of anymore? Loving how some of you deluded folk on here keep mentioning a knight on a white charger coming in at the last minute, that head in the sand fool Adey mentions this on RLfans, and here you are taking it all in like sheep. Marching on together. ps, Not very nice to wish me dead is it. pps, The current world and Superleague champions are self financing. That's what really gets up your nose isn't it, go on, admit it, small club man. Shelfrhino
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11:24pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Shelfrhino says...

blue marlin wrote:
need to know wrote:
chis caisleys silence is deafening only good thing to come out of it is that he will loose all his shares . all the x directors should be brought to book including caisley and his gang of 2006
as i said before, a man on a white charger will ride up manchester road in the knick of time !!!!
Delusional and desperate.
[quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]need to know[/bold] wrote: chis caisleys silence is deafening only good thing to come out of it is that he will loose all his shares . all the x directors should be brought to book including caisley and his gang of 2006[/p][/quote]as i said before, a man on a white charger will ride up manchester road in the knick of time !!!![/p][/quote]Delusional and desperate. Shelfrhino
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11:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.
I can feel the love all the way over here in Halifax. Here's a thought, why don't you support Wakey? Or are you another glory fan with no glory to be a fan of anymore? Loving how some of you deluded folk on here keep mentioning a knight on a white charger coming in at the last minute, that head in the sand fool Adey mentions this on RLfans, and here you are taking it all in like sheep. Marching on together. ps, Not very nice to wish me dead is it. pps, The current world and Superleague champions are self financing. That's what really gets up your nose isn't it, go on, admit it, small club man.
It is you who is the deluded one, self funded??, so Caddick isn't the one with all the money then, and you call our ground a hole!!. Even your own supporters think your ground is a heap. As I said, if Caddick wasn't there then you lot would be up the preverbial creek without a paddle, so don't come on here thinking that they are self funding. If it was'nt for the bulls, then who do you think are going to supliment your attendances. Yes I feel sorry for our demise and our fans have been cheated, but if you were a genuine rugby supporter then you would wish us all the best and not be wrapped up in all of your own self glory. If it was your lot then I would feel sorry for them and wish them all the best
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.[/p][/quote]I can feel the love all the way over here in Halifax. Here's a thought, why don't you support Wakey? Or are you another glory fan with no glory to be a fan of anymore? Loving how some of you deluded folk on here keep mentioning a knight on a white charger coming in at the last minute, that head in the sand fool Adey mentions this on RLfans, and here you are taking it all in like sheep. Marching on together. ps, Not very nice to wish me dead is it. pps, The current world and Superleague champions are self financing. That's what really gets up your nose isn't it, go on, admit it, small club man.[/p][/quote]It is you who is the deluded one, self funded??, so Caddick isn't the one with all the money then, and you call our ground a hole!!. Even your own supporters think your ground is a heap. As I said, if Caddick wasn't there then you lot would be up the preverbial creek without a paddle, so don't come on here thinking that they are self funding. If it was'nt for the bulls, then who do you think are going to supliment your attendances. Yes I feel sorry for our demise and our fans have been cheated, but if you were a genuine rugby supporter then you would wish us all the best and not be wrapped up in all of your own self glory. If it was your lot then I would feel sorry for them and wish them all the best hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull
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6:28am Fri 29 Jun 12

Potter for the sack says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.
No he might still win tonight's game on a full house
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: This kind of blows Meccabingos prediction away doesn't it.[/p][/quote]No he might still win tonight's game on a full house Potter for the sack
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7:19am Fri 29 Jun 12

BD16 says...

TirNaNog wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Oh the irony!
Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him!
[quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Oh the irony![/p][/quote]Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him! BD16
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9:54am Fri 29 Jun 12

Camicus says...

As a BHAFC supporter I feel your pain. As a club we had no ground were bankrupt looking at dropping out of the leauge and winding up my beloved Albion. 15 years later we have a new stadium sound finacial footing blah blah blah. Keep the faith and it will all come right in the end. It will be a long hard struggle but I know the supporters of the bulls have it in them to keep there club alive. Good luck and take heart things always look darkest just before dawn.
As a BHAFC supporter I feel your pain. As a club we had no ground were bankrupt looking at dropping out of the leauge and winding up my beloved Albion. 15 years later we have a new stadium sound finacial footing blah blah blah. Keep the faith and it will all come right in the end. It will be a long hard struggle but I know the supporters of the bulls have it in them to keep there club alive. Good luck and take heart things always look darkest just before dawn. Camicus
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12:58pm Fri 29 Jun 12

Laney1989 says...

Hemsworth Bull - Headingley is a "heap"
Sorry, I must of been going to a different ground these past few years?!

Brand new Carnegie stand with outstanding facilities.
SouthStand yes, isn't in the best state although I'd rather have the SS over your "popular terrace"
Western Terrace if it had a roof would be just as good as the SS.
North Stand needs updating BUT it's not falling down, it's perfectly safe and again is better than both your "popular & rooley end"

To call Headingley "a heap" is quite frankly laughable.

Are you bitter?
Hemsworth Bull - Headingley is a "heap" Sorry, I must of been going to a different ground these past few years?! Brand new Carnegie stand with outstanding facilities. SouthStand yes, isn't in the best state although I'd rather have the SS over your "popular terrace" Western Terrace if it had a roof would be just as good as the SS. North Stand needs updating BUT it's not falling down, it's perfectly safe and again is better than both your "popular & rooley end" To call Headingley "a heap" is quite frankly laughable. Are you bitter? Laney1989
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1:54pm Fri 29 Jun 12

Shelfrhino says...

