Bradford tops list of places people least want to visit (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Bradford tops list of places people least want to visit
9:56am Friday 19th March 2010 in
City leaders have hit back after Bradford was branded in a survey today as the place city travellers least wanted to visit due to it being “dangerous, ugly and boring”.
The findings, from a poll of 5,000 people, have been branded as “poppycock” by Dale Smith, the deputy leader of Bradford Council.
The district’s tourism chief, Jane Glaister, pointed to the fact that the National Media Museum is the most visited museum outside of London and Bradford is Unesco’s City of Film. And Councillor Anne Hawkesworth, the Council’s executive member for environment and culture, challenged people to come to Bradford to see for themselves what the city has to offer.
Coun Smith said: “I have said before that I find the Bradford district a very safe place to live.
“There are many vibrant and magical spots – I was at the Alhambra the other week and it was packed.
“Clearly people are very ready to come into the city centre and do so in great numbers.”
Coun Hawkesworth said: “There are fantastic places in the Bradford district and people should really come and see them rather than reciting the down-beat stories that people tend to repeat.”
Other towns and cities in the least-attractive to visitors list were Wakefield – said to be “dull and depressing” – St David’s in Wales, Wells in Somerset and Ripon, North Yorkshire.
London led the list of the most-visited cities ahead of Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh and York.
Shakila Ahmed, of Travelodge, conceded that its survey’s findings could be based on people’s misconceptions about places. She said: “We live in a world of misconceptions, and often don’t realise it. A significant proportion of the images of cities we have in our minds may be biased, out-of-date and not in tune with reality.”
Comments(94)
Moon on a stick
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10:09am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Clearly he's not read the T and A in the last week either. Shooting, stabbings, murder, nah that's not dangerous.
Windyass
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10:13am Fri 19 Mar 10
“There are many vibrant and magical spots – I was at the Alhambra the other week and it was packed."
Lloyds bar is packed at the weekend. What is your point?
Still they wish to pull down the Odeon, instead of redeveloping this great building. It is the Sibling building to the Alhambra.
The poll is correct. Face up this fact Cllr Smith and your fellow useless colleagues. Learn from it, and make this City worth living in, never mind worth visiting.
Mekon
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10:36am Fri 19 Mar 10
peedoffratepayer
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10:38am Fri 19 Mar 10
Rambo
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10:50am Fri 19 Mar 10
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He should take his head out of his ar$e and have a look around.
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Why is bradford ugly? because they knocked most of the Victorian buildings down in the 60s, replaced them with concrete blocks that have since been reduced to rubble.
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Boring? 1/2 the city centre destroyed in 10 years, nightlife a fraction of what it used to be.
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Dangerous - the recent spike in violent attacks/murders would indicate its on the rise, particulary knife crime.
Marco Polio
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11:06am Fri 19 Mar 10
Rambo wrote:Couldn't agree more, Rambo. The council need to stop looking at Bradford as some big multicultural utopia and realise the cesspool it is needs cleaning up. The 60s buildings are awful, and it doesn't help the cathedral is hidden from view.
This is from the opinions of 5,000 people. And one councillor who doesn't even live in the area calls it "poppycock"? . He should take his head out of his ar$e and have a look around. . Why is bradford ugly? because they knocked most of the Victorian buildings down in the 60s, replaced them with concrete blocks that have since been reduced to rubble. . Boring? 1/2 the city centre destroyed in 10 years, nightlife a fraction of what it used to be. . Dangerous - the recent spike in violent attacks/murders would indicate its on the rise, particulary knife crime.
No-one goes out in the city centre anymore because of all the percieved trouble especially around Ivegate area.
And as you say the recent rise in, sometimes very, violent crime will undoubtably have a massive effect on perceptions of Bradford. Instead of having 'park in the heart' how about the council use the money to open yoth centres and such, where young people can go, instead of roaming the streets, and help the police tackle anti-social behavior.
Joedavid
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11:17am Fri 19 Mar 10
One thing I will say why all these planning applications for hotels being passed which will lead to more empty beds?
peanut4
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11:31am Fri 19 Mar 10
1. VIDEO: Boy, 15, badly injured in street attack in Bradford
2. Third man held over Bradford stabbing
3. Shopping centre looks 'absolute disgrace'
4. Brandon leaves Bantams
5. 22-year-old charged with murdering Bradford teenager Mohammed Rayaib
6. Man, 23, suffers fractured skull in Cleckheaton attack
7. Second man arrested over murder of Bradford teenager
8. Lovers get 20 years for killing man, 60
9. Father's plea for end to knife crime as son stabbed
10. Student hit car in dangerous manoeuvre
Moon on a stick
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11:51am Fri 19 Mar 10
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The decline especially in the city centre has been a week on week reported situation from shops closing, to assaults, damage and so on.
Mekon
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11:51am Fri 19 Mar 10
peanut4 wrote:God how depressing, taxi....
I can't agree with the claims. But just look at the 10 most read stories right now and you get the idea why people might just jump to this conclusion.
