Council to landscape Broadway site until building starts (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Council to landscape Broadway site until building starts
7:00am Thursday 11th February 2010 in News
Exclusive By Will Kilner
The Westfield site in Bradford which could be opened up as a "community garden"
The site of Bradford’s mothballed shopping development is set to be opened up as a “community garden” until Westfield is ready to re-start its £320 million retail scheme.
Bradford Council has completed a site survey and is exploring a raft of temporary uses for the dormant Broadway site.
The plans would see hoardings surrounding the site moved back to the edge of the basement area that has been dug out, allowing half of the site to be levelled out and used by the public.
The Council said there was potential to create grassed areas, seating, footpaths between the city centre and Little Germany, a wild flower meadow, urban allotments and an area for outdoor theatre performances, illuminated at night by a solar-powered lighting system.
Regeneration chiefs are working with bosses of arts development organisation Fabric, which wants to see sculptures around the site, artwork on the hoardings and large art installations in the basement area that could be viewed through perspex windows in the hoardings.
Mike Cowlam, the Council’s assistant director for regeneration, said: “Clearly it’s a construction site and that has some fairly clear challenges in terms of health and safety. Whatever we do, we need to make sure the ground is safe for everyone.
“In the current economic climate, the site is going to continue to remain empty until things pick up. On that basis, we want to find a ‘meanwhile’ use for the site.
“The plan is to reduce the amount of hoarding down to a much smaller area running around that basement part of the site. About half the site will be opened up to this community garden.”
He said the Council had some Government money to help ease the effects of the recession and was in discussions with Westfield about co-funding the interim measures. The Council is also in talks with arts foundations and a number of other partners.
Gideon Seymour, director of Fabric, said: “Our reason for getting involved was to allow people to engage with that space and that means opening parts of it up.
“Once people can access it we want to create reasons for them to linger and enjoy it, whether it’s things to look at or things to do.”
A Westfield spokesman said: “We are continuing to monitor the demand for new retail space and economic conditions in all markets in which we operate with a view to determining if and when we can re-start our development pipeline.
“As an interim measure we are exploring short terms uses for the Broadway site that are cost-effective and will not have a detrimental effect on the feasibility of the development.”
Councillor Adrian Naylor, the Council’s executive member for regeneration, said: “Any solution that comes out of what we are doing must involve the community in terms of how they have the ability to contribute to the final answer.”
Comments(81)
Bradford's Great
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7:17am Thu 11 Feb 10
Kev-Robinson
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7:38am Thu 11 Feb 10
amiedave
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7:40am Thu 11 Feb 10
holden caulfield
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8:00am Thu 11 Feb 10
But what a silly idea, better to leave it as a monument to the folly of the Council Leaders, their advisers, the 'Consultants' and the economic miracle that is unfettered capitalism.
Avro
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8:06am Thu 11 Feb 10
Meanwhile 1 in 5 shops in the centre are empty!
ms walker
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8:17am Thu 11 Feb 10
Bradford's Great wrote:*ahem!* BG, contributors to this site have been suggesting something similar for at least two years. I'd say 'Well done Bradford Council for eventually taking notice'. However, it is a positive step, and in response to old speckled hen, as long as they get the topsoil down fairly quickly, some wildflowers can be seeded and germinate in just a few months. Time allowing, I'd be happy to volunteer some time and effort to support this move. I'm really pleased that we're seeing some action.
Sounds great to me - well done Bradford Council for this great idea!
My misgivings come from the Wastefield quote:
"A Westfield spokesman said: “We are continuing to monitor the demand for new retail space and economic conditions in all markets in which we operate with a view to determining if and when we can re-start our development pipeline."
