260 officers to join mass protest rally over police cuts

PC John Vinnicombe, PC Adam Alam and PC Darren Liddemore outside Trafalgar House Police HQ in Bradford ahead of their trip to London this week for the police protest rally

PC John Vinnicombe, PC Adam Alam and PC Darren Liddemore outside Trafalgar House Police HQ in Bradford ahead of their trip to London this week for the police protest rally

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Chief Reporter

Hundreds of off-duty officers from West Yorkshire, including 260 from Bradford, will head to London this week for a massive police rally protesting at potential cuts to pay and conditions.

West Yorkshire Police Federation members will join up to 30,000 of their off-duty counterparts from across England and Wales for the rally which starts at noon on May 10 in Millbank before a two-hour march around Central London.

It comes as Andrew Tempest-Mitchell, chairman of the West Yorkshire Federation, said officers were to be balloted on whether they wanted the right to strike. He also revealed that West Yorkshire had lost 550 officers within the last two years through ‘natural wastage’ who had not been replaced.

Mr Tempest-Mitchell said that officers were disappointed with the Government’s 20 per cent cuts in policing which has led to “attack after attack on their pay and conditions” and the recommendations in the Winsor Report 2.

The Winsor Report 2 was a review of police pay and conditions carried out by former rail regulator Tom Winsor on behalf of the Home Secretary and suggests annual fitness tests, a move towards narrowing the gap between police officer and staff pay and conditions and lower starting salaries for constables.

“Officers are quite rightly saying that enough is enough,” Mr Tempest-Mitchell said.

“They feel they have been under a deliberate and sustained attack by the Government and feel the Coalition is seeking to slowly dismantle the police service.

“The recommendations in the Winsor 2, if approved, could lead to changes in our conditions that would seriously undermine the office of constable which is the bedrock of British policing,” he added.

“They would also serve to change us from servants of the Crown to employees. So it is understandable that officers are now saying if they are to be treated as employees they should have access to the same rights and legal protections as other workers.

“Police officers have accepted the restrictions placed on their private and personal lives and Governments in the past have respected their unique position in society. But that respect seems to have faded.” Currently, police officers cannot strike, but the ballot will allow members to decide whether they want the Federation to fight for them to have full industrial rights, including the right to strike.

Officers also fear that proposed force changes, contained in the Winsor Report 2, will lead to reduced pensions and less job security.

Bradford South PC John Vinnicombe said that he had never felt the need to protest in the last 22 years.

“However, due to the Winsor report and its reductions, I feel I must make representation against this,” he added.

“As not only will it be the demise of the British police service, but also the demise of the public service.”

PC Adam Alam said that morale, due to the proposed changes, had probably never been so low.

“Not only is it going to be to the detriment of the public, but also to their extended families of officers who deserve a decent quality of life,” he said.

Their colleague, PC Darren Liddemore, said that the report would “destroy the service”.

“I think the Bradford public need to know that the officers from Bradford South are disgusted with Tom Winsor’s report and 166 officers from this division are taking a day off or annual leave to go to London, and that is because they know what is coming,” he added.

West Yorkshire Police will have £100 million cut from its budget from 2012 to 2015 and has lost £33 million this year alone with internal organisational changes and redundancies of civilian staff as well as staff not being replaced.

Out of the 260 from Bradford, 166 officers from the Trafalgar House station will be heading to the rally with at least 40 from Keighley.

A Home Office spokesman said that the existing police pay system was designed over 30 years ago.

“We want police pay and conditions that are fair and fit for the 21st century,” the spokesman added.

“The Home Secretary has referred the recommendations from the final report of the Winsor Review to the appropriate bodies to consider.”

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9:27am Mon 7 May 12

collos25 says...

Do we have a police force in Bradford .
Do we have a police force in Bradford . collos25
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9:33am Mon 7 May 12

Runtothehills says...

Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry! Runtothehills
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9:33am Mon 7 May 12

Runtothehills says...

Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry! Runtothehills
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10:20am Mon 7 May 12

SRS74 says...

Runtothehills wrote:
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
You get paid for the job you do not solely based on the qualifications you have. A person who has a PHD isn't going to be the better person to deal with an emergency situation.
[quote][p][bold]Runtothehills[/bold] wrote: Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry![/p][/quote]You get paid for the job you do not solely based on the qualifications you have. A person who has a PHD isn't going to be the better person to deal with an emergency situation. SRS74
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10:21am Mon 7 May 12

cookie_brighton says...

Disgusting.
The police officers get enough pay for the work they do.
A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum.
If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.
Disgusting. The police officers get enough pay for the work they do. A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum. If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave. cookie_brighton
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10:35am Mon 7 May 12

SRS74 says...

The Police pay system hasn't changed in over 30 years because it works. Don't change something which isn't broken.
Also, this isn't just about pay. The Government appear to want to change a lot of working conditions making it increasingly difficult for a police officer to a balance a homelife.
In the private sector, other public services, civvy street, however you look at it; the rights and conditions are protected, they also have a right to strike if they are threatened.
All the Police are asking for is fairness.
We currently have a very demoralised police service; despite being absolutely committed to providing the best service that we can, we are struggling to cope as the cuts go deeper and deeper. We have already made a fundamental contribution to help tackle the national debt. We have a two-year pay freeze, we have seen our pension contributions increase and a total of £300 million has been removed from police pay, yet we are being singled out and treated very unfairly by this Government.

As police officers, we do not have industrial rights, we cannot go on strike and we feel we have become a target by a Government determined to drive through ideological and detrimental reforms to the police service that will result in a poorer service for the public.
The Police pay system hasn't changed in over 30 years because it works. Don't change something which isn't broken. Also, this isn't just about pay. The Government appear to want to change a lot of working conditions making it increasingly difficult for a police officer to a balance a homelife. In the private sector, other public services, civvy street, however you look at it; the rights and conditions are protected, they also have a right to strike if they are threatened. All the Police are asking for is fairness. We currently have a very demoralised police service; despite being absolutely committed to providing the best service that we can, we are struggling to cope as the cuts go deeper and deeper. We have already made a fundamental contribution to help tackle the national debt. We have a two-year pay freeze, we have seen our pension contributions increase and a total of £300 million has been removed from police pay, yet we are being singled out and treated very unfairly by this Government. As police officers, we do not have industrial rights, we cannot go on strike and we feel we have become a target by a Government determined to drive through ideological and detrimental reforms to the police service that will result in a poorer service for the public. SRS74
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10:37am Mon 7 May 12

cookie_brighton says...

This story has a sign of greed to it...
A new entrant into the British Army receives £13,895.Per Annum
A private in the British Army receives £17,265 Per Annum.
These soldiers are sent to places like Afghanistan to be blown up and shot at on a daily basis.
Do not be posting.....but they have their housing costs paid..(food and lodgings)
Their pay is low, in what they have to give in exchange........some
times.....their life.
This story has a sign of greed to it... A new entrant into the British Army receives £13,895.Per Annum A private in the British Army receives £17,265 Per Annum. These soldiers are sent to places like Afghanistan to be blown up and shot at on a daily basis. Do not be posting.....but they have their housing costs paid..(food and lodgings) Their pay is low, in what they have to give in exchange........some times.....their life. cookie_brighton
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10:41am Mon 7 May 12

SRS74 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
Disgusting.
The police officers get enough pay for the work they do.
A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum.
If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.
In what way is it disgusting? Its not even average pay!
Considering the job as it is, pay is nowhere near what should be expected. But we don't moan about that.
What is your idea of the ideal police officer? And how do you attract them to the police service with low pay.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. The police officers get enough pay for the work they do. A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum. If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.[/p][/quote]In what way is it disgusting? Its not even average pay! Considering the job as it is, pay is nowhere near what should be expected. But we don't moan about that. What is your idea of the ideal police officer? And how do you attract them to the police service with low pay. SRS74
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10:53am Mon 7 May 12

cookie_brighton says...

