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Six out of ten drivers 'not insured'
6:53am Monday 28th January 2008
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Bradford's "suburbs of shame" are the worst in West Yorkshire for people driving without insurance, according to alarming new figures.
A postcode breakdown of uninsured vehicles reveals that Bradford contains the four worst areas in the county.
The Motor Insurers' Bureau, which compiled the figures, estimates there are 30,500 uninsured vehicles across the Bradford district.
The BD3 area, comprising Barkerend, Bradford Moor and Thornbury, tops West York-shire's league of shame, with 4,403 uninsured vehicles, which equates to 57.3 per cent of all vehicles in that postcode area.
The BD8 area, which covers Girlington, Manningham and Lower Grange, is the second worst in West Yorkshire, with 42.7 per cent of vehicles uninsured.
The BD5 area, which takes in Little Horton and West Bowling, and BD7, including Great Horton and Lidget Green, are the third and fourth worst.
The figures have prompted Councillor Martin Smith, Bradford Council's portfolio holder for community safety, to call on the police to be more proactive in tackling the problem.
He said: "The thing that worries me is that the person on the receiving end of the accident has no recourse if the other driver is uninsured.
"It's an area where we need our forces in blue to do a bit more.
"I would urge the police to be more proactive because there are obviously a number of serious safety issues involved. I am surprised the figure is that high."
West Yorkshire Police said the use of Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) equipment, linked to a database of insurance companies, was the main proactive way of combating uninsured drivers.
A force spokesman said: "The use of ANPR has had a noticeable effect on the number of uninsured vehicles on the roads in West Yorkshire.
"Last year West Yorkshire Police seized 10,248 vehicles from the roads.
"ANPR is a screen fitted into a police car or van which is linked up to a database of all insurance companies and also to the police national computer.
"It monitors all passing vehicles and flags up any without insurance. These are then double-checked and the vehicle is stopped, and if no valid insurance is produced the vehicle will be seized.
"The owner of the vehicle then has seven working days to produce valid insurance, if they don't the vehicle will either be crushed or sold at auction to regain the costs."
Philip Gwynne, of West Yorkshire Casualty Reduction Partnership, dubbed the worst-hit areas "the suburbs of shame."
He said: "People who drive uninsured, and therefore illegally, are more likely to be involved in crashes because they just don't care, and that's borne out by the figures.
"Most of these areas are home to unemployed, socially-excluded people of low educational attainment who have grown up with a sub-culture where they don't give a damn about being compliant.
"While the technology and the checks do exist within West Yorkshire, the police can't be out all day checking for uninsured vehicles because they have other things to do.
"It's true that the police are the enforcing authority, but the rest of society can't just look the other way and leave it to the police to sort out.
"Where are the parents and neighbours? They must have a good idea if people they know are off driving without insurance."
Mr Gwynne added that insurance companies were not entirely without blame.
"Insurance companies are aware of the number of accidents involving young drivers, so they put the premiums up. The theory is that it will price them off the roads, but it doesn't. Many of them just drive without insurance instead," said Mr Gwynne.
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Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:11am Mon 28 Jan 08
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:11am Mon 28 Jan 08
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:11am Mon 28 Jan 08
holden caulfield, bradford says...
8:15am Mon 28 Jan 08
Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
holden caulfield, bradford says...
8:15am Mon 28 Jan 08
Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
holden caulfield, bradford says...
8:15am Mon 28 Jan 08
Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
holden caulfield, bradford says...
8:15am Mon 28 Jan 08
Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:25am Mon 28 Jan 08
Another point is that until the courts start upping the minimum fines for driving without insurance from the currently pathetic 50-200 quid to a minimum of a £1000, most of those currently who are currently uninsured will continue to take a chance a stick two fingers up at the law.
SEIZE AND CRUSH THEIR CARS NOW!
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:25am Mon 28 Jan 08
Another point is that until the courts start upping the minimum fines for driving without insurance from the currently pathetic 50-200 quid to a minimum of a £1000, most of those currently who are currently uninsured will continue to take a chance a stick two fingers up at the law.
SEIZE AND CRUSH THEIR CARS NOW!
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:25am Mon 28 Jan 08
Another point is that until the courts start upping the minimum fines for driving without insurance from the currently pathetic 50-200 quid to a minimum of a £1000, most of those currently who are currently uninsured will continue to take a chance a stick two fingers up at the law.
SEIZE AND CRUSH THEIR CARS NOW!
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:25am Mon 28 Jan 08
Another point is that until the courts start upping the minimum fines for driving without insurance from the currently pathetic 50-200 quid to a minimum of a £1000, most of those currently who are currently uninsured will continue to take a chance a stick two fingers up at the law.
SEIZE AND CRUSH THEIR CARS NOW!
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
Says it all.....
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
Says it all.....
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
Says it all.....
Divers_uk, Gilstead says...
8:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
Says it all.....
radiobantam1, Eccleshill says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
It does not take a brain surgeoan to work out if Police put a ANPR trap on that road one in two cars stopped would be illegal.
How many crushed cars in a concentrated area would it take to gte the message around? Not a lot.
Why will the Police not act? As Burglar says above if it was Bongley or Baildon they would be on it like a rash.
Racial prejudice by the Police, or are they admitting to no-go areas in our City?
radiobantam1, Eccleshill says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
It does not take a brain surgeoan to work out if Police put a ANPR trap on that road one in two cars stopped would be illegal.
How many crushed cars in a concentrated area would it take to gte the message around? Not a lot.
Why will the Police not act? As Burglar says above if it was Bongley or Baildon they would be on it like a rash.
Racial prejudice by the Police, or are they admitting to no-go areas in our City?
radiobantam1, Eccleshill says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
It does not take a brain surgeoan to work out if Police put a ANPR trap on that road one in two cars stopped would be illegal.
How many crushed cars in a concentrated area would it take to gte the message around? Not a lot.
Why will the Police not act? As Burglar says above if it was Bongley or Baildon they would be on it like a rash.
Racial prejudice by the Police, or are they admitting to no-go areas in our City?
radiobantam1, Eccleshill says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
It does not take a brain surgeoan to work out if Police put a ANPR trap on that road one in two cars stopped would be illegal.
How many crushed cars in a concentrated area would it take to gte the message around? Not a lot.
Why will the Police not act? As Burglar says above if it was Bongley or Baildon they would be on it like a rash.
Racial prejudice by the Police, or are they admitting to no-go areas in our City?
von1, bradford says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1, bradford says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1, bradford says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1, bradford says...
8:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
Positive Pete, Bradford says...
8:47am Mon 28 Jan 08
Yet so many people actually drive with no tax, no insurance and nothing appears to be done. If one of these uninsured drivers kills someone while driving what then for the family of the victim. The cars should be stopped and crushed. I have two other vehicles fully taxed insured and serviced and yes it costs but I would not drive without insurance.
There should be no reason why there are 50% uninsured vehicles on our roads!
Positive Pete, Bradford says...
