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Heritage report concludes repairs alone would cost £6m


A new report into the condition of the derelict former Odeon cinema in Bradford city centre has concluded that it is not economically viable to retain any of it.

Details of the heritage statement – which accompanies developer Langtree Artisan’s bid to demolish the 1930s building and carry out a £40 million development of the site – have emerged ahead of a key meeting tomorrow.

Bradford Council’s regulatory and appeals committee is being recommended to approve the redevelopment designs and also give conservation area consent for the Odeon’s demolition.

Experts were called in to assess the merits of four options for retaining the Prince’s Way facade and the twin towers but have concluded it is not financially viable and would cost the developers up to £13.9 million.

The statement has concluded that significant structural constraints and cost implications outweigh any perceived positive benefits of retaining the old building’s features.

The report goes on to say that the domes would have to be demolished to roof level to replace the steelwork, the facade would need to be underpinned and substantially altered to include windows for a modern office use and the flexibility of the office space would be compromised. The repair work alone would cost about £6 million, it says.

It concluded that any such development would prove unviable from both a funding and letting perspective and would impinge on the financial viability of the entire development proposal.

In addition, a second report concerning possible leisure uses for the Odeon site refers to the findings of previous feasibility studies for a concert hall in the city centre.

“The reports demonstrate that the Bradford Odeon site will not make a viable modern concert hall or conference facility,” it states.

Dave Rolinson, chairman of Spawforth Planning Consultants, which commissioned the reports on behalf of Langtree Artisan, said: “Given the significant structural, architectural and economic challenges and the excessive costs required to refurbish the building, it is evident that the demolition of the building is justified.”

Langtree Artisan's mixed-use plans for the development of the site feature four buildings which would provide office space, apartments, a hotel and a restaurant.

A decision will be made at City Hall at tomorrow’s meeting which starts at 10.30am. There have been more than 1,300 objections in total across both applications, including from the Bradford Odeon Rescue Group.

Who has written the report?

The heritage statement has been prepared by commercial agents Colliers CRE, one of the UK’s top real estate advisory firms.

The leisure uses report has been written by Locum Consulting, part of Colliers.

Locum provides Colliers clients with strategic management consultancy on the development of destinations.

Locum has previously written a report on tourism in the district for the Council.

Comments(29)

PHILISAN says...
8:36am Tue 22 Sep 09

...Seems that the developers have this all 'stitched up'.How odd when through out Yorkshire and indeed the UK,old delapidated historical buildings are being redeveloped and restored to their former glory. Another chance to preserve a part of Bradford's past appears no more than the mirage which is sweeping this ruined city.As for costs,why not re-develope using the vast numbers of people locally out of work in a 'pilot' scheme of retraining under professional supervision..in other words,a 'people' project.

c/pot says...
9:18am Tue 22 Sep 09

Why not tell the vast majority of people in Bradford something we didnt know,get on with pulling it down asap.

WYSIWYG says...
10:09am Tue 22 Sep 09

pulling it down would just fit in right now as most of the city centre just seems to be one massive building site.

Jdendesign says...
10:14am Tue 22 Sep 09

let's take a qiuck vote, who would rather keep the towers and not bother with the pond that is planned for the square. sure thats costing more than 14m. i know i would

Apollo says...
10:19am Tue 22 Sep 09

£14m to retain two existing towers - the only word that comes to mind is ****.

This is yet more scare tactics to ensure that the entire building is bulldozed.

Defend the £14m if you dare.

obe says...
10:45am Tue 22 Sep 09

I have just read this story and agree that this is scaring tactics from the council. I am not racist but would there be such a discussion if the money was to be used for another mosque for the city? We need to keep our heritage and who is there to do this? I am deeply worried for our grandchildrens and beyond generations there will be nothing recognisable left for them.

albion says...
10:47am Tue 22 Sep 09

I would have preferred to have retained the whole building but if that is not to be i see little point in keeping the towers.

Mekon says...
11:20am Tue 22 Sep 09

Get on with removing it please. Its not a treasure of Bradford. Yes some people want to keep it, and its easy to say that it can be saved and used somehow, but are they putting the money in?

eldraco says...
11:47am Tue 22 Sep 09

Mekon wrote:
Get on with removing it please. Its not a treasure of Bradford. Yes some people want to keep it, and its easy to say that it can be saved and used somehow, but are they putting the money in?
What IS the treasure of Bradford, just out of interest?