Buried in this corporate gobbledygook is the word 'IF'. Since when did the suggestion that they might not 'restart development pipeline' creep into their plans...?
sarahkate
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8:33am Thu 11 Feb 10
jkelly
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8:43am Thu 11 Feb 10
richardk9
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9:05am Thu 11 Feb 10
Icemonkey
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9:16am Thu 11 Feb 10
Up with the partridge
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9:28am Thu 11 Feb 10
Icemonkey wrote:Good idea a genuine shoppers car park with say a max limit of 5 hours to stop office wallers filling it up. One of the best ideas yet, attract shoppers to what is left of Bradford as it will be 5-10 years before a new shopping centre is built.
What the people of bradford need is one big FREE car park. not more grass that will cost the tax payer money to cut. come on Bradford we do not need any more play areas. get a grip and get out of Town.
Ralphie
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9:31am Thu 11 Feb 10
Biker71
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9:34am Thu 11 Feb 10
A more positive announcement would be a scheme to reduce rent and rates in council owned shops or even free periods to allow small businesses to establish.. rather than spending our money to make good a profiteering company's folly.
Maybe the money spent making the " park " would be better spent taking legal action to force Westfield to honour its LEGALLY BINDING contract..
But that would mean this council developing a backbone, and not chasing easy targets like motorists.
cliftonmike
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9:38am Thu 11 Feb 10
Moon on a stick
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9:50am Thu 11 Feb 10
Up with the partridge wrote:AGREED, this would resolve 2 problems, the lack of use at the Westfield site and the serious retail decline in the city centre.
Icemonkey wrote: What the people of bradford need is one big FREE car park. not more grass that will cost the tax payer money to cut. come on Bradford we do not need any more play areas. get a grip and get out of Town.Good idea a genuine shoppers car park with say a max limit of 5 hours to stop office wallers filling it up. One of the best ideas yet, attract shoppers to what is left of Bradford as it will be 5-10 years before a new shopping centre is built.
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Maybe I'm cynical but I almost believe the council wants the failure in the city centre so that would make the Westfield site more attractive for businesses to relocate to? If they're not that mad, their policies suggest otherwise.
As for the point that benched public realm attracts drunks, smack heads and purse theives that is 100% correct.
alas poor bradford I new it well
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10:17am Thu 11 Feb 10
Ever see that film Gangs of New York. It's happening here.
Roll on the elections.
Joedavid
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10:26am Thu 11 Feb 10
Avro wrote:YES, they should pay.
Shouldn't Westfield be stumping up the bill for this? Meanwhile 1 in 5 shops in the centre are empty!
tjm5
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10:27am Thu 11 Feb 10
alas poor bradford I new it well
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10:29am Thu 11 Feb 10
Are you listening Councilors
Ed Hunter
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10:32am Thu 11 Feb 10
Andy2010
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10:49am Thu 11 Feb 10
I appreciate others with the car park option but really the only option should be for the council to ditch Westfield, sue them for compensation and appoint another business to build this. I used to work for one of the largest builders in the UK who owns the White Rose and I asked at the time about the Westfield project. Their response was that the leases that are profitably are unworkable in Bradford. In order for it to be a success you need a major player to be the head lease and other high street chains to partcipate however it was felt through research that no retailors or not many would want a presence in Bradford due to
1) The disposable income of the population which in essence is impoverished
2) The location to Leeds
After listening to their arguements it does not make any business sense for this centre to be built at all and the whole prject shoudl be mothballed and the actual city centre regenerated. Alas all I feel that will be left shopwise in Bradford is just small high street retailors, endless Greggs and numerous pound shops.
One of the directors once told me that no matter how much market research was done he always visited sites e.g. Bradford centre and walked round for a day to get a feel for the place. He stated that the shops already there represent what the people want...enough said. The assumption of this is that if retailors geniunelly beleived a profit could be made they would be queuing up for pretigious premises....enough said.
Moon on a stick
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10:58am Thu 11 Feb 10
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Then again it's always a gamble buying something for a pound and expecting it to last...
albion
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10:59am Thu 11 Feb 10
Joedavid wrote:It says in the report that the two sides are discussing co-funding, whoever pays it is a waste of money! Just leave it.