1. VIDEO: Boy, 15, badly injured in street attack in Bradford
2. Third man held over Bradford stabbing
3. Shopping centre looks 'absolute disgrace'
4. Brandon leaves Bantams
5. 22-year-old charged with murdering Bradford teenager Mohammed Rayaib
6. Man, 23, suffers fractured skull in Cleckheaton attack
7. Second man arrested over murder of Bradford teenager
8. Lovers get 20 years for killing man, 60
9. Father's plea for end to knife crime as son stabbed
10. Student hit car in dangerous manoeuvre
Leighann
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12:13pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Rambo
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12:17pm Fri 19 Mar 10
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Actions speak louder than words. And we aren't seeing much action in Bradford, except for the park. Which I'm sure all the out of work people will welcome.
ItchyBungle
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12:17pm Fri 19 Mar 10
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Come on Jane, the majority of the visitors to the National Media Museum fall in to the same category as they have done for years - people who have loads of time and no money and can't think of anything better to do! And since the re-vamp they now have games so that kids who can't afford xboxes can now spend hours there instead!
claytonian
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12:25pm Fri 19 Mar 10
stiflers mom
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12:52pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ca1igu1a@Bradford
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12:55pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Now this...Bradford has certainly Bounced Back!
FCUK THE UK
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1:02pm Fri 19 Mar 10
puddingandpi
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1:35pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Bradford is ugly. I don't know about dangerous but it's certainly a threatening place.
Stan Dandyliver
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2:01pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Donkey's years of leftist propoganda and politically correct subversion have left the city under the 'actual' control of the lowest forms of life imaginable, as opposed to the 'perceived' control (if only perceived by them) of the police and council.
The city sits in a natural bowl, or 'pot'.
It needs flushing.
scotty1970
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2:23pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Guiseley Gents
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2:46pm Fri 19 Mar 10
rely knife crime. Look at the Leeds paper yesterday as an example!!!
The big issue is the councillors don't wish to confront some of the issues and the other one is how negative a lot of the local population are towards the city. Yes, keeping talking it down if you wish but if you do so you are as bad as the councillors who keeping talking it up. I used to go to Liverpool three times a week in the 90's it had far bigger issues (Toxteth riots, unemployment, high crime) than Bradford......It still has these issues but many more positive stories emerge now after strong positive leadership and investment. Over to you leader of the Council !!
fish'n'chips
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3:04pm Fri 19 Mar 10
at one time i used to stick up for Bradford when i worked in Leeds back in the 80's but i am ashamed to say i'm from Bradford nowdays it just leads into being humiliated about our non existent shopping centre our empty shops our abundance of mosques and undesirable scrounging population who are happy to sit on thier arses and claim all my council tax and earnings. If i could afford to leave and find work elsewhere i would without a doubt.
Cunni88
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3:32pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Fragile
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3:55pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Even if the council refute the findings of this survey they can't fail to acknowledge that there is at very least an image problem, perhaps this could be to do with the giant rubble pit at one end of the city centre, or maybe the demolition sight at the other. Incidently the newly demolished police head quaters has left a fantastic view of the once magnificent Odeon sadly neglected, mouldering on a prime city centre site.
of course the surveys findings may just refer to how people perceive Travelodges which I've alwys found dangerous, ugly and boring.
Up with the partridge
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4:25pm Fri 19 Mar 10
FIGHT FOR THE PLACE!!!
johninbradford
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4:29pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Im just glad im leaving the place for good next week.
And I wont be returning, ever.
Avro
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4:34pm Fri 19 Mar 10
born n bred
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4:42pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Bradford is a complete dump, it needs spraying with izal. Just seen The Clarke is up for lease, along with the pub next to it closed, what is there for anybodies future here.
I love Leeds though
Tyke69
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5:08pm Fri 19 Mar 10
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They've got Holmfirth down at number 5 in the top places to visit in Bradford. Eh?!! Holmfirth is near Huddersfield! No mention of the World Heritage Site of Saltaire. I'm a bit concerned that they think the Mumtaz restaurant is the best place to visit in Bradford! The report also has Wells at number 7 in the list of no-go cities, when I went there it was full of tourists and Wells Cathedral has got to be one of the most beautiful in the country. I don't think the authors of this report or the people they interviewed actually know what they are talking about.
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That being said, I agree that Bradford city centre is a complete eyesore and it's not a safe place to go anymore, but venture out of the city centre and there are some interesting places to visit.
Keighley Exile
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5:09pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Stilladriver
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5:30pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Keighley Exile wrote:I presume you'd rather be part of "Greater Leeds"? But that wouldn't suit everybody either.
Bradford councillors always respond to this kind of thing by banging on about "the Bradford district", usually claiming that Haworth for example is "in Bradford" and citing it as an example of somwhere that's picturesque and attracts tourists. They miss the point. The actual city of Bradford itself is the problem. Yes, a lot of the wider district is rural and there are many decent places but Bradford itself is a dump. How I wish my own home town wasn't tarred with the Bradford brush - why oh why did they have to name the metropolitan district "Bradford" in 1974 when that grim, dirty city only occupies one end of it? Surely they could have come up with something better to reflect the fact that Shipley, Bingley, Keighley, Ilkley etc are all towns in their own right and not Bradford at all.
