Campaigners issue call to arms to save Bingley's swimming pool

UNDER THREAT: Bingley Pool

RALLYING CALL: Dr Jag Picknett, of campaign group Save Bingley Pool

First published in News by

SAVE Bingley swimming pool campaigners are urging people to sign up and be counted when a Bradford Council consultation roadshow rolls into town on Wednesday.

The Telegraph & Argus last month exclusively revealed the proposed locations of four new 25m pools the Council wants to build at the expense of Bingley, Richard Dunn, Queensbury and Bowling pools.

The suggested sites, already owned by the council, are Sedburgh playing fields near Odsal, Asa Briggs recreation ground in Queensbury and in Squire Lane, Toller, and would each have six-lane pools

There would also be a city centre pool in Nelson Street with eight lanes, diving boards and and offering everything from family fun swims to competitive swimming galas.

The Council's sport and leisure executive member, Councillor Andrew Thornton, told how the pools would also offer gyms and additional leisure facilities and promised that all aspects of the scheme were up for discussion.

But protests are growing in Bingley to keep the town's pool, despite Council chiefs' belief that there is sufficient capacity for its users to switch to Keighley or Shipley pools instead.

A campaign group, Save Bingley Pool, is now hurriedly working on a rescue plan for the near 90-year-old facility.

"We want everyone to go to the roadshow in the market place on Wednesday afternoon and urge the Council to continue considering making a Community Asset Transfer of Bingley Pool," said its spokesman Dr Jag Picknett.

"The Council's mobile unit will be there from 4pm to 6pm and will have i-Pads for people to make their comments as part of the consultation.

"We want to stress this not about '"us versus Bradford" - we are happy for them to have their four new pools, but don't want to lose ours.

"So people should make as many comments as possible about how important the pool is for Bingley."

Dr Picknett revealed that Save Bingley Pool was in talks with a local organisation regarding a possible new body to run the pool if a community asset transfer took place.

"To that end we are working with that organisation to bid for a £10,000 grant in order to put together a pre-feasibilty study on taking over the management of the pool," she said, adding that more details could not be given at this sensitive stage.

A 4,000 strong petition has already been lodged to save Bingley Pool and the campaign can be contacted on email: bingleypool@gmail or Save Bingley Pool on Facebook.

* Bradford Council's Swimming Pool Consultation roadshow is also takes place at the following venues:

Morrisons, Girlington, today, 10am - 12pm

• Tesco, Canal Road, today, 1pm - 8pm

• Karmand Centre tomorrow, 10am - 12pm

• Morrisons, Thornbury, tomorrow, 1pm - 5pm

• Khidmat Centre, September 5, 2pm - 3pm

• Milan Centre, September 12pm- 1pm

• Asda, Dudley Hill, September 4, 10am - 12.pm

• Tesco, Great Horton, September 4, 1pm - 5pm

West Bowling Community Centre, September 4, 6pm - 8pm

• Tesco, Halifax Road, September 5, 1pm - 5pm

• Tesco, Queensbury , September 5, 10am - 12pm

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5:51am Mon 1 Sep 14

Mike Strutter says...

Yep that's right, why not have the road shows midweek when most of us are at work.
Yep that's right, why not have the road shows midweek when most of us are at work. Mike Strutter
  • Score: 12

7:01am Mon 1 Sep 14

Albion. says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Yep that's right, why not have the road shows midweek when most of us are at work.
Some of them are in the evening.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Yep that's right, why not have the road shows midweek when most of us are at work.[/p][/quote]Some of them are in the evening. Albion.
  • Score: 1

10:51am Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere. Cityman23
  • Score: -11

11:01am Mon 1 Sep 14

rosesrwhite says...

Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL! rosesrwhite
  • Score: 10

11:03am Mon 1 Sep 14

rosesrwhite says...

rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
You sound like Cllr Thornton....
[quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]You sound like Cllr Thornton.... rosesrwhite
  • Score: -1

11:16am Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
[quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part. Cityman23
  • Score: -1

1:44pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Dizzygirl says...

Cityman23 wrote:
rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same.

Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact.

I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same. Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact. I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old. Dizzygirl
  • Score: 3

2:02pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

Dizzygirl wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same.

Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact.

I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.
You have put your finger on a very good point and perhaps it's the one the protesters ought to be pushing most ie "Can the Keighley /Shipley pools accommodate all the children who will have to now have their school swimming lessons at those two other pools?"