Avro wrote:YES, they should pay.
Shouldn't Westfield be stumping up the bill for this? Meanwhile 1 in 5 shops in the centre are empty!
janep
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11:14am Thu 11 Feb 10
No Gideon, the reason for getting involved is to make money for yourself and your network of 'artists' and 'consultants' who are leeching off the tax payers in a totally no productive 'industry'.
As others have suggested, make it a SECURE free (or cheap) car park, then spend money on fixing up the city centre, firstly, by tackling crime, and blatant law breaking, which WE ALL CAN SEE HAPPENING DAILY in town!
Moon on a stick
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11:46am Thu 11 Feb 10
janep wrote:APPLAUSE!!!!
"Gideon Seymour, director of Fabric, said: “Our reason for getting involved was to allow people to engage with that space and that means opening parts of it up." No Gideon, the reason for getting involved is to make money for yourself and your network of 'artists' and 'consultants' who are leeching off the tax payers in a totally no productive 'industry'. As others have suggested, make it a SECURE free (or cheap) car park, then spend money on fixing up the city centre, firstly, by tackling crime, and blatant law breaking, which WE ALL CAN SEE HAPPENING DAILY in town!
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This public realm solution to all Bradford's problem is a joke. Let's pay for someone to keep churning out Photoshop images of an imaginary Bradford and plant a few trees, stick in some benches and erm job done!
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You don't just need to see crime even from the streets, some of it's even being posted on Facebook and YouTube. Want to order a space at the back of an apparent business premise in Bradford to smoke shisha (or whatever else) and have a party and you can do so.
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Want to harass a PCSO in Bradford centre and film it on your cameraphone and post it to YouTube then go ahead, there's examples already on there.
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Of course the council and police don't know how to use a computer it would seem. Given they don't seem to leave their desks to see the problems first hand you think they could at least manage that?
markjoe
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12:01pm Thu 11 Feb 10
The Controller
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12:05pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Isn't that the Moon ??
Joedavid
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12:08pm Thu 11 Feb 10
The council have no guts to do what is the right thing to do.
Storck
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12:25pm Thu 11 Feb 10
alas poor bradford I new it well wrote:I can not see the council turning it into a free secure car park as it would cost the council thrice over. Firstly there would be a cost to set the car park up, secondly an on going cost to make it secure, CCTV, security guards who would have to check the 5 hours was held and thirdly they would lose any income that they make from parking at the moment. Who would pay to park for a few hours if they can park for free just a couple of minutes walk away.
Good idea from a previous post, a FREE, secure car-park for say up to 5 hours per day that would be very positive for the City.
Are you listening Councilors
Rambo
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12:25pm Thu 11 Feb 10
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I was in Ilkley on Sunday. Saw more police there in an hour than I have done for a whole month in Bradford.
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In relation to the article, to me it smacks of the council admitting the development is NOT going to happen.
Moon on a stick
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12:44pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Storck wrote:People won't park at Forster Square to come into town as they're keen on clamping at Forster Square for one. What is proven though is that free parking brings in trade even mid-week and out of office hours. The parking attendants in the city centre are driving away trade.
alas poor bradford I new it well wrote: Good idea from a previous post, a FREE, secure car-park for say up to 5 hours per day that would be very positive for the City. Are you listening CouncilorsI can not see the council turning it into a free secure car park as it would cost the council thrice over. Firstly there would be a cost to set the car park up, secondly an on going cost to make it secure, CCTV, security guards who would have to check the 5 hours was held and thirdly they would lose any income that they make from parking at the moment. Who would pay to park for a few hours if they can park for free just a couple of minutes walk away.
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As for CCTV there's already cameras around that area so it would need few if any added.
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How much trade are some benches and trees going to bring in?
boparob
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12:47pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Moon on a stick
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12:49pm Thu 11 Feb 10
boparob wrote:More like South Park... With Adrian Naylor as Cartman shouting out "respect mah AUTHORITAH!!!"
