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Skipton mum's anger at Morrisons


A shocked mother has hit out at supermarket bosses after staff refused to sell her four cans of beer because they suspected she was buying them for her 15-year-old daughter.

Antonia Viner was at Morrisons in Skipton when she was asked to provide identification for her daughter Amber who was with her at the time.

Mrs Viner, a Skipton hairdresser, said she was buying four bottles of Sol for her husband, Mark, but staff refused to believe her. Now Mrs Viner, 36, has vowed never to return to the store as their “over-zealous” Think 25 Policy over alcohol sales makes it impossible to shop with children.

Mrs Viner said: “I got to the wines and spirits checkout and I was asked for ID. I thought it was funny and said ‘I think I’m old enough.’ Then I realised they wanted ID for Amber even though it was me who was buying the beers.

“Amber volunteered her bus pass but I thought they were being ridiculous, as they had no grounds whatsoever to think I was buying the alcohol for my daughter.

“Much to the embarrassment of my daughter, I asked to speak to the manager. A supervisor said they were following company policy, calling it the law.

“The supervisor suggested that if I wanted to purchase beer then we should perhaps leave the children in the car or worse still in the car park.

“It all got a bit heated and at one point a man shouted to me ‘Leave it love they are always doing it’. A client has also told me subsequently that it has happened to her.”

Her husband Mark, 43, a former Upper Wharfedale rugby player, said he had lodged an official complaint at Morrisons’ head office.

He said: “Antonia and I are responsible adults who try to educate our children in all aspects of life including consumption of alcohol. Part of this is the inclusion of our children in the process, that is shopping for it, keeping it in the fridge and then drinking it as responsibly as possible.”

A Morrisons spokesman said the company adhered to regulations barring stores from selling alcohol to adults whom they believed intended to supply to minors. “In this individual case as it was not possible to establish who the product was intended for, the store used its own judgement and refused sale,” said the spokesman.

“The store followed procedure. We apologise if the customer thought the store was being over-zealous in applying these rules. Morrisons welcomes families into all of its stores and does not have a policy where children should be left outside the store.

“We adhere to strict regulations regarding the sale of age restricted products. These rules are in place to protect our customers and their families, who in the majority of cases appreciate our vigilance in the sale of age-restricted products.”


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puddingandpi, Brighton says...
9:02pm Sun 12 Jul 09

At least this vaguely makes sense. Here in Brighton a Somerfield refused to sell wine to a 70 year old woman as she had no proof that she was over 18. Her 50 year daughter did have ID but they wouldn't sell it to her because they said she'd give it to her mother.
How mad is that!?

Storck, City Centre says...
9:18pm Sun 12 Jul 09

It is the same at Tesco. It causes no end of complaints and threats to staff.

Rambo, bradford says...
11:01pm Sun 12 Jul 09

Storck wrote:
It is the same at Tesco. It causes no end of complaints and threats to staff.
My friends disabled brother works at a Tesco and has been been attacked by yobs who waited for him after for not serving them booze. He's been threatened on other occasions but the management don't take it seriously.

People in these suprmarkets are just doing their job, and unfortunately they're first in the firing line if things go wrong.

Gaverz, Bradford says...
12:16am Mon 13 Jul 09

I've had this before, when working for Tesco. It is a tough call having to assess every customer as to whether (at the time they look over 21 - and now 25) and then who is the alcohol for. Asking for the ID in the first place is awkward both for the customer and the employee. It was and is company policy to back up employees if they reject a sale. I also know that supermarkets, pubs, clubs and off-licenses are routinely test purchased by the police and trading standards to ensure that alcohol is not sold to under 18s. I can understand the embaressment and frustration of the woman mentioned in this article but she also has to look at the bigger picture here and look at it from another point of view other than her own (to put it bluntly).

OLDLAD, SOUTH says...
8:37am Mon 13 Jul 09

If your read the signs at the checkouts it states you have to produce ID if you dont look 21. I always thought the law was 18!!

wrosegirl, Wrose says...
9:29am Mon 13 Jul 09

I think we need to have some patience with this new law. It's so easy now for a 16/17-year-old to look 21 that they've had to raise the bar. I have three kids. If this new law helps to cut back the crazy number of kids who are drinking in our parks, etc (and probably in turn prevents a lot of teen pregnancies!), then we need to support it and have some patience with it. Looking at the bigger picture, I don't mind having to go and buy my bottle of wine at a time when the kids aren't with me. It's a case of which scenario would we really rather have?