But, of course if the council says, "Yes, they can" then I can't see any other reason to stop the closure going ahead.

I am all for protesting against grievances and setting up petitions. I've signed very many over the years and even started a few.

But apart from sentimental attachment, (and feelings of perceived but not proved victimisation towards a community,) I can't think of any solid reason for keeping the aging Bingley Pool open. It really has seen better days, it has had its day. And that, sadly, is it.

If I was a Bingley resident, I would be pressing for something to be done about the old B&B building which is a hideous blight on the local community. Perhaps if this was levelled, part of the land could be sold to help to pay for several new projects, such as an all purpose sports centre- maybe even with a small pool?
[quote][p][bold]Dizzygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same. Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact. I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.[/p][/quote]You have put your finger on a very good point and perhaps it's the one the protesters ought to be pushing most ie "Can the Keighley /Shipley pools accommodate all the children who will have to now have their school swimming lessons at those two other pools?" But, of course if the council says, "Yes, they can" then I can't see any other reason to stop the closure going ahead. I am all for protesting against grievances and setting up petitions. I've signed very many over the years and even started a few. But apart from sentimental attachment, (and feelings of perceived but not proved victimisation towards a community,) I can't think of any solid reason for keeping the aging Bingley Pool open. It really has seen better days, it has had its day. And that, sadly, is it. If I was a Bingley resident, I would be pressing for something to be done about the old B&B building which is a hideous blight on the local community. Perhaps if this was levelled, part of the land could be sold to help to pay for several new projects, such as an all purpose sports centre- maybe even with a small pool? Cityman23
  • Score: -5

2:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

Dizzygirl wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same.

Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact.

I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.
You have put your finger on a very good point and perhaps it's the one the protesters ought to be pushing most ie "Can the Keighley /Shipley pools accommodate all the children who will have to now have their school swimming lessons at those two other pools?"

But, of course if the council says, "Yes, they can" then I can't see any other reason to stop the closure going ahead.

I am all for protesting against grievances and setting up petitions. I've signed very many over the years and even started a few.

But apart from sentimental attachment, (and feelings of perceived but not proved victimisation towards a community,) I can't think of any solid reason for keeping the aging Bingley Pool open. It really has seen better days, it has had its day. And that, sadly, is it.

If I was a Bingley resident, I would be pressing for something to be done about the old B&B building which is a hideous blight on the local community. Perhaps if this was levelled, part of the land could be sold to help to pay for several new projects, such as an all purpose sports centre- maybe even with a small pool?
[quote][p][bold]Dizzygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same. Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact. I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.[/p][/quote]You have put your finger on a very good point and perhaps it's the one the protesters ought to be pushing most ie "Can the Keighley /Shipley pools accommodate all the children who will have to now have their school swimming lessons at those two other pools?" But, of course if the council says, "Yes, they can" then I can't see any other reason to stop the closure going ahead. I am all for protesting against grievances and setting up petitions. I've signed very many over the years and even started a few. But apart from sentimental attachment, (and feelings of perceived but not proved victimisation towards a community,) I can't think of any solid reason for keeping the aging Bingley Pool open. It really has seen better days, it has had its day. And that, sadly, is it. If I was a Bingley resident, I would be pressing for something to be done about the old B&B building which is a hideous blight on the local community. Perhaps if this was levelled, part of the land could be sold to help to pay for several new projects, such as an all purpose sports centre- maybe even with a small pool? Cityman23
  • Score: -1

2:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Albion. says...

Cityman23 wrote:
Dizzygirl wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same.

Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact.

I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.
You have put your finger on a very good point and perhaps it's the one the protesters ought to be pushing most ie "Can the Keighley /Shipley pools accommodate all the children who will have to now have their school swimming lessons at those two other pools?"

But, of course if the council says, "Yes, they can" then I can't see any other reason to stop the closure going ahead.

I am all for protesting against grievances and setting up petitions. I've signed very many over the years and even started a few.

But apart from sentimental attachment, (and feelings of perceived but not proved victimisation towards a community,) I can't think of any solid reason for keeping the aging Bingley Pool open. It really has seen better days, it has had its day. And that, sadly, is it.