Mekon says...
12:52pm Tue 22 Sep 09

eldraco wrote:
Mekon wrote:
Get on with removing it please. Its not a treasure of Bradford. Yes some people want to keep it, and its easy to say that it can be saved and used somehow, but are they putting the money in?
What IS the treasure of Bradford, just out of interest?
There are many treasures in Bradford:

Wool Exchange
City Hall
Little Germany along with Eastbrook
The Alhambra Theatre

outside of Bradford center...

Cartwright hall
Lister Mill
Salts Mill

...there are lots more.

Moon on a stick says...
1:16pm Tue 22 Sep 09

And how many treasures did the city have before the 60's when the council last went on a spree of knocking buildings down to replace them with concrete blocks?
.
The city doesn't need a Leeds style office/apartment block that will look dated and run down in a decade.

Duke of Odsal says...
1:23pm Tue 22 Sep 09

This building has little if any architectural merit. The fact that one or two remember their first kiss on the back row does not make a building either worthy or treasured. This architecturally cliched monstrosity needs to go as soon as possible. Better a cleared site at this key location than a steadily crumbling eyesore!

tyker says...
2:13pm Tue 22 Sep 09

get 'em down

there is no heritage there.

i heard a strong rumour that the Cathedral is next on the list with the site being converted to the biggest mosque in the north

nevisthecat says...
2:20pm Tue 22 Sep 09

It is old, knackered and of little architectural merit. Why keep it? The building does not lend itself to conversion, the cost of retaining the not very impressive domes would suck out any profit in the development and I have yet to see a sensible, workable scheme from the Friends of the Odeon.

c/pot says...
2:22pm Tue 22 Sep 09

tyker wrote:
get 'em down there is no heritage there. i heard a strong rumour that the Cathedral is next on the list with the site being converted to the biggest mosque in the north
That wouldnt suprise me.

puddin says...
2:34pm Tue 22 Sep 09

If I remember the cost of developing the Alhambra was also relatively high but it is now a worthwhile addition to Bradfords building stock. The Odean if kept and developed in a similiar vein to the Alhambra will help undo what present developers and councillors have given us......just holes in the ground..... don't forget you councillors you are suppose to be working on for the people of Bradford and not the developers.

Mekon says...
2:45pm Tue 22 Sep 09

Moon on a stick wrote:
And how many treasures did the city have before the 60's when the council last went on a spree of knocking buildings down to replace them with concrete blocks?
.
The city doesn't need a Leeds style office/apartment block that will look dated and run down in a decade.
Yes I agree some great buildings have been torn down in the past, some like Busby's by fire, some bombed during the 2nd WW...and its a great shame.

Every city needs its share of office space - Bradford hasn't got much at the moment if you compare to other smaller cities...even if what it has at the moment isn't all being used. But it will.

reneeh1 says...
4:07pm Tue 22 Sep 09

This is what the Bfd Council have been waiting for.The desicration of our once beautiful city. Swan arcade demolished / the wool exchange modern windows in an old stone building. Kirgate market as we knew it has gone. What a waste of good space that was once the fish and veg market. Would you tell me when the Georges Hall is going and more high rise flats put up instead. Or have you something else in mind. I wish I had other peoples money to throw away. The old residents of Bradford have lost a lot of Bradfordians History

Moon on a stick says...
4:41pm Tue 22 Sep 09

Mekon wrote:
Moon on a stick wrote: And how many treasures did the city have before the 60's when the council last went on a spree of knocking buildings down to replace them with concrete blocks? . The city doesn't need a Leeds style office/apartment block that will look dated and run down in a decade.
Yes I agree some great buildings have been torn down in the past, some like Busby's by fire, some bombed during the 2nd WW...and its a great shame. Every city needs its share of office space - Bradford hasn't got much at the moment if you compare to other smaller cities...even if what it has at the moment isn't all being used. But it will.
Bradford has plenty of empty office space, there No 1 The Interchange, the building opposite, then up near where Equifax is, then down on the corner near YBS and that's just off the top of my head in 10 seconds of thinking.
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Bradford doesn't need more offices or 70 more flats to simply sit vacant.

tallulah says...
5:59pm Tue 22 Sep 09

stop wasting money on other rubbish - er mirror pool, blah blah blah then you would have the money, we don't need anymore offices or flats to stand empty, the whole town in a hole thanks to the council, how about pulling down city hall isn't that in the way?????

rongtw says...
6:09pm Tue 22 Sep 09

TBH the building itself is nowt special, and i love old archtecture but every time i go past it just looks a eyesore, so it matches everthing else in the city, the only good building job in the center was the old eastbrook hall building brilliant rebuilt but still empty !!
just pull it down half build it , then ask the council for a loan to finish it

Avro says...
6:25pm Tue 22 Sep 09

But who's fault is it that the Odeon building has been left idle for so long?