Every person has a different picture of an "ideal" police officer.
my idea is of one that treats a person with respect......not to throw a person onto the floor then several officers sit on the said person....handcuff the person to the back........when we operate a system of.....innocent until proved guilty in our democratic country.
Every person has a different picture of an "ideal" police officer. my idea is of one that treats a person with respect......not to throw a person onto the floor then several officers sit on the said person....handcuff the person to the back........when we operate a system of.....innocent until proved guilty in our democratic country. cookie_brighton
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11:20am Mon 7 May 12

room124 says...

Not entirely these guys fault. It's a very poorly managed service with top cops allegedly decorating their HQ with expensive oil paintings bought - with taxpayers’ cash - from their own outside business interest.
Not entirely these guys fault. It's a very poorly managed service with top cops allegedly decorating their HQ with expensive oil paintings bought - with taxpayers’ cash - from their own outside business interest. room124
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11:52am Mon 7 May 12

ertnec says...

I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.
I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here. ertnec
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11:58am Mon 7 May 12

Mik_e says...

I sympathise and understand the feelings of the police, who do a difficult job, that most of their critics could not carry out. But I feel that this is a waste of time, as it is illegal for the police to strike or take any form of 'industrial' action. The government will not concede and offer them a right to strike, or they would be relinquishing their hold & control of the police.
I sympathise and understand the feelings of the police, who do a difficult job, that most of their critics could not carry out. But I feel that this is a waste of time, as it is illegal for the police to strike or take any form of 'industrial' action. The government will not concede and offer them a right to strike, or they would be relinquishing their hold & control of the police. Mik_e
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12:26pm Mon 7 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

Runtothehills wrote:
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
Your attitude stinks! what a thing to say. The Police ought to go on strike. The Tory spending cuts are absolutely insane and reckless.
[quote][p][bold]Runtothehills[/bold] wrote: Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry![/p][/quote]Your attitude stinks! what a thing to say. The Police ought to go on strike. The Tory spending cuts are absolutely insane and reckless. a reasonable sort of chap
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12:27pm Mon 7 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
Disgusting.
The police officers get enough pay for the work they do.
A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum.
If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.
24 grand a year? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. They deserve double that amount for the sh1t they have to put up with.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. The police officers get enough pay for the work they do. A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum. If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.[/p][/quote]24 grand a year? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. They deserve double that amount for the sh1t they have to put up with. a reasonable sort of chap
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12:32pm Mon 7 May 12

Albion. says...

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote:
Disgusting.
The police officers get enough pay for the work they do.
A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum.
If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.
24 grand a year? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. They deserve double that amount for the sh1t they have to put up with.
You wouldn't get out of bed full stop!
[quote][p][bold]a reasonable sort of chap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. The police officers get enough pay for the work they do. A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum. If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.[/p][/quote]24 grand a year? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. They deserve double that amount for the sh1t they have to put up with.[/p][/quote]You wouldn't get out of bed full stop! Albion.
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12:43pm Mon 7 May 12

huggy b says...

Kettle them!
Kettle them! huggy b
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12:56pm Mon 7 May 12

birday says...

SRS74 wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote:
Disgusting.
The police officers get enough pay for the work they do.
A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum.
If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.
In what way is it disgusting? Its not even average pay!
Considering the job as it is, pay is nowhere near what should be expected. But we don't moan about that.
What is your idea of the ideal police officer? And how do you attract them to the police service with low pay.
Check the facts for yourself:

http://www.policeora
cle.com/pay_and_cond
itions/police_pay_sc
ales.html

or

http://www.police-in
formation.co.uk/poli
cepay.htm

... someone's pulling your leg!
[quote][p][bold]SRS74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. The police officers get enough pay for the work they do. A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum. If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.[/p][/quote]In what way is it disgusting? Its not even average pay! Considering the job as it is, pay is nowhere near what should be expected. But we don't moan about that. What is your idea of the ideal police officer? And how do you attract them to the police service with low pay.[/p][/quote]Check the facts for yourself: http://www.policeora cle.com/pay_and_cond itions/police_pay_sc ales.html or http://www.police-in formation.co.uk/poli cepay.htm ... someone's pulling your leg! birday
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1:06pm Mon 7 May 12

OLDLAD says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
This story has a sign of greed to it...
A new entrant into the British Army receives £13,895.Per Annum
A private in the British Army receives £17,265 Per Annum.
These soldiers are sent to places like Afghanistan to be blown up and shot at on a daily basis.
Do not be posting.....but they have their housing costs paid..(food and lodgings)
Their pay is low, in what they have to give in exchange........some

times.....their life.
Sorry but wrong. Just to dispel the commonly held view that accommodation and food are free, they are not. I have to pay both and council tax (cilot). Nothing in the Forces is free.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: This story has a sign of greed to it... A new entrant into the British Army receives £13,895.Per Annum A private in the British Army receives £17,265 Per Annum. These soldiers are sent to places like Afghanistan to be blown up and shot at on a daily basis. Do not be posting.....but they have their housing costs paid..(food and lodgings) Their pay is low, in what they have to give in exchange........some times.....their life.[/p][/quote]Sorry but wrong. Just to dispel the commonly held view that accommodation and food are free, they are not. I have to pay both and council tax (cilot). Nothing in the Forces is free. OLDLAD
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1:28pm Mon 7 May 12

ra-ra says...

Its not like Dixon of Dock Green these officers face real danger every scum bag in Bradford now carries a gun as recent shootings will prove, overworked and underpaied this gov cannot expect people to live like this.
Its not like Dixon of Dock Green these officers face real danger every scum bag in Bradford now carries a gun as recent shootings will prove, overworked and underpaied this gov cannot expect people to live like this. ra-ra
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1:43pm Mon 7 May 12

huggy b says...

ra-ra wrote:
Its not like Dixon of Dock Green these officers face real danger every scum bag in Bradford now carries a gun as recent shootings will prove, overworked and underpaied this gov cannot expect people to live like this.
In a city where elected councillors carry rocket launchers can you blame the scumbags for carrying guns? :)
[quote][p][bold]ra-ra[/bold] wrote: Its not like Dixon of Dock Green these officers face real danger every scum bag in Bradford now carries a gun as recent shootings will prove, overworked and underpaied this gov cannot expect people to live like this.[/p][/quote]In a city where elected councillors carry rocket launchers can you blame the scumbags for carrying guns? :) huggy b
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2:03pm Mon 7 May 12

Martinez75 says...

Was wondering when the police was going to need sympathy from the public. It seems kettling students, stopping public protests and using excessive force in riot gear when we want to march legally is ok. When the police stop following orders that protect the governing elite and return to the days of being policeMEN instead of tax-collecting policeOFFICERS i will sympathise.
Was wondering when the police was going to need sympathy from the public. It seems kettling students, stopping public protests and using excessive force in riot gear when we want to march legally is ok. When the police stop following orders that protect the governing elite and return to the days of being policeMEN instead of tax-collecting policeOFFICERS i will sympathise. Martinez75
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3:45pm Mon 7 May 12

RikG01 says...

The police in general deserve their pay. You can't attack the whole because of the actions of the few. However, I hope this teaches the police some humility. Their lack of action against this growing tide of violent, anti-dissent is silent consent and support of the police state we see looming over us.

If the police want to be supported in their protest, they need to support the rest of us too. Not blindly follow orders and allow their fellow officers to beat innocent civilians half to death.

It's about time the police recognised that they are being abused by the greedy 1%
The police in general deserve their pay. You can't attack the whole because of the actions of the few. However, I hope this teaches the police some humility. Their lack of action against this growing tide of violent, anti-dissent is silent consent and support of the police state we see looming over us. If the police want to be supported in their protest, they need to support the rest of us too. Not blindly follow orders and allow their fellow officers to beat innocent civilians half to death. It's about time the police recognised that they are being abused by the greedy 1% RikG01
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4:14pm Mon 7 May 12

Runtothehills says...