If I was a Bingley resident, I would be pressing for something to be done about the old B&B building which is a hideous blight on the local community. Perhaps if this was levelled, part of the land could be sold to help to pay for several new projects, such as an all purpose sports centre- maybe even with a small pool?
Demolition is due to start this month and the site is on the market. The site doesn't belong to the council by the way.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dizzygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying but why should those people living in Bingley and the surrounding area have to travel even further to use other pools, of which Keighley is rubbish for swimming in. Yes the residents are unhappy that yet another facility is being closed. I'm sure those is Queensbury feel the same. Are the other pools going to be able to accommodate extra school swimming or additional swimming Lessons - surely this will have an impact. I know that Bingley is outdated but it's still well used even thought the hours have been cut and it's old.[/p][/quote]You have put your finger on a very good point and perhaps it's the one the protesters ought to be pushing most ie "Can the Keighley /Shipley pools accommodate all the children who will have to now have their school swimming lessons at those two other pools?" But, of course if the council says, "Yes, they can" then I can't see any other reason to stop the closure going ahead. I am all for protesting against grievances and setting up petitions. I've signed very many over the years and even started a few. But apart from sentimental attachment, (and feelings of perceived but not proved victimisation towards a community,) I can't think of any solid reason for keeping the aging Bingley Pool open. It really has seen better days, it has had its day. And that, sadly, is it. If I was a Bingley resident, I would be pressing for something to be done about the old B&B building which is a hideous blight on the local community. Perhaps if this was levelled, part of the land could be sold to help to pay for several new projects, such as an all purpose sports centre- maybe even with a small pool?[/p][/quote]Demolition is due to start this month and the site is on the market. The site doesn't belong to the council by the way. Albion.
  • Score: 4

2:38pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

You have made a good point about the question of whether or not Shipley or Keighley can accommodate all the Bingley children for school swimming lessons. That is the point the protesters should be making to the council. But of course, if the council say those two pools CAN deal with the extra workload/scheduling of school visits, the closure would be hard to oppose . Sentiment ( and unproven claims of political bias and victimisation against a community) are unlikely to change things.
To be honest, I've signed many petitions and even started a few in my time. But, some cases are winnable and others are not.

A better 'line' would be for residents to demand something be done about the old 'B&B' building. if it was demolished, perhaps the proceeds from the sale of land could be used for the benefit of Bingley. This, to me, seems a more viable 'project' and worthy of much wider support.
You have made a good point about the question of whether or not Shipley or Keighley can accommodate all the Bingley children for school swimming lessons. That is the point the protesters should be making to the council. But of course, if the council say those two pools CAN deal with the extra workload/scheduling of school visits, the closure would be hard to oppose . Sentiment ( and unproven claims of political bias and victimisation against a community) are unlikely to change things. To be honest, I've signed many petitions and even started a few in my time. But, some cases are winnable and others are not. A better 'line' would be for residents to demand something be done about the old 'B&B' building. if it was demolished, perhaps the proceeds from the sale of land could be used for the benefit of Bingley. This, to me, seems a more viable 'project' and worthy of much wider support. Cityman23
  • Score: -3

2:43pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

I re-wrote this last post, because I didn't think my previous one had 'taken.'
I re-wrote this last post, because I didn't think my previous one had 'taken.' Cityman23
  • Score: -3

7:58pm Mon 1 Sep 14

YubYub says...

When I lived in London as a child I lived between two swimming pools, both of which were 2 miles away and of a similar size to each other. I certainly didn't have a problem travelling to either of them if I wanted swimming.

Likewise when I lived in the Midlands there were three main pools that served the city. Two in two of the outlying districts and the third in the city centre. Again all involved travelling to in order to use them.

Too much of "I want it on my doorstep" mentality.
When I lived in London as a child I lived between two swimming pools, both of which were 2 miles away and of a similar size to each other. I certainly didn't have a problem travelling to either of them if I wanted swimming. Likewise when I lived in the Midlands there were three main pools that served the city. Two in two of the outlying districts and the third in the city centre. Again all involved travelling to in order to use them. Too much of "I want it on my doorstep" mentality. YubYub
  • Score: 0

8:51pm Mon 1 Sep 14

carolyne74 says...

YubYub wrote:
When I lived in London as a child I lived between two swimming pools, both of which were 2 miles away and of a similar size to each other. I certainly didn't have a problem travelling to either of them if I wanted swimming.

Likewise when I lived in the Midlands there were three main pools that served the city. Two in two of the outlying districts and the third in the city centre. Again all involved travelling to in order to use them.