And as a result has brought us to the point we are now at...You don't have to look far!

It's nearly as commical as Fawlty Tower's!

ms walker says...
12:43am Wed 23 Sep 09

obe wrote:
I have just read this story and agree that this is scaring tactics from the council. I am not racist but would there be such a discussion if the money was to be used for another mosque for the city? We need to keep our heritage and who is there to do this? I am deeply worried for our grandchildrens and beyond generations there will be nothing recognisable left for them.
Mosques are privately funded, obe, as are all religious buildings except for those with listed status (they can apply for grants) so I think you've veered slightly off-topic. However I agree that heritage buildings should be kept, and to me, the Odeon is a beautiful heritage building which has, disgracefully, been allowed to become an eyesore by its administrators, Yorkshire Forward, to the detriment of our city.

I am not surprised that some people want to see it demolished - the lack of concern for the image of our city centre by Yorkshire Forward and BCR is tantamount to vandalism, and there has been a deliberate and systematic policy of allowing it to fall into such a state of disrepair that demolition would be welcomed.

I do not understand why our council has not pleaded with Yorkshire Forward for a concert hall and conference centre in Bradford. Leeds has so much, and now it is to have a big new venue as well? This site would have been ideal, and so far as I understand it, there has been no concrete evidence to the contrary.

I am incredibly disappointed in the lack of vision, bravery and honesty shown by key council members in their roles on the regeneration panel and I'm disgusted by the thoughtless and arrogant attitude of BCR and Yorkshire Forward towards my city. While they are spinning tales about living and working in the 'vibrant city of Bradford' on their website, I am making plans to move away, because these unscrupulous and unreliable public servants have destroyed the place I was happy to call my home.

I loathe each and every one of them for turning my city into a laughing stock and a hell-hole, but all I can do is express my utter disgust and disappointment on this site. Bradford Council - I'm ashamed of you.

ms walker says...
9:23am Wed 23 Sep 09

puddin wrote:
If I remember the cost of developing the Alhambra was also relatively high but it is now a worthwhile addition to Bradfords building stock. The Odean if kept and developed in a similiar vein to the Alhambra will help undo what present developers and councillors have given us......just holes in the ground..... don't forget you councillors you are suppose to be working on for the people of Bradford and not the developers.
Agreed, Puddin, but I see that they are fixed on a course of action and will not withdraw from it.

You mentioned the Alhambra, and although I couldn't find the cost of renovating it, I did find this on the Theatre's Trust website:

'An outstanding example of a theatre in what had appeared to be terminal decline re-established as a touring house of regional significance. The old city of Bradford had damaged itself severely in post-war years but the restoration of the theatre signalled (as it has elsewhere) a return of civic pride and confidence. It is sobering to think how recently its prominent site was seen as an ideal spot for a city centre car park.'

Plus ça change... :-(

matacaster says...
12:37pm Wed 23 Sep 09

I have the solution to the Odeon saga. Money no problem, everybody happy!

The Odeon has a large interior and two domes which could form the basis for a large city-centre mosque to be the Mecca (not the one on Manningham Lane) of the Northern hemisphere.

The council will stump up the cash. Odeon saved, put to good use, Muslims very happy, everybody happy.

Happy Eid!

albion says...
1:34pm Wed 23 Sep 09

matacaster wrote:
I have the solution to the Odeon saga. Money no problem, everybody happy!

The Odeon has a large interior and two domes which could form the basis for a large city-centre mosque to be the Mecca (not the one on Manningham Lane) of the Northern hemisphere.

The council will stump up the cash. Odeon saved, put to good use, Muslims very happy, everybody happy.

Happy Eid!
"Money no problem"? The council dont fund the building of religious buildings anyway.

Alex_Ross says...
6:46pm Wed 23 Sep 09

And where can we see this report for ourselves?

ms walker says...
8:57pm Wed 23 Sep 09

Alex_Ross wrote:
And where can we see this report for ourselves?
That's what I was wondering Alex. last time I looked they said it would cost £6million to refurbish, but that's before they realised that the Alhambra cost £8million in 1986...

Anyway, the bastards have got their way. They've passed a demolition order tonight in a travesty of a planning meeting.

I hate it here.

ms walker says...
8:59pm Wed 23 Sep 09

Goodness me! *blush* The filter isn't working very well tonight!



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