8:47am Mon 28 Jan 08
Yet so many people actually drive with no tax, no insurance and nothing appears to be done. If one of these uninsured drivers kills someone while driving what then for the family of the victim. The cars should be stopped and crushed. I have two other vehicles fully taxed insured and serviced and yes it costs but I would not drive without insurance.
There should be no reason why there are 50% uninsured vehicles on our roads!
Positive Pete, Bradford says...
8:47am Mon 28 Jan 08
Yet so many people actually drive with no tax, no insurance and nothing appears to be done. If one of these uninsured drivers kills someone while driving what then for the family of the victim. The cars should be stopped and crushed. I have two other vehicles fully taxed insured and serviced and yes it costs but I would not drive without insurance.
There should be no reason why there are 50% uninsured vehicles on our roads!
Positive Pete, Bradford says...
8:47am Mon 28 Jan 08
Yet so many people actually drive with no tax, no insurance and nothing appears to be done. If one of these uninsured drivers kills someone while driving what then for the family of the victim. The cars should be stopped and crushed. I have two other vehicles fully taxed insured and serviced and yes it costs but I would not drive without insurance.
There should be no reason why there are 50% uninsured vehicles on our roads!
Rick, BD says...
8:57am Mon 28 Jan 08
Rick, BD says...
8:57am Mon 28 Jan 08
Rick, BD says...
8:57am Mon 28 Jan 08
Rick, BD says...
8:57am Mon 28 Jan 08
common sense, saltaire says...
9:09am Mon 28 Jan 08
The other point would be that getting charged with no insurance is 6 points and £200 fine. My car insurance is £400. Where's the logic.
Von1- you will find those cars mainly do have insurance as they are often stopped by police.
common sense, saltaire says...
9:09am Mon 28 Jan 08
The other point would be that getting charged with no insurance is 6 points and £200 fine. My car insurance is £400. Where's the logic.
Von1- you will find those cars mainly do have insurance as they are often stopped by police.
common sense, saltaire says...
9:09am Mon 28 Jan 08
The other point would be that getting charged with no insurance is 6 points and £200 fine. My car insurance is £400. Where's the logic.
Von1- you will find those cars mainly do have insurance as they are often stopped by police.
common sense, saltaire says...
9:09am Mon 28 Jan 08
The other point would be that getting charged with no insurance is 6 points and £200 fine. My car insurance is £400. Where's the logic.
Von1- you will find those cars mainly do have insurance as they are often stopped by police.
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
9:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
9:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
9:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
9:26am Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin, Odsal says...
10:05am Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin, Odsal says...
10:05am Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin, Odsal says...
10:05am Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin, Odsal says...
10:05am Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
10:34am Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
10:34am Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
10:34am Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
10:34am Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
10:38am Mon 28 Jan 08
holden caulfield wrote:Good idea, definitely worth a try.
these figures are a disgrace. Action must be taken to remove these cars from the our roads, it simply beggars belief that the Police could have access to this information yet fail to act upon it. A policy of zero tolerance should be adopted, close one street off at a time and ensure every vehicle on that street is fullt taxed and insured. Word would soon get round and these drivers would do the right thing. Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
albion, west riding says...
10:38am Mon 28 Jan 08
holden caulfield wrote:Good idea, definitely worth a try.
these figures are a disgrace. Action must be taken to remove these cars from the our roads, it simply beggars belief that the Police could have access to this information yet fail to act upon it. A policy of zero tolerance should be adopted, close one street off at a time and ensure every vehicle on that street is fullt taxed and insured. Word would soon get round and these drivers would do the right thing. Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
albion, west riding says...
10:38am Mon 28 Jan 08
holden caulfield wrote:Good idea, definitely worth a try.
these figures are a disgrace. Action must be taken to remove these cars from the our roads, it simply beggars belief that the Police could have access to this information yet fail to act upon it. A policy of zero tolerance should be adopted, close one street off at a time and ensure every vehicle on that street is fullt taxed and insured. Word would soon get round and these drivers would do the right thing. Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
albion, west riding says...
10:38am Mon 28 Jan 08
holden caulfield wrote:Good idea, definitely worth a try.
these figures are a disgrace. Action must be taken to remove these cars from the our roads, it simply beggars belief that the Police could have access to this information yet fail to act upon it. A policy of zero tolerance should be adopted, close one street off at a time and ensure every vehicle on that street is fullt taxed and insured. Word would soon get round and these drivers would do the right thing. Why is the Chief Constable not being made to account for this deriliction of duty?
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:17am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:17am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:17am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:17am Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
11:23am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat wrote:All very well, but that isnt what we have just now, and all these people who are not insured are according to stastics likely to have unroadworthy vehicles and are more likely to be involved in hit and run incidents.
Maybe they are fighting the tax man in an indirect manner. Eg car tax to ohigh but roads no good, insurance too high and comapnies making massive profits. We should have the same system as other countries eg the car is insured not the driver. So anyone who has a valid licence can drive it.
albion, west riding says...
11:23am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat wrote:All very well, but that isnt what we have just now, and all these people who are not insured are according to stastics likely to have unroadworthy vehicles and are more likely to be involved in hit and run incidents.
Maybe they are fighting the tax man in an indirect manner. Eg car tax to ohigh but roads no good, insurance too high and comapnies making massive profits. We should have the same system as other countries eg the car is insured not the driver. So anyone who has a valid licence can drive it.
albion, west riding says...
11:23am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat wrote:All very well, but that isnt what we have just now, and all these people who are not insured are according to stastics likely to have unroadworthy vehicles and are more likely to be involved in hit and run incidents.
Maybe they are fighting the tax man in an indirect manner. Eg car tax to ohigh but roads no good, insurance too high and comapnies making massive profits. We should have the same system as other countries eg the car is insured not the driver. So anyone who has a valid licence can drive it.
albion, west riding says...
11:23am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat wrote:All very well, but that isnt what we have just now, and all these people who are not insured are according to stastics likely to have unroadworthy vehicles and are more likely to be involved in hit and run incidents.
Maybe they are fighting the tax man in an indirect manner. Eg car tax to ohigh but roads no good, insurance too high and comapnies making massive profits. We should have the same system as other countries eg the car is insured not the driver. So anyone who has a valid licence can drive it.
phila9, Bradford says...
11:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1 wrote:Apart from that all they have to do is get fully comprehensive insurance on a really cheap low insurance car and claim that is their main car. They then drive the high performance car of 3rd party. This also nds to be stopped. CRUSH THE LOT!!!
There are alot of young drivers driving around in preformance cars. I always wondered how they got insurance. Now I know!!
phila9, Bradford says...
11:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1 wrote:Apart from that all they have to do is get fully comprehensive insurance on a really cheap low insurance car and claim that is their main car. They then drive the high performance car of 3rd party. This also nds to be stopped. CRUSH THE LOT!!!
There are alot of young drivers driving around in preformance cars. I always wondered how they got insurance. Now I know!!
phila9, Bradford says...
11:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1 wrote:Apart from that all they have to do is get fully comprehensive insurance on a really cheap low insurance car and claim that is their main car. They then drive the high performance car of 3rd party. This also nds to be stopped. CRUSH THE LOT!!!