Too much of "I want it on my doorstep" mentality.
The issue in Bingley is that the council is closing four pools, and building four pool. Bingley however is the only area where we are having a pool closed and not having one rebuilt. Three of the new pools are within two miles of each other, and three are also being rebuilt close to where a pool is being closed. All except, of course, Bingley. I was told by a young Labour member that as Bingley is consider to be affluent, we are expected to travel to a pool. So, basically, the council is taking Council Tax from a reasonably well-off area (believe me, there are plenty of poor people here!) and leaving us without the services we pay for. If the council has money to be put into swimming pools, why not just give Bingley a quarter of that money and let us update our pool? Because, obviously, the council just don't want us to have one. Why should I traipse out on a wet winter night to the train or bus station to take my child to Shipley or Keighley, when I currently have a servicable, if not modern, pool 20 minutes' walk away?

The council seems to want to turn Bingley into a massive housing estate, but without any facilities. On the plus side, if there's nothing here to people, maybe the new development of over 400 houses will fall flat on its face. Have the council forgotten about those people who they expect to be living here in a few years, whose children will also want to use a local pool?
[quote][p][bold]YubYub[/bold] wrote: When I lived in London as a child I lived between two swimming pools, both of which were 2 miles away and of a similar size to each other. I certainly didn't have a problem travelling to either of them if I wanted swimming. Likewise when I lived in the Midlands there were three main pools that served the city. Two in two of the outlying districts and the third in the city centre. Again all involved travelling to in order to use them. Too much of "I want it on my doorstep" mentality.[/p][/quote]The issue in Bingley is that the council is closing four pools, and building four pool. Bingley however is the only area where we are having a pool closed and not having one rebuilt. Three of the new pools are within two miles of each other, and three are also being rebuilt close to where a pool is being closed. All except, of course, Bingley. I was told by a young Labour member that as Bingley is consider to be affluent, we are expected to travel to a pool. So, basically, the council is taking Council Tax from a reasonably well-off area (believe me, there are plenty of poor people here!) and leaving us without the services we pay for. If the council has money to be put into swimming pools, why not just give Bingley a quarter of that money and let us update our pool? Because, obviously, the council just don't want us to have one. Why should I traipse out on a wet winter night to the train or bus station to take my child to Shipley or Keighley, when I currently have a servicable, if not modern, pool 20 minutes' walk away? The council seems to want to turn Bingley into a massive housing estate, but without any facilities. On the plus side, if there's nothing here to people, maybe the new development of over 400 houses will fall flat on its face. Have the council forgotten about those people who they expect to be living here in a few years, whose children will also want to use a local pool? carolyne74
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Mon 1 Sep 14

carolyne74 says...

Albion. wrote:
Mike Strutter wrote:
Yep that's right, why not have the road shows midweek when most of us are at work.
Some of them are in the evening.
Only two last past 5.00pm, one of which was today, and the one in Bingley is on until 6.00pm. Yep, really helpful for the workers, which just shows how little they actually want people to participate.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: Yep that's right, why not have the road shows midweek when most of us are at work.[/p][/quote]Some of them are in the evening.[/p][/quote]Only two last past 5.00pm, one of which was today, and the one in Bingley is on until 6.00pm. Yep, really helpful for the workers, which just shows how little they actually want people to participate. carolyne74
  • Score: 4

9:08pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cityman23 says...

Not being a councillor or privy to council thinking, I can't confirm or totally deny some of your reasoning.

However, two points come to mind.

First, why should a YOUNG member of the Labour Party have any extra insight into the inner machinations of the council? Isn't it more likely he was uttering his own private/personal view as to why the Bingley pool was being closed?

Secondly, if this was a politically motivated decision wouldn't the other two main parties be coming forward to make capital out of it with evidence to highlight it?

The fact is, when local amenities close, the local community does not usually benefit from all the money from the sale of land or/and buildings.

Eg In my area a facility was closed, demolished and the land given over to a housing development. The receipts
from the sale of the land went into the general council 'pot'. (Not for the exclusive benefit of our local area) which is served by Labour councillors, incidentally.