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Runtothehills wrote:
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
Your attitude stinks! what a thing to say. The Police ought to go on strike. The Tory spending cuts are absolutely insane and reckless.
The Tory spending cuts are insane and reckless you say, was the labour spendthrift approach not more reckless? That is why we are in his situation. I am assuming that you would also be against higher tax rates to pay for the spending (or borrowing) to pay for the reduction of the cuts.
[quote][p][bold]a reasonable sort of chap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Runtothehills[/bold] wrote: Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry![/p][/quote]Your attitude stinks! what a thing to say. The Police ought to go on strike. The Tory spending cuts are absolutely insane and reckless.[/p][/quote]The Tory spending cuts are insane and reckless you say, was the labour spendthrift approach not more reckless? That is why we are in his situation. I am assuming that you would also be against higher tax rates to pay for the spending (or borrowing) to pay for the reduction of the cuts. Runtothehills
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5:21pm Mon 7 May 12

yezboss says...

This Government seem intent on committing Hari-Kari.
First they take on the pensioners and lose big time in the local polls. Then they take on the Police Service who they look to to defend them. Windsor gives bad advice, why ask him I'll never know, lose lose. Cameron and May look for another job.
This Government seem intent on committing Hari-Kari. First they take on the pensioners and lose big time in the local polls. Then they take on the Police Service who they look to to defend them. Windsor gives bad advice, why ask him I'll never know, lose lose. Cameron and May look for another job. yezboss
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5:22pm Mon 7 May 12

Mish29 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
This story has a sign of greed to it...
A new entrant into the British Army receives £13,895.Per Annum
A private in the British Army receives £17,265 Per Annum.
These soldiers are sent to places like Afghanistan to be blown up and shot at on a daily basis.
Do not be posting.....but they have their housing costs paid..(food and lodgings)
Their pay is low, in what they have to give in exchange........some

times.....their life.
Nobody forces anybody to join the army. They know what there entering eg pay, possibility of going to war.
Don't get me wrong they do a great job and I agree about the pay they get, it's disgusting !!
But in today's society the police do put there lives on the line day in day out !!
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: This story has a sign of greed to it... A new entrant into the British Army receives £13,895.Per Annum A private in the British Army receives £17,265 Per Annum. These soldiers are sent to places like Afghanistan to be blown up and shot at on a daily basis. Do not be posting.....but they have their housing costs paid..(food and lodgings) Their pay is low, in what they have to give in exchange........some times.....their life.[/p][/quote]Nobody forces anybody to join the army. They know what there entering eg pay, possibility of going to war. Don't get me wrong they do a great job and I agree about the pay they get, it's disgusting !! But in today's society the police do put there lives on the line day in day out !! Mish29
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6:19pm Mon 7 May 12

eebygum says...

Who's going to Police their picket lines? like some of those officers who stopped Coal Miners picketing. Will be interesting to see if they are stopped on route to picket and made to turn back. Or hit with truncheons for peaceful picketing.
Who's going to Police their picket lines? like some of those officers who stopped Coal Miners picketing. Will be interesting to see if they are stopped on route to picket and made to turn back. Or hit with truncheons for peaceful picketing. eebygum
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7:15pm Mon 7 May 12

justjustice says...

The police need to be doing their job before they should be paid!

Just last year we had a representative claiming gun crime is at a record law; yet in the last 2 years I've read more gun shot and crime articles than in the previous 10 put together! And just recently there was an article on how they are trying to reduce it.

Like the government, I dont think the police know what is happening on the streets. WE have drug dealers everywhere, youth who know they can get away with vandalism as it'll take a couple hours for an officer to respond! Is it any wonder why there is so much crime these days? And the cuts and demands for higher wages arent helping!

So with crime actually increasing, does any officer deserve their current pay?
After-all remember that incident where a person's shed being obviously vandalised by a human, the officer wrote it up as a "badger incident". This done all in the efforts to help reduce crimes figures! - the underhanded and falsifying documents way of course.
The police need to be doing their job before they should be paid! Just last year we had a representative claiming gun crime is at a record law; yet in the last 2 years I've read more gun shot and crime articles than in the previous 10 put together! And just recently there was an article on how they are trying to reduce it. Like the government, I dont think the police know what is happening on the streets. WE have drug dealers everywhere, youth who know they can get away with vandalism as it'll take a couple hours for an officer to respond! Is it any wonder why there is so much crime these days? And the cuts and demands for higher wages arent helping! So with crime actually increasing, does any officer deserve their current pay? After-all remember that incident where a person's shed being obviously vandalised by a human, the officer wrote it up as a "badger incident". This done all in the efforts to help reduce crimes figures! - the underhanded and falsifying documents way of course. justjustice
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8:27pm Mon 7 May 12

kylio says...

wrote:
Hopefully police will now
prioritise what crimes to deal with instead of walking round streets and standing at crime scenes.
[quote][p][bold][/bold] wrote: [/p][/quote]Hopefully police will now prioritise what crimes to deal with instead of walking round streets and standing at crime scenes. kylio
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8:44pm Mon 7 May 12

queensbury says...

well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this
well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this queensbury
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9:40pm Mon 7 May 12

flogem says...

queensbury wrote:
well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this
You have done very well to get to 54.I would love to see a police statement written by you read out in court it would be funny.I would have thought a wet "blancket" would be quite useful up in Qeensbury.
[quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this[/p][/quote]You have done very well to get to 54.I would love to see a police statement written by you read out in court it would be funny.I would have thought a wet "blancket" would be quite useful up in Qeensbury. flogem
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9:51pm Mon 7 May 12

i hate bradford says...

Some of the police i know are bullies. They think they can treat people violently and then have our respect. I have a complaint running with them right now. They don't even know or follow their own guidelines or the law. Yes many are excellent helpful workers among them but there are also many racist nasty bullying lying idiots. instead of trailing down to London they ought to be sent to a class room to learn their own guidelines especially around treatment of vulnerable and mentally ill people alleged of a crime.
Some of the police i know are bullies. They think they can treat people violently and then have our respect. I have a complaint running with them right now. They don't even know or follow their own guidelines or the law. Yes many are excellent helpful workers among them but there are also many racist nasty bullying lying idiots. instead of trailing down to London they ought to be sent to a class room to learn their own guidelines especially around treatment of vulnerable and mentally ill people alleged of a crime. i hate bradford
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9:55pm Mon 7 May 12

i hate bradford says...

flogem wrote:
queensbury wrote:
well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this
You have done very well to get to 54.I would love to see a police statement written by you read out in court it would be funny.I would have thought a wet "blancket" would be quite useful up in Qeensbury.
Did you just attempt to be rude about his spellings and then make one yourself? Wonder what your statement would be like when it was read out in court, are you also from "qeensbury" ?
[quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this[/p][/quote]You have done very well to get to 54.I would love to see a police statement written by you read out in court it would be funny.I would have thought a wet "blancket" would be quite useful up in Qeensbury.[/p][/quote]Did you just attempt to be rude about his spellings and then make one yourself? Wonder what your statement would be like when it was read out in court, are you also from "qeensbury" ? i hate bradford
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10:09pm Mon 7 May 12

benji96m says...

ertnec wrote:
I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.
Just for info, these officers (and some of their families) are going to London in their own time, not duty time. They are not getting paid for going, yet are taking a considerable chunk out of their not very few days off to travel to London to do so. There will still be the usual number of officers on duty, who will, as usual, deal without hesitation with any kind of incident which will be thrown at them!

The Police do an increasingly difficult and dangerous job, and although I agree that their pay now is probably about fair for the risks they take and the anti social hours which they work, I cannot see how reducing pay while increasing pension contributions & cutting staff can even be considered justified. I most certainly cannot understand how the public are happy to have less police on the streets!!

