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Bradford police chief puts Prime Minister on the spot

Chief Superintendent Alison Rose, Divisional Commander of Bradford South Police Chief Superintendent Alison Rose, Divisional Commander of Bradford South Police

The city’s police chief has warned Prime Minister Gordon Brown that a lack of powers to control criminals who would previously have been sent to prison is “causing chaos” in Bradford.

Chief Superintendent Alison Rose, the divisional commander of Bradford South Police, was speaking at the question and answer session with the PM in the city yesterday.

The event, hosted by the Telegraph & Argus at the National Media Museum, was a chance for guests to quiz the Prime Minister.

Chief Supt Rose said that managing offenders in the community rather than sending them to prison was making the police’s job more difficult.

She said a number of reviews all talked about not sending people to prison.

She said: “We are a big advocate here of integrated offender management, and that has been successful. But I have the responsibility of managing an active criminal population that a couple of years ago would have been in prison and I don’t have the powers to control those active offenders.

“I have a lot of support from my local partners, we have drug interventions here, which are very successful and we are just starting alcohol interventions, but the legislation that I need is 40 years out of date.

“Can you please have a look at the Bail Act and the conditions that I can put on active offenders? These are the people that are living on the streets of Bradford and they are causing chaos.

“This leads to a lack of confidence in the criminal justice system and a lack of confidence in the police. I really urge you to have a look at this because the under-12-month prison population is here, it’s real and I am trying to manage it but I don’t have the powers.”

Mr Brown promised to respond further in writing. He said: “I can see that you are trying to keep people out of prison but having to deal with the problem where you don’t have the powers to discipline them properly – and I accept that.”

The question came at the end of a lively session when Mr Brown offered to take extra questions and although he said he would not be able to answer them fully, he would write to the questioners with more detailed responses.

Councillor Kris Hopkins, leader of the Council, said: “If a professional such as Alison Rose is calling for changes then I absolutely support her. I will be writing to her myself to ask for fuller details of what she wants to change.

“If there is no room in prisons or we are saying we want to deal with offenders in the community then the police needs powers to deal with these people.”

Councillor Ian Greenwood, Labour leader on Bradford Council, was at the event. He said later: “One of the most infuriating things is when the police do their job and arrest someone and that person is out on the streets and in some cases re-offends.”

Liberal Democrat group leader Jeanette Sunderland, who could not attend yesterday, said: “One of the successes in Bradford has been the positive work to get people into jobs and housing and support them to show that a life of crime leads nowhere. Anything that can allow more of that good work would be welcome.”

Comments(14)

albion says...
12:21pm Fri 23 Oct 09

It makes a change to hear the Police admit to a problem, i must agree though that the justice system is letting both them and us down.

g-daffi says...
12:22pm Fri 23 Oct 09

Panto seasons started early this year.

ItchyBungle says...
12:27pm Fri 23 Oct 09

This is completely new, the police asking for more powers to do the job that they already have enough powers for... no wait, it is the same old story. There is nothing in this story to substantiate why she wants these extra powers other than to say that there are criminals who have come out of prison and now live in the community and that they may re-engage in crime again.

I am getting sick to death of hearing the police want more power. The key word here is 'POWER' and not authority. What the police want is more protection so that they cannot be held to account if something goes wrong and that is wanting more legislation. There are a number of bodies set up to work with people who are leaving/recently left prison so really what this police officer is saying is that they are not doing their job and rather than asking for more support for them, she wants more power! Not a clear message really is it?

DavidLA says...
12:33pm Fri 23 Oct 09

I'm sorry but the reason I don't have confidence in our Police, is because of the excuses and lack of interest when you call them out.

One officer says one thing, another can't be bothered.

And if you dare complain they haven't done their job, expect a very long wait for a very poor and inaccurate response.

No disrespects to the Divisional Commander, but if she wants to keep more criminals off the streets of Bradford, then put the wind of God up them by policing the area properly.

It's alright blaming the Courts, but the police have to arrest the criminals in the first place.

Joedavid says...
1:19pm Fri 23 Oct 09

The Police should get onto the streets and open their eyes and arrest the law breakers what ever colour skin they got.
The public can see the law being broken so why not the police?

Welcome To The New World Order says...
2:47pm Fri 23 Oct 09

We need 10 times more Coppers on the beat, 10 times more CCTV cameras, and 10 times more prisons. There also needs to be much greater discipline in schools, more effective sentencing by the Courts, and an end to criminals being released early from prison.

