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9:00am Friday 1st January 2010
An aid convoy carrying medical supplies to Gaza from Bradford is having to turn back to Syria after being denied entry into Egypt.
Members of the Viva Palestina group, which includes 45 Bradford people, had begun a hunger strike in protest at the decision but called it off after mediation talks reached a deal.
More than 400 people from 17 countries are travelling in the 150-vehicle convoy, which is taking medical, humanitarian and educational aid to people in Gaza.
But after nearly 3,000 miles across Europe and the Middle East they were forced to stop in the Jordanian port town of Aqaba.
Earlier this week news came through to Bradford supporters that the Egyptians had laid down certain terms for allowing the convoy access to Gaza via the Rafah crossing.
Conditions included that the convoy must travel through Syria before going into Gaza, get permission from Israel to enter Gaza and hand over all goods and vehicles to the United Nations Works and Reliefs Agency.
Arshad Ali, who is leading the Bradford convoy, said in a text message home: “We have to go back to Syria – another three days added to our journey. Thanks to everyone for your solidarity. It meant a lot to us all.”
A message from another traveller on the Twitter social networking site read: “Back to Syria means 700km back northwards by road, means a long, hard drive and means additional fuel costs. Plus five days wasted in Aqaba!”
The agreement came after a Turkish mediator reached a deal with the Egyptian consul in Aqaba.
The convoy is now heading back to the Syrian port of Latakia to sail from there in a Turkish-funded charter vessel for a 19-hour trip to the Egyptian Mediterranean port of El Arish, and then on to Gaza.
albion, west riding says...
11:02am Fri 1 Jan 10
outspoken wrote:They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.
Iona Cortina, Bradford says...
11:39am Fri 1 Jan 10
albion wrote:Refrain from listening to Israeli army radio (aka 'Zionist propganada') for what's happening in Gaza, albion.
outspoken wrote:They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.
albion, west riding says...
11:48am Fri 1 Jan 10
Iona Cortina wrote:I simply asked a question based on previous events, such as those last January when Jordanian aid trucks were attacked.
albion wrote:Refrain from listening to Israeli army radio (aka 'Zionist propganada') for what's happening in Gaza, albion.
outspoken wrote:They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.
.
And re. Egypt's refusal, these bast*rds are in the hands of the Zionists in Washington (they pay Mubarak's regime over a billion dollars a year to make sure they do as they're told).
Iona Cortina, Bradford says...
12:07pm Fri 1 Jan 10
albion wrote:I'm just giving you some advice. And it's funny no-one's blaming the sickening Israeli regime for what's happening in other parts of Gaza (i.e. the exits and entrances).
Iona Cortina wrote:I simply asked a question based on previous events, such as those last January when Jordanian aid trucks were attacked.
albion wrote:Refrain from listening to Israeli army radio (aka 'Zionist propganada') for what's happening in Gaza, albion.
outspoken wrote:They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.
.
And re. Egypt's refusal, these bast*rds are in the hands of the Zionists in Washington (they pay Mubarak's regime over a billion dollars a year to make sure they do as they're told).
It isnt up to you to control what I might listen to read or watch (you just wish it was).
albion, west riding says...
12:56pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Iona Cortina wrote:No! but I think if the boot were on the other foot and this was an aid convoy to Israel you would be applauding all the restrictions and obstacles and probably the Hamas looters.
albion wrote:I'm just giving you some advice. And it's funny no-one's blaming the sickening Israeli regime for what's happening in other parts of Gaza (i.e. the exits and entrances).
Iona Cortina wrote:I simply asked a question based on previous events, such as those last January when Jordanian aid trucks were attacked.
albion wrote:Refrain from listening to Israeli army radio (aka 'Zionist propganada') for what's happening in Gaza, albion.
outspoken wrote:They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.
.
And re. Egypt's refusal, these bast*rds are in the hands of the Zionists in Washington (they pay Mubarak's regime over a billion dollars a year to make sure they do as they're told).
It isnt up to you to control what I might listen to read or watch (you just wish it was).
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The IDF control who goes in, and who goes out. Sounds like a concentration camp to me, albion. Rather ironic, don't you think ?
mad matt, Bradford says...
2:16pm Fri 1 Jan 10
harvela, London says...
3:02pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Iona Cortina, Bradford says...