Just consider the following:
How you would cope if you were told that your household income was going to reduce by 20%...how would that impact on your life/finances?
Could you still meet your mortgage/financial agreements, or could it potentially force you towards bankruptcy (yet another think which a police officer isn't allowed to do!).
Would you still feel safe in your own home with nobody to protect your property/loved ones?
Also....
Could you tell a parent their child had died?
Could you cope with constant verbal & physical abuse from vomit/blood/urine soaked drunks?
Could you keep calm while being threatened with weapons or other physical violence?
Could you go into a pub fight on your own and try to break it up, knowing that the chances are that both sides could turn on you?
Could you pick body pieces up after a car/train/industrial accident?
Could you do all this while the majority of the population is in bed or in their cosy office, blissfully unaware of exactly what is going on probably not too far away?
Finally, could you kiss your loved ones goodbye as you leave for work, knowing that there's a chance that your job could mean that you don't return to them?

Police officers in the UK do all of this, and more, on a daily basis, without hesitation, question, or complaint. Don't believe me, there's plenty of ways for you to experience it yourself!
[quote][p][bold]ertnec[/bold] wrote: I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.[/p][/quote]Just for info, these officers (and some of their families) are going to London in their own time, not duty time. They are not getting paid for going, yet are taking a considerable chunk out of their not very few days off to travel to London to do so. There will still be the usual number of officers on duty, who will, as usual, deal without hesitation with any kind of incident which will be thrown at them! The Police do an increasingly difficult and dangerous job, and although I agree that their pay now is probably about fair for the risks they take and the anti social hours which they work, I cannot see how reducing pay while increasing pension contributions & cutting staff can even be considered justified. I most certainly cannot understand how the public are happy to have less police on the streets!! Just consider the following: How you would cope if you were told that your household income was going to reduce by 20%...how would that impact on your life/finances? Could you still meet your mortgage/financial agreements, or could it potentially force you towards bankruptcy (yet another think which a police officer isn't allowed to do!). Would you still feel safe in your own home with nobody to protect your property/loved ones? Also.... Could you tell a parent their child had died? Could you cope with constant verbal & physical abuse from vomit/blood/urine soaked drunks? Could you keep calm while being threatened with weapons or other physical violence? Could you go into a pub fight on your own and try to break it up, knowing that the chances are that both sides could turn on you? Could you pick body pieces up after a car/train/industrial accident? Could you do all this while the majority of the population is in bed or in their cosy office, blissfully unaware of exactly what is going on probably not too far away? Finally, could you kiss your loved ones goodbye as you leave for work, knowing that there's a chance that your job could mean that you don't return to them? Police officers in the UK do all of this, and more, on a daily basis, without hesitation, question, or complaint. Don't believe me, there's plenty of ways for you to experience it yourself! benji96m
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10:37pm Mon 7 May 12

mad matt says...

The Tories always target the people who can't fight back. Police officers are not allowed to strike so that makes them an easy target with all these cuts, the same easy targets as pensioners, disabled people, home carers and low paid manual workers who don't have union support.
The Tories always target the people who can't fight back. Police officers are not allowed to strike so that makes them an easy target with all these cuts, the same easy targets as pensioners, disabled people, home carers and low paid manual workers who don't have union support. mad matt
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10:53pm Mon 7 May 12

i hate bradford says...

benji96m wrote:
ertnec wrote:
I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.
Just for info, these officers (and some of their families) are going to London in their own time, not duty time. They are not getting paid for going, yet are taking a considerable chunk out of their not very few days off to travel to London to do so. There will still be the usual number of officers on duty, who will, as usual, deal without hesitation with any kind of incident which will be thrown at them!

The Police do an increasingly difficult and dangerous job, and although I agree that their pay now is probably about fair for the risks they take and the anti social hours which they work, I cannot see how reducing pay while increasing pension contributions & cutting staff can even be considered justified. I most certainly cannot understand how the public are happy to have less police on the streets!!

Just consider the following:
How you would cope if you were told that your household income was going to reduce by 20%...how would that impact on your life/finances?
Could you still meet your mortgage/financial agreements, or could it potentially force you towards bankruptcy (yet another think which a police officer isn't allowed to do!).
Would you still feel safe in your own home with nobody to protect your property/loved ones?
Also....
Could you tell a parent their child had died?
Could you cope with constant verbal & physical abuse from vomit/blood/urine soaked drunks?
Could you keep calm while being threatened with weapons or other physical violence?
Could you go into a pub fight on your own and try to break it up, knowing that the chances are that both sides could turn on you?
Could you pick body pieces up after a car/train/industrial accident?
Could you do all this while the majority of the population is in bed or in their cosy office, blissfully unaware of exactly what is going on probably not too far away?
Finally, could you kiss your loved ones goodbye as you leave for work, knowing that there's a chance that your job could mean that you don't return to them?

Police officers in the UK do all of this, and more, on a daily basis, without hesitation, question, or complaint. Don't believe me, there's plenty of ways for you to experience it yourself!
Every time someone goes out of the house there is a risk they will never return. you are correct about police working hard they do but you are paid for it too. there are also some who abuse their positions and be violent, racist and aggressive instead of impartial as they are trained to be. many have no idea of their own guidelines and many treat innocent (innocent till proved in court -not until copper decide you are guilty) like rubbish. i have heard a policeman be racist. my son witnessed a man being nutted by a police officer and called an n word too. i know of times the police havent known their own rules and i have had to point out the law. their wages shouldnt be cut tbh but neither should our disabled have ALL of their money stopped by the government and loose their homes etc. we are having a recession and everybody is suffering. no point in striking -maybe a media blackout will be ordered as they have done with workfare nhs privatization etc. they know it is going to blow so they are keeping us in the dark as much as possible.
[quote][p][bold]benji96m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ertnec[/bold] wrote: I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.[/p][/quote]Just for info, these officers (and some of their families) are going to London in their own time, not duty time. They are not getting paid for going, yet are taking a considerable chunk out of their not very few days off to travel to London to do so. There will still be the usual number of officers on duty, who will, as usual, deal without hesitation with any kind of incident which will be thrown at them! The Police do an increasingly difficult and dangerous job, and although I agree that their pay now is probably about fair for the risks they take and the anti social hours which they work, I cannot see how reducing pay while increasing pension contributions & cutting staff can even be considered justified. I most certainly cannot understand how the public are happy to have less police on the streets!! Just consider the following: How you would cope if you were told that your household income was going to reduce by 20%...how would that impact on your life/finances? Could you still meet your mortgage/financial agreements, or could it potentially force you towards bankruptcy (yet another think which a police officer isn't allowed to do!). Would you still feel safe in your own home with nobody to protect your property/loved ones? Also.... Could you tell a parent their child had died? Could you cope with constant verbal & physical abuse from vomit/blood/urine soaked drunks? Could you keep calm while being threatened with weapons or other physical violence? Could you go into a pub fight on your own and try to break it up, knowing that the chances are that both sides could turn on you? Could you pick body pieces up after a car/train/industrial accident? Could you do all this while the majority of the population is in bed or in their cosy office, blissfully unaware of exactly what is going on probably not too far away? Finally, could you kiss your loved ones goodbye as you leave for work, knowing that there's a chance that your job could mean that you don't return to them? Police officers in the UK do all of this, and more, on a daily basis, without hesitation, question, or complaint. Don't believe me, there's plenty of ways for you to experience it yourself![/p][/quote]Every time someone goes out of the house there is a risk they will never return. you are correct about police working hard they do but you are paid for it too. there are also some who abuse their positions and be violent, racist and aggressive instead of impartial as they are trained to be. many have no idea of their own guidelines and many treat innocent (innocent till proved in court -not until copper decide you are guilty) like rubbish. i have heard a policeman be racist. my son witnessed a man being nutted by a police officer and called an n word too. i know of times the police havent known their own rules and i have had to point out the law. their wages shouldnt be cut tbh but neither should our disabled have ALL of their money stopped by the government and loose their homes etc. we are having a recession and everybody is suffering. no point in striking -maybe a media blackout will be ordered as they have done with workfare nhs privatization etc. they know it is going to blow so they are keeping us in the dark as much as possible. i hate bradford
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12:28am Tue 8 May 12

benji96m says...

i hate bradford wrote:
benji96m wrote:
ertnec wrote:
I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.
Just for info, these officers (and some of their families) are going to London in their own time, not duty time. They are not getting paid for going, yet are taking a considerable chunk out of their not very few days off to travel to London to do so. There will still be the usual number of officers on duty, who will, as usual, deal without hesitation with any kind of incident which will be thrown at them!