There are alot of young drivers driving around in preformance cars. I always wondered how they got insurance. Now I know!!
phila9, Bradford says...
11:35am Mon 28 Jan 08
von1 wrote:Apart from that all they have to do is get fully comprehensive insurance on a really cheap low insurance car and claim that is their main car. They then drive the high performance car of 3rd party. This also nds to be stopped. CRUSH THE LOT!!!
There are alot of young drivers driving around in preformance cars. I always wondered how they got insurance. Now I know!!
sajenkin, Odsal says...
11:39am Mon 28 Jan 08
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
sajenkin, Odsal says...
11:39am Mon 28 Jan 08
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
sajenkin, Odsal says...
11:39am Mon 28 Jan 08
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
sajenkin, Odsal says...
11:39am Mon 28 Jan 08
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:42am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:42am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:42am Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
11:42am Mon 28 Jan 08
arifxxx, Bradford says...
11:50am Mon 28 Jan 08
I also hear many vehicles from these areas are registered at fake addresses in the first place making a mockery of the whole system the Police must get their finger out!
arifxxx, Bradford says...
11:50am Mon 28 Jan 08
I also hear many vehicles from these areas are registered at fake addresses in the first place making a mockery of the whole system the Police must get their finger out!
arifxxx, Bradford says...
11:50am Mon 28 Jan 08
I also hear many vehicles from these areas are registered at fake addresses in the first place making a mockery of the whole system the Police must get their finger out!
arifxxx, Bradford says...
11:50am Mon 28 Jan 08
I also hear many vehicles from these areas are registered at fake addresses in the first place making a mockery of the whole system the Police must get their finger out!
tannyK, bradford says...
12:13pm Mon 28 Jan 08
which are you ?
tannyK, bradford says...
12:13pm Mon 28 Jan 08
which are you ?
tannyK, bradford says...
12:13pm Mon 28 Jan 08
which are you ?
tannyK, bradford says...
12:13pm Mon 28 Jan 08
which are you ?
Yorkshire Lass, says...
12:31pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Yorkshire Lass, says...
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Yorkshire Lass, says...
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Yorkshire Lass, says...
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MrsMack, home says...
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MrsMack, home says...
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MrsMack, home says...
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MrsMack, home says...
12:52pm Mon 28 Jan 08
arifxxx, Bradford says...
1:25pm Mon 28 Jan 08
arifxxx, Bradford says...
1:25pm Mon 28 Jan 08
arifxxx, Bradford says...
1:25pm Mon 28 Jan 08
arifxxx, Bradford says...
1:25pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
1:39pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
1:39pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
1:39pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
1:39pm Mon 28 Jan 08
chris, BRADFORD says...
1:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off
Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!
I thought we live in a world where free speech
chris, BRADFORD says...
1:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off
Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!
I thought we live in a world where free speech
chris, BRADFORD says...
1:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off
Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!
I thought we live in a world where free speech
chris, BRADFORD says...
1:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off
Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!
I thought we live in a world where free speech
tannyK, bradford says...
1:46pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
1:46pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
1:46pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
1:46pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
1:49pm Mon 28 Jan 08
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.
albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
albion, west riding says...
1:49pm Mon 28 Jan 08
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.
albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
albion, west riding says...
1:49pm Mon 28 Jan 08
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.
albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
albion, west riding says...
1:49pm Mon 28 Jan 08
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.
albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
2:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
2:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
2:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
2:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
3:05pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
3:05pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
3:05pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
3:05pm Mon 28 Jan 08
KvW, says...
3:32pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Then again, there's so much tax on fuel in the UK it might price everyone off the roads.
KvW, says...
3:32pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Then again, there's so much tax on fuel in the UK it might price everyone off the roads.
KvW, says...
3:32pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Then again, there's so much tax on fuel in the UK it might price everyone off the roads.
KvW, says...
3:32pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Then again, there's so much tax on fuel in the UK it might price everyone off the roads.
HB, Bradford says...
3:38pm Mon 28 Jan 08
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HB, Bradford says...
3:38pm Mon 28 Jan 08
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HB, Bradford says...
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HB, Bradford says...
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tannyK, bradford says...
4:10pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Brilliant!!
tannyK, bradford says...
4:10pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Brilliant!!
tannyK, bradford says...
4:10pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Brilliant!!
tannyK, bradford says...
4:10pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Brilliant!!
phila9, Bradford says...
4:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:The T&A is very hypocritical. It's all will to talk about crime in the white areas of Bradford but covers up the problem area such as manningham, Barkerend. That's why I don't buy it anymore it is not representative of the population it covers. Dare to say anything about ehtnic miorities and they'll remove it, unless it's them attacking us, that's okay!!
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
phila9, Bradford says...
4:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:The T&A is very hypocritical. It's all will to talk about crime in the white areas of Bradford but covers up the problem area such as manningham, Barkerend. That's why I don't buy it anymore it is not representative of the population it covers. Dare to say anything about ehtnic miorities and they'll remove it, unless it's them attacking us, that's okay!!
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
phila9, Bradford says...
4:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:The T&A is very hypocritical. It's all will to talk about crime in the white areas of Bradford but covers up the problem area such as manningham, Barkerend. That's why I don't buy it anymore it is not representative of the population it covers. Dare to say anything about ehtnic miorities and they'll remove it, unless it's them attacking us, that's okay!!
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
phila9, Bradford says...
4:26pm Mon 28 Jan 08
albion wrote:The T&A is very hypocritical. It's all will to talk about crime in the white areas of Bradford but covers up the problem area such as manningham, Barkerend. That's why I don't buy it anymore it is not representative of the population it covers. Dare to say anything about ehtnic miorities and they'll remove it, unless it's them attacking us, that's okay!!
chris wrote:Quite so, but the removed posts didnt mention either, it seems as if certain sections of the local population cannot be criticised.albion wrote: Several posts seem to have been removed from this thread, i couldnt see anything offensive or libelous in them, whats the point!If you metion THE BNP or alsum seekers on here your post seem to get taking off I thought we live in a world where free speech
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
5:31pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
5:31pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
5:31pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
5:31pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Unc, bradford says...
5:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:43pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:43pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:43pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
Unc, bradford says...
5:43pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Take a look at the court file for today, there's one bloke who's got No
Licence, Insurance, MOT also has an offensive weapon and refused to
surrender to custody ... he gets ......... 80 hours unpaid work !!!
Maybe the police's attitude is swayed by this kind of thing, take an hour to pull someone, and even if they get a conviction......
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
5:52pm Mon 28 Jan 08
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
5:52pm Mon 28 Jan 08
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
5:52pm Mon 28 Jan 08
glad 2 b out, yorks says...
5:52pm Mon 28 Jan 08
goalkeeper, bradford says...
6:06pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The few legitimate drivers in Bradford have all been caught by Phil Gwynnes speed cameras. The rest drive around in uninsured, untaxed etc vehicles.
goalkeeper, bradford says...