Biker71, Bradford says...
10:11am Mon 13 Jul 09

Its not just alcohol they are being pathetic about, my wife went to morrisons for some false nails for a night out, our 15 year old daughter was with her.
The checkout operator wouldnt sell her them as they contain a solvent based glue!, she accused my wife of buying them to give to our daughter...
When we complained to the manager we were accused of swearing at the cashier, so the standard self defense mechanism of attack was implemented purely to justify thier ridiculous stance..
We have never had a problem at Asda.

born n bred, bradford says...
10:44am Mon 13 Jul 09

It's like the whole new licensing law regulations, blame the seller not the purchaser. The law should be, if you buy booze knowing you are under age your the one prosecuted not the vender

NOTSOCOMMENSENSE, BINGLEY says...
11:14am Mon 13 Jul 09

THE LADY SAYS IN THE STORY SHE LETS HER KIDS HAVE ALCOHOL SO WHO IS WRONG,SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE STORE WAS CORRECT IN THEIR ASSUMPTION

ItchyBungle, Bradford says...
12:28pm Mon 13 Jul 09

I think this story is just pathetic. The story here is that someone got rfused a slae of alcohol (which is the store's right to refuse anyone) and in law (contract law in offer) there is a rule called invitation to treat, which was created so that stores can refuse to sell anything to anyone.

Why did this story even get printed? What a waste of time, resources, paper and memory on the website. This should a personal matter between Mrs Winer and the store.

Jaz.0127, Bradford says...
12:37pm Mon 13 Jul 09

I fully agree with you ItchyBungle what an absurd article - I bet the two dim wits pictured wanted their 5 minutes of fame I guess GET A LIFE...

Black Sheep, says...
1:05pm Mon 13 Jul 09

Don' blame the supermarkets blame the government who make these stupid laws! I know a friend who got fined, lost his job and ended up with a criminal record all for selling alcohol to an underage customer, so you can understand why cashiers ID anyone who looks under 25.

Coolibabe, Bradford says...
1:13pm Mon 13 Jul 09

It is about time people made up thier minds, one minuite we are accused of not knowing where our kids are and when we keep them with us we cant buy what we want. I go shopping for lager with my 16 years old who doesn't drink, I drink very rarely. If he did drink, I would sooner it was with me and not out on the street. We are parents we do not intend to harm our own kids. This is a prejudice against parents. Its about time these adults grew up.

David Crocket, Bradford says...
2:27pm Mon 13 Jul 09

I am with the store, kids will try every trick in the book to obtain alcohol if they want it badly enough,they stand at the entrances asking strangers to buy booze, if the child was found dead due to alcohol poisoning, and the Morrison's carrier bag found nearby, with the empty bottles, what would Mr and Mrs Viner say then? "they would scream murder",why did the store not check? maybe a better idea would be, is to determine the relationship between the adult and child, that to me might be a better approach all round.
better still make it illegal for parents to give kids booze before the age of eighteen.

Ali R, Shipley says...
2:40pm Mon 13 Jul 09

The alcohol laws in this country allow a child over the age of 5 (yes, five!) to drink alcohol at home under the supervision of a responsible adult.

When I was a child I was brought up in a pub which was run by my parents. I was taught from a young age about how to respect alcohol and drink responsibly, needless to say I have never binge drinked, stood on street corners drinking or been ill as a result of too much alcohol. In fact, I hardly drink alcohol as there has never been a novelty factor.

Morrisons were wrong to refuse this woman her sale of alcohol, the law states you must be over 18 to purchase alcohol, it was her buying the alcohol, not her daughter, and if she had left her daughter in the car or carpark and she'd been injured/abducted etc, we'd all be screaming blue murder at morrisons!

albion, west riding says...
3:08pm Mon 13 Jul 09

ItchyBungle wrote:
I think this story is just pathetic. The story here is that someone got rfused a slae of alcohol (which is the store's right to refuse anyone) and in law (contract law in offer) there is a rule called invitation to treat, which was created so that stores can refuse to sell anything to anyone.

Why did this story even get printed? What a waste of time, resources, paper and memory on the website. This should a personal matter between Mrs Winer and the store.
Exactly!

Fastnecker, Bolton says...
3:15pm Mon 13 Jul 09

Serves her right for marrying a bloke who drinks urine. She would never have had a problem if he drunk real ale.

Juice Terry, Oakworth says...
3:37pm Mon 13 Jul 09

She's a foxy looking lady. I'd buy her a drink.

Fastnecker, Bolton says...
3:42pm Mon 13 Jul 09

Suppose getting this pathetic story in the papers isn't a way of increasing the profile of her hairdressers is it?

oh no!!!!

Welcome To The New World Order, Bradford-on-sea says...
4:30pm Mon 13 Jul 09

Give the Supermarkets a miss and go to the Off Licence.

Patrick Bateman, says...
10:17am Wed 15 Jul 09

Juice Terry wrote:
She's a foxy looking lady. I'd buy her a drink.
Behave!

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Antonia Viner with her husband Mark Antonia Viner with her husband Mark

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