But it's no use Councillor's dismissing the report as poppy ****! I do think that it is unfair, and that a lot of those surveyed have never seen the better parts of Bradford. (A small example is the Waterstones store in the Wool Exchange buiding, which I think is a great use for the buiding and shows it off well)
But having said that, this survey is the way that Bradford is perceived by people staying at Travelodges who have presumably visited Bradford. Something needs to be done about that perception.
In addition, looking at other comments on this article shows that many resedents actually agree with this perception! Instead of dismissing the report, it is time that the Councillors considered the underlying problems.
Rocky Horror
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6:37pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Michael Manus
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6:41pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Kate34
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6:51pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Rocky Horror
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6:56pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Kate34
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7:19pm Fri 19 Mar 10
klydan
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7:51pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Partly by being too PC and thinking about themselves and expenses than the electors and the environment.
Keighley Exile
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8:05pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Stilladriver wrote:??? "I presume you'd rather be part part of Greater Leeds". Er - No. Allow me to explain. What I do think is that when they were deciding on a name for the newly-created metropolitan district back in the early 70s, they could have come up with something more appropriate than "Bradford", considering that the district contains several other places which are towns in their own right, most notably Keighley which is not a small place and is by no means simply a suburb of Bradford. If you look at a map of the district, you can see that Bradford occupies only the south-eastern corner of it, the rest is mainly rural heading out beyond Shipley to Bingley & Keighley. The districts of Calderdale and Kirklees, created at the same time, were not simply named "Halifax" and "Huddersfield" - I believe Bradford should have been differently named along those lines. "Bradford & Airedale" would suit me, or "Bradford, Aire & Wharfe" if Ilkley folk felt left out by that first suggestion. I never ever say I'm from Bradford because, quite simply put, I'm not - I'm from Keighley - a different, totally separate place. Keighley might not be that pretty either but it ain't Bradford.
Keighley Exile wrote: Bradford councillors always respond to this kind of thing by banging on about "the Bradford district", usually claiming that Haworth for example is "in Bradford" and citing it as an example of somwhere that's picturesque and attracts tourists. They miss the point. The actual city of Bradford itself is the problem. Yes, a lot of the wider district is rural and there are many decent places but Bradford itself is a dump. How I wish my own home town wasn't tarred with the Bradford brush - why oh why did they have to name the metropolitan district "Bradford" in 1974 when that grim, dirty city only occupies one end of it? Surely they could have come up with something better to reflect the fact that Shipley, Bingley, Keighley, Ilkley etc are all towns in their own right and not Bradford at all.I presume you'd rather be part of "Greater Leeds"? But that wouldn't suit everybody either. But it's no use Councillor's dismissing the report as poppy ****! I do think that it is unfair, and that a lot of those surveyed have never seen the better parts of Bradford. (A small example is the Waterstones store in the Wool Exchange buiding, which I think is a great use for the buiding and shows it off well) But having said that, this survey is the way that Bradford is perceived by people staying at Travelodges who have presumably visited Bradford. Something needs to be done about that perception. In addition, looking at other comments on this article shows that many resedents actually agree with this perception! Instead of dismissing the report, it is time that the Councillors considered the underlying problems.
ravacity
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9:12pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Up with the partridge wrote:listen partridge stop wasting your time putting the boot in to my city i still live here,still love it,and wiil always be proud to be from bradford no matter what the state the citys in surely you must have better things to do in cosmopolitan norwich than winge like a norfolk turkey in december,bootiful
Bradford is a complete and total dump and as someone who was born there, I have every right to say it. The councils of all persuasions have had their heads in the sand (or worse) for years. The place has been collonised as a result of catastrophic immigration. Bradford is a hotbed of latent racism. The traditional white population of Bradford hate what has happened to their once loved City which is why they sound off in this forum. Places like Bradford Moor, Thornbury, Laisterdyke, which have always been working class areas in the main, used to be smart and proud. The lax policies of politicians have allowed these places to become ghetto-like. Scruffy shops, pavements littered like some Islamabad bazaar, give rise to this ill feeling. Forget stupid comments about The Alhambra. Yes it's a fine theatre but it attracts people from beyond Bradford because there is no 'proper' professional theatre in Ilkley, Bingley, Skipton and other places. Huddersfield isn't a total dump nor is Halifax so it is infuriating that Bradford is a bloody disgrace. It is not the fault of second or third generation Asians, it is actually the fault of the first generation and the politicians who have allowed this to happen. Leamington Spa has a high Asian population and is a dream of a place. Their new Siikh Temple is the size of St Paul's and cost £12m, you don't see any rubbish on the streets there. Bradford needs a root and branch reform and the start should be the cleaning up of the areas mentioned above. This would at least start to get the message across that the council means business and will stop at nothing to improve the place. Lakes, parks and media museums is not going to improve matters. You that still live there can. With support from the T&A (fat chance with Austin sit on my jacksy Clark as Editor) you should put up a raft of "Improve Bradford" candidates. Forget Tory, Labour or Lib Dem, giving local councillors these meaningless affiliations is a waste of time. FIGHT FOR THE PLACE!!!
allannicho
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9:21pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Off licence shops were hard to get in the past,
but now you can open up a terrace house and get a licence.