6:06pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The few legitimate drivers in Bradford have all been caught by Phil Gwynnes speed cameras. The rest drive around in uninsured, untaxed etc vehicles.
goalkeeper, bradford says...
6:06pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The few legitimate drivers in Bradford have all been caught by Phil Gwynnes speed cameras. The rest drive around in uninsured, untaxed etc vehicles.
goalkeeper, bradford says...
6:06pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The few legitimate drivers in Bradford have all been caught by Phil Gwynnes speed cameras. The rest drive around in uninsured, untaxed etc vehicles.
T, Queensbury says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The Police in Bradford simply dare not stop the majority of the cars being driven about the City with no tax, insurance or MOT. They are simply too afraid to do so.
The Police in Bradford actually gave up doing the proactive job over 5 years ago.
They now sit about in Stations afraid to go out and complaining about the paperwork.
We now get Community Support Officers. My community does not want support it wants strong, proactive and effective policing by real officers with powers - not plastic Police.
Many of the post codes mentioned are also effectively no-go areas for the few Police who dare to venture out.
There is no incentive to be insured when every night the T&A publishes the Court File showing quite clearly that it is cheaper to go to Court and pay the small fine than actually to get insurance. Getting caught is simply a small risk.
If you are not insured you certainly need not bother with tax or an MOT. It is not cost effective - a £30 fine for the lot if you are really unfortunate enough to get caught.
Speed cameras only add to the problem by making it worthwhile not to register the vehicle with the DVLA so avoiding tax, insurance and an MOT.
T, Queensbury says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The Police in Bradford simply dare not stop the majority of the cars being driven about the City with no tax, insurance or MOT. They are simply too afraid to do so.
The Police in Bradford actually gave up doing the proactive job over 5 years ago.
They now sit about in Stations afraid to go out and complaining about the paperwork.
We now get Community Support Officers. My community does not want support it wants strong, proactive and effective policing by real officers with powers - not plastic Police.
Many of the post codes mentioned are also effectively no-go areas for the few Police who dare to venture out.
There is no incentive to be insured when every night the T&A publishes the Court File showing quite clearly that it is cheaper to go to Court and pay the small fine than actually to get insurance. Getting caught is simply a small risk.
If you are not insured you certainly need not bother with tax or an MOT. It is not cost effective - a £30 fine for the lot if you are really unfortunate enough to get caught.
Speed cameras only add to the problem by making it worthwhile not to register the vehicle with the DVLA so avoiding tax, insurance and an MOT.
T, Queensbury says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The Police in Bradford simply dare not stop the majority of the cars being driven about the City with no tax, insurance or MOT. They are simply too afraid to do so.
The Police in Bradford actually gave up doing the proactive job over 5 years ago.
They now sit about in Stations afraid to go out and complaining about the paperwork.
We now get Community Support Officers. My community does not want support it wants strong, proactive and effective policing by real officers with powers - not plastic Police.
Many of the post codes mentioned are also effectively no-go areas for the few Police who dare to venture out.
There is no incentive to be insured when every night the T&A publishes the Court File showing quite clearly that it is cheaper to go to Court and pay the small fine than actually to get insurance. Getting caught is simply a small risk.
If you are not insured you certainly need not bother with tax or an MOT. It is not cost effective - a £30 fine for the lot if you are really unfortunate enough to get caught.
Speed cameras only add to the problem by making it worthwhile not to register the vehicle with the DVLA so avoiding tax, insurance and an MOT.
T, Queensbury says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
The Police in Bradford simply dare not stop the majority of the cars being driven about the City with no tax, insurance or MOT. They are simply too afraid to do so.
The Police in Bradford actually gave up doing the proactive job over 5 years ago.
They now sit about in Stations afraid to go out and complaining about the paperwork.
We now get Community Support Officers. My community does not want support it wants strong, proactive and effective policing by real officers with powers - not plastic Police.
Many of the post codes mentioned are also effectively no-go areas for the few Police who dare to venture out.
There is no incentive to be insured when every night the T&A publishes the Court File showing quite clearly that it is cheaper to go to Court and pay the small fine than actually to get insurance. Getting caught is simply a small risk.
If you are not insured you certainly need not bother with tax or an MOT. It is not cost effective - a £30 fine for the lot if you are really unfortunate enough to get caught.
Speed cameras only add to the problem by making it worthwhile not to register the vehicle with the DVLA so avoiding tax, insurance and an MOT.
why ban me t&a, says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a, says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a, says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a, says...
6:19pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
6:28pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
6:28pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
6:28pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.
tornshaunton, bradfud says...
6:28pm Mon 28 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.
why ban me t&a, says...
6:35pm Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin wrote:More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment.
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
why ban me t&a, says...
6:35pm Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin wrote:More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment.
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
why ban me t&a, says...
6:35pm Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin wrote:More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment.
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
why ban me t&a, says...
6:35pm Mon 28 Jan 08
sajenkin wrote:More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment.
I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.
Darren, says...
6:50pm Mon 28 Jan 08
a: they need more cars with this equipment..or the ability to do more road blocks...both of which cost money and resources that the government will not give them.
b: as mentioned by one post....the judges don't hand down tough enough sentences
c: the paperwork involved
It is nothing to do with being afraid of possible calls of racism.
Darren, says...
6:50pm Mon 28 Jan 08
a: they need more cars with this equipment..or the ability to do more road blocks...both of which cost money and resources that the government will not give them.
b: as mentioned by one post....the judges don't hand down tough enough sentences
c: the paperwork involved
It is nothing to do with being afraid of possible calls of racism.
Darren, says...
6:50pm Mon 28 Jan 08
a: they need more cars with this equipment..or the ability to do more road blocks...both of which cost money and resources that the government will not give them.
b: as mentioned by one post....the judges don't hand down tough enough sentences
c: the paperwork involved
It is nothing to do with being afraid of possible calls of racism.
Darren, says...
6:50pm Mon 28 Jan 08
a: they need more cars with this equipment..or the ability to do more road blocks...both of which cost money and resources that the government will not give them.
b: as mentioned by one post....the judges don't hand down tough enough sentences
c: the paperwork involved
It is nothing to do with being afraid of possible calls of racism.
chris, BRADFORD says...
7:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton wrote:Well said
why ban me t&a wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
chris, BRADFORD says...
7:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton wrote:Well said
why ban me t&a wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
chris, BRADFORD says...
7:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton wrote:Well said
why ban me t&a wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
chris, BRADFORD says...
7:40pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tornshaunton wrote:Well said
why ban me t&a wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the main postcodes, BD3, BD8, BD5 & BD7 are the most heavily Asian and imigrant populated areas. Makes you wonder doesn't it.took the words right out of my head - TnA will slap your hands for saying it, but the truth hurts sometimes !!
CJA, Bradford says...
9:02pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:I totally agree with the comments made here. The police are always carrying out one day operations. The point is you then don't see another police officer until another operation is carried out.