No park for decades, then we get 2 in a year!! Can we call it Central Park?
Storck
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12:58pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Moon on a stick wrote:What about the multi storey at John Street Market, or the on street parking around the city centre where you have to pay, they would soon be empty if the Broadway was free. As for CCTV they would have to fit it into the site itself so that it was secure and employ people to walk round the site otherwise it would be a thief paradise.
Storck wrote:People won't park at Forster Square to come into town as they're keen on clamping at Forster Square for one. What is proven though is that free parking brings in trade even mid-week and out of office hours. The parking attendants in the city centre are driving away trade.
alas poor bradford I new it well wrote: Good idea from a previous post, a FREE, secure car-park for say up to 5 hours per day that would be very positive for the City. Are you listening CouncilorsI can not see the council turning it into a free secure car park as it would cost the council thrice over. Firstly there would be a cost to set the car park up, secondly an on going cost to make it secure, CCTV, security guards who would have to check the 5 hours was held and thirdly they would lose any income that they make from parking at the moment. Who would pay to park for a few hours if they can park for free just a couple of minutes walk away.
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As for CCTV there's already cameras around that area so it would need few if any added.
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How much trade are some benches and trees going to bring in?
Storck
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1:01pm Thu 11 Feb 10
After typing that I just noticed the word was take-food. Hope true.
Moon on a stick
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1:08pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Storck wrote:Clearly you've not parked on the on-street parking in the city centre, apart from the current hassle, break-ins too aren't uncommon. Then if you're a few minutes late, bang!, ticket.
Moon on a stick wrote:What about the multi storey at John Street Market, or the on street parking around the city centre where you have to pay, they would soon be empty if the Broadway was free. As for CCTV they would have to fit it into the site itself so that it was secure and employ people to walk round the site otherwise it would be a thief paradise.Storck wrote:People won't park at Forster Square to come into town as they're keen on clamping at Forster Square for one. What is proven though is that free parking brings in trade even mid-week and out of office hours. The parking attendants in the city centre are driving away trade. . As for CCTV there's already cameras around that area so it would need few if any added. . How much trade are some benches and trees going to bring in?alas poor bradford I new it well wrote: Good idea from a previous post, a FREE, secure car-park for say up to 5 hours per day that would be very positive for the City. Are you listening CouncilorsI can not see the council turning it into a free secure car park as it would cost the council thrice over. Firstly there would be a cost to set the car park up, secondly an on going cost to make it secure, CCTV, security guards who would have to check the 5 hours was held and thirdly they would lose any income that they make from parking at the moment. Who would pay to park for a few hours if they can park for free just a couple of minutes walk away.
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Maybe you should hang around around the current benched areas around Centernary Square that at first sight look nice and see how long before you're hassled?
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If there was an allotment in the city centre I'd be up for that mind you; I could grow cannabis since enough people walk around the centre smoking it.
Ralphie
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1:24pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Why are n't the council investigating alternatives for the site? Perhaps a smaller shopping centre without the car parking etc. and the remaing area returned to roads with shops etc
perhaps linked to Forster Square.
Maybe Westfield would be interested in building a smaller project.
The frightening thought is that this situation could still exist in 10-15 years time.
Moon on a stick
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1:28pm Thu 11 Feb 10
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When you're on the end of the continual unoriginal approaches of "Excuse me mate" or "Got any change for the phone" (I can't believe some people still use that line given everyone has mobiles these days) then maybe you'll lose the rose tinted glasses. TBH at least those are the least hassle, some people are more aggressive to even bother putting on an act.
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Then the next thing you'll have are the chavs coming with their Tesco bags with vodka and coke pouring the vodka into the coke, ditching the vodka bottle then walking around generally p1ssing about but the PSCO's won't go near, a) because they know it'll end up trouble b) because they can pretend that surely they're only drinking coke (despite not being that naive themselves).