The Police do an increasingly difficult and dangerous job, and although I agree that their pay now is probably about fair for the risks they take and the anti social hours which they work, I cannot see how reducing pay while increasing pension contributions & cutting staff can even be considered justified. I most certainly cannot understand how the public are happy to have less police on the streets!!

Just consider the following:
How you would cope if you were told that your household income was going to reduce by 20%...how would that impact on your life/finances?
Could you still meet your mortgage/financial agreements, or could it potentially force you towards bankruptcy (yet another think which a police officer isn't allowed to do!).
Would you still feel safe in your own home with nobody to protect your property/loved ones?
Also....
Could you tell a parent their child had died?
Could you cope with constant verbal & physical abuse from vomit/blood/urine soaked drunks?
Could you keep calm while being threatened with weapons or other physical violence?
Could you go into a pub fight on your own and try to break it up, knowing that the chances are that both sides could turn on you?
Could you pick body pieces up after a car/train/industrial accident?
Could you do all this while the majority of the population is in bed or in their cosy office, blissfully unaware of exactly what is going on probably not too far away?
Finally, could you kiss your loved ones goodbye as you leave for work, knowing that there's a chance that your job could mean that you don't return to them?

Police officers in the UK do all of this, and more, on a daily basis, without hesitation, question, or complaint. Don't believe me, there's plenty of ways for you to experience it yourself!
Every time someone goes out of the house there is a risk they will never return. you are correct about police working hard they do but you are paid for it too. there are also some who abuse their positions and be violent, racist and aggressive instead of impartial as they are trained to be. many have no idea of their own guidelines and many treat innocent (innocent till proved in court -not until copper decide you are guilty) like rubbish. i have heard a policeman be racist. my son witnessed a man being nutted by a police officer and called an n word too. i know of times the police havent known their own rules and i have had to point out the law. their wages shouldnt be cut tbh but neither should our disabled have ALL of their money stopped by the government and loose their homes etc. we are having a recession and everybody is suffering. no point in striking -maybe a media blackout will be ordered as they have done with workfare nhs privatization etc. they know it is going to blow so they are keeping us in the dark as much as possible.
Agreed, in the main. Those who are lazy, unprofessional, or simply incompetent, should not be posted to the office of constable, however they are, in my experience, in the minority. Most police officers do what they do because they want to. Because they want to stop crims doing horrible things to innocent people. Because, in the main, they want to make the country in which we all live, a safer place. Remember...police officers have family too - I'm sure none of them want their kids, nieces, nephews etc to grow up in a society which is even worse than current standards.

Never mind attacking pay and conditions, how about the government actually starts backing our police service, supporting better convictions for the guilty, and cutting the red tape which often makes victims feel like the suspects?! The police can only act on the powers they are given from above, and in line with the support which the courts and the government give. You want the crims off the streets? The police will gladly take them, unfortunately though, the courts will let most of them straight back out again!

They swear to protect YOUR life, protect YOUR property, and investigate YOUR crime. Now hows about you do something in return, and show som support!

(ps, sorry "I hate Bradford", not a personal dig, just think it needed to be put out there.)
[quote][p][bold]i hate bradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benji96m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ertnec[/bold] wrote: I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.[/p][/quote]Just for info, these officers (and some of their families) are going to London in their own time, not duty time. They are not getting paid for going, yet are taking a considerable chunk out of their not very few days off to travel to London to do so. There will still be the usual number of officers on duty, who will, as usual, deal without hesitation with any kind of incident which will be thrown at them! The Police do an increasingly difficult and dangerous job, and although I agree that their pay now is probably about fair for the risks they take and the anti social hours which they work, I cannot see how reducing pay while increasing pension contributions & cutting staff can even be considered justified. I most certainly cannot understand how the public are happy to have less police on the streets!! Just consider the following: How you would cope if you were told that your household income was going to reduce by 20%...how would that impact on your life/finances? Could you still meet your mortgage/financial agreements, or could it potentially force you towards bankruptcy (yet another think which a police officer isn't allowed to do!). Would you still feel safe in your own home with nobody to protect your property/loved ones? Also.... Could you tell a parent their child had died? Could you cope with constant verbal & physical abuse from vomit/blood/urine soaked drunks? Could you keep calm while being threatened with weapons or other physical violence? Could you go into a pub fight on your own and try to break it up, knowing that the chances are that both sides could turn on you? Could you pick body pieces up after a car/train/industrial accident? Could you do all this while the majority of the population is in bed or in their cosy office, blissfully unaware of exactly what is going on probably not too far away? Finally, could you kiss your loved ones goodbye as you leave for work, knowing that there's a chance that your job could mean that you don't return to them? Police officers in the UK do all of this, and more, on a daily basis, without hesitation, question, or complaint. Don't believe me, there's plenty of ways for you to experience it yourself![/p][/quote]Every time someone goes out of the house there is a risk they will never return. you are correct about police working hard they do but you are paid for it too. there are also some who abuse their positions and be violent, racist and aggressive instead of impartial as they are trained to be. many have no idea of their own guidelines and many treat innocent (innocent till proved in court -not until copper decide you are guilty) like rubbish. i have heard a policeman be racist. my son witnessed a man being nutted by a police officer and called an n word too. i know of times the police havent known their own rules and i have had to point out the law. their wages shouldnt be cut tbh but neither should our disabled have ALL of their money stopped by the government and loose their homes etc. we are having a recession and everybody is suffering. no point in striking -maybe a media blackout will be ordered as they have done with workfare nhs privatization etc. they know it is going to blow so they are keeping us in the dark as much as possible.[/p][/quote]Agreed, in the main. Those who are lazy, unprofessional, or simply incompetent, should not be posted to the office of constable, however they are, in my experience, in the minority. Most police officers do what they do because they want to. Because they want to stop crims doing horrible things to innocent people. Because, in the main, they want to make the country in which we all live, a safer place. Remember...police officers have family too - I'm sure none of them want their kids, nieces, nephews etc to grow up in a society which is even worse than current standards. Never mind attacking pay and conditions, how about the government actually starts backing our police service, supporting better convictions for the guilty, and cutting the red tape which often makes victims feel like the suspects?! The police can only act on the powers they are given from above, and in line with the support which the courts and the government give. You want the crims off the streets? The police will gladly take them, unfortunately though, the courts will let most of them straight back out again! They swear to protect YOUR life, protect YOUR property, and investigate YOUR crime. Now hows about you do something in return, and show som support! (ps, sorry "I hate Bradford", not a personal dig, just think it needed to be put out there.) benji96m
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2:49am Tue 8 May 12

justjustice says...

Here is your crime reference number. Ah, t'is a nice day for fighting crime!

I had a youth threaten me with a knife once, police did absolutely noting, they didnt want to hear about it or want to chase it up, just a crime reference number and never heard from them again. I would have put in a complaint, but what can we expect from that?! An "Oh sorry" and then completely ignore the complaint and continue doing the same.