3:32pm Fri 1 Jan 10
harvela wrote:It's funny you use the offensive term ('Pallywood'), to dismiss what certain people are doing for the average Palestinain.
Far too many wannabees intent on their 15 minutes of fame with Galloway heading the Pallywood rush for glory.The Egyptians have made it abundantly clear from the outset that all goods ,medicines etc must be turned over to UNWRA for delivery into Gaza .
Unfortunately for Gaza , Galloway and the rest are intent on turning the whole farce into a propoganda scoop with Galloway acting out delusions of grandeur as a latter day Lawrence of Arabia .
Quit all the showboating and put the needs of the Palestinian people first and foremost. The goods could have been shipped from the UK and would have arrived at Al Arish weeks ago.
An utter disgrace and testimony to Galloways monumental ego.
albion, west riding says...
3:43pm Fri 1 Jan 10
outspoken, bradford says...
4:42pm Fri 1 Jan 10
albion wrote:This is the first I have heard of previous convoys being looted are there any reports to back this up
outspoken wrote: I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
albion, west riding says...
5:23pm Fri 1 Jan 10
outspoken wrote:They were not aid convoys from this country, but there has been incidents of aid convoys and aid warehouses being looted, if you google= jordanian aid trucks, that will give an account of one such incident.
albion wrote:This is the first I have heard of previous convoys being looted are there any reports to back this up
outspoken wrote: I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
denis court, says...
6:08pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Iona Cortina wrote:Iona Brainscell is one sad case. What contribution does he make to this country and It's people, he hates so much? He talks about partition and predjudice but is proud to brag that muslim women should not participate in society. He is quite happy for allah to permit him to pick up 'benefits' earned by other people whilst he plays the tug in his two 'mates' honda as they cruise round the beauty spots off Oak Lane. The fool is happy to see Bradford deteriorate due to the colonisation of country bumpkins from mirpur, happy that people who have history going back generalisations can't wait to leave and happy that Bradford is a joke city.
albion wrote:Refrain from listening to Israeli army radio (aka 'Zionist propganada') for what's happening in Gaza, albion. . And re. Egypt's refusal, these bast*rds are in the hands of the Zionists in Washington (they pay Mubarak's regime over a billion dollars a year to make sure they do as they're told).outspoken wrote: I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.They are indeed, but some convoys taking the original route have been intercepted by Hamas gunmen and their contents forcibly removed, could it not be that the various authorities involved are just trying to overcome the potential of that being repeated?
harvela, London says...
6:15pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Iona Cortina, Bradford says...
7:17pm Fri 1 Jan 10
harvela wrote:Either back up what you've said (re. the so-called looting), or remain silent.
Iona Cortina
Interesting that you should dwell on the term Pallywood while choosing to ignore the fact that Galloway is prepared to risk the whole operation rather then simply have the provisions placed in the hands of UNWRA. Not that UNWRA has any real control of final distribution . Hamas seized part of the last Viva Gaza shipment breaking into UNWRAs bonded warehouses and claiming the food and medicines for Hamas fighters and their families. A repulsive act but unsurprising given Hamas treatment of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza in 2007
Galloway will shortly resume his role as a mouthpiece for tyranny on Press TV .
Perhaps that bothers you as little as the reality of Gaza and the misguided gestures of naive dupes who put adventurism and You Tube imagery first rather then take Route One to Gaza.
Quite sad really.
outspoken, bradford says...
7:49pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Iona Cortina wrote:Bit harsh , however I do not buy into the looting either, I am being told by people that were in the convoy earlier this year , the reason they went was because aid was being stored in warehouses and not distributed hence the reason some people took in on themselves to take from these warehouses and make people aware they were not being given the aid that was being donated.subsequently there are jews on the current convoy who know of what is being done so they joined.
harvela wrote: Iona Cortina Interesting that you should dwell on the term Pallywood while choosing to ignore the fact that Galloway is prepared to risk the whole operation rather then simply have the provisions placed in the hands of UNWRA. Not that UNWRA has any real control of final distribution . Hamas seized part of the last Viva Gaza shipment breaking into UNWRAs bonded warehouses and claiming the food and medicines for Hamas fighters and their families. A repulsive act but unsurprising given Hamas treatment of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza in 2007 Galloway will shortly resume his role as a mouthpiece for tyranny on Press TV . Perhaps that bothers you as little as the reality of Gaza and the misguided gestures of naive dupes who put adventurism and You Tube imagery first rather then take Route One to Gaza. Quite sad really.Either back up what you've said (re. the so-called looting), or remain silent. . It seems your ignorance (and hatred) of the Palestinians knows no bounds. *That's* sad.
harvela, London says...