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Your argument on the grounds of the existing CCTV not being up to monitoring a car park is even more flawed, CCTV is more important to tackle street crime than car crime without being watched the example issues above will undoubtedly occur and worse still.
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Even this month the Bradford South NPT (Neighbour Policing Team) has an action to try and tackle “anti-social behaviour and drugs in Little Germany” well when the area is landscaped those elements will have a field day.
guggsy
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2:20pm Thu 11 Feb 10
spanglishbull.uk
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2:23pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Juice Terry
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2:33pm Thu 11 Feb 10
t'old man
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3:06pm Thu 11 Feb 10
mad matt
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3:08pm Thu 11 Feb 10
outside of politics
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3:32pm Thu 11 Feb 10
move businesses down the hill as well onto the site so the majority of shops are together and folk don't have to continually walk up and down hills to shop.
then look at developing top ens of town as a separate project.
Eccy George
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3:47pm Thu 11 Feb 10
janep
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3:52pm Thu 11 Feb 10
webess
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3:59pm Thu 11 Feb 10
alas poor bradford I new it well wrote:Indeed so, especially as all those blue jacketed wardens are there to prevent congestion and not there as a money making exercise.
Good idea from a previous post, a FREE, secure car-park for say up to 5 hours per day that would be very positive for the City.
Are you listening Councilors
Come on council, why no free car park? Dewsbury's just brought in a free car parking scheme BTW
albion
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4:02pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Eccy George
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4:08pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Hugo Chavez
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4:35pm Thu 11 Feb 10
sec word: land-debt
cityd
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4:46pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Iona Cortina
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5:05pm Thu 11 Feb 10
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What would Sir Samuel make of what's happened to his beloved city ? <shudders>
moving finger
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5:57pm Thu 11 Feb 10
We'll get some green space instead of a fenced off space, the landscaping & subsequent maintenance will provide jobs, and Little Germany will be re-united with the city centre.
Stop moaning.
Pratfinder-General
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5:57pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Moon on a stick
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6:02pm Thu 11 Feb 10
moving finger wrote:It's better than nothing but again it's half measures, Bradford needs ecomonic repair not eye candy covering the cracks. Also given the figures that Bradford has the 2nd worst record in the country for vacant shop units it's about time someone in power realised Spin won't fix Bradford, nor will water features and trees.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. People have been whining on this website that something should be done with the site. Now there is something being done they don't like what that something is.
We'll get some green space instead of a fenced off space, the landscaping & subsequent maintenance will provide jobs, and Little Germany will be re-united with the city centre.
Stop moaning.
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If you look at the moans over the last 12 months plus, the idea of car parking has been a constant theme with few people demanding more public realm enhancements.
webess
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6:02pm Thu 11 Feb 10
moving finger wrote:Afraid this is Bradford, UK capital of moaning
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. People have been whining on this website that something should be done with the site. Now there is something being done they don't like what that something is.
We'll get some green space instead of a fenced off space, the landscaping & subsequent maintenance will provide jobs, and Little Germany will be re-united with the city centre.
Stop moaning.
cityd
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6:06pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Eccy George wrote:its £600000 not 1.2 million, looks like the bulls might be playing in that hole rather than the bantams
Maybe Bradford City could move in to the hole, surely it would be cheaper rent than the alleged £1.2 million per year they currently have to pay Mr Flamingo Land, they could then spend more on players to get out of league two and it would be a lot better for us fans from this side of Bradford than moving across to the Odsal Sporting Village (another 'never going to happen' scheme involving our shambles of a council)
giveover
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6:10pm Thu 11 Feb 10
cityd wrote:Or maybe put the bullies in the hole and fill it in.
