MP defiant over equality (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Shipley MP Philip Davies continues fight against political correctness
9:55am Tuesday 22nd December 2009 in News
By Marc Meneaud, Aire Valley Chief Reporter
Shipley MP Philip Davies
Shipley MP Philip Davies has vowed to continue his campaign against political correctness following criticism that he bombarded the equalities watchdog with “bizarre” inquiries.
Among the questions he asked the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) was “is it offensive to black up?”
And in one of a series of 18 letters sent since April 2008, he also questioned whether it was right to take disciplinary action against a police chief for describing a BMW car as “black man’s wheels”.
Mr Davies said: “I have never hidden the fact I want to tackle the scourge of political correctness.
“I make no apology for highlighting inconsistencies in the way issues of political correctness are dealt with.”
Among correspondence sent to the EHRC, Mr Davies asked: l Whether the Metropolitan Black Police Association breaches discrimination law.
l Whether it was legal for a job advert to specify that applicants had to be female and/or black or of an ethnic minority.
l Whether a “Miss White Britain” contest or a “White Power List” would be racist.
l Whether anti-discrimination laws ought to be extended “to cover bald people.”
Mr Davies said he had had “some success” in his campaign after the Decibel Penguin Prize, a short story competition for black and Asian writers, was forced to change its entry criteria.
He said: “A lot of damage is done to race relations and community cohesion when action is not taken against organisations which discriminate against white people and I am determined to do something about it.”
A spokesman for the EHRC said: “We are a public body, accountable to parliament and to MPs and we will continue to answer Mr Davies’s letters as we would any other MP.”
Comments(29)
Biker71
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10:33am Tue 22 Dec 09
albion
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11:42am Tue 22 Dec 09
albion
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11:43am Tue 22 Dec 09
T'observer
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12:33pm Tue 22 Dec 09
T'observer
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12:33pm Tue 22 Dec 09
fairweather fan
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1:08pm Tue 22 Dec 09
albion
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1:38pm Tue 22 Dec 09
fairweather fan wrote:If that is your opinion then think hard as to whether you wish to remain in this country, because come the next election this "complete moron" and his cronies will be running this country and if they dont come up with remedies for the questions he is asking then a much more extreme group are waiting in the wings, think on this, if things hadnt been allowed to get to the stage where he is just asking what others are thinking then there woulnt be these problems.
Like most Tories he simply has no awareness of the real issues. He lives in cloud cuckoo land, spouting about political correctness without actually understanding it. Its like Shipley voted for a human version of the Sun newspaper. He is a complete moron.
rouster
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2:12pm Tue 22 Dec 09
BMW - how many white owners would be offended? and Germans? Anyway its as amusing as a bomb at a funeral, and policemen have a duty to be funny.
As an actor it used to be OK to black up: very few black parts anyway, and no black actors. Now thank goodness there is no need to because there are MORE BLACK ACTORS. Anyway who wants to look like a white man with polish on his face?
The MET is 95% white: it IS the White Police Association.
Can he give examples of bald people being discriminated against? No; he's just trying to be clever, and failing miserably.
'Political correctness' is a term made up by the papers. No one in real life ever uses it as a serious expression, and the ignorant suffix it with 'gone mad'. Its about whether you include people, listen to them and act on what you hear. Just try replacing it with the term 'social awareness'. And for goodness sake stop legitimising these shallow thinkers standing for your vote.
Councillor Vanda Greenwood
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5:23pm Tue 22 Dec 09
ShipleyMum
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9:32am Wed 23 Dec 09
albion
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11:11am Wed 23 Dec 09
ShipleyMum wrote:I want answers to those questions and I am pleased he is asking them (whatever you claim his motives might be).
I am very upset that someone who is supposed to be representing Shipley is using his position as MP to carry out his father's campaign against political correctness and no doubt using our tax money to pay his wife to post these letters for him! Philip Davies is no more a Tory than Tony Benn for goodness sake, he would be more at home in his father's party! In answer to Cllr Greenwoods question the only thing he has done for Shipley is use the place for his own ends and he has shown how ignorant he really is. He will use this campaign to get the BNP vote and then he will revert back to letting his wife do his job for him.
ShipleyMum
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11:55am Wed 23 Dec 09
Skagbagger
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11:57am Wed 23 Dec 09
rouster wrote:Good on him for having the balls to ask the questions so many of us also want to know the answers to. In many industries and services including my own, job after job vacancy is advertised stating "We particularly encourage applications from females and ethnic minorities." Why? They use the guise of "positive discrimination" (a ridiculous contradiction in itself) however surely a job should be secured by the applicant on merit and suitability for role, not any sex or ethnicity criteria. If they are under represented in that post, is it not because they have not attained the standard required to carry out the role having applied or simply not having applied in the first place?? I have friends from ethnic minorities who openly mock the system, laughing ironically at the ethnic majority because they know and say that if they apply for whatever role, their application will be enhanced simply by ticking a different box to others.