8:17pm Fri 1 Jan 10
bluecorner100, keighley says...
8:21pm Fri 1 Jan 10
bluecorner100, keighley says...
8:27pm Fri 1 Jan 10
harvela wrote:Hamas, allegedly, stole relief supplies through desperation. Israel, definitely, has been stealing land for the last 60 plus years and killing any that puts up a fight - including British aid workers
Do your own research . Simply google 5th Feb 2009 Hamas police raid UN RELIEF supplies . You will come up with several hundred results including the BBC . You still avoid the main thrust of my post. Are the Palestinian people best served by Galloways 'Relief of Mafeking ' posturing or should the provisions have been sent direct to Gaza by sea container under the auspices of the Egyptians and designated Relief Agencies . An honest answer if possible
outspoken, bradford says...
9:09pm Fri 1 Jan 10
harvela wrote:Whatever the reasons for George Galloway to lead these convoys , the fact is he has shown that there is humanity in British people, any mp could have done the same but chose instead to stay put.It is far easier to question his integrity sat at a laptop.I was no big fan but the fact he has gone out there three times puts him on my christmas card list.
Do your own research . Simply google 5th Feb 2009 Hamas police raid UN RELIEF supplies . You will come up with several hundred results including the BBC . You still avoid the main thrust of my post. Are the Palestinian people best served by Galloways 'Relief of Mafeking ' posturing or should the provisions have been sent direct to Gaza by sea container under the auspices of the Egyptians and designated Relief Agencies . An honest answer if possible
Haji, Bradford says...
9:37pm Fri 1 Jan 10
outspoken wrote:I haven taken your lead on this and composed a very 'strongly worded' email to the Egyptian Embassy to tell them what I think of their decision.
I think this is totally disgusting that they were sent back.I for one will be writing a strong worded email to the Eygpt embassy and my mp.For Gods sake they are taking aid through.
hew jardon, bratfud says...
10:06pm Fri 1 Jan 10
harvela, London says...
12:02am Sat 2 Jan 10
Rambo, bradford says...
12:21am Sat 2 Jan 10
webess, says...
12:27am Sat 2 Jan 10
faisal2010, bradford says...
12:39am Sat 2 Jan 10
albion, west riding says...
6:28am Sat 2 Jan 10
webess wrote:Self publicity.
Couldn't they have just sent the stuff by DHL? At least they know the rules and regulaations for sending stuff around the world...
allannicho, Wakefield says...
8:53am Sat 2 Jan 10
outspoken, bradford says...
11:41am Sat 2 Jan 10
cheelvis, bradford says...
6:13pm Sat 2 Jan 10
outspoken, bradford says...
7:00pm Sat 2 Jan 10
cheelvis wrote:I take it this is a off the cuff remark and you are not seriously comparing the Gazans with the homeless here....for one I am proud to be British and know for a fact the homeless here receive the donations I as well as many give everymonth,secondly you don't see many children as young as 5 with their arms and legs blown off as a result of all the shelling.Anyone with a bit of humanity in them will be sickened to the stomach with the scenes that are coming from Gaza......
The hunger strike didn,t last long..... what about giving the aid to Bradfords homeless....no thought not
bluecorner100, keighley says...
9:05pm Sat 2 Jan 10
harvela wrote:Radical Islamist terror network or not - Hamas have been democratically elected by their people. The UN ruled the elections as valid and Jimmy Carter was the head of the validation committee. The west wasn't happy with this , and as usual, we are sticking our noses where we are not wanted.
Bluecorner 100 Mubarak has put the shutters up on Hamas because he has no intention of letting a radical Islamist terror network join forces with the Muslim Brotherhood . He is well aware that such a combination would generate violence and the potential to overthrow the secular government replacing it with a fascist theocracy reminiscent of what we see in Iran today. Mubarak is mindfull of what took place in Jordan during Black September 1970 . He will not allow a repeat of that hence the blockade . Nothing more nothing less.
outspoken, bradford says...