Did you wintess the massive traffic warden pressence at the weekend in town?? they were out in their droves ticketing cars checking disabled bages etc - my point is a concerted effort is required - it happened once in heaton loads of cars clamped due to non payment of road tax- surley there is a power to do this in all areas. ?? its a shame man real shame - i drive so slow as some cars just brake in front of u willy nilly - or turn left and suddenly brake so u would hit them in the back all acts of drivers out to make a quick buck - I live in BD9 - think I will avoid driving through the areas mentioned!!
How many times do PCSO's get removed from their local area to work on one of these operations ?
With proper community policing their would be no need for special obs as their would be officers on the ground stopping things getting out of control.
It's unfortunate that police forces have reduced the size of their Traffic Police Sections as training these officers is expensive.
The ANPR is only fitted to Traffic Police cars, and all too often they now spend most of their time answering non traffic related 999 calls.
CJA, Bradford says...
9:02pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:I totally agree with the comments made here. The police are always carrying out one day operations. The point is you then don't see another police officer until another operation is carried out.
Did you wintess the massive traffic warden pressence at the weekend in town?? they were out in their droves ticketing cars checking disabled bages etc - my point is a concerted effort is required - it happened once in heaton loads of cars clamped due to non payment of road tax- surley there is a power to do this in all areas. ?? its a shame man real shame - i drive so slow as some cars just brake in front of u willy nilly - or turn left and suddenly brake so u would hit them in the back all acts of drivers out to make a quick buck - I live in BD9 - think I will avoid driving through the areas mentioned!!
How many times do PCSO's get removed from their local area to work on one of these operations ?
With proper community policing their would be no need for special obs as their would be officers on the ground stopping things getting out of control.
It's unfortunate that police forces have reduced the size of their Traffic Police Sections as training these officers is expensive.
The ANPR is only fitted to Traffic Police cars, and all too often they now spend most of their time answering non traffic related 999 calls.
CJA, Bradford says...
9:02pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:I totally agree with the comments made here. The police are always carrying out one day operations. The point is you then don't see another police officer until another operation is carried out.
Did you wintess the massive traffic warden pressence at the weekend in town?? they were out in their droves ticketing cars checking disabled bages etc - my point is a concerted effort is required - it happened once in heaton loads of cars clamped due to non payment of road tax- surley there is a power to do this in all areas. ?? its a shame man real shame - i drive so slow as some cars just brake in front of u willy nilly - or turn left and suddenly brake so u would hit them in the back all acts of drivers out to make a quick buck - I live in BD9 - think I will avoid driving through the areas mentioned!!
How many times do PCSO's get removed from their local area to work on one of these operations ?
With proper community policing their would be no need for special obs as their would be officers on the ground stopping things getting out of control.
It's unfortunate that police forces have reduced the size of their Traffic Police Sections as training these officers is expensive.
The ANPR is only fitted to Traffic Police cars, and all too often they now spend most of their time answering non traffic related 999 calls.
CJA, Bradford says...
9:02pm Mon 28 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:I totally agree with the comments made here. The police are always carrying out one day operations. The point is you then don't see another police officer until another operation is carried out.
Did you wintess the massive traffic warden pressence at the weekend in town?? they were out in their droves ticketing cars checking disabled bages etc - my point is a concerted effort is required - it happened once in heaton loads of cars clamped due to non payment of road tax- surley there is a power to do this in all areas. ?? its a shame man real shame - i drive so slow as some cars just brake in front of u willy nilly - or turn left and suddenly brake so u would hit them in the back all acts of drivers out to make a quick buck - I live in BD9 - think I will avoid driving through the areas mentioned!!
How many times do PCSO's get removed from their local area to work on one of these operations ?
With proper community policing their would be no need for special obs as their would be officers on the ground stopping things getting out of control.
It's unfortunate that police forces have reduced the size of their Traffic Police Sections as training these officers is expensive.
The ANPR is only fitted to Traffic Police cars, and all too often they now spend most of their time answering non traffic related 999 calls.
otley dave, otley says...
10:01pm Mon 28 Jan 08
otley dave, otley says...
10:01pm Mon 28 Jan 08
otley dave, otley says...
10:01pm Mon 28 Jan 08
otley dave, otley says...
10:01pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Alan, Silsden says...
10:22pm Mon 28 Jan 08
How may "triggers" of this system are actually acted on by the police?
Answers on a postcard!!!! Or is a postage stamp!
Alan, Silsden says...
10:22pm Mon 28 Jan 08
How may "triggers" of this system are actually acted on by the police?
Answers on a postcard!!!! Or is a postage stamp!
Alan, Silsden says...
10:22pm Mon 28 Jan 08
How may "triggers" of this system are actually acted on by the police?
Answers on a postcard!!!! Or is a postage stamp!
Alan, Silsden says...
10:22pm Mon 28 Jan 08
How may "triggers" of this system are actually acted on by the police?
Answers on a postcard!!!! Or is a postage stamp!
An insured driver, Bingley says...
10:29pm Mon 28 Jan 08
I fully endorse previous comments suggesting the Police should now run and be seen to be running high profile stings on the most prolific areas of non compliance.
Whereas before it could have been said that much of the evidence supporting the areas of non compliance was anecdotal, now with the actual statistics produced by the Motor Insurers Bureau to substantiate what we all knew already there can be no excuse for apathy or inaction.
Point taken that one roadside check can take 45 minutes of Police time and a car supposedly cannot be seized unless an admission of no insurance is made but with such disgraceful statistics once more blighting the City of Bradford’s name, surely the Chief Constable can apply for a dispensation to take effective and decisive action on a scale conducive with the size of the problem??
An insured driver, Bingley says...
10:29pm Mon 28 Jan 08
I fully endorse previous comments suggesting the Police should now run and be seen to be running high profile stings on the most prolific areas of non compliance.
Whereas before it could have been said that much of the evidence supporting the areas of non compliance was anecdotal, now with the actual statistics produced by the Motor Insurers Bureau to substantiate what we all knew already there can be no excuse for apathy or inaction.
Point taken that one roadside check can take 45 minutes of Police time and a car supposedly cannot be seized unless an admission of no insurance is made but with such disgraceful statistics once more blighting the City of BradfordÂ’s name, surely the Chief Constable can apply for a dispensation to take effective and decisive action on a scale conducive with the size of the problem??
An insured driver, Bingley says...
10:29pm Mon 28 Jan 08
I fully endorse previous comments suggesting the Police should now run and be seen to be running high profile stings on the most prolific areas of non compliance.
Whereas before it could have been said that much of the evidence supporting the areas of non compliance was anecdotal, now with the actual statistics produced by the Motor Insurers Bureau to substantiate what we all knew already there can be no excuse for apathy or inaction.
Point taken that one roadside check can take 45 minutes of Police time and a car supposedly cannot be seized unless an admission of no insurance is made but with such disgraceful statistics once more blighting the City of BradfordÂ’s name, surely the Chief Constable can apply for a dispensation to take effective and decisive action on a scale conducive with the size of the problem??
An insured driver, Bingley says...