Eccy George wrote: Maybe Bradford City could move in to the hole, surely it would be cheaper rent than the alleged £1.2 million per year they currently have to pay Mr Flamingo Land, they could then spend more on players to get out of league two and it would be a lot better for us fans from this side of Bradford than moving across to the Odsal Sporting Village (another 'never going to happen' scheme involving our shambles of a council)its £600000 not 1.2 million, looks like the bulls might be playing in that hole rather than the bantams
Moon on a stick
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6:27pm Thu 11 Feb 10
webess wrote:Well we're in the top 10 for most things negative so one more won't do any harm.
moving finger wrote:Afraid this is Bradford, UK capital of moaning
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. People have been whining on this website that something should be done with the site. Now there is something being done they don't like what that something is.
We'll get some green space instead of a fenced off space, the landscaping & subsequent maintenance will provide jobs, and Little Germany will be re-united with the city centre.
Stop moaning.
nowt fresh
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6:27pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Yorkshire Lass
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6:48pm Thu 11 Feb 10
albion
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7:16pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Iona Cortina wrote:He would probably say "bl**dy h*ll its full of w*gs!
Bradford has been abandoned since 1990 (i.e. since the last great mill (Listers) closed down).
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What would Sir Samuel make of what's happened to his beloved city ? <shudders></shudders
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yezboss
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7:24pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Up with the partridge wrote:Up with the partridge of Norwich; Clearly you have not shopped in Bradford. How on earth would you possibly find enough to keep the most casual shoper occupied shopping in Bradford. I would say having been to Norwich there is more there to shop for than Bradford. The only driver wanting to park in Bradford for more than 5 hours is someone who works there.
Icemonkey wrote:Good idea a genuine shoppers car park with say a max limit of 5 hours to stop office wallers filling it up. One of the best ideas yet, attract shoppers to what is left of Bradford as it will be 5-10 years before a new shopping centre is built.
What the people of bradford need is one big FREE car park. not more grass that will cost the tax payer money to cut. come on Bradford we do not need any more play areas. get a grip and get out of Town.
albion
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7:32pm Thu 11 Feb 10
yezboss wrote:Or who is selling items FROM his car.
Up with the partridge wrote:Up with the partridge of Norwich; Clearly you have not shopped in Bradford. How on earth would you possibly find enough to keep the most casual shoper occupied shopping in Bradford. I would say having been to Norwich there is more there to shop for than Bradford. The only driver wanting to park in Bradford for more than 5 hours is someone who works there.
Icemonkey wrote:Good idea a genuine shoppers car park with say a max limit of 5 hours to stop office wallers filling it up. One of the best ideas yet, attract shoppers to what is left of Bradford as it will be 5-10 years before a new shopping centre is built.
What the people of bradford need is one big FREE car park. not more grass that will cost the tax payer money to cut. come on Bradford we do not need any more play areas. get a grip and get out of Town.
webess
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7:49pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Furthermore they seem to post the same stuff no matter what the story, same old jokjes, same dreary rambles every day.
psymo
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7:55pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Let the independent artists of bradford have a go and just lighten up for once...there are other factors that make bradford dull and quiet; the rising costs of bus travel, the obviously repressed mindset and the clear demand there must be for poundshops and betting shops. dont shun an opportunity, embrace it.
psymo
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7:58pm Thu 11 Feb 10
albion
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7:58pm Thu 11 Feb 10
psymo wrote:There is still a question of the cost.
Why are the people of Bradford so negative, comments asking of a carpark and beratting the ideas. At least people are thinking of doing something while everybody else sits at home complaining about nothing getting done, and then someone does think of doing something for once and you complain again.