7:59am Sun 3 Jan 10
bluecorner100 wrote:Many would agree with Bluecorner ,regardless of creed , colour, sex or religion
harvela wrote: Bluecorner 100 Mubarak has put the shutters up on Hamas because he has no intention of letting a radical Islamist terror network join forces with the Muslim Brotherhood . He is well aware that such a combination would generate violence and the potential to overthrow the secular government replacing it with a fascist theocracy reminiscent of what we see in Iran today. Mubarak is mindfull of what took place in Jordan during Black September 1970 . He will not allow a repeat of that hence the blockade . Nothing more nothing less.Radical Islamist terror network or not - Hamas have been democratically elected by their people. The UN ruled the elections as valid and Jimmy Carter was the head of the validation committee. The west wasn't happy with this , and as usual, we are sticking our noses where we are not wanted. It is the same with Iran, we are accusing them of having WMD's, but everyone knows Israel has the biggest arsenal of WMD's in the region. Cannot see the zionists allowing us to go into that illegal state though. We in the west ultimately want to have arab leaders that are puppets and do as the zionists say. The arabs don't invade European countries because we have nuclear weapons and force regime change, so why should we go there and interfere. Live and let live Even the BNP (who I'm not a supporter of) want us to stop interfering where we are not wanted i.e. Iraq, Iran and so on The billions we would save would be better spent in the UK.
outspoken, bradford says...
8:18am Sun 3 Jan 10
thecitygent, Shipley says...
11:16am Sun 3 Jan 10
outspoken wrote:Please keep us updated of progress. Bradford saves the world but don't let the women mingle with non-believers at home.
Latest from the convoys website...  The boats were loaded with aid today and ready to leave for AL Arish, the plan was that we would meet them there, as we would fly to Al Arish and arrive before the boats. However, the update is that the Israelis have just announced that they will be performing military operations in these waters and therefore the aid has no way of passing through these waters. So there is no point getting flights to Al Arish tomorrow as the aid wont be arriving. Of course, it now seems highly unlikely that we will get to the Rafah crossing between the 3rd and 6th when Egypt said the gates would be open to us. The Convoy is now brought to a total standstill. The Israelis have pulled a very dirty tactic here if what we are hearing is true. For now this is all we are hearing. More updates when we get them. Derry to Gaza Team 
cheelvis, bradford says...
11:27am Sun 3 Jan 10
outspoken, bradford says...
11:52am Sun 3 Jan 10
outspoken, bradford says...
12:43pm Sun 3 Jan 10
cheelvis wrote:Ha ha indeed , I think the listings in the *unday sport will be more your likeing!!!
Boring , who cares , not m eI don,t care at all about them ha ha ha
harvela, London says...
1:09pm Sun 3 Jan 10
t'old man, bradford says...
2:43pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Iona Cortina wrote:remain silent !!!!!!! who the hell do you you think you are ? and as for being "sad" you want to take a long look in the mirror......
harvela wrote: Iona Cortina Interesting that you should dwell on the term Pallywood while choosing to ignore the fact that Galloway is prepared to risk the whole operation rather then simply have the provisions placed in the hands of UNWRA. Not that UNWRA has any real control of final distribution . Hamas seized part of the last Viva Gaza shipment breaking into UNWRAs bonded warehouses and claiming the food and medicines for Hamas fighters and their families. A repulsive act but unsurprising given Hamas treatment of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza in 2007 Galloway will shortly resume his role as a mouthpiece for tyranny on Press TV . Perhaps that bothers you as little as the reality of Gaza and the misguided gestures of naive dupes who put adventurism and You Tube imagery first rather then take Route One to Gaza. Quite sad really.Either back up what you've said (re. the so-called looting), or remain silent. . It seems your ignorance (and hatred) of the Palestinians knows no bounds. *That's* sad.
jimmyblue, Bradford says...
3:36pm Mon 4 Jan 10
albion, west riding says...
3:54pm Mon 4 Jan 10
jimmyblue wrote:Cut the profanities if you wish to be taken seriously, everyone knows the convoys are just a means of self publicity.