10:29pm Mon 28 Jan 08
I fully endorse previous comments suggesting the Police should now run and be seen to be running high profile stings on the most prolific areas of non compliance.
Whereas before it could have been said that much of the evidence supporting the areas of non compliance was anecdotal, now with the actual statistics produced by the Motor Insurers Bureau to substantiate what we all knew already there can be no excuse for apathy or inaction.
Point taken that one roadside check can take 45 minutes of Police time and a car supposedly cannot be seized unless an admission of no insurance is made but with such disgraceful statistics once more blighting the City of BradfordÂ’s name, surely the Chief Constable can apply for a dispensation to take effective and decisive action on a scale conducive with the size of the problem??
Al Spade, Bradford says...
10:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
10:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
10:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade, Bradford says...
10:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
noel2, brighouse says...
11:24pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade wrote:Ok, this is how it goes. Can you guess how many police cars were covering Bradford South on Saturday between 7am and 5pm? The answer is four. Four police cars to answer 999 calls and all the other incidents that are reported in that time. It takes about 20 minutes to go through the procedure of reporting someone for no insurance and then when this is done the officer has to wait 30 minutes for the recovery truck. So yes it takes about 45 minutes to an hour PER VEHICLE. Then the officer has to spend another 30 minutes doing paperwork in the station in connection with the seizure in order that the person can go to court. The problem is not enough police officers actually on the street and the bureaucracy that goes with tackling this.
I fail to see how it takes 45 mins of police time to deal with an uninsured car. A quick computer check with the Motor Insurers Bureau will soon tell if it's insured. If not clamp it and then arrange its removal to the nearest scrap yard. Make fines really hurt and pay half to the police to be ring-fenced and spent on chasing more uninsured drivers. In 12 month's time we will have a different city. But we know it will not happen because governments both national and local are running scared.
noel2, brighouse says...
11:24pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade wrote:Ok, this is how it goes. Can you guess how many police cars were covering Bradford South on Saturday between 7am and 5pm? The answer is four. Four police cars to answer 999 calls and all the other incidents that are reported in that time. It takes about 20 minutes to go through the procedure of reporting someone for no insurance and then when this is done the officer has to wait 30 minutes for the recovery truck. So yes it takes about 45 minutes to an hour PER VEHICLE. Then the officer has to spend another 30 minutes doing paperwork in the station in connection with the seizure in order that the person can go to court. The problem is not enough police officers actually on the street and the bureaucracy that goes with tackling this.
I fail to see how it takes 45 mins of police time to deal with an uninsured car. A quick computer check with the Motor Insurers Bureau will soon tell if it's insured. If not clamp it and then arrange its removal to the nearest scrap yard. Make fines really hurt and pay half to the police to be ring-fenced and spent on chasing more uninsured drivers. In 12 month's time we will have a different city. But we know it will not happen because governments both national and local are running scared.
noel2, brighouse says...
11:24pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade wrote:Ok, this is how it goes. Can you guess how many police cars were covering Bradford South on Saturday between 7am and 5pm? The answer is four. Four police cars to answer 999 calls and all the other incidents that are reported in that time. It takes about 20 minutes to go through the procedure of reporting someone for no insurance and then when this is done the officer has to wait 30 minutes for the recovery truck. So yes it takes about 45 minutes to an hour PER VEHICLE. Then the officer has to spend another 30 minutes doing paperwork in the station in connection with the seizure in order that the person can go to court. The problem is not enough police officers actually on the street and the bureaucracy that goes with tackling this.
I fail to see how it takes 45 mins of police time to deal with an uninsured car. A quick computer check with the Motor Insurers Bureau will soon tell if it's insured. If not clamp it and then arrange its removal to the nearest scrap yard. Make fines really hurt and pay half to the police to be ring-fenced and spent on chasing more uninsured drivers. In 12 month's time we will have a different city. But we know it will not happen because governments both national and local are running scared.
noel2, brighouse says...
11:24pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Al Spade wrote:Ok, this is how it goes. Can you guess how many police cars were covering Bradford South on Saturday between 7am and 5pm? The answer is four. Four police cars to answer 999 calls and all the other incidents that are reported in that time. It takes about 20 minutes to go through the procedure of reporting someone for no insurance and then when this is done the officer has to wait 30 minutes for the recovery truck. So yes it takes about 45 minutes to an hour PER VEHICLE. Then the officer has to spend another 30 minutes doing paperwork in the station in connection with the seizure in order that the person can go to court. The problem is not enough police officers actually on the street and the bureaucracy that goes with tackling this.
I fail to see how it takes 45 mins of police time to deal with an uninsured car. A quick computer check with the Motor Insurers Bureau will soon tell if it's insured. If not clamp it and then arrange its removal to the nearest scrap yard. Make fines really hurt and pay half to the police to be ring-fenced and spent on chasing more uninsured drivers. In 12 month's time we will have a different city. But we know it will not happen because governments both national and local are running scared.
Dale, Barkerend says...
11:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Dale, Barkerend says...
11:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Dale, Barkerend says...
11:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
Dale, Barkerend says...
11:45pm Mon 28 Jan 08
World Nation, Bradford says...
12:03am Tue 29 Jan 08
World Nation, Bradford says...
12:03am Tue 29 Jan 08
World Nation, Bradford says...
12:03am Tue 29 Jan 08
World Nation, Bradford says...
12:03am Tue 29 Jan 08
An insured driver, Bingley says...
12:21am Tue 29 Jan 08
Any perceived apathy or hidden agenda however on the part of the Police upper hierarchy on this subject by the law abiding general public breeds a feeling of “why should I bother then”? Because there’s right and there’s wrong. There is no halfway house with this. Vehicle ownership isn’t about going down to Midland Road auctions and handing over a few quid for something with four wheels or driving around with a useless piece of paper relating to someone else’s expired third party cover. If you can’t afford to run a car including all the ancillary costs then get on the bus or walk like a generation ago did and don’t endanger other people’s lives or livelihoods with your arrogance and parochial mentality.
• Chief Constable – make an urgent business case for additional resource to instigate high visibility and continued operations to address this problem. The stats of 10,000 plus cars seized to date sound impressive but what proportion are returned to allow re-offending to continue? With scrap metal prices at an all time high I’m sure you could make it a worthwhile and cost effective exercise. For goodness sake this is an epidemic, try and cut through some of the red tape and show us you mean business!!
An insured driver, Bingley says...
12:21am Tue 29 Jan 08
Any perceived apathy or hidden agenda however on the part of the Police upper hierarchy on this subject by the law abiding general public breeds a feeling of “why should I bother then”? Because there’s right and there’s wrong. There is no halfway house with this. Vehicle ownership isn’t about going down to Midland Road auctions and handing over a few quid for something with four wheels or driving around with a useless piece of paper relating to someone else’s expired third party cover. If you can’t afford to run a car including all the ancillary costs then get on the bus or walk like a generation ago did and don’t endanger other people’s lives or livelihoods with your arrogance and parochial mentality.