The point is, if he needs to ask these questions he is more stupid and uninformed than he looks. Example: NO it is not unlawful to advertise for a black person, or a woman, or a Christian as long as its a genuine occupational requirement - men working at a rape crisis centre? Whites working in Asian areas for social services who can't speak Bengali? A muslim organist in your local C of E? It is sensibly enshrined in both race and sex discrimination law. BMW - how many white owners would be offended? and Germans? Anyway its as amusing as a bomb at a funeral, and policemen have a duty to be funny. As an actor it used to be OK to black up: very few black parts anyway, and no black actors. Now thank goodness there is no need to because there are MORE BLACK ACTORS. Anyway who wants to look like a white man with polish on his face? The MET is 95% white: it IS the White Police Association. Can he give examples of bald people being discriminated against? No; he's just trying to be clever, and failing miserably. 'Political correctness' is a term made up by the papers. No one in real life ever uses it as a serious expression, and the ignorant suffix it with 'gone mad'. Its about whether you include people, listen to them and act on what you hear. Just try replacing it with the term 'social awareness'. And for goodness sake stop legitimising these shallow thinkers standing for your vote.
albion
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12:15pm Wed 23 Dec 09
ShipleyMum wrote:I doubt anyone could answer such a question as the Commons deals MAINLY in generalisations than specifics, one could ask what good Chris Leslie or Marcus Fox did!
Thats fair enough Albion but what good does it do for Shipley? His father is the Mayor of Doncaster and he thinks we should all learn family values from the Taliban for pity's sake. Philip Davies is out for himself and no-one else. I would love to hear an answer to Cllr Greenwoods question but I think its a question that will stump everyone unfortunately!
At least Mr Davies is on a much larger number of committees and has asked more questions than the average, according to government figures.
One might also ask what good Councillor Greenwood and her bunch of cronies have done ( you only have to look at the wonders of Bradford or read what everyone else thinks of it).
Councillor Vanda Greenwood
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12:25pm Wed 23 Dec 09
.... As for the wonders of Bradford and the cronies you refer to - Bradford Council is run by a Tory/Lib Dem coalition - so, a combination of that and a Tory MP, how does Shipley benefit???
albion
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1:05pm Wed 23 Dec 09
Councillor Vanda Greenwood wrote:It wasnt always run by THAT coalition, Bingley relief road that leads to another gridlock, a world heritage village with no proper visitors centre and very few facilities for visitors (he also lived in it) I would think the schools thing would have happened without the input of the self aggrandizing Chris.
I dont really understand the first part of your comment but as for Chris Leslie I can tell you some of the things he did, 1. 2 new schools in first and second tranch of the Labour Governments BSF programme (salts and beckfoot) 2. He was instrumental in obtaining world heritage status for Saltaire, 3. Bingley relief road................
.... As for the wonders of Bradford and the cronies you refer to - Bradford Council is run by a Tory/Lib Dem coalition - so, a combination of that and a Tory MP, how does Shipley benefit???
Dont assume that I am a Tory supporter, but I definitely support this guy asking the questions he is doing, they are the type of questions that ordinary people are asking.
Councillor Vanda Greenwood
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1:15pm Wed 23 Dec 09
albion
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1:30pm Wed 23 Dec 09
Councillor Vanda Greenwood wrote:No you cant!
I respect your comments and asume then that you would rather have an MP who is on loads of committees and asks loads of questions than someone who actually does something for Shipley. Can I also asume you are not a Shipley resident!
Councillor Vanda Greenwood
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1:34pm Wed 23 Dec 09
albion
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1:44pm Wed 23 Dec 09
Councillor Vanda Greenwood wrote:Seasons greetings to you (and everyone) it is nice to know that some people still accept each others point of view without resorting to less pleasant reactions.
Mmmm! Fair enough. Merry Christmas anyway!!!
Alex_Ross
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4:59pm Wed 23 Dec 09
It's become increasingly obvious Davies is just using Shipley for a soap-box to rant about his own obsessions. He's made it clear that he was obsessed about 'political correctness' well before he became an MP.
People in Shipley want to know what their MP thinks about the global economic recession (He's a complete free marketer so would have let Bradford & Bingley collapse), climate change (He thinks it doesn't exist) and the rest.
