VIDEO: Occupy Bradford demonstrators move off Centenary Square after court order (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

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  Aunty Capitalist wrote:
  

  Albion. wrote:
  

  Aunty Capitalist wrote:
  

  Albion. wrote:
  

  cormon wrote:
  OK Albion, then the alternative is for ordinary people's lives to be ordered, governed and prescribed by the economic machine, with what we have considered to be politics consigned to a sideshow. If that satisfies, then fine, but many people are totally unaware of this 30 year old orthodoxy which has made voting in elections a joke.
  Scaremongering and engendering fear and anxiety is exactly what we might expect from supporters of the system - it's not about any isms or ologies, it's a space in which people who have been taken for a ride have the opportunity to review our economic and political systems before we see the kind of mayhem being experienced in the Arab world.
  The blame for the collapse of everyone's notion of security, stability and well being does not lie with ordinary people; it lies with our blatant uncritical acceptance of a failed 30 year old experiment.
  We have been told that cuts and savings must be made because that's all that conventional politics can do, wedded as it is to the economic system we've got. Your post does not make any reference to Gates' plea for tax on the rich, or for sensible policies to tax Banking transactions. Why should a single person in the uk be able to make £2 billion personal wealth in a two year transaction and receive a knighthood when the consequences are that ordinary people work longer hours for less pay and are strangled by debts that they must incur to survive? Why is it when supporters of the orthodoxy adopt a perspective, the focus is always on the defenceless easy targeted unemployed, homeless and bereft, and never on the powerful, greedy and ultra rich?
  What happens in Greece will be a result of what Greek people decide - for good or ill, they will be able to affirm that the consequences are based upon some form of democratic decision making. The same cannot be said for us.

  In Greece opportunity will be stifled whatever decision is made. Here I started work at 15 and was wealthy enough to retire at 45, I can remember at one time leaving home with all my possessions in a bag on my back but I still did OK. I didn't have parental or outside help I just had me! Everyone else has a similar or better opportunity than I did and It's up to them to take it, It's still possible today.
  Lazy moaners going from one protest after another are actually the enemy of this country and we would be better off without them.
  Make of that what you will!

  You retired at just 45 ? How lazy is that?
  You had another 20+ years work in you! Idle buggger.

  The thing is that I had earned it and have never received benefits, It also gave employment to someone else.

  You earned it? So presumably it's ok for rich people to retire early, but what about the rest of us? Why can't everyone retire at 45 (just like they do in Greece)? One law for you and another for the rest? And if work is so great how come you wanted to retire anyway? Isn't work supposed to be good for you? Sounds like hypocrisy to me. Admit it, you hated work as much as everyone else, and couldn't wait to jack it in as soon as possible. Bone idle?

  Because as I said "I earned it", I started with nothing and everyone else has the same chance, if they are too thick or lazy to to take it that isn't my fault. I didn't particularly like work but I stuck to it for 30yrs and owned two other businesses besides, work might well be good for some people but I had a lifelong illness which was making it difficult.
  As for as I'm concerned people should be able to spend their money any way that they like as long as they have enough.
  You appear to have a chip on your shoulder about anyone who has made a success of things."
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