When things happen that are unwelcome, it's easy to look for conspiracies and scapegoats, but perhaps the answer is the more simple and straightforward one which has been stated many times previously.
Not being a councillor or privy to council thinking, I can't confirm or totally deny some of your reasoning. However, two points come to mind. First, why should a YOUNG member of the Labour Party have any extra insight into the inner machinations of the council? Isn't it more likely he was uttering his own private/personal view as to why the Bingley pool was being closed? Secondly, if this was a politically motivated decision wouldn't the other two main parties be coming forward to make capital out of it with evidence to highlight it? The fact is, when local amenities close, the local community does not usually benefit from all the money from the sale of land or/and buildings. Eg In my area a facility was closed, demolished and the land given over to a housing development. The receipts from the sale of the land went into the general council 'pot'. (Not for the exclusive benefit of our local area) which is served by Labour councillors, incidentally. When things happen that are unwelcome, it's easy to look for conspiracies and scapegoats, but perhaps the answer is the more simple and straightforward one which has been stated many times previously. Cityman23
  • Score: -1

11:29am Tue 2 Sep 14

livmcbusted says...

rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
I agree completely. I learned to swim their. I did life saving their. And even tho I'm only 12 I use the pool! If the pool is closed then where will everyone learn to swim? Exactly! The nearest swimming pool is Shipley! But that's not easy for the 7 schools in Binkey that use Bingley Pool atm!
[quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]I agree completely. I learned to swim their. I did life saving their. And even tho I'm only 12 I use the pool! If the pool is closed then where will everyone learn to swim? Exactly! The nearest swimming pool is Shipley! But that's not easy for the 7 schools in Binkey that use Bingley Pool atm! livmcbusted
  • Score: 1

11:32am Tue 2 Sep 14

livmcbusted says...

Cityman23 wrote:
rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
If Bingley Pool closes down then what does Bingley have! Nothing, Bingley has nothing!
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.[/p][/quote]If Bingley Pool closes down then what does Bingley have! Nothing, Bingley has nothing! livmcbusted
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livmcbusted wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
rosesrwhite wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date.

It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here.

There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on.

Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.
I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL!
As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool.

All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools.

Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days.

I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas.

But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.
If Bingley Pool closes down then what does Bingley have! Nothing, Bingley has nothing!
You can have some travellers/gypsies if you want,Asians,poles,Li
thuanians,think yourself lucky in bingley.when I was a lad we walked to a swimming bath if we wanted to swim I don't think 2 miles is too far to go for a swim.
[quote][p][bold]livmcbusted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rosesrwhite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I can see how many have sentimental feelings for a facility they have used and has been around for three generations. But, looking at things objectively and reasonably, Bingley pool is very much past it's sell by date. It's tough on the people living in Bingley perhaps and seen as Bingley being overlooked in favour of other areas, but surely common sense should prevail here. There are two pools , at Shipley and Keighley, either a stop or two away on the train, or a short bus ride or car ride away. These pools are far superior to Bingley pool. For all it's, old-fashioned charm and the memories of those who've enjoyed swimming there in the past, life has to move on. Bingley Pool, despite all the signatures got by the 'Save It' campaign is not a viable modern pool for the present era. It must be closed now and financial resources from the council redirected elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I assume you don't live in Bingley or if you do, you have no use for the pool? What about Bingley Lifesaving Club? Or the thousands of children who have and will continue to learn to swim there? The pool is a vital community resource. Its been neglected and wound down for years by Bradford Council to justify closing it to pay for a pool in a more favourable, e.g. Labour voting area. We have lost so much in Bingley - what do WE get for our Council Tax? SAVE OUR POOL![/p][/quote]As a matter of fact, I've been to Bingley Pool many many times, over the years. school children who travel to the pool by council- paid for bus service can easily take them to Shipley or Keighley where the facilities and the experience is far superior to that on offer in Bingley pool. All the badges/certificates/ medals from learning to swim to distance and life saving can easily be got from these other pools. Look, I get that Bingley people are dismayed at the closing of another local facility. and I know it's compounded by that great monstrosity of a mausoleum (Bradford & Bingley) which towers over the town as a reminder of what were better days. I also 'get' how some will see it as Bingley and it's townsfolk being snubbed or ignored in favour of other areas. But the cold hard truth ( and yes it's not pleasant for those who had affection for the building and swimming there) is that financial decisions have to be made and it makes sense to expect those who swim/swam at Bingley to now go to Shipley or Keighley for their swimming experience. Many children and adults don't have a pool on their doorstep anyway in this region, so for them, travelling is part and parcel of swimming, plus playing football, rugby, tennis and any other sport they in which they wish to take part.[/p][/quote]If Bingley Pool closes down then what does Bingley have! Nothing, Bingley has nothing![/p][/quote]You can have some travellers/gypsies if you want,Asians,poles,Li thuanians,think yourself lucky in bingley.when I was a lad we walked to a swimming bath if we wanted to swim I don't think 2 miles is too far to go for a swim. Out of site
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