Why did the Council allow people to
start putting their goods on the pavement? it was not allowed pre 1970. It brings the area down making the roads and streets look like downtown Lahore.
yezboss
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9:25pm Fri 19 Mar 10
They should ALL hang their heads in shame, every one of them.
How they can take their salaries without guilt I know not. Inept and inadequate is too mild a description.
Neglectful and shameful is also too kind. I view them all with contempt.
An absolute disgrace!
ravacity
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9:25pm Fri 19 Mar 10
allannicho wrote:how do yo know what lahore looks like allannicho
Partridge in Norwich you are spot on! Off licence shops were hard to get in the past, but now you can open up a terrace house and get a licence. Why did the Council allow people to start putting their goods on the pavement? it was not allowed pre 1970. It brings the area down making the roads and streets look like downtown Lahore.
Peterrobertshaw
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9:45pm Fri 19 Mar 10
The Bradford taxpayers and voters need to get these destructive , incompetent councillors out. I've visited Detroit - Americas most deprived city - on a business trip and
100% believe Bradford is the in the same boat.
simondav
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9:58pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Ca1igu1a@Bradford
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10:03pm Fri 19 Mar 10
ravacity wrote:Possibly ravacity maybe by living in Bradford?
allannicho wrote:how do yo know what lahore looks like allannicho
Partridge in Norwich you are spot on! Off licence shops were hard to get in the past, but now you can open up a terrace house and get a licence. Why did the Council allow people to start putting their goods on the pavement? it was not allowed pre 1970. It brings the area down making the roads and streets look like downtown Lahore.
footysnoteverythin
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10:04pm Fri 19 Mar 10
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Bradford is like anywhere else, good n'bad places, good n' bad people, stop doing it down-and the survey is hardly scientific for gods sake. Glass half full please.
simondav
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10:26pm Fri 19 Mar 10
In 1643 the first ghost was sighted at Bolling Hall. The head of the Royalist army, the Earl of Newcastle (who was based there) felt his bedclothes being pulled away from him and saw the ghost of a lady wringing her hands and saying 'pity poor Bradford'. As a result he changed his orders from his troops to kill all in Bradford to only kill those who offered armed resistance. As a result only 10 people were recorded as being killed in the siege.
sylvia111
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10:39pm Fri 19 Mar 10
Schoey100
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1:53am Sat 20 Mar 10
It makes you wonder what world these councillors live in...cos it certainly ain't ours!
Old Bald Eagle
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8:34am Sat 20 Mar 10
However, the fact that they have highlighted the ugly allegation and ignored the justifiable dangerous allegation tells its own story!
shipley footballers
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10:36am Sat 20 Mar 10
TE city centre trader.
Joedavid
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11:29am Sat 20 Mar 10
We in fact had same bus and driver we were there such a short time.
Dave_Smithwell
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11:39am Sat 20 Mar 10
Dave_Smithwell
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11:41am Sat 20 Mar 10
shipley footballers wrote:You say : "Every other person appeared to have a physical or mental disability. if not they were dressed as *ninjas*."
Had the misfortune to have to go through the city centre on two occasions last week. it reminded me of groundhog day or a social experiment gone wrong. Every other person appeared to have a physical or mental disability. if not they were dressed as ninjas. or playing at being lucky lucky men trying to sell me a sim card which he explained ,once i gave him 5 pounds would magic into into one worth 20 pounds. I was the only person wearing a suit, this was 9a.m.ish. I stood out like a sore thumb. I felt threatened,i thought i was going to be mugged at any moment. To be honest the only reason i was wearing a suit is that i was in court for these two days. Make no mistake this once great city centre is broken/shattered beyond repair.Stay away from the town centre do not support it in anyway whatsoever.By supporting financially you are paying/supporting /keeping in employment the gangsters in the town hall in buisness.GET RID OF THESE PEOPLE.DO NOT SUPPORT THE TOWN CENTRE. AFTER ALL YOU CANNOT CLEAN WINDOWS WITH A SHOVEL. Sincere apologies to anyone mentally or physically disabled who may be offended by this posting, also same to any small independant/LEGITIMA
TE city centre trader.