A lot of people join the police force as either they are bullies of racists, or its such an easy job, handing out crime reference numbers, that it's easy money. They dont want to protect YOUR life, YOUR property, YOUR rights, they want to get paid THEIR salary for doing as LITTLE work as possible!
Here is your crime reference number. Ah, t'is a nice day for fighting crime! I had a youth threaten me with a knife once, police did absolutely noting, they didnt want to hear about it or want to chase it up, just a crime reference number and never heard from them again. I would have put in a complaint, but what can we expect from that?! An "Oh sorry" and then completely ignore the complaint and continue doing the same. A lot of people join the police force as either they are bullies of racists, or its such an easy job, handing out crime reference numbers, that it's easy money. They dont want to protect YOUR life, YOUR property, YOUR rights, they want to get paid THEIR salary for doing as LITTLE work as possible! justjustice
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7:57am Tue 8 May 12

eckybantam says...

if this was another band of employees it would be an unlawful assembly one rule for one and another for another as they say
if this was another band of employees it would be an unlawful assembly one rule for one and another for another as they say eckybantam
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12:15pm Tue 8 May 12

flogem says...

i hate bradford wrote:
flogem wrote:
queensbury wrote: well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this
You have done very well to get to 54.I would love to see a police statement written by you read out in court it would be funny.I would have thought a wet "blancket" would be quite useful up in Qeensbury.
Did you just attempt to be rude about his spellings and then make one yourself? Wonder what your statement would be like when it was read out in court, are you also from "qeensbury" ?
You are right I was being rude about his"spellings".Then I made a bad mistake by doing the same thing.Shot myself in the foot serves me right.
[quote][p][bold]i hate bradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: well been of the age now 54 i allway thught that police in bradford did a good but how very wrong i im havig had use the 2x thery waere a bout has much use has wet blancket the need to get off the fat backsides and do sum work for one i now dont have eney respect or time for them and they manners well i was told to always respet them iwould give them the time of day and think im not the only preson that thinks this[/p][/quote]You have done very well to get to 54.I would love to see a police statement written by you read out in court it would be funny.I would have thought a wet "blancket" would be quite useful up in Qeensbury.[/p][/quote]Did you just attempt to be rude about his spellings and then make one yourself? Wonder what your statement would be like when it was read out in court, are you also from "qeensbury" ?[/p][/quote]You are right I was being rude about his"spellings".Then I made a bad mistake by doing the same thing.Shot myself in the foot serves me right. flogem
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7:55pm Tue 8 May 12

razzer39 says...

The rank and file policeman/women work hard, but the higher up you go the less you do, its the same in any industry.
The rank and file policeman/women work hard, but the higher up you go the less you do, its the same in any industry. razzer39
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10:22pm Tue 8 May 12

queensbury says...

TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS
dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****
TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the **** queensbury
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10:24pm Tue 8 May 12

queensbury says...

sorry this all mixed up but i think he will get what i mean
sorry this all mixed up but i think he will get what i mean queensbury
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9:33am Wed 9 May 12

flogem says...

queensbury wrote:
sorry this all mixed up but i think he will get what i mean
I think I know what you mean.
[quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: sorry this all mixed up but i think he will get what i mean[/p][/quote]I think I know what you mean. flogem
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11:27am Wed 9 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

Runtothehills wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Runtothehills wrote:
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
Your attitude stinks! what a thing to say. The Police ought to go on strike. The Tory spending cuts are absolutely insane and reckless.
The Tory spending cuts are insane and reckless you say, was the labour spendthrift approach not more reckless? That is why we are in his situation. I am assuming that you would also be against higher tax rates to pay for the spending (or borrowing) to pay for the reduction of the cuts.
You assume wrong. I am in favour of taxation, that is how socialism works.
[quote][p][bold]Runtothehills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a reasonable sort of chap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Runtothehills[/bold] wrote: Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry![/p][/quote]Your attitude stinks! what a thing to say. The Police ought to go on strike. The Tory spending cuts are absolutely insane and reckless.[/p][/quote]The Tory spending cuts are insane and reckless you say, was the labour spendthrift approach not more reckless? That is why we are in his situation. I am assuming that you would also be against higher tax rates to pay for the spending (or borrowing) to pay for the reduction of the cuts.[/p][/quote]You assume wrong. I am in favour of taxation, that is how socialism works. a reasonable sort of chap
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11:31am Wed 9 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

Albion. wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote:
Disgusting.
The police officers get enough pay for the work they do.
A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum.
If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.
24 grand a year? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. They deserve double that amount for the sh1t they have to put up with.
You wouldn't get out of bed full stop!
I'll have you know I am up with the Larks these days!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a reasonable sort of chap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. The police officers get enough pay for the work they do. A serving west yorkshire police constable, as at 1st september 2010, received £23,259 per annum. If any police officer does not like the pay etc, simple....leave.[/p][/quote]24 grand a year? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. They deserve double that amount for the sh1t they have to put up with.[/p][/quote]You wouldn't get out of bed full stop![/p][/quote]I'll have you know I am up with the Larks these days! a reasonable sort of chap
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11:35am Wed 9 May 12

Blackie-Lawless says...

the plice do a very difficult job often in very difficult and dangerous circumstances, Its easy for people to slate them, but how many would take on the level of responsibility that they do willingly ? The Government is a complete and utter disgrace, they NEED the police to do their jobs they are now expecting them to do that job whilst being under resoursed and payed, The Government now expect officers to work up to 60 years of age,often dealing with Violent people. It is a physical jopb and thouggh i agree that there ought to be a basic level of fitness an officer at 60 is always going to be in a dangerous position dealing with much younger aggresive people. in effect the government are asking less officers to do more work for longer, for less pay and pension, putting less officers on the streets will only serve to make our cities more dangerous places for the public and the officers expected to police them. who do expect to turn up 24/7 if your house is being burgled? if you have been assaulted? threatened? robbed? I fully back the these officers, perhaps those that dont have their own agenda
the plice do a very difficult job often in very difficult and dangerous circumstances, Its easy for people to slate them, but how many would take on the level of responsibility that they do willingly ? The Government is a complete and utter disgrace, they NEED the police to do their jobs they are now expecting them to do that job whilst being under resoursed and payed, The Government now expect officers to work up to 60 years of age,often dealing with Violent people. It is a physical jopb and thouggh i agree that there ought to be a basic level of fitness an officer at 60 is always going to be in a dangerous position dealing with much younger aggresive people. in effect the government are asking less officers to do more work for longer, for less pay and pension, putting less officers on the streets will only serve to make our cities more dangerous places for the public and the officers expected to police them. who do expect to turn up 24/7 if your house is being burgled? if you have been assaulted? threatened? robbed? I fully back the these officers, perhaps those that dont have their own agenda Blackie-Lawless
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11:36am Wed 9 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

Runtothehills wrote:
Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry!
You might change your tune when it's your child who's been raped by a dozen Pakistanis.
[quote][p][bold]Runtothehills[/bold] wrote: Most police officers I know I at the lower end of the qualifications spectrum, so they are doing well in pay terms compared to those on civvy street with similar qualifications. If you don't like it leave, see how you get on in industry![/p][/quote]You might change your tune when it's your child who's been raped by a dozen Pakistanis. a reasonable sort of chap
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2:35pm Wed 9 May 12

britinusa says...

it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot
it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot britinusa
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12:18am Thu 10 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

britinusa wrote:
it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot
Ostensibly it's Democracy (that they're trying to shove down people's throats), but actually it's the Protestant Work Ethic that's behind it all.
[quote][p][bold]britinusa[/bold] wrote: it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot[/p][/quote]Ostensibly it's Democracy (that they're trying to shove down people's throats), but actually it's the Protestant Work Ethic that's behind it all. a reasonable sort of chap
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3:35pm Thu 10 May 12

MisterBD says...

SRS74 wrote:
The Police pay system hasn't changed in over 30 years because it works. Don't change something which isn't broken.
Also, this isn't just about pay. The Government appear to want to change a lot of working conditions making it increasingly difficult for a police officer to a balance a homelife.
In the private sector, other public services, civvy street, however you look at it; the rights and conditions are protected, they also have a right to strike if they are threatened.
All the Police are asking for is fairness.
We currently have a very demoralised police service; despite being absolutely committed to providing the best service that we can, we are struggling to cope as the cuts go deeper and deeper. We have already made a fundamental contribution to help tackle the national debt. We have a two-year pay freeze, we have seen our pension contributions increase and a total of £300 million has been removed from police pay, yet we are being singled out and treated very unfairly by this Government.