• Chief Constable – make an urgent business case for additional resource to instigate high visibility and continued operations to address this problem. The stats of 10,000 plus cars seized to date sound impressive but what proportion are returned to allow re-offending to continue? With scrap metal prices at an all time high I’m sure you could make it a worthwhile and cost effective exercise. For goodness sake this is an epidemic, try and cut through some of the red tape and show us you mean business!!
An insured driver, Bingley says...
12:21am Tue 29 Jan 08
Any perceived apathy or hidden agenda however on the part of the Police upper hierarchy on this subject by the law abiding general public breeds a feeling of “why should I bother then”? Because there’s right and there’s wrong. There is no halfway house with this. Vehicle ownership isn’t about going down to Midland Road auctions and handing over a few quid for something with four wheels or driving around with a useless piece of paper relating to someone else’s expired third party cover. If you can’t afford to run a car including all the ancillary costs then get on the bus or walk like a generation ago did and don’t endanger other people’s lives or livelihoods with your arrogance and parochial mentality.
• Chief Constable – make an urgent business case for additional resource to instigate high visibility and continued operations to address this problem. The stats of 10,000 plus cars seized to date sound impressive but what proportion are returned to allow re-offending to continue? With scrap metal prices at an all time high I’m sure you could make it a worthwhile and cost effective exercise. For goodness sake this is an epidemic, try and cut through some of the red tape and show us you mean business!!
An insured driver, Bingley says...
12:21am Tue 29 Jan 08
Any perceived apathy or hidden agenda however on the part of the Police upper hierarchy on this subject by the law abiding general public breeds a feeling of “why should I bother then”? Because there’s right and there’s wrong. There is no halfway house with this. Vehicle ownership isn’t about going down to Midland Road auctions and handing over a few quid for something with four wheels or driving around with a useless piece of paper relating to someone else’s expired third party cover. If you can’t afford to run a car including all the ancillary costs then get on the bus or walk like a generation ago did and don’t endanger other people’s lives or livelihoods with your arrogance and parochial mentality.
• Chief Constable – make an urgent business case for additional resource to instigate high visibility and continued operations to address this problem. The stats of 10,000 plus cars seized to date sound impressive but what proportion are returned to allow re-offending to continue? With scrap metal prices at an all time high I’m sure you could make it a worthwhile and cost effective exercise. For goodness sake this is an epidemic, try and cut through some of the red tape and show us you mean business!!
dibble, Bfd says...
1:54am Tue 29 Jan 08
Firstly the stock answer for the majority of the public is to 'stop wasting time going after motorist's and to go after real criminals, like rapist's and burglars'.
This is never more clear than when I have taken a car off someone for no insurance or issued a ticket for a road traffic offence.
Secondly, officers are not scared to enforce the law or upset criminals, that is what we love to do, along with serve our role professionally.
We don't choose the laws, but we have to abide by them or face criminal proceedings ourselves and are accountable for everything we do.
Yes we are overstretched due to government priorities, set by the very same people who have no targets to show what their performance is like for running the country/cities.
Overall, I find the whole issue of being afraid comical (Mr T - Queensbury). I would like understand what you mean and your proof, because what I believe is this is an opinion based on nothing with no value.
At the end of the day, I don't go to work for people's praise, I do it because I make a difference, alot of it you will never know, understand or see as you are tucked up with your teddy's.
dibble, Bfd says...
1:54am Tue 29 Jan 08
Firstly the stock answer for the majority of the public is to 'stop wasting time going after motorist's and to go after real criminals, like rapist's and burglars'.
This is never more clear than when I have taken a car off someone for no insurance or issued a ticket for a road traffic offence.
Secondly, officers are not scared to enforce the law or upset criminals, that is what we love to do, along with serve our role professionally.
We don't choose the laws, but we have to abide by them or face criminal proceedings ourselves and are accountable for everything we do.
Yes we are overstretched due to government priorities, set by the very same people who have no targets to show what their performance is like for running the country/cities.
Overall, I find the whole issue of being afraid comical (Mr T - Queensbury). I would like understand what you mean and your proof, because what I believe is this is an opinion based on nothing with no value.
At the end of the day, I don't go to work for people's praise, I do it because I make a difference, alot of it you will never know, understand or see as you are tucked up with your teddy's.
dibble, Bfd says...
1:54am Tue 29 Jan 08
Firstly the stock answer for the majority of the public is to 'stop wasting time going after motorist's and to go after real criminals, like rapist's and burglars'.
This is never more clear than when I have taken a car off someone for no insurance or issued a ticket for a road traffic offence.
Secondly, officers are not scared to enforce the law or upset criminals, that is what we love to do, along with serve our role professionally.
We don't choose the laws, but we have to abide by them or face criminal proceedings ourselves and are accountable for everything we do.
Yes we are overstretched due to government priorities, set by the very same people who have no targets to show what their performance is like for running the country/cities.
Overall, I find the whole issue of being afraid comical (Mr T - Queensbury). I would like understand what you mean and your proof, because what I believe is this is an opinion based on nothing with no value.
At the end of the day, I don't go to work for people's praise, I do it because I make a difference, alot of it you will never know, understand or see as you are tucked up with your teddy's.
dibble, Bfd says...
1:54am Tue 29 Jan 08
Firstly the stock answer for the majority of the public is to 'stop wasting time going after motorist's and to go after real criminals, like rapist's and burglars'.
This is never more clear than when I have taken a car off someone for no insurance or issued a ticket for a road traffic offence.
Secondly, officers are not scared to enforce the law or upset criminals, that is what we love to do, along with serve our role professionally.
We don't choose the laws, but we have to abide by them or face criminal proceedings ourselves and are accountable for everything we do.
Yes we are overstretched due to government priorities, set by the very same people who have no targets to show what their performance is like for running the country/cities.
Overall, I find the whole issue of being afraid comical (Mr T - Queensbury). I would like understand what you mean and your proof, because what I believe is this is an opinion based on nothing with no value.
At the end of the day, I don't go to work for people's praise, I do it because I make a difference, alot of it you will never know, understand or see as you are tucked up with your teddy's.
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:31am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:31am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:31am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:31am Tue 29 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
9:50am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown wrote:You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.
albion, west riding says...
9:50am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown wrote:You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.
albion, west riding says...
9:50am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown wrote:You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.
albion, west riding says...
9:50am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown wrote:You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.
Crackdown, Bradford says...
10:06am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
10:06am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
10:06am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
10:06am Tue 29 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
11:24am Tue 29 Jan 08
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11:24am Tue 29 Jan 08
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11:24am Tue 29 Jan 08
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11:24am Tue 29 Jan 08
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tannyK, bradford says...
12:30pm Tue 29 Jan 08
website is cool checked my car its on there check a fiends either she has conned the insurance company or what but she has a yaris and it lists a fiat dibolo ??
tannyK, bradford says...
12:30pm Tue 29 Jan 08
website is cool checked my car its on there check a fiends either she has conned the insurance company or what but she has a yaris and it lists a fiat dibolo ??
tannyK, bradford says...