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Another *Islamophobe* harkens the board... {rolleyes}
FCUK THE UK
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11:49am Sat 20 Mar 10
Get real toss@r
Up with the partridge
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1:28pm Sat 20 Mar 10
ravacity wrote:Open your eyes not your mouth - wally
Up with the partridge wrote: Bradford is a complete and total dump and as someone who was born there, I have every right to say it. The councils of all persuasions have had their heads in the sand (or worse) for years. The place has been collonised as a result of catastrophic immigration. Bradford is a hotbed of latent racism. The traditional white population of Bradford hate what has happened to their once loved City which is why they sound off in this forum. Places like Bradford Moor, Thornbury, Laisterdyke, which have always been working class areas in the main, used to be smart and proud. The lax policies of politicians have allowed these places to become ghetto-like. Scruffy shops, pavements littered like some Islamabad bazaar, give rise to this ill feeling. Forget stupid comments about The Alhambra. Yes it's a fine theatre but it attracts people from beyond Bradford because there is no 'proper' professional theatre in Ilkley, Bingley, Skipton and other places. Huddersfield isn't a total dump nor is Halifax so it is infuriating that Bradford is a bloody disgrace. It is not the fault of second or third generation Asians, it is actually the fault of the first generation and the politicians who have allowed this to happen. Leamington Spa has a high Asian population and is a dream of a place. Their new Siikh Temple is the size of St Paul's and cost £12m, you don't see any rubbish on the streets there. Bradford needs a root and branch reform and the start should be the cleaning up of the areas mentioned above. This would at least start to get the message across that the council means business and will stop at nothing to improve the place. Lakes, parks and media museums is not going to improve matters. You that still live there can. With support from the T&A (fat chance with Austin sit on my jacksy Clark as Editor) you should put up a raft of "Improve Bradford" candidates. Forget Tory, Labour or Lib Dem, giving local councillors these meaningless affiliations is a waste of time. FIGHT FOR THE PLACE!!!listen partridge stop wasting your time putting the boot in to my city i still live here,still love it,and wiil always be proud to be from bradford no matter what the state the citys in surely you must have better things to do in cosmopolitan norwich than winge like a norfolk turkey in december,bootiful
Dave_Smithwell
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3:29pm Sat 20 Mar 10
FCUK THE UK wrote:And another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
Islamophobe??? or just a fact??
Get real toss@r
Stan Dandyliver
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3:43pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Dave_Smithwell wrote:And another turncoat coward on the board...-shouldn't you be blowing up innocents in Afghanistan?
FCUK THE UK wrote: Islamophobe??? or just a fact?? Get real toss@rAnd another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
Peter Hardacre
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6:35pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Stan Dandyliver wrote:He doesn't need to be blowing up innocents in Afghanistan our military is doing a pretty fine job blowing them up, (lightbulb!) now I know where my country's money is being spent!
Dave_Smithwell wrote:And another turncoat coward on the board...-shouldn't you be blowing up innocents in Afghanistan?FCUK THE UK wrote: Islamophobe??? or just a fact?? Get real toss@rAnd another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
Up with the partridge
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7:27pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Dave_Smithwell wrote:Why is he a racist?
FCUK THE UK wrote: Islamophobe??? or just a fact?? Get real toss@rAnd another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
Dave_Smithwell
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9:34pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Up with the partridge wrote:Him (and his other BNP mate) refer to veiled Muslim women as 'ninjas'.
Dave_Smithwell wrote:Why is he a racist?
FCUK THE UK wrote: Islamophobe??? or just a fact?? Get real toss@rAnd another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
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That's rather telling of what kind of vile individuals we have on this board (and in the City).
Up with the partridge
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10:03pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Dave_Smithwell wrote:Yes you are right, Bradford can do without such scum, sadly it has a habit of floating to the top
Up with the partridge wrote:Him (and his other BNP mate) refer to veiled Muslim women as 'ninjas'. . That's rather telling of what kind of vile individuals we have on this board (and in the City).Dave_Smithwell wrote:Why is he a racist?FCUK THE UK wrote: Islamophobe??? or just a fact?? Get real toss@rAnd another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
Stan Dandyliver
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10:12pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Peter Hardacre wrote:When heroic Islamic freedom fighters are hiding among women and children it is inevitable that there will be civilian casualties.
Stan Dandyliver wrote:He doesn't need to be blowing up innocents in Afghanistan our military is doing a pretty fine job blowing them up, (lightbulb!) now I know where my country's money is being spent!Dave_Smithwell wrote:And another turncoat coward on the board...-shouldn't you be blowing up innocents in Afghanistan?FCUK THE UK wrote: Islamophobe??? or just a fact?? Get real toss@rAnd another idiot racist on the board... - shouldn't you be on the BNP forum ?
When our soldiers are sacrificing their lives to disarm roadside IED's that are used to destroy military and civilian lives, I'd say the that we have nothing to apologise for.
Impartial charities that are trying to provide aid and support for the innocent are being targetted by Islamic heroes who fear that the people might realise the West is not as bad as they have been brainwashed to believe.
'Your' money, pittance that it is, is being spent so that you and the other gutter-snipes on here can continue to spout your treacherous comments. Rejoice!
chatty
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10:22pm Sat 20 Mar 10
It's 10 years since i last went to Bradford city centre, says it all !Oh and allannicho - Lahore is 100 times better than Bradford !
shipley footballers
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10:30pm Sat 20 Mar 10
shipley footballers
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10:44pm Sat 20 Mar 10
basil fawlty
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12:25am Sun 21 Mar 10
shipley footballers
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1:49am Sun 21 Mar 10
albion
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6:40am Sun 21 Mar 10
chatty wrote:So is Shadrach Dingles lavatory.
Boycott the city centre, once our proud council who do not live anywhere near inner city Bradford realise Bradford is not the "dream" are booted out, we can set about building up this once beautiful ( still is in some parts ) city with Victorian \ Gothic style buildings to be proud of and not silly gimmicks !
It's 10 years since i last went to Bradford city centre, says it all !Oh and allannicho - Lahore is 100 times better than Bradford !