Scopex says...
3:48pm Fri 23 Oct 09

An absolute minimum of a mandatory doubling of a criminals last sentence with no parole for each subsequent crime would help solve the downward spiral in law and order in this godforsaken country.

finemess says...
6:57pm Fri 23 Oct 09

The police service is an appalling mess run by people who have learned their policing methods from a book rather than on the front line.
The PCSO's are clueless and have no real powers or authority and haven't the skills to prepare court papers.
The real PC's are bone idle and are ony interested in the power kick they get from the uniform they wear. If its anything more than an easy fixed penalty to write out you are laughing because the effort of making an arrest, interviewing and charging is behond not just there intellect but far too much effort for them.Most of them are only fit to man the doors of a low grade nightclub!
They are certainly not worth the wages they are paid and I would hope that as we are in recession the police pay ic capped at the present level for five years! Most of them are obtaining their wages by deception!lol

guggsy says...
7:44pm Fri 23 Oct 09

Welcome To The New World Order wrote:
We need 10 times more Coppers on the beat, 10 times more CCTV cameras, and 10 times more prisons. There also needs to be much greater discipline in schools, more effective sentencing by the Courts, and an end to criminals being released early from prison.
There are far more police on our streets than there has ever been.PCSOs were introduced to do the 'paperwork' that the regulars used to use as an excuse not to patrol our streets.However our bradford police force has resulted in becoming nothing more than a reactive security firm who only protect the middle-classes.The average working person is subjected to car crime(insurance dodgers),theft,burgl
ary and violent incidents yet 9 times out of ten are given a crime number and forgotten about.I see the police are big on binge drinking and policing football matches, being heavy handed with people who havent even commited offences thrusting cameras in faces yet violent city centre crimes and racist attacks on white people by mobs are swept under the carpet for fear of a 'community' backlashes.The police lost this city years ago and are happy sat in cars,vans and the fort knox police station picking up there 20k salaries(credit crunch dodgers).

yezboss says...
9:16am Sat 24 Oct 09

There are far more police on our streets than there has ever been.PCSOs were introduced to do the 'paperwork'

guggsy
If I understand you correctly.
Sorry you are wrong, the PCSO's were not employed to do police paperwork/inside work, civilians were, they were employed to show a presence on the street and assist outside patrols with visible awareness. Correct though their powers are minimal and rightly so, they are the retrained traffic wardens, those who did not go to the council parking team anyway.
Sad when they were employed they did not employ constable instead, we have spent enough on those PCSO's to pay 20000 PC's! What a waste.

spinnekop says...
1:10pm Sat 24 Oct 09

Can someone take the frustration and downright blind anger from the police that deal with me when I am 'ill'. I am sick of the 'I am holier than thou' attitude and acompinying violence that I suffer each time the police dicide to attend when they are not welcome.

I have met good police officers, and I have at least one PCSO to thank for me being able to type this.

The problem is not the power they have, its how they use the responsability.

When I am scared and broken I need help. My expirience is 2% of attending officers empathise. The rest use twisted concepts of their assesmnt and destroy the trust I have no more.

Old saying, 'do right, n you will be done right by'

Jesus said it a differnt way, same rule my love.

If the police want something to do, go arrests the bankers for crimes against humanity.

guggsy says...
1:32pm Sat 24 Oct 09

yezboss wrote:
There are far more police on our streets than there has ever been.PCSOs were introduced to do the 'paperwork' guggsy If I understand you correctly. Sorry you are wrong, the PCSO's were not employed to do police paperwork/inside work, civilians were, they were employed to show a presence on the street and assist outside patrols with visible awareness. Correct though their powers are minimal and rightly so, they are the retrained traffic wardens, those who did not go to the council parking team anyway. Sad when they were employed they did not employ constable instead, we have spent enough on those PCSO's to pay 20000 PC's! What a waste.
I actually don't have an issue with the PCSO's as they are more prominent in the community than the regulars and also have a more human and less robotic nature when dealing with crime.

Welcome To The New World Order says...
12:29pm Mon 26 Oct 09

guggsy wrote:
Welcome To The New World Order wrote:
We need 10 times more Coppers on the beat, 10 times more CCTV cameras, and 10 times more prisons. There also needs to be much greater discipline in schools, more effective sentencing by the Courts, and an end to criminals being released early from prison.
There are far more police on our streets than there has ever been.PCSOs were introduced to do the 'paperwork' that the regulars used to use as an excuse not to patrol our streets.However our bradford police force has resulted in becoming nothing more than a reactive security firm who only protect the middle-classes.The average working person is subjected to car crime(insurance dodgers),theft,burgl

ary and violent incidents yet 9 times out of ten are given a crime number and forgotten about.I see the police are big on binge drinking and policing football matches, being heavy handed with people who havent even commited offences thrusting cameras in faces yet violent city centre crimes and racist attacks on white people by mobs are swept under the carpet for fear of a 'community' backlashes.The police lost this city years ago and are happy sat in cars,vans and the fort knox police station picking up there 20k salaries(credit crunch dodgers).
There's only one Community Police Officer for my entire neighbourhood, and as I recently reported a crime but got no answer until a week later when I discovered the one Officer is on holiday, no one else has followed up the crime report, it is apparent that we need more Officers o the beat. There ought to be one for each street, never mind each neighbourhood.

cheelvis says...
5:31pm Wed 28 Oct 09

Perhaps the senior police officers should realise that crime is 24/7 not juts 9 x 5 days and get some of her staff out of the office when its dark and ontothe streets. And get rid of those waste of timer plastic police , no use nor ornament...only ever see them in a police car now.

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