As police officers, we do not have industrial rights, we cannot go on strike and we feel we have become a target by a Government determined to drive through ideological and detrimental reforms to the police service that will result in a poorer service for the public.
Nobody forces police officers to stay in the job, dont like it leave
[quote][p][bold]SRS74[/bold] wrote: The Police pay system hasn't changed in over 30 years because it works. Don't change something which isn't broken. Also, this isn't just about pay. The Government appear to want to change a lot of working conditions making it increasingly difficult for a police officer to a balance a homelife. In the private sector, other public services, civvy street, however you look at it; the rights and conditions are protected, they also have a right to strike if they are threatened. All the Police are asking for is fairness. We currently have a very demoralised police service; despite being absolutely committed to providing the best service that we can, we are struggling to cope as the cuts go deeper and deeper. We have already made a fundamental contribution to help tackle the national debt. We have a two-year pay freeze, we have seen our pension contributions increase and a total of £300 million has been removed from police pay, yet we are being singled out and treated very unfairly by this Government. As police officers, we do not have industrial rights, we cannot go on strike and we feel we have become a target by a Government determined to drive through ideological and detrimental reforms to the police service that will result in a poorer service for the public.[/p][/quote]Nobody forces police officers to stay in the job, dont like it leave MisterBD
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3:40pm Thu 10 May 12

MisterBD says...

i hate bradford wrote:
Some of the police i know are bullies. They think they can treat people violently and then have our respect. I have a complaint running with them right now. They don't even know or follow their own guidelines or the law. Yes many are excellent helpful workers among them but there are also many racist nasty bullying lying idiots. instead of trailing down to London they ought to be sent to a class room to learn their own guidelines especially around treatment of vulnerable and mentally ill people alleged of a crime.
one rule for one , then they expect support, they are not interested in real crime only to harrass incoent people and motorist. Having assisted an officer in the past I would now NEVER help any office in distress
[quote][p][bold]i hate bradford[/bold] wrote: Some of the police i know are bullies. They think they can treat people violently and then have our respect. I have a complaint running with them right now. They don't even know or follow their own guidelines or the law. Yes many are excellent helpful workers among them but there are also many racist nasty bullying lying idiots. instead of trailing down to London they ought to be sent to a class room to learn their own guidelines especially around treatment of vulnerable and mentally ill people alleged of a crime.[/p][/quote]one rule for one , then they expect support, they are not interested in real crime only to harrass incoent people and motorist. Having assisted an officer in the past I would now NEVER help any office in distress MisterBD
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3:42pm Thu 10 May 12

MisterBD says...

justjustice wrote:
The police need to be doing their job before they should be paid!

Just last year we had a representative claiming gun crime is at a record law; yet in the last 2 years I've read more gun shot and crime articles than in the previous 10 put together! And just recently there was an article on how they are trying to reduce it.

Like the government, I dont think the police know what is happening on the streets. WE have drug dealers everywhere, youth who know they can get away with vandalism as it'll take a couple hours for an officer to respond! Is it any wonder why there is so much crime these days? And the cuts and demands for higher wages arent helping!

So with crime actually increasing, does any officer deserve their current pay?
After-all remember that incident where a person's shed being obviously vandalised by a human, the officer wrote it up as a "badger incident". This done all in the efforts to help reduce crimes figures! - the underhanded and falsifying documents way of course.
"here's a crime number" is the best they can do !
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: The police need to be doing their job before they should be paid! Just last year we had a representative claiming gun crime is at a record law; yet in the last 2 years I've read more gun shot and crime articles than in the previous 10 put together! And just recently there was an article on how they are trying to reduce it. Like the government, I dont think the police know what is happening on the streets. WE have drug dealers everywhere, youth who know they can get away with vandalism as it'll take a couple hours for an officer to respond! Is it any wonder why there is so much crime these days? And the cuts and demands for higher wages arent helping! So with crime actually increasing, does any officer deserve their current pay? After-all remember that incident where a person's shed being obviously vandalised by a human, the officer wrote it up as a "badger incident". This done all in the efforts to help reduce crimes figures! - the underhanded and falsifying documents way of course.[/p][/quote]"here's a crime number" is the best they can do ! MisterBD
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3:44pm Thu 10 May 12

MisterBD says...

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
britinusa wrote:
it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot
Ostensibly it's Democracy (that they're trying to shove down people's throats), but actually it's the Protestant Work Ethic that's behind it all.
Well if your white in this country they are not interested
[quote][p][bold]a reasonable sort of chap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]britinusa[/bold] wrote: it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot[/p][/quote]Ostensibly it's Democracy (that they're trying to shove down people's throats), but actually it's the Protestant Work Ethic that's behind it all.[/p][/quote]Well if your white in this country they are not interested MisterBD
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4:00pm Thu 10 May 12

MisterBD says...

kylio wrote:
wrote:
Hopefully police will now
prioritise what crimes to deal with instead of walking round streets and standing at crime scenes.
or standing in the takeaway, or showing police cars 's off to people, or giving lifts home to friends from night outs
[quote][p][bold]kylio[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold][/bold] wrote: [/p][/quote]Hopefully police will now prioritise what crimes to deal with instead of walking round streets and standing at crime scenes.[/p][/quote]or standing in the takeaway, or showing police cars 's off to people, or giving lifts home to friends from night outs MisterBD
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6:44pm Thu 10 May 12

eebygum says...

queensbury wrote:
TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS
dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****
Myabe yu cud jone please force yu wud be idol for t job no tha takin p** jus a fort.
[quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****[/p][/quote]Myabe yu cud jone please force yu wud be idol for t job no tha takin p** jus a fort. eebygum
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11:40pm Fri 11 May 12

TirNaNog says...

I've tried to be sympathetic but the memories of those 'Bill' letting themselves be used as Thatchers Private Army in the '80s still rankles I'm afraid. Now it's them in the firing line.

“They feel they have been under a deliberate and sustained attack by the Government and feel the Coalition is seeking to slowly dismantle the police service."

Not nice is it,Officer?
I've tried to be sympathetic but the memories of those 'Bill' letting themselves be used as Thatchers Private Army in the '80s still rankles I'm afraid. Now it's them in the firing line. “They feel they have been under a deliberate and sustained attack by the Government and feel the Coalition is seeking to slowly dismantle the police service." Not nice is it,Officer? TirNaNog
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12:40am Sat 12 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

The entirely vindictive Tory spending cuts are going to turn Bradford into a 'Mad Max' scenario, cutting people's Benefits, wages, pensions, making everyone poorer, whilst cutting back on Police is a recipe for disaster, a crime wave free-for-all. Board-up your windows and lock up your daughters.
The entirely vindictive Tory spending cuts are going to turn Bradford into a 'Mad Max' scenario, cutting people's Benefits, wages, pensions, making everyone poorer, whilst cutting back on Police is a recipe for disaster, a crime wave free-for-all. Board-up your windows and lock up your daughters. a reasonable sort of chap
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12:41am Sat 12 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

TirNaNog wrote:
I've tried to be sympathetic but the memories of those 'Bill' letting themselves be used as Thatchers Private Army in the '80s still rankles I'm afraid. Now it's them in the firing line.

“They feel they have been under a deliberate and sustained attack by the Government and feel the Coalition is seeking to slowly dismantle the police service."