Up with the partridge
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8:51am Sun 21 Mar 10
shipley footballers wrote:I am happy to apologise for my comment
Smithwell, Partridge, open your eyes, Cowards, Mice of Men. Where do i refer to vieled Muslim Women as ninjas
Up with the partridge
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8:52am Sun 21 Mar 10
albion wrote:Who is Shadrach Dingle please?
chatty wrote: Boycott the city centre, once our proud council who do not live anywhere near inner city Bradford realise Bradford is not the "dream" are booted out, we can set about building up this once beautiful ( still is in some parts ) city with Victorian \ Gothic style buildings to be proud of and not silly gimmicks ! It's 10 years since i last went to Bradford city centre, says it all !Oh and allannicho - Lahore is 100 times better than Bradford !So is Shadrach Dingles lavatory.
albion
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11:19am Sun 21 Mar 10
Up with the partridge wrote:Head of the councils think tank.
albion wrote:Who is Shadrach Dingle please?
chatty wrote: Boycott the city centre, once our proud council who do not live anywhere near inner city Bradford realise Bradford is not the "dream" are booted out, we can set about building up this once beautiful ( still is in some parts ) city with Victorian \ Gothic style buildings to be proud of and not silly gimmicks ! It's 10 years since i last went to Bradford city centre, says it all !Oh and allannicho - Lahore is 100 times better than Bradford !So is Shadrach Dingles lavatory.
Up with the partridge
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12:06pm Sun 21 Mar 10
albion wrote:Ah I see, never heard of him but there again, I don't see why I should have. I didn't know they had a think tank
Up with the partridge wrote:Head of the councils think tank.albion wrote:Who is Shadrach Dingle please?chatty wrote: Boycott the city centre, once our proud council who do not live anywhere near inner city Bradford realise Bradford is not the "dream" are booted out, we can set about building up this once beautiful ( still is in some parts ) city with Victorian \ Gothic style buildings to be proud of and not silly gimmicks ! It's 10 years since i last went to Bradford city centre, says it all !Oh and allannicho - Lahore is 100 times better than Bradford !So is Shadrach Dingles lavatory.
richmondbull
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3:35pm Sun 21 Mar 10
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denis court
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5:01pm Sun 21 Mar 10
Up with the partridge
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6:14pm Sun 21 Mar 10
richmondbull wrote:You are absolutely right, thsi is why Bradford is sich a mess, as I said above, without fear or favour the council should clean the place up, sweep all the debris off the streets outside shops which often block the pavements and generally enforce the law which is there to be obeyed by all. This is exactly why the evil BNP can flourish, because people see councils appearing to favour those who are from the Indian sub-continent and allowing them to get a way with anything they please.
mate its because of the PC jokers the country and this city are in the state its in!!anything you post critical of asians on here will have you branded a BNP supporting racist,you really cant say anything its laughable,you can say what you like about the irish,poles etc...but say anything critical and your condemed....The asians are a big problem in this city,be it drug dealing and the violent crimes that come with,many of them are a drain on the tax payer some cannot even speak english after been here 30 or 40 years!!there are many many reasons Bradford is in the state its in one thing for sure multicultureism hasnt helped esp when it comes to huge numbers of migrants from Pakistan/bangledesh. .
lumpylicious
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9:41pm Sun 21 Mar 10
bredandbuttered
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10:03pm Sun 21 Mar 10
lumpylicious wrote:I think you have an average opinion there, one that would come out in a poll.
I am Bradford born & bred. I have lived in Bingley for the last 3yrs & am in my early 30's. I work in Bfd but really, really don't like the place anymore. I used to be an advocate for my City & proud of it, but am now embarrassed by the decay. Dirty & scruffy it is. Racial tension like a fog that is now so thick, you can't see your hand in front of your face anymore. Ground zero at the end of Market St, big burgundy boards surrounding it, in a pathetic attempt to hide the mess. So disgustingly sad. To be totally honest, the only place that i can spend anytime in, out of choice, is Blues Hair Workshop on Rawson Sq and then next door to Le Cafe Bleu for some lunch...if i'm feeling brave, I might nip onto Table Decor along North Parade. That is it. Get out as quickly as possible. My husband and I are not at home in our birth City anymore, that's why we're in the middle of our application to emigrate. We are hardworking, tax-paying, law-abiding (mostly!) professionals. Bradford doesn't deserve our service to its society anymore
Its not enough to label Bradford as better or worse than anywhere else, its enough to look at what is happening, what we are seeing, and that is chaos.
Up with the partridge
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8:28am Mon 22 Mar 10
bredandbuttered wrote:What I do not understand is why your local paper does not call those responsible to account. It sits idly by and says nothing about Bradford, unless it is of course football which has a disproportionate amout of time devoted to it by most.
lumpylicious wrote: I am Bradford born & bred. I have lived in Bingley for the last 3yrs & am in my early 30's. I work in Bfd but really, really don't like the place anymore. I used to be an advocate for my City & proud of it, but am now embarrassed by the decay. Dirty & scruffy it is. Racial tension like a fog that is now so thick, you can't see your hand in front of your face anymore. Ground zero at the end of Market St, big burgundy boards surrounding it, in a pathetic attempt to hide the mess. So disgustingly sad. To be totally honest, the only place that i can spend anytime in, out of choice, is Blues Hair Workshop on Rawson Sq and then next door to Le Cafe Bleu for some lunch...if i'm feeling brave, I might nip onto Table Decor along North Parade. That is it. Get out as quickly as possible. My husband and I are not at home in our birth City anymore, that's why we're in the middle of our application to emigrate. We are hardworking, tax-paying, law-abiding (mostly!) professionals. Bradford doesn't deserve our service to its society anymoreI think you have an average opinion there, one that would come out in a poll. Its not enough to label Bradford as better or worse than anywhere else, its enough to look at what is happening, what we are seeing, and that is chaos.