12:30pm Tue 29 Jan 08
website is cool checked my car its on there check a fiends either she has conned the insurance company or what but she has a yaris and it lists a fiat dibolo ??
tannyK, bradford says...
12:30pm Tue 29 Jan 08
website is cool checked my car its on there check a fiends either she has conned the insurance company or what but she has a yaris and it lists a fiat dibolo ??
sajenkin, Odsal says...
2:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:But the point is it wouldnt be MORE tax, just taxation via a different route, and one which cannot be evaded other than by stealing fuel. I am certainly not suggesting there should be more tax - indeed in theory it would be possible to reduce the overall motor tax burden if all drivers paid through a fuel levy. Moreover, it would most likely force off the road those that currently evade road tax and insurance, which could mean less conjestion. The trick is to set the fuel levy at a level that means the average joe or joanna ISNT paying more overall.
sajenkin wrote: lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment. I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
sajenkin, Odsal says...
2:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:But the point is it wouldnt be MORE tax, just taxation via a different route, and one which cannot be evaded other than by stealing fuel. I am certainly not suggesting there should be more tax - indeed in theory it would be possible to reduce the overall motor tax burden if all drivers paid through a fuel levy. Moreover, it would most likely force off the road those that currently evade road tax and insurance, which could mean less conjestion. The trick is to set the fuel levy at a level that means the average joe or joanna ISNT paying more overall.
sajenkin wrote: lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment. I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
sajenkin, Odsal says...
2:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:But the point is it wouldnt be MORE tax, just taxation via a different route, and one which cannot be evaded other than by stealing fuel. I am certainly not suggesting there should be more tax - indeed in theory it would be possible to reduce the overall motor tax burden if all drivers paid through a fuel levy. Moreover, it would most likely force off the road those that currently evade road tax and insurance, which could mean less conjestion. The trick is to set the fuel levy at a level that means the average joe or joanna ISNT paying more overall.
sajenkin wrote: lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment. I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
sajenkin, Odsal says...
2:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
why ban me t&a wrote:But the point is it wouldnt be MORE tax, just taxation via a different route, and one which cannot be evaded other than by stealing fuel. I am certainly not suggesting there should be more tax - indeed in theory it would be possible to reduce the overall motor tax burden if all drivers paid through a fuel levy. Moreover, it would most likely force off the road those that currently evade road tax and insurance, which could mean less conjestion. The trick is to set the fuel levy at a level that means the average joe or joanna ISNT paying more overall.
sajenkin wrote: lets start by putting road tax on fuel - the more you use the roads the more you pay. It would be impossible to evade unless you stole all your fuel. Lets also have an insurance disk and MOT disk, that way casual observers could spot those without (ie police on the beat) without having to use expensive equipment. I do agree though that insurance for young people is simply too expensive. My daughter bought a car for £600 and had to pay £1200 insurance. Its no wonder that some elect to risk it and drive uninsured.More fuel tax are you mad. I currently pay over £1 a litre and you want to put more on. FOR WHAT REASONS, the uninsured, un taxed, no MOT drivers will still drive. WE NEED ZERO TOLERANCE for this SCUM.
tannyK, bradford says...
3:15pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
3:15pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
3:15pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK, bradford says...
3:15pm Tue 29 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
3:34pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:If they had a bounty on these cars we could make a living catching them.
Do we all work in offices writing these comments - shame that! We could be out on da streets tackling crime instead of working our socks off to pay taxes and bills legit!!
albion, west riding says...
3:34pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:If they had a bounty on these cars we could make a living catching them.
Do we all work in offices writing these comments - shame that! We could be out on da streets tackling crime instead of working our socks off to pay taxes and bills legit!!
albion, west riding says...
3:34pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:If they had a bounty on these cars we could make a living catching them.
Do we all work in offices writing these comments - shame that! We could be out on da streets tackling crime instead of working our socks off to pay taxes and bills legit!!
albion, west riding says...
3:34pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tannyK wrote:If they had a bounty on these cars we could make a living catching them.
Do we all work in offices writing these comments - shame that! We could be out on da streets tackling crime instead of working our socks off to pay taxes and bills legit!!
Yorkshire Lass, says...
4:38pm Tue 29 Jan 08
albion wrote:Love it. Just tried the site and it works. So what actually happens when you phone the police to report it? do they do anything???
Crackdown wrote: I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
Yorkshire Lass, says...
4:38pm Tue 29 Jan 08
albion wrote:Love it. Just tried the site and it works. So what actually happens when you phone the police to report it? do they do anything???
Crackdown wrote: I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
Yorkshire Lass, says...
4:38pm Tue 29 Jan 08
albion wrote:Love it. Just tried the site and it works. So what actually happens when you phone the police to report it? do they do anything???
Crackdown wrote: I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
Yorkshire Lass, says...
4:38pm Tue 29 Jan 08
albion wrote:Love it. Just tried the site and it works. So what actually happens when you phone the police to report it? do they do anything???
Crackdown wrote: I believe the Police need some help. There is a website called askmid.com that checks to see if a car is insured. I noted 3 cars today that I thought were not insured, and I was correct. I will be passing the details onto the Police - and may put a big sticker on the car saying that it is not insured.You could be on to something there, it could take over from train spotting and car number plate spotting, check out a few suspect cars in your area, and provide a public service at the same time, they should teach it in schools! the one who bags the most during half term wins a prize.
World Nation, Bradford says...
7:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
then he make up plates to fix to his car, and any check other than a physical police stop check of the driver & car VIN plate will show it as insured, an if insured it likely taxed & mot so make it much less likely to get a pull by police cos of a whenever ANPR is used.
how long do you think crims will take to get round these proposals?
get real people. many more police NOW, or we mite as well give up an let anarchy rain.
World Nation, Bradford says...
7:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
then he make up plates to fix to his car, and any check other than a physical police stop check of the driver & car VIN plate will show it as insured, an if insured it likely taxed & mot so make it much less likely to get a pull by police cos of a whenever ANPR is used.
how long do you think crims will take to get round these proposals?
get real people. many more police NOW, or we mite as well give up an let anarchy rain.
World Nation, Bradford says...
7:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
then he make up plates to fix to his car, and any check other than a physical police stop check of the driver & car VIN plate will show it as insured, an if insured it likely taxed & mot so make it much less likely to get a pull by police cos of a whenever ANPR is used.
how long do you think crims will take to get round these proposals?
get real people. many more police NOW, or we mite as well give up an let anarchy rain.
World Nation, Bradford says...
7:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
then he make up plates to fix to his car, and any check other than a physical police stop check of the driver & car VIN plate will show it as insured, an if insured it likely taxed & mot so make it much less likely to get a pull by police cos of a whenever ANPR is used.
how long do you think crims will take to get round these proposals?
get real people. many more police NOW, or we mite as well give up an let anarchy rain.
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:33am Wed 30 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:33am Wed 30 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:33am Wed 30 Jan 08
Crackdown, Bradford says...
8:33am Wed 30 Jan 08
Andy Bairsto, bradford says...
7:11am Mon 28 Jan 08