Shock as Heritage advisors say 'Keep Odeon's towers' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Shock as Heritage advisors say 'Keep Odeon's towers'
7:33am Saturday 22nd November 2008 in News
By Will Kilner
The Odeon towers and facade
English Heritage is urging planners to refuse permission for the full demolition of Bradford’s former Odeon cinema and the redevelopment of the site.
But it argues that only the front facade and twin towers are worth keeping and a single building should be constructed behind it rather than the three planned by the developers. The public body’s comments in response to Bradford Council’s consultation process for the proposed Odeon replacement have been attacked as inconsistent because yesterday it was announced that its sixth decision not to grant the building listed status had been backed by the Government.
Councillor Anne Hawkesworth, the Council’s executive member for environment and culture, said: “On the one hand, they are saying it should not be listed but they are also saying that what is going to replace it is not suitable.
“That’s a perfectly valid point for them to make. The people in charge of the scheme have to make a decision to see whether they go forward with that particular design.”
In its response to Bradford planners, English Heritage, which acts as the Government’s statutory adviser on the historic environment, said the existing twin-towered building was an “evocative landmark” and made a “positive contribution” to Bradford city centre’s distinctive character.
It says the £55 million New Victoria Place proposals would damage the conservation area and the setting of the Alhambra theatre by the removal of a complementary building.
Its letter states the planned development would be a “dominating” building, much taller and with no stylistic similarities to the Grade II listed Alhambra.
And it says national and local guidance supported the retention of the existing building’s turrets and front facade.
Trevor Mitchell, English Heritage’s team leader for West Yorkshire, was asked if English Heritage’s view that part of the building should be retained was inconsistent with its earlier view that it was not worthy of listed building status.
Mr Mitchell said: “It has been our view that, although it’s a good building, it does not reach the national standards of special architectural or historical interest to warrant it being listed.
“However, that doesn’t mean it’s a worthless building with no value at all.
“It has local value as a landmark on the skyline and a community value in that many thousands of people used it when it was open.”
English Heritage said it recognised that some aspects of the New Victoria Place proposal could bring “modest benefits”, with new offices, a hotel, homes and educational space set to stimulate the city’s economy.
It said the creation of a wider pavement and new surfacing around the Alhambra could improve the setting of the theatre, while the proposed use of sandstone as the main cladding to the new development would harmonise with the conservation area.
No-one at regeneration agency Yorkshire Forward, which owns the Odeon site, or Langtree Artisan, the development partner, were available for comment last night.
Comments(31)
Lenny_the_legend
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8:39am Sat 22 Nov 08
Another round of meetings, followed by more meetings, more architects plans, more discussion groups and forums, then more planning applications and finally another refusal !!
I might be 50 by the time I see something new in its place - only 21 years to go !! Good old Bradford council - you can depend on them to delay things to get more money out of us !!!
keeponclucking
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8:49am Sat 22 Nov 08
albion
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9:33am Sat 22 Nov 08
The Odeon Crusader
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10:40am Sat 22 Nov 08
So the regen chiefs and Langtree Artisan were not available for comment on this? What a surprise.
Somebody did actually hear David Custance (Yorkshire Forward) and Glyn Turner (Langtree Artisan) discussing this latest twist in the Odeon saga over a babysham in the Birdcage Bar last night. It was something like "Oh sheet"?!!!
Jammy
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10:48am Sat 22 Nov 08
Dr Evil
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12:51pm Sat 22 Nov 08
keeponclucking wrote:Have you been away?
Talk about indecisive. How much money is being spent on these numerous reports & surveys. A compromise of aiming to keep the towers & build something else to blend in with it would seem to be a reasonable compromise but for goodness sake let's get on with it before it falls down of its own accord. I wish they had put as much thought into saving the Alexandra Hotel around the corner. If the rest of Bradford's so called redevelopment is going to take as long to discuss we will be here til doomsday. Talking of which after a flurry of activity about 6 months ago I've not seen much construction since in our City Centre (just the occasional artists impression of what it 'might'look like 50 years from now). I suspect Westfield have delayed investment again due to the recession & the Council are too embarrassed to tell us!
Joedavid
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2:27pm Sat 22 Nov 08
bratfudlad
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3:05pm Sat 22 Nov 08
djmoulson
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3:47pm Sat 22 Nov 08
t maybe we might finally get a building the complements the Alhambra, has a definitive use and links the University area with the city centre!!
JewelD
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3:47pm Sat 22 Nov 08
mrs walker
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3:58pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Upstairs there would be enough space for offices, conference facilities, and a shrine to the small god of U-turns...
mrs walker
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4:04pm Sat 22 Nov 08
JazHar
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5:19pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Even if the interior of the Odeon can't be saved, the front facade and towers should definitely be preserved.
I don't know anyone that likes the Langtree artisan New Victoria Place design - it resembles some of the other concrete eyesores that already blight the city centre - its unbelievable that having spent the last 10 or 15 years talking about pulling this type of building down they can consider building another one on a prime site.
jkelly
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5:23pm Sat 22 Nov 08
finemess
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5:55pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Lets face it Bradford Council's track record of developing the city center is pretty poor which reminds me of something else er Broadway!!! lol
Need I say more!!
eightieswiffy
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7:03pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Thank goodness that someone with an ounce of intelligence and foresight has stepped in...it's not difficult is it.... keep the towers which in my opinion 'are' the Odeon, and fill the facade with glass. Many people on here have made great suggestions on restoring - wish we got paid the same as these so called experts.
The Odeon Crusader
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7:39pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Go to: www.bradfordodeonres
cuegroup.co.uk
and look in "News And Events"
daz.
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9:05pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Well, this is a step in the right direction, yes finally someone has realised that this building is an important one to Bradford & the people who live here.
Daz.
MP
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10:10pm Sat 22 Nov 08
Dr Evil
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11:13pm Sat 22 Nov 08
MP wrote:I can't be the only one who doesn't get this comment.
Heres a suggesstion for the T and A - send an email on Monday to every Bradford Councillor asking them to comment on the atrocious mess we are in over the Odeon and then print exactly how many responded. Then send the results to the Chief Executive of Bradford Council, Tony Reeves, for £170,000 a year of our Council Tax money maybe he will be able to show some leadership for once.......
van
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1:42am Sun 23 Nov 08
over many years there has been a relentless development destruction of 19th century, early 20th century and 18th century building marvels in bradford, the council still wants to demolish more. pure self interest and sad for the city, what could this city have been like - ghent?york? dont laugh,it could have beed
MP
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3:43pm Sun 23 Nov 08
Dr Evil
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4:16pm Sun 23 Nov 08
ava4
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7:19pm Sun 23 Nov 08
mrs walker
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8:07pm Sun 23 Nov 08
ava4 wrote:A 'freak accident'?? I think you'll find it's more likely to be 'a mysterious fire'... :-(
So, am I the only one now expecting one of the towers to fall victim to some kind of freak accident?
bantam4life
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8:52pm Sun 23 Nov 08
LISTING APPLICANT
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9:46pm Sun 23 Nov 08
Dr Evil
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10:42pm Sun 23 Nov 08
mrs walker
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12:34am Mon 24 Nov 08
(lol @security word: 'long-wait'!!)
Oh, and Bantam4Life "just knock the thing down, who actually care about keeping it."
Enough people turned out on a chilly morning a few months ago to link arms around the whole plot. It was a bit of a squeeze getting a space and it was a heart-warming and uplifting event. So yes, many many people care....
Jammy
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8:13am Mon 24 Nov 08
LISTING APPLICANT
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2:42pm Mon 24 Nov 08
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