Instead he talks about his support for fox hunting and blacking up. Even his own party think he is ridiculous.
He'd join UKIP but he doesn't think he can win unless he stays in the Tory party - whose interest is that in?
albion
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5:42pm Wed 23 Dec 09
Alex_Ross wrote:As you are a member of Shipley Labour Party and one of their council hopefuls it isnt expected that you would find anything complimentary to say about anyone or anything other than your Brownite comrades.
I thought Philip's motto was 'Your interests, not self-interests'? Perhaps he'd like to speak to all the black people in Shipley and explain how it is in their interest that he bombards the head of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission with questions on 'blacking up'?
It's become increasingly obvious Davies is just using Shipley for a soap-box to rant about his own obsessions. He's made it clear that he was obsessed about 'political correctness' well before he became an MP.
People in Shipley want to know what their MP thinks about the global economic recession (He's a complete free marketer so would have let Bradford & Bingley collapse), climate change (He thinks it doesn't exist) and the rest.
Instead he talks about his support for fox hunting and blacking up. Even his own party think he is ridiculous.
He'd join UKIP but he doesn't think he can win unless he stays in the Tory party - whose interest is that in?
Alex_Ross
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5:56pm Wed 23 Dec 09
press.com/
I'm 'fairly' sure that many more people in Shipley than just Labour party members find the fact that their MP writing letters asking why it's wrong to 'black up' is ridiculous and does no good for people in Shipley.
As you seem confused as to why blacking up is offensive I'll point you in the direction of a few helpful links:
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2009/dec/21/philip-d
avies-political-corr
ectness
http://www.newstates
man.com/blogs/the-st
aggers/2009/12/black
-offensive-tory-whit
e
The history of 'blacking up' was to represent black people as a sort of low-intelligence happy-go-lucky type who danced for the amusement of (white) others.
So even if someone doesn't intend to acknowledge this history when 'blacking up' it is, like it or not, the cultural connotation that goes with it.
Hence why the vast majority of the public respect this and don't do it.
albion
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6:15pm Wed 23 Dec 09
Alex_Ross wrote:I suspect a good number of them dont do it to appease the PC brigade, but that isnt the topic here, if someone mentioned a subject to him is he not right to ask relevant questions (that could be the reason he asks them, can you prove otherwise?).
Far from it, as you'd know if you read my blog: http://alexross.word
press.com/
I'm 'fairly' sure that many more people in Shipley than just Labour party members find the fact that their MP writing letters asking why it's wrong to 'black up' is ridiculous and does no good for people in Shipley.
As you seem confused as to why blacking up is offensive I'll point you in the direction of a few helpful links:
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2009/dec/21/philip-d
avies-political-corr
ectness
http://www.newstates
man.com/blogs/the-st
aggers/2009/12/black
-offensive-tory-whit
e
The history of 'blacking up' was to represent black people as a sort of low-intelligence happy-go-lucky type who danced for the amusement of (white) others.
So even if someone doesn't intend to acknowledge this history when 'blacking up' it is, like it or not, the cultural connotation that goes with it.
Hence why the vast majority of the public respect this and don't do it.
Anyway it gave you an excuse to promote the spam.
Alex_Ross
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10:52am Thu 24 Dec 09
As would the opening paragraph of this article which says he 'vows to continue HIS political correctness campaign'.
He also went on BBC radio to talk about it and didn't once mention acting on constituents behalf.
I've spoken to hundreds of constituents personally and as not one of them has ever mentioned political correctness to me as an issue that concerns them most in the constituency this is hardly a surprise!
I also think it's ridiculous to suggest a 'good number' of the public don't black up for parties to 'please the PC brigade!'
Merry Christmas nonetheless!
albion
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11:33am Thu 24 Dec 09
Alex_Ross wrote:We will see come polling day!
Albion, whoever you really are, I suspect the line 'Can you explain why blacking up is offensive as I have never really understood this?' would prove that Davies is doing this under his own steam.
As would the opening paragraph of this article which says he 'vows to continue HIS political correctness campaign'.
He also went on BBC radio to talk about it and didn't once mention acting on constituents behalf.
I've spoken to hundreds of constituents personally and as not one of them has ever mentioned political correctness to me as an issue that concerns them most in the constituency this is hardly a surprise!
I also think it's ridiculous to suggest a 'good number' of the public don't black up for parties to 'please the PC brigade!'
Merry Christmas nonetheless!
Greetings to you and indeed to ALL.
cheelvis
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11:20am Mon 28 Dec 09
Keep up the good work mate
T'observer
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9:38pm Wed 30 Dec 09
Mik_e says...
10:10am Tue 22 Dec 09