Not nice is it,Officer?
True,those days are hard to forget, and I don't think they'll get much sympathy in South Yorks. !
[quote][p][bold]TirNaNog[/bold] wrote: I've tried to be sympathetic but the memories of those 'Bill' letting themselves be used as Thatchers Private Army in the '80s still rankles I'm afraid. Now it's them in the firing line. “They feel they have been under a deliberate and sustained attack by the Government and feel the Coalition is seeking to slowly dismantle the police service." Not nice is it,Officer?[/p][/quote]True,those days are hard to forget, and I don't think they'll get much sympathy in South Yorks. ! a reasonable sort of chap
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12:45am Sat 12 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

It might help matters if the Police were able to save time and valuable resources that they currently waste in the pursuit and detection (persecution and harassment, depending on your viewpoint) of harmless cannabis growers/users, which is clearly a ridiculous situation. End the failed War On Drugs that was started by Richard Nixon , I kid you not, and save a fortune.
It might help matters if the Police were able to save time and valuable resources that they currently waste in the pursuit and detection (persecution and harassment, depending on your viewpoint) of harmless cannabis growers/users, which is clearly a ridiculous situation. End the failed War On Drugs that was started by Richard Nixon , I kid you not, and save a fortune. a reasonable sort of chap
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12:47am Sat 12 May 12

a reasonable sort of chap says...

britinusa wrote:
it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot
Not at all, simply being topical. My bad.
[quote][p][bold]britinusa[/bold] wrote: it makes me laugh to see how people can turn any conversation into **** bashing. While I agree maybe well deserved at times, however if our government spent less money in trying to shove democracy down others throats and spent that money in fixing what is broken at home, then maybe we would not have situation like this. and for the record the police in UK are awesome. Come and see the US police in action, saying hello can be considered to an dangerous action and get you shot[/p][/quote]Not at all, simply being topical. My bad. a reasonable sort of chap
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2:37am Sat 12 May 12

Mr Perks says...

Never thought I'd live to see the day when a 'Tory' govt. would upset pensioners and the police. Of course there are police officers that shouldn't be doing the job because they are incompetent or unsuited to the position, but on the whole, they do a good job. I've travelled widely and they are far superior to other police forces I've encountered across the world, believe me.

I could kind of understand these public sector cuts if this was solely a Tory govt. I thought the Lib-Dems would temper some of the Tories more rampantly right wing policies, seems not! By allowing this to happen, the Lib-Dems are signing their own death warrant at the next election.

Make no mistake, ALL these attacks on the Public Sector are ideologically driven. The Tories desperately want to privatise everything they can. The last Labour govt. wasn't perfect, at least they tried to improve the public sector after it was decimated by years of Conservative mis-rule, especially in the North.

Could anyone who blames the previous govt for this financial mess please explain why almost every other developed country in the world finds itself in the same situation?

If, like me, you are an 'average' person who relies on the NHS to treat your family when they are ill, or sends your kids to a state school for an education, or depends on the police for some degree of security. If so, then please make sure this govt. only serves one term and vote them out at the earliest opportunity, which may be sooner than you think. I'm afraid 'we are not all in this together', Cameron et al are from an elite who no nothing about how most people live, this is why they don't know or care about the damage that they are doing to the vast majority of people in this country!
Never thought I'd live to see the day when a 'Tory' govt. would upset pensioners and the police. Of course there are police officers that shouldn't be doing the job because they are incompetent or unsuited to the position, but on the whole, they do a good job. I've travelled widely and they are far superior to other police forces I've encountered across the world, believe me. I could kind of understand these public sector cuts if this was solely a Tory govt. I thought the Lib-Dems would temper some of the Tories more rampantly right wing policies, seems not! By allowing this to happen, the Lib-Dems are signing their own death warrant at the next election. Make no mistake, ALL these attacks on the Public Sector are ideologically driven. The Tories desperately want to privatise everything they can. The last Labour govt. wasn't perfect, at least they tried to improve the public sector after it was decimated by years of Conservative mis-rule, especially in the North. Could anyone who blames the previous govt for this financial mess please explain why almost every other developed country in the world finds itself in the same situation? If, like me, you are an 'average' person who relies on the NHS to treat your family when they are ill, or sends your kids to a state school for an education, or depends on the police for some degree of security. If so, then please make sure this govt. only serves one term and vote them out at the earliest opportunity, which may be sooner than you think. I'm afraid 'we are not all in this together', Cameron et al are from an elite who no nothing about how most people live, this is why they don't know or care about the damage that they are doing to the vast majority of people in this country! Mr Perks
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12:10pm Sat 12 May 12

flogem says...

eebygum wrote:
queensbury wrote: TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****
Myabe yu cud jone please force yu wud be idol for t job no tha takin p** jus a fort.
Its like a script from an Ali G film
[quote][p][bold]eebygum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****[/p][/quote]Myabe yu cud jone please force yu wud be idol for t job no tha takin p** jus a fort.[/p][/quote]Its like a script from an Ali G film flogem
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7:26pm Sat 12 May 12

Huneybunch says...

ertnec wrote:
I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.
The police officers that are going to London from this area are on days off, so using their annual leave. I think some of you should try being an officer for a week and see if you think that they are paid too much. How do you think you would handle having to deal with someone that has been raped or a child that has been abused. Officers have a lot to contend with in the job, and its not easy for them to switch off, plus a day off can be called off if a person has disappeared and sometimes its a body that is found. The hours that they put in aswell after all its not a nine to five, Mon to Fri job.
[quote][p][bold]ertnec[/bold] wrote: I do beleave Police Officers deserve there pay, as there are called into deal with rioters, people with fire arms, dangerous idiots and abuse from Drunken Prats. What I don't agree with is people like Solictors and judges who get the pay there get for getting people off longer sentences after the Police have done there job protecting the Community. What needs looking at is the officers and Pcso's who waste time sitting in Cafes and other places drinking coffee instead of getting on with the job there paid for. Are all these officers who are going down to Londan getting paid and what about Bradford when there not here.[/p][/quote]The police officers that are going to London from this area are on days off, so using their annual leave. I think some of you should try being an officer for a week and see if you think that they are paid too much. How do you think you would handle having to deal with someone that has been raped or a child that has been abused. Officers have a lot to contend with in the job, and its not easy for them to switch off, plus a day off can be called off if a person has disappeared and sometimes its a body that is found. The hours that they put in aswell after all its not a nine to five, Mon to Fri job. Huneybunch
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9:07pm Sat 12 May 12

eebygum says...

flogem wrote:
eebygum wrote:
queensbury wrote: TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****
Myabe yu cud jone please force yu wud be idol for t job no tha takin p** jus a fort.
Its like a script from an Ali G film
respec to de offisers da du a gr8 job init. an al dat. dem batty boys r gittin all wurked up about servin er majesti's guvnmant.
[quote][p][bold]flogem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eebygum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]queensbury[/bold] wrote: TO FLOGEM SAYS READ THIS dear sir just becos im too good at speeilg dos make me a fool or a lesr person then you or next man you must have a very sad life if that all do to take the pi-- out peopal i would have you know i have not this worry me i have 2 very big and lage firms deixleiyer is sumthig i help you been roude you can you never know you my have child that might need youer help will you bee rud and take the ****[/p][/quote]Myabe yu cud jone please force yu wud be idol for t job no tha takin p** jus a fort.[/p][/quote]Its like a script from an Ali G film[/p][/quote]respec to de offisers da du a gr8 job init. an al dat. dem batty boys r gittin all wurked up about servin er majesti's guvnmant. eebygum
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9:17pm Sat 12 May 12

eebygum says...

No sympathy with them they acted as Thatchers private army with the miners. Cost the miners a lot more than they will ever lose.At least it's only a reduced pension and most of them made redundant will get a pay off. Lots of miners didn't get owt. They were party to the crushing of the unions, Now they want representation Karma. The word Coal-ilition very apt.
No sympathy with them they acted as Thatchers private army with the miners. Cost the miners a lot more than they will ever lose.At least it's only a reduced pension and most of them made redundant will get a pay off. Lots of miners didn't get owt. They were party to the crushing of the unions, Now they want representation Karma. The word Coal-ilition very apt. eebygum
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