For all you Wannabe reporters, go see first hand what is going out there...!!...i was one of those that travelled out on the first convoy early last year..It is not the rebels or hamas that ambush these convoys, its the isrealis and the egyptians.. Did you knw that libya donated 100 trucks of medical aid on the first convoy only for them trucks to be taken off the convoy by the egyptian government and parked in a football stadium for there own use along with other medical donations from other countries that have been handed over to UNWRA...so tell me what good has that done...My hat goes off to galloway on those people that have taken time out to deliver and hand over medical aid to people who really need it..I have a friend on the current convoy who spent £8000 of his money, who has taken time off work to buy vital medical aid. I too wld want to see it delivered directly to the people who need it and not stuck on a football pitch under covers....
So all you f****rs against that, lets see if you would risk your own life to help others, No you fckng wldnt, u just sit on your arses and believe wat the media say and portray...ive seen it first hand, been there whilst bombs have being going off, how isreal and america influence what goes in to GAZA...
so those of you that have commented negatively about this post go fck yourselves
t'old man, bradford says...
7:31pm Mon 4 Jan 10
jimmyblue wrote:freedom of speech sunshine if you dont like what you read dont read it !!!
For all you Wannabe reporters, go see first hand what is going out there...!!...i was one of those that travelled out on the first convoy early last year..It is not the rebels or hamas that ambush these convoys, its the isrealis and the egyptians.. Did you knw that libya donated 100 trucks of medical aid on the first convoy only for them trucks to be taken off the convoy by the egyptian government and parked in a football stadium for there own use along with other medical donations from other countries that have been handed over to UNWRA...so tell me what good has that done...My hat goes off to galloway on those people that have taken time out to deliver and hand over medical aid to people who really need it..I have a friend on the current convoy who spent £8000 of his money, who has taken time off work to buy vital medical aid. I too wld want to see it delivered directly to the people who need it and not stuck on a football pitch under covers.... So all you f****rs against that, lets see if you would risk your own life to help others, No you fckng wldnt, u just sit on your arses and believe wat the media say and portray...ive seen it first hand, been there whilst bombs have being going off, how isreal and america influence what goes in to GAZA... so those of you that have commented negatively about this post go fck yourselves
webess, says...
8:20pm Mon 4 Jan 10
cheelvis, bradford says...
9:50am Tue 5 Jan 10
denis court, says...
3:05pm Tue 5 Jan 10
webess wrote:are they them special 'halal' sweets that someone muttered over religiously during their manufacture?
Anyone see "Ross Kemp in Gaza" on Sunday night? There doesn't seem to be any problems smuggling goods into Gaza through tunnels. They even had sweets made in Halifax for sale..
albion, west riding says...
11:20am Wed 6 Jan 10
MyleftPenguin, Bradford says...
12:44pm Wed 6 Jan 10
jimmyblue wrote:Thanks for passing on the excellent news, I'm so glad the aid got put to good use by the Egyptians rather than being allowed to fall into the hands of the terrorist scum in Gaza. You've made my day.
For all you Wannabe reporters, go see first hand what is going out there...!!...i was one of those that travelled out on the first convoy early last year..It is not the rebels or hamas that ambush these convoys, its the isrealis and the egyptians.. Did you knw that libya donated 100 trucks of medical aid on the first convoy only for them trucks to be taken off the convoy by the egyptian government and parked in a football stadium for there own use along with other medical donations from other countries that have been handed over to UNWRA...so tell me what good has that done...My hat goes off to galloway on those people that have taken time out to deliver and hand over medical aid to people who really need it..I have a friend on the current convoy who spent £8000 of his money, who has taken time off work to buy vital medical aid. I too wld want to see it delivered directly to the people who need it and not stuck on a football pitch under covers.... So all you f****rs against that, lets see if you would risk your own life to help others, No you fckng wldnt, u just sit on your arses and believe wat the media say and portray...ive seen it first hand, been there whilst bombs have being going off, how isreal and america influence what goes in to GAZA... so those of you that have commented negatively about this post go fck yourselves
PTN, Bradford says...
11:33am Thu 7 Jan 10
cheelvis wrote:WELL STOP READING IT. LOG OFF.
This is so dull..please listen carefully.....I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM OR THE CONVOY..stop boring me with it
Snailryder, Blackburn, UK says...
12:03am Mon 18 Jan 10
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outspoken, bradford says...
10:48am Fri 1 Jan 10