Hodgson Fold Defender
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11:31am Mon 22 Mar 10
sweep it under the carpet and all that? tut tut
Stan Dandyliver
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12:06pm Mon 22 Mar 10
There's a General Election coming up.
Before you automatically put your cross (as opposed to 'crescent') in the box on polling day have a good, hard think about what has become of your city and country over the past 40 years.
Think about what it will be like in another 40 years time if things continue as they are, and then cast your vote according to which way you would like things to go.
You may decide that the reclamation of this city and country for the descendants of those who fought, paid for and built it is, in fact, by far the most important issue facing us today.
mejaz
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12:07pm Tue 23 Mar 10
Stan Dandyliver wrote:You’re 100% correct, we need to change the mindset in Bradford. If that means a change in the governing party so be it, but who to vote for, who can we trust to resolve these issues Bradford is now facing. We need more investment, preservation and restoration of local heritage sites, revitalization and harmony throughout the community, a strong sense of belong and mutual respect for other residence.
It's time to tun these comments into votes.
There's a General Election coming up.
Before you automatically put your cross (as opposed to 'crescent') in the box on polling day have a good, hard think about what has become of your city and country over the past 40 years.
Think about what it will be like in another 40 years time if things continue as they are, and then cast your vote according to which way you would like things to go.
You may decide that the reclamation of this city and country for the descendants of those who fought, paid for and built it is, in fact, by far the most important issue facing us today.
My father came to this country in the late 50’s with the intention of personal gain as well as to fulfil the labour shortage for manual workers. Stan I stand beside you to reclaim this great city from those who have let it deteriorate, our fathers and forefathers played significant roles in shaping and developing not just Bradford but the entire British industry. You have my vote ‘brother’ just tell me where to sign?
bredandbuttered
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5:34pm Tue 23 Mar 10
albion
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2:43pm Wed 24 Mar 10
bredandbuttered wrote:Or Labour, Green or Lib Dem.
Just don't vote Conservative or BNP.
bredandbuttered
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9:52pm Wed 24 Mar 10
albion wrote:You could try doing what I do. Don't vote. You'll feel better, with less guilt.
bredandbuttered wrote:Or Labour, Green or Lib Dem.
Just don't vote Conservative or BNP.
Its a system I find works really well.
I get to moan at the party in power for being wimps (though their hands are "tied" due to party politics), I get to laugh at the opposition for being so contrary because they can't admit they have no better ideas, then I imagine an impossible world where we recycle the crap we buy and grow our own veg rather than importing from the other side of the earth, and I even get to belittle the right wing for the gay nazis they are (how could they hold their ideas without wanting to dress up kinky and admit to being in some sort of repressed closet).
When all else fails, try thinking about our history, and cheer up a bit, its not all bad.
lonniejockstrap
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10:58pm Wed 24 Mar 10
Stan Dandyliver
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12:54am Thu 25 Mar 10
And not voting? What a sad excuse for a lazy waster you really are.
It is not a matter of having faith in politicians, parties or democracy.
The fact is that at this moment in time the UK has this electoral system in place, and if you REALLY want to change the political landscape you need to start a new party and build it from the grass roots up into a major contender.
Labour, and 'New' Labour are relatively new parties. Both no longer represent the people they were meant to.
The most right wing people in this country are the working classes that the labour and socialist left believe they represent.
Start a party that addresses the fears of the working class in this country and you will attract unprecedented support from not only the so-called working classes, but also from the extreme right.
The politics of both complete a circle of mutual interest, despite what the leftist subversives would have us believe.
As for the 'War on Terror'? Providing it stops Islamic nutters killing people here on my home turf, then I honestly couldn't give a toss if peripheral damage is done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan or any other breeding ground for fascist, racist, spiteful, vindictive, malicious religious headbangers.
Our brave lads and lasses are the best. All of you treacherous clowns, who nestle in the safety of the land that their bravery maintains, need to pray nightly that they are never called home to come after you.
Bless them, bless this Anglo-Saxon land.
Ca1igu1a@Bradford
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1:03am Thu 25 Mar 10
Stan Dandyliver wrote:Impressive post.
The comment on 'gay Nazis' tells more of the closet homophobe than than it does of the fighter against fascism.
And not voting? What a sad excuse for a lazy waster you really are.
It is not a matter of having faith in politicians, parties or democracy.
The fact is that at this moment in time the UK has this electoral system in place, and if you REALLY want to change the political landscape you need to start a new party and build it from the grass roots up into a major contender.
Labour, and 'New' Labour are relatively new parties. Both no longer represent the people they were meant to.
