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Cab company boss dubs plan 'horrendous'


Taxis found to have “minor defects” during testing would be let back out onto the roads to carry passengers for a ten-day period of grace under controversial new proposals.

Martin Hamer, Bradford Coun-cil’s principal officer for fleet management, said the Council was considering giving drivers a “little more flexibility” without compromising on safety.

But controversy over the plan intensified when it emerged that Paul Mills, the Council’s hackney carriage and private hire manager, and Andrew Mellor, the unit’s senior licensing inspector, had been suspended.

The suspension of the two employees, who both have ten years’ experience in the hackney carriage unit, are understood to be connected to their opposition to the proposal.

At present, taxis found to have defects during their annual test must be repaired immediately before being allowed to carry passengers again.

But a new document proposes 19 “minor faults” that would not lead to the removal of the taxi’s plates, including defective indicators, fog lamps, wiper blades and exhaust system.

Drivers would be given a ten-day period to rectify the faults.

Staurt Hastings, of taxi firm Metro Keighley, said: “This new system would be horrendous. It’s making it easier for bad drivers with bad cars.

“A car has to be fit for purpose, especially when you consider that we carry vulnerable people and children. If it has defects and fails this test, it should not be allowed on the road.

“When a car goes in for a test, whatever is wrong with it should be put right straightaway.”

But Mr Hamer said: “I can assure the public that standards are not being compromised and we will never issue a taxi licence on an unsafe vehicle or compromise the safety of passengers.

“Following consultation with the trade and elected members, we are simply considering bringing the Council’s procedures on vehicle testing into line with the current MOT test which gives a little more flexibility.

“We are still in negotiations and are consulting the Depart-ment of Transport, the Vehicle Operators Servicing Agency, the police and our vehicle examiners to ensure our procedures are consistent and robust.”

On the matter of the two suspensions, Mr Hamer said: “Two members of staff have been suspended and an investigation will take place.”

Councillor Michael Walls, chairman of Bradford Council’s hackney carriages and private hire panel, said; “I am taking part in a discussion on these proposed changes for taxis on April 20. There is no doubt that things need to be looked at, updated and changed in different ways.

“If it’s a very minor defect that doesn’t affect the safety or running of the car, we could look at a system where they have a few days to put it right.

“I would be against any proposal that in any way affects or makes more dangerous the driving or use of vehicles.”

Comments(15)

Collos says...
7:10am Mon 30 Mar 09

I must remember that when the police stop me for no idicators I can tell them Bradford council say they are not all that important,the state of some of the cars at the moment is atrocious it should be tightning standards not relaxing them.When I pay money to get into a taxi/hire car i expect it to be 100%roadworthy and nothing elese the insurance companies would have a field day in denying your claim in the case of an accident it about time this council grew up.

sexysam says...
10:08am Mon 30 Mar 09

I agree with the Councils stand on this issue. It is time the rules were slightly relaxed. They have been far too stringent due to over zealous officials.Drivers and vehicles were suspended for petty and personal reasons.Bradford has in my opinion one of the best fleet of vehicles within the districts.Most of the taxi drivers take great pride in doing their job and do keep their vehicles in a roadworthy and safe condition, because by being off road, they are not earning their lively hood. Well done Mr Hamer for using common sense.

Lord Wibsey says...
10:21am Mon 30 Mar 09

The Council has no right to compromise with public safety. Well done Paul Mills and Andrew Mellor for standing up against stupid and dangerous decisions by the council.

Dear John says...
10:34am Mon 30 Mar 09

If a car has defective indicators and fog lights it wouldnt be good enough to pass a LEGAL MOT test, but its good enough to transport the paying public about! Nothing but a scandal and another council introduced step towards third world status.


Rickshaw anyone?

OLDLAD says...
10:45am Mon 30 Mar 09

Indicators not working should not affect a tax's roadworthyness - THEY NEVER USE THEM ANYWAY!!!!

Mik_e says...
10:49am Mon 30 Mar 09

To allow the drivers to continue driving their cars with any defects, must surely be aiding & abetting the offence. Contrary to the comments of 'sexy sam' who I would guess has some connection with the private hire/taxi trade, most of the private hire cars that I see in the Bfd area, are dirty, poorly maintained and very badly driven. The council should introduce more stringent rules on the condition of the cars and the drivers should have to pass an advanced test, before being granted a private hire / hackney licence.

c/pot says...
11:37am Mon 30 Mar 09

Mik_e wrote:
To allow the drivers to continue driving their cars with any defects, must surely be aiding & abetting the offence. Contrary to the comments of 'sexy sam' who I would guess has some connection with the private hire/taxi trade, most of the private hire cars that I see in the Bfd area, are dirty, poorly maintained and very badly driven. The council should introduce more stringent rules on the condition of the cars and the drivers should have to pass an advanced test, before being granted a private hire / hackney licence.
Speak english,take a shower and brushing their teeth would help.

paulie_wallie says...
12:13pm Mon 30 Mar 09

What the article doesn't mention is that bradford council increased the taxi test fee from £75 to £175. If your taxi does fail the test you have to rebook the test and pay another £5.

Bradford council is very stringent about the age of taxis, goto doncaster or manchester and you will find taxis that are 10-15 years old whereas the age limit in bradford is 8 years, after that you have to buy another car.

This recession affects the taxi trade too, paying £175 for the test to then have plates removed because your indicators aren't orange enough (no i'm not joking) is ridiculous.

its johnny says...
1:46pm Mon 30 Mar 09

If its a minor defect then i dont see a problem, but cars with major defects should be off the Road

Dear John says...
2:01pm Mon 30 Mar 09

its johnny wrote:
If its a minor defect then i dont see a problem, but cars with major defects should be off the Road
Exactly, but the examples listed can hardly be considered minor and in some cases would render a vehicle illegal.

Joedavid says...
3:10pm Mon 30 Mar 09

Do ordinary car owners get 10 days usage when their car fails its MOT?
I guess no, as it is unroadworthy, so these taxi are the same, they should not be on the roas untill a test passed.

rongtw says...
5:24pm Mon 30 Mar 09

if a car fails a test i should not be driven on the road !! FULL STOP.
when my car a 04 plate failed for a rear light i had to replace it straight away to get my MOT !!! not ten days later !!!.
I would also like too see regular driving tests for the drivers to hold a licence as most have no idea how to use the road or lights or what a red lights!! for and are the most ignorant drivers on the road.

fentiger says...
5:30pm Mon 30 Mar 09

If a taxi is faulty in any way it is dangerous, just like my own car would be. If it's wrong it's wrong it can't be half wrong. What is the matter with this council. Well done to the council staff who have taken a stand and unfairly been suspended, this must be horrendous for them. More importantly the Council leader should be suspended for ruining Bradford!

Icemonkey says...
7:17pm Mon 30 Mar 09

Its a great idea in these hard times it keeps drivers earning a living and keeps food on the table if it is kept to minor defects. Martin you have my vote well done

sugar cube says...
9:45am Tue 31 Mar 09

But a new document proposes 19 “minor faults” that would not lead to the removal of the taxi’s plates, including defective indicators, fog lamps, wiper blades and exhaust system.

firstly, how is defective wiper blades a minor fault? should the driver stick his head out of the window to see when it's raining?! Secondly, I thought Bradford Council was committed to cutting emmissions and imrpoving the environment? Defective exhausts on their vehicles kinda contradicts that statement doesn't it? As for defective indicators, OLDLAD SOUTH, you hit the nail on the head, Taxi's aren't even fitted with idicators are they?


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