BD16 wrote:
TirNaNog wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Oh the irony!
Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him!
There wasn't any irony, I'm from Leeds and moved to Halifax 5 years ago.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Oh the irony![/p][/quote]Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him![/p][/quote]There wasn't any irony, I'm from Leeds and moved to Halifax 5 years ago. Shelfrhino
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2:03pm Fri 29 Jun 12

Shelfrhino says...

hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.
I can feel the love all the way over here in Halifax. Here's a thought, why don't you support Wakey? Or are you another glory fan with no glory to be a fan of anymore? Loving how some of you deluded folk on here keep mentioning a knight on a white charger coming in at the last minute, that head in the sand fool Adey mentions this on RLfans, and here you are taking it all in like sheep. Marching on together. ps, Not very nice to wish me dead is it. pps, The current world and Superleague champions are self financing. That's what really gets up your nose isn't it, go on, admit it, small club man.
It is you who is the deluded one, self funded??, so Caddick isn't the one with all the money then, and you call our ground a hole!!. Even your own supporters think your ground is a heap. As I said, if Caddick wasn't there then you lot would be up the preverbial creek without a paddle, so don't come on here thinking that they are self funding. If it was'nt for the bulls, then who do you think are going to supliment your attendances. Yes I feel sorry for our demise and our fans have been cheated, but if you were a genuine rugby supporter then you would wish us all the best and not be wrapped up in all of your own self glory. If it was your lot then I would feel sorry for them and wish them all the best
Of course you would feel sorry for the Rhino's if we were up the creek like your lot, I don't think.
As for calling HQ a hole, well it just goes to show how blinkered and deluded you are. I bet your one of Adey's sad crew of Ostriches waiting for Hood to come to rescue at the last minute. Won't happen I'm afraid.
I look forward to taking my future grand children for a walk to Odsal reservoir to feed the ducks.
As far as your remarks about Caddick go, read the accounts.
[quote][p][bold]hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hemsworthbull formerly known as pontebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Shelfrhino, you are the biggest most moronic idiot that I have come across and I wouldn't even pee on you if you were on fire. The rhino's should be ashamed of you if you claim to be a supporter and with your posts, you do not deserve to be still on this planet. For your information, you would not have a club if it wasn't for Mr Caddick. If he wasn't the sugar daddy then they would be nowhere, so stick that up your rear end and go and crawl back under that stone from whenst you came.[/p][/quote]I can feel the love all the way over here in Halifax. Here's a thought, why don't you support Wakey? Or are you another glory fan with no glory to be a fan of anymore? Loving how some of you deluded folk on here keep mentioning a knight on a white charger coming in at the last minute, that head in the sand fool Adey mentions this on RLfans, and here you are taking it all in like sheep. Marching on together. ps, Not very nice to wish me dead is it. pps, The current world and Superleague champions are self financing. That's what really gets up your nose isn't it, go on, admit it, small club man.[/p][/quote]It is you who is the deluded one, self funded??, so Caddick isn't the one with all the money then, and you call our ground a hole!!. Even your own supporters think your ground is a heap. As I said, if Caddick wasn't there then you lot would be up the preverbial creek without a paddle, so don't come on here thinking that they are self funding. If it was'nt for the bulls, then who do you think are going to supliment your attendances. Yes I feel sorry for our demise and our fans have been cheated, but if you were a genuine rugby supporter then you would wish us all the best and not be wrapped up in all of your own self glory. If it was your lot then I would feel sorry for them and wish them all the best[/p][/quote]Of course you would feel sorry for the Rhino's if we were up the creek like your lot, I don't think. As for calling HQ a hole, well it just goes to show how blinkered and deluded you are. I bet your one of Adey's sad crew of Ostriches waiting for Hood to come to rescue at the last minute. Won't happen I'm afraid. I look forward to taking my future grand children for a walk to Odsal reservoir to feed the ducks. As far as your remarks about Caddick go, read the accounts. Shelfrhino
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2:09pm Fri 29 Jun 12

Sheffieldbull says...

Shelfrhino wrote:
BD16 wrote:
TirNaNog wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Oh the irony!
Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him!
There wasn't any irony, I'm from Leeds and moved to Halifax 5 years ago.
Pure irony - You've got a short memory you bloody hypocrite!
[quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Oh the irony![/p][/quote]Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him![/p][/quote]There wasn't any irony, I'm from Leeds and moved to Halifax 5 years ago.[/p][/quote]Pure irony - You've got a short memory you bloody hypocrite! Sheffieldbull
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1:19am Sat 30 Jun 12

Shelfrhino says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote:
BD16 wrote:
TirNaNog wrote:
Shelfrhino wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.
Oh the irony!
Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him!
There wasn't any irony, I'm from Leeds and moved to Halifax 5 years ago.
Pure irony - You've got a short memory you bloody hypocrite!
Your comments mean nothing to me pal.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shelfrhino[/bold] wrote: Halifax get my vote, then maybe some of the bull supporters living in 'fax may start to support their local team instead of being a "glory hunter", not that there's much glory down at the hole anymore.[/p][/quote]Oh the irony![/p][/quote]Having read shelf rhinos later posts I think your comment was a bit too high brow for him![/p][/quote]There wasn't any irony, I'm from Leeds and moved to Halifax 5 years ago.[/p][/quote]Pure irony - You've got a short memory you bloody hypocrite![/p][/quote]Your comments mean nothing to me pal. Shelfrhino
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