The most right wing people in this country are the working classes that the labour and socialist left believe they represent.
Start a party that addresses the fears of the working class in this country and you will attract unprecedented support from not only the so-called working classes, but also from the extreme right.
The politics of both complete a circle of mutual interest, despite what the leftist subversives would have us believe.
As for the 'War on Terror'? Providing it stops Islamic nutters killing people here on my home turf, then I honestly couldn't give a toss if peripheral damage is done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan or any other breeding ground for fascist, racist, spiteful, vindictive, malicious religious headbangers.
Our brave lads and lasses are the best. All of you treacherous clowns, who nestle in the safety of the land that their bravery maintains, need to pray nightly that they are never called home to come after you.
Bless them, bless this Anglo-Saxon land.
albion
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10:48am Thu 25 Mar 10
Stan Dandyliver wrote:"As for the 'War on Terror'? Providing it stops Islamic nutters killing people here on my home turf, then I honestly couldn't give a toss if peripheral damage is done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan or any other breeding ground for fascist, racist, spiteful, vindictive, malicious religious headbangers"
The comment on 'gay Nazis' tells more of the closet homophobe than than it does of the fighter against fascism.
And not voting? What a sad excuse for a lazy waster you really are.
It is not a matter of having faith in politicians, parties or democracy.
The fact is that at this moment in time the UK has this electoral system in place, and if you REALLY want to change the political landscape you need to start a new party and build it from the grass roots up into a major contender.
Labour, and 'New' Labour are relatively new parties. Both no longer represent the people they were meant to.
The most right wing people in this country are the working classes that the labour and socialist left believe they represent.
Start a party that addresses the fears of the working class in this country and you will attract unprecedented support from not only the so-called working classes, but also from the extreme right.
The politics of both complete a circle of mutual interest, despite what the leftist subversives would have us believe.
As for the 'War on Terror'? Providing it stops Islamic nutters killing people here on my home turf, then I honestly couldn't give a toss if peripheral damage is done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan or any other breeding ground for fascist, racist, spiteful, vindictive, malicious religious headbangers.
Our brave lads and lasses are the best. All of you treacherous clowns, who nestle in the safety of the land that their bravery maintains, need to pray nightly that they are never called home to come after you.
Bless them, bless this Anglo-Saxon land.
Tut tut! you naughty person!
Nice one!!!!!!!!!!!
wasteofmoney
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7:02pm Thu 25 Mar 10
Sterilise the lot of 'em I say!!
Unsuprisingly non of the 'Councillors' or 'Tourism Chiefs' live in Bradford but don't have the guts to admit why...bet they don't shop there either!
albion
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8:44pm Thu 25 Mar 10
wasteofmoney wrote:Who can blame them?
I have worked in Bradford for 20 years and it just gets worse. There are just as many white scratters as Asian....take a look in centenary square on a sunny if you don't believe me!
Sterilise the lot of 'em I say!!
Unsuprisingly non of the 'Councillors' or 'Tourism Chiefs' live in Bradford but don't have the guts to admit why...bet they don't shop there either!
lonniejockstrap
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11:12pm Thu 25 Mar 10
albion wrote:Google: 'End of Nations' and take note of who is REALLY calling the shots. Your vote isn't worth a light. Big business is mostly controlling our Political decisions. The sooner people realise this the sooner they can start working to change things. Whilst people think all the problems in this City and Country is the fault of immigrants and 'Asians' the more the control of our 'democracy' will be taken over by the unelected Elite and the less yours and everybody else's vote will matter. Stop kidding yourselves that we have a democracy.
Stan Dandyliver wrote:"As for the 'War on Terror'? Providing it stops Islamic nutters killing people here on my home turf, then I honestly couldn't give a toss if peripheral damage is done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan or any other breeding ground for fascist, racist, spiteful, vindictive, malicious religious headbangers"
The comment on 'gay Nazis' tells more of the closet homophobe than than it does of the fighter against fascism.
And not voting? What a sad excuse for a lazy waster you really are.
It is not a matter of having faith in politicians, parties or democracy.
The fact is that at this moment in time the UK has this electoral system in place, and if you REALLY want to change the political landscape you need to start a new party and build it from the grass roots up into a major contender.
Labour, and 'New' Labour are relatively new parties. Both no longer represent the people they were meant to.
The most right wing people in this country are the working classes that the labour and socialist left believe they represent.
Start a party that addresses the fears of the working class in this country and you will attract unprecedented support from not only the so-called working classes, but also from the extreme right.
The politics of both complete a circle of mutual interest, despite what the leftist subversives would have us believe.
As for the 'War on Terror'? Providing it stops Islamic nutters killing people here on my home turf, then I honestly couldn't give a toss if peripheral damage is done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan or any other breeding ground for fascist, racist, spiteful, vindictive, malicious religious headbangers.
Our brave lads and lasses are the best. All of you treacherous clowns, who nestle in the safety of the land that their bravery maintains, need to pray nightly that they are never called home to come after you.
Bless them, bless this Anglo-Saxon land.
Tut tut! you naughty person!
Nice one!!!!!!!!!!!
albion
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6:20am Fri 26 Mar 10
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