Let the independent artists of bradford have a go and just lighten up for once...there are other factors that make bradford dull and quiet; the rising costs of bus travel, the obviously repressed mindset and the clear demand there must be for poundshops and betting shops. dont shun an opportunity, embrace it.
cityd
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8:25pm Thu 11 Feb 10
psymo wrote:so a car park would not be more usefull than a green area for smack heads and winos? hows that negative, if im in town im going to use the carpark, and would be happy to pay a couple of pounds to use it rather than drive round and round looking for parking, the money could be used to build the future project and all is good! negative my eye
Why are the people of Bradford so negative, comments asking of a carpark and beratting the ideas. At least people are thinking of doing something while everybody else sits at home complaining about nothing getting done, and then someone does think of doing something for once and you complain again. Let the independent artists of bradford have a go and just lighten up for once...there are other factors that make bradford dull and quiet; the rising costs of bus travel, the obviously repressed mindset and the clear demand there must be for poundshops and betting shops. dont shun an opportunity, embrace it.
mhaze
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9:38pm Thu 11 Feb 10
js66
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11:29pm Thu 11 Feb 10
cityd wrote:There's plenty of room on the site for both a car park and a green park area - why not do both?
psymo wrote:so a car park would not be more usefull than a green area for smack heads and winos? hows that negative, if im in town im going to use the carpark, and would be happy to pay a couple of pounds to use it rather than drive round and round looking for parking, the money could be used to build the future project and all is good! negative my eye
Why are the people of Bradford so negative, comments asking of a carpark and beratting the ideas. At least people are thinking of doing something while everybody else sits at home complaining about nothing getting done, and then someone does think of doing something for once and you complain again. Let the independent artists of bradford have a go and just lighten up for once...there are other factors that make bradford dull and quiet; the rising costs of bus travel, the obviously repressed mindset and the clear demand there must be for poundshops and betting shops. dont shun an opportunity, embrace it.
Just make sure the hordes of blue-jacketed tax collectors aren't allowed in!
markjoe
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9:30am Fri 12 Feb 10
Keith W
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10:11am Fri 12 Feb 10
What this city needs is bold schemes that would have the control freaks of Westminster wobbling.
What about not only free car parks, but why not take away most of the yellow lines most of which were never needed in the first place? I worked in Bradford centre and just outside from the early 60's and there was never the congestion that we have now as life wasn't made impossible for the motorist.
Bradford needs shoppers and visitors......not restrictions of movement. Has anyone with any say in city hall the guts to try a radical experiment such as the one I have outlined? Sadly I fear not one,person.
Keith W
psymo
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10:29am Fri 12 Feb 10
cityd
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12:19pm Fri 12 Feb 10
psymo wrote:true but 2 of them are very close together and right in the centre of town,parking on broadway site would ease the traffic in the town centre would it not? also the one near tj hughes is expensive and so is the one at cini world
There are already 3 multi-storey carparks in the city centre
bfd lass
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1:35pm Fri 12 Feb 10
Keith W
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2:39pm Fri 12 Feb 10
What this city needs is bold schemes that would have the control freaks of Westminster wobbling.
What about not only free car parks, but why not take away most of the yellow lines most of which were never needed in the first place? I worked in Bradford centre and just outside from the early 60's and there was never the congestion that we have now as life wasn't made impossible for the motorist.
Bradford needs shoppers and visitors......not restrictions of movement. Has anyone with any say in city hall the guts to try a radical experiment such as the one I have outlined? Sadly I fear not one,person.
Keith W
Moon on a stick
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3:37pm Fri 12 Feb 10
webess wrote:That includes you dear. The same issues exist a year on (more in fact) which surely is going to invite the same criticisms and suggestions.
Don't know if it's just me, but 80%+ of the comments on every story come from a small group of people. Furthermore they seem to post the same stuff no matter what the story, same old jokjes, same dreary rambles every day.
bijou1963
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12:22pm Fri 19 Feb 10
They are not going to come into Bradford if they have to pay for parking. Free parking everywhere in Bradford come to think of it would be a good idea instead of paying our Council tax on another garden/park in the town centre. We pay enough as it is.
bijou1963
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12:22pm Fri 19 Feb 10
They are not going to come into Bradford if they have to pay for parking. Free parking everywhere in Bradford come to think of it would be a good idea instead of paying our Council tax on another garden/park in the town centre. We pay enough as it is.
old speckled hen says...
7:12am Thu 11 Feb 10
as it taken that